What was Lex trying to do here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-MUzvASr8s
STEPPENWOLF LMAO
>>81190905
Jesus Christ why are they trying to stuff so much into this movie?
>Release on Good Friday
>Title is "Communion"
FUCKING BRAVO SNYDER SUCH SUBTLETY
>>81190950
Because Marvel is nearly a decade ahead of them in terms of cinematic universe building and they're desperately playing catch-up.
>>81190950
Because they're late to the party and they want to kickstart entire universe with one movie.
>>81190905
Did I just legit see Steppenwolf?
Da fuq?
>>81190905
Masturbate in a pool of blood?
>>81190905
Why is there always a little mucous coming out of Lex's nose
It was there in the prison scene too
Disgusting
>>81190905
What?
>>81190918
>>81191014
It could be Steppenwolf but that doesn't look like a helmet, it looks like part of the skull/legit horns.
>>81191053
Does this really need to be a gif?
>>81190905
That did look like Steppenwolf. Not sure if I like the grey alien design of him. Hope the New Gods are more colorful. They ARE NOT just aliens.
It's too bad the theatrical cut is edited so poorly cause there's a lot of cool stuff in it.
>>81191120
They might just have redesigned him
>>81191158
It's grey because it's made of the kryptonian nanotechnology, like when Jor-El showed Clark the history of Krypton.
>>81191120
Seeing as this is Snyder I wouldn't be surprised if Darkseid and his minions all end up looking like biblical demons
>>81191132
The head bobbing is a major component of RvB's charm
>>81191175
>>81191198
True. There are a lot of similarities and the fact that it also shows what are presumably three Motherboxes and happens right before Lex is arrested (and mentions 'him' to Batman) makes it more likely that it's him.
>>81191120
It looks like he's made from the Kryptonian metallic balls that form solid "holograms" as seen in MoS, so it's probably a space Skype call. And he seems to be showing Lex three boxes like the one that made Cyborg in the movie, that are probably Mother Boxes.
If you listen closely, he calls him "Lex Luthor" at 0:05
>>81191267
Holy shit you're right.
>>81191267
Oh wow, I hadn't noticed that.
So this is presumably not just the ship teaching Lex but actual communication with Apokolips (presumably).
>>81191267
Nice catch, anon.
>>81191198
Would make sense
It's Glorious Godfrey.
I think in a stroke of master symbolism, the beings of Apokolips are being set up to look truly demonic.
New Genesis will likely look...angelic.
>>81190905
>0:45
WHY IT WAS DELETED?
FUCK YOU SNYDER
REEEEEEEEEEE
>>81191344
Seriously, this explains why Lutherberg went on a mad rant when Batman was visiting him.
>>81191344
I bet all of the deleted scenes are actual crucial to this movie being good and Snyder removed them for more CGI esplosions. This would have made ding ding ding ding make more sense. What a dumbass.
>>81190918
I just don't want it to be Darkseid.
>>81191342
He better be having Lex on.
Like he takes off the suit, reveals that humans and Apokolips New Gods aren't so different, then beats the shit out of him and orders him to kneel.
Those Motherboxes in front of him
I think Steppenwolf is more likely but it also looks like Yuga Khan.
>>81191342
I would not be surprised if the New Gods have angelic imagery incorporated into their designs.
I also have a feeling at some point Darkseid's omega beam will look like he's firing pitchforks out of his eyes or something equally stupid
>>81191407
You know how he could've saved more time?
By not having Lois chuck the Kryptonite Spear into the water!
>>81191327
>>81191198
>New Gods
>being modeled after old, traditional Gods
0/10
>>81191420
Or go the human avatar route.
>>81191499
I wouldn't mind the whole "angel/demon" thing.
Snyder wants to be blunt, he can at least go full hog with it. Like an Angelic Orion who transforms into a demon when he gets out of control.
That would be awesome, honestly
Could have been either Steppenwolf or Trigon.
Makes sense how he knew about Darkseid at the end now.
Also how he figured out combining Zod and his blood would make doomsday
Looks like Yuga Khan
>shit explaining stuff was deleted
>more fights and explosions added
so the ultimate edition will be superior right?
>>81191187
That's a relief
>>81191654
Yeah. Is it out soon?
>>81191344
the movie has already a lot of confusing scenes even moreso for normies, this scene is making the movie only into a bigger mess.
>>81191654
This is literally the exact same situation with Watchmen
>>81191637
Thought this too, but i bet it's just some random design Snyder and his team came up with and that's why the scene got cut.
>>81191674
probably not until july or august
>>81191493
>the absolute god of the concept of evil...had a daddy
Bleh. Better off forgotten and never used again.
>>81190905
Why was this important plot point removed? I wonder if this is going to be like Blade Runner where the theatrical version was meh but after 10 director's cuts it'll be good.
There's no reason this 44 second clip should of been removed when Bruce floats like haysus for 10 minutes.
>>81191696
Wonderful.
>>81191674
Sometime in June I think
>>81191674
July 16th according to AMAZON
>>81191696
That's pretty good turnaround for the DVD. Remember how long we had to wait for the Rogue Cut?
They're probably releasing it just before Suicide Squad to get people hyped.
>>81191730
REEEE I NEED IT NOW.
>>81191709
One is god of evil, other is god of tyranny.
>>81191722
>>81191730
Not cool, Snyder. Cutting all parts of movie.
>>81191709
iirc Yuga Khan's one of the Gods in nu52 Captain Marvel/Shazam's Darkseid War pantheon
It's actually pretty neat
>>81190905
So we are definitely getting new gods in JL
>>81191767
>JL with Aquaman, Mera, Miracle and Barda
Why the fuck am I hyping myself.
>The entire scene of throwing the spear into the water and Superman saving Lois again made it.
>This gets cut.
>>81191503
Remove all the scenes of Lois chasing the fucking bullet... Seriously what was the payout of all that?
Lex luthor is evil? Didn't he do enough in the rest of the movie to establish that?
>>81191709
He's SHAZAMs bitch now.
ugh stupid movie
why is this a deleted scene?
You have all these dream sequences but the actual worldbuilding isn't in the theatrical cut? BAKA
>>81191783
Whoever edited this movie needs to be put out of a job for god's sake
christ so many scenes to supposed to be in the movie to make sense of why luthor was smug on that tower
but we got movie felicity scene instead
>>81191780
>Archangel Lightray
It's such a dumb idea...but also somewhat something I need asap
Those blocks that he has looks similar to the one being used on Cyborg, right?
>>81191520
Highfather before Chiang redesigned him was literally just the judeo-christian image of god.
>>81191805
2nd, how fucking thick can you get?
>>81191839
Motherboxes anon
>>81191839
motherboxes
yeah
>>81190905
>yfw ultimate cut of BvS pulls a Kingdom of Heaven and turns out amazing
>>81191820
Him, Highfather and Metron I can picture as angels. I really wonder what will be Miracle. Probably like that guy in Supernatural. Looking like average Joe and later he smites everything in room.
>>81191851
>>81191863
Sweet. Thanks anons.
>>81191344
Too much blood for pg-13.
>>81191733
The problem with the Rogue cut was that the CGI was at 0% done. This scene with Lex has finished CGI and was cut for time.
>>81191873
the plot of the movie was shit.
additional scenes can't fix that.
As soon as the ultimate edition was announced with like 30 mins of extra footage, I had no doubt it would be far superior to the theatrical just like Watchmen. I only watch the director's cut of Watchmen for the same reason. Shame Snyder always makes movies designed to be 3 hours + but studio forces to cut it down for theatrical
>>81191873
>yfw ultimate cut of BvS pulls a Watchmen and turns out amazing
Snyder's done this before
Jesus Christ why is this not in the movie?! I loved the movie but this would have made Lex's PINGing so much clearer.
>>81191873
well duh, for DC fans who understood what was going on most of the problems are just editing.
>>81191925
>I only watch the director's cut of Watchmen for the same reason
What is added in director's cut?
>>81191873
But it's too late
>>81191839
That skit was the worst of the three teasers: the magical box floating towards cyborg was goofy as fuck.
> It's advance magical-science, aint gotta explain shit!
>>81191379
That's what I figured happened when I watched the movie, but it's nice to get some explicit textual evidence for that too.
>>81191932
>>81191953
I think there's something like 30ish minutes added and we get death of hollis which was great
>>81191971
He's holding third cube with his dick, right? What a man.
>>81191843
>>81191520
God isn't one of the Old Gods in DC, though. He still supersedes the New Gods, or at least is equal to them. It's never really explained.
>>81191982
Well, it's been awhile since I watched movie. I know what I'll do tonight.
Guys guys guys... I thought that the "CLARK YOU NEED TO GO AND WRITE FOOTBAAALLLLL" was more important that this shit... Steppenwhat? Get this furry things out of muh DC.
Is it New Gods or are they going the magic route? Specially considering Enchantress in SS.
>>81192060
>wanting to cut based-as-fuck Perry White
Fuck you. If they could cut anything, the Jonathan Kent daydream needs to go.
>>81192065
Why would they overlap?
>>81192027
The parts that suck still suck anon.
>>81190950
They're playing a losing game of catch-up, like the other anons mentioned, and I honestly believe WB heads thought it would make fans go wild.
Which is sort of true, but it also makes the movie an incoherent mess.
>>81192065
When you get out into a big enough cosmic scale, "magic" kind of describes everything. The Lantern Corps, the Speed Force, etc.
>>81192060
Except one of the main complaints people have is that the movie has tons of unnecessary scenes setting up a sequel, and that's exactly what this one is.
>>81192094
Nothing is perfect. I don't expect high art from it.
this could've expained how luthor got jailed
cause im pretty sure its not because of movie felicity smoak
>>81192081
They cut my Jimmy, I'll cut their Perry.
>>81191918
Yes it can.
>>81192011
I meant in design. Highfather looks just like the representation of Yahve. Big beard, white long hair, wise. He even has the crooked staff which symbolises that he's a sheperd.
>>81192109
But this explains Lex's breakdown at the end. Fans of the comics can contextualise that breakdown, but casual moviegoers would have been more forgiving of the prison sequence if they'd seen this 5 minutes earlier.
Also this would have looked badass on a cinema screen.
>>81191344
Non-comic readers don't have time to follow a plot, they came here to see a cape-battle that plays into all of their expectations.
>>81192104
>Speed Force
But both of those things are "scientific" at the cosmic scale, being derived from different parts of the universe. Magic like Constantine and Zatana deal with sorta disappears at the cosmic level.
>>81192119
But Jimmy was not cut, he was shot...
>>81191344
Even if it was included, plebs wouldn't get it.
>perfectly framed, amazing visuals which look straight out of a high class painting
>no establishing shot and it just cuts to the soldier ziplining down
How the hell do you get the harder things correct and completely miss the basics
>>81191709
What really irks me is that Kahn is stated to be even WORSE than Darkseid yet there's barely any material with him pre-nu52.
>>81192109
I would argue that Batman and Luthor's character arcs both rely on how they transition from the mundane world to an understand of just how much shit is going on in the wider DCU. Whereas Batman is able to move past his own personal crusade and obsessions and start to see the other superheroes as potential allies instead of threats, Lex gets hit HARD by Anti-Life and instead is initiated into the even LARGER threats to his worldview than Superman and Batman.
>>81192060
Ideally, we would find a balance between Superman, Batman, and Luthor. Having Amy Adams do her own thing was nice, but it takes time away from the 3 main perspectives needed.
Maybe if they cut out all the boring politics out of this movie cut down holly hunter and scoot mcnairy's roles and instead added all the worldbuilding and character development scenes this would have been better.
>>81191918
I mean, that's exactly what happened with Kingdom of Heaven.
The theatrical release was missing some VERY IMPORTANT KEY PLOT ELEMENTS, which executives deemed as unneeded.
The movie received a lukewarm response, citing plot issues.
Then the director's cut came out with everything in-tact, and critics drastically changed their tunes, some even calling it Ridley's best film.
Granted, the original release of KoH still wasn't mauled to death by critics, but it could happen to a smaller degree with BvS.
>>81192130
Of all the casual moviegoers' problems with Lex, the dinging honestly hasn't even come up that often, and the fact that he refers mysteriously to someone coming and Batman also knows someone is coming should give them enough context to figure it out.
AFFLECK!
AFFLECK!
IT'S SNYDER. IT'S SNYDER.
YOU WERE RIGHT ABOUT HIM.
REMOVE SNYDER.
AFFLECK? AM I TOO EARLY?
This moment actually helps explain a character's mental state and actions towards the end of the film.
They cut this in favour of forced cameos that have nothing to do with the plot. Good job DC
>>81192147
Sorry, what I meant is that the DCU fundamentally runs on narrative laws, which are subjective and human-centered. The farther you go out in scope, the more personal and intimate the themes and narratives become.
Magic in the DCU is also dependent on subjective mind-sets and is beholden to narrative laws and concepts.
>Superman is treated like an absolute in the movie instead of a character
That's the entire point. Literally the opening monologue sets this up. He is the remaining diamond absolute from 1938 still relevant in our time. JL will be about recovering this diamond to save ourselves.
>that hype moment in JL when Superman returns and stares Darkseid down
Gonna be chilling
>>81192119
He is dead.
>>81192196
I think the Extended Edition would solve a lot of the film's problems, so its a shame that's not what's getting a wide release. As I said earlier, I actually love the movie as it is, but can see where people had problems. An extended cut isn't going to make it any more "fun", but it could address some of the story/editing issues.
I hope she goes full frontal nude in the R rated cut
>>81192232
If they just contextualized the dream sequences properly it'd go a long way to addressing some of the problems.
>>81192231
I know
>>81191715
It wasn't removed. It was already pretty blatant how Lex wanted to kill Superman to soften the Earth up for Darkseid to invade.
>>81190905
Lex was great in this movie. I hated him at first but he just works. Cavill's Superman is awful though. It's like someone played a prank on Snyder and gave him Ultraman comics to read with Superman shopped into them and told him that Superman should have a permanent scowl on his face at all times. This Superman never smiles once and when he shows up, it feels like he's Thor. Instead of inspiring hope, it's fear.
This was a better BvS movie in every single way.
>>81191198
>Darkseid
He was fuckin in THIS movie. He is the big Hulk-ish dude who punches out Batman in the post apocalyptic dream, just before we see time travelling Flash.
He looks like a smaller Hulk wearing red fishing goggles.
>>81192201
>AM I TOO EARLY?
Yes, your scene was suppose to be after the credits, not in the middle of the movie.
>>81191813
I wonder how long the extended version will be.
>>81192201
That pedostache is pissing me off
>>81192220
>that hype moment in JL when Superman returns and stares Darkseid down
.....ok, now I'm way fucking hype for the JL movies. If they do a no holds bared beatdown on Apokalips a la DCAU I will fucking squeal in my seat
>I am many things, Kal-El.......but here, I am God.
>>81192304
Three hours allegedly if the articles reporting about it are to be believed.
>>81192220
>Superman's theme blaring as he comes to the rescue and sunlight breaks Darkseid's near victory, rallying a beaten Justice League
https://youtu.be/ShTw1x2Lsrc
>>81192282
Lex was trash, hopefully Luthor Sr. shows up alive and well sometime later on
Cavill's Clark was great, his Superman would have been too if Snyder didn't stick him into a million 9/11s every other day
>>81192304
+30mins
Instead of this we got bullshit FBI scouring Lex's residence and then we got the jail haircut
Which is more relevant to the DCU?
>>81192298
That was a parademon, anon. Just a bigger one than the flying ones.
Like, a ground troop instead of a flying one.
>>81192298
>he never reads the comics
That was a fucking Parademon, you twit. They're like Darkseid's Flying Monkeys
>>81192298
That was a parademon. Are you retarded or just trolling?
>>81192340
>Cavill's Clark was great
No. He wasn't.
>>81192298
I'm sure that's a parademon
>>81192332
I just want the "I AM THE NEW GOD" scene from Final Crisis.
If they were smart they'd release the Special Edition to theatres.
>>81192398
>implying he'll get to that line when Murderbat kills him five minutes after he shows up
>>81192407
Judging from the fact that they uploaded the Communion scene to Youtube so quickly after the premiere, I think they realized that they fucked up.
>>81192340
>Superman would have been too if Snyder didn't stick him into a million 9/11s every other day
That was the entire point, anon. The beginning bit with Bruce in Metropolis was supposed to be that universes version of 9/11. They even had a ground view up the plane hitting the world engine and a cloud of dust billowing down the street that Bruce ran into. The emergence of "the Superman" was a game changing event for all of humanity
>>81192425
Murderbat was just hopping around against Doomsday
>>81191267
that voice is so alien, so awesome.
can't wait to see the rest of Darkseid's crazy alien gang
I wonder why this scene was cut at what point did they say, no that's too many Easter Eggs?
>>81192425
I have a policy about guns...they're fine. Your mom's not Martha too, is she?
[gunshot over black screen, credits roll]
>>81192444
No, this was already planned.
This clip is the result of the countdown on the Lex OS website, that started on the 25th.
>>81192447
Do you think that's some sort of shocking revelation? Everyone knows that. He was talking about something else. Pay attention.
>>81192458
That was one of my favorite bits
>Batwing crashes into the Gotham dock
>Doomsday charging straight at him
>".... Shit."
That got huge laughs out of the audience I saw the movie with on Thursday night.
>>81192104
>Speed Force is magic
Mopee pls go
>>81192479
Ah, that's pretty cool.
>>81192468
>too many Easter Eggs?
But is it really just an Easter Egg or an important plot point for the future direct of the DCEU? That's the problem I think they were running into during the editing process, telling the difference between the two concepts.
>>81192507
My theatre laughed at the scene where Superman stares blankly in the inferno that was his Senate hearing.
It was just such a goofy moment in how it tried to look serious and poignant.
Despite all the shit, it's hard not to mark out for New Gods.
>>81192507
The only time I really laughed was when Bruce asked Alfred what was going on, and Alfred stared at the newsreel of Doomsday before replying "How best to describe it?"
>>81192126
>>81191843
>literally Isaiah
>shepherd's staff
I don't care about Highfather.
But the rest of the New God pantheon shouldn't be watered down for the plebs, playing to insipid "christian" tropes.
We had that first Thor movie. People still remember Masters of the Universe. DCCU can do space gods.
Also
>Bearded man with a staff is the abrahamic image of god
Don't make me laugh. That's the image of a judeo-christian patriarch, which is what Highfather is.
>DC so desperate to catch up to Marvel they shove all this into a single film
They need to learn the value of patience.
>>81192507
>Times people laughed in the cinema I was at
>"Shit"
>Freaks dressed like clowns
>Is she with you?
>>81192539
Yeah.
To see the countdown you had to log-in with Mercy's credentials (shown during the movies credits, username 'mgraves' and password 'lexicon') and it would show (and it still does) a scan being performed on the kryptonian ship that would end in about 300,000 seconds (if I remember correctly), meaning, today.
>>81192636
It's far too late for patience, DC made the mistake of making Batman standalone, which certainly made for better films probably, but it killed all possibility of franchise, as Nolan's Batman simply couldn't exist in a Superman world.
Oh. So that's what the ding-ing at the prison and the "HE IS COMING" was all about.
Shit, they really needed to have shown this.
>>81192407
It shouldn't have even been a Special Edition. You add back those 30 minutes, and yes, it'll be 3 hours, but you have no competition for the 1st 3 weeks. People are willing to watch long movies as long as it's engaging. But then there are fewer daily viewings for theaters unless it takes up more screens.
>>81192126
No, the source is god, Isaiah is his prophet. He's always interpreting the Source's words and relaying them to others.
>>81192547
If there was any moment for Superman to scream again, that would have been it. I don't know why Snyder insists on having Cavill just stand there and let all the actors do all the work.
>>81192686
>made the mistake of making Batman standalone
What
Cinematic universes weren't even a thing when Nolanverse started
>>81192706
>HE IS COMING
You'd have been able to deduce that without this scene but it definitely would have helped given how it's only 45 seconds long and they left in pointless stuff in there like Lois throwing the kryptonite spear into a well then drowning herself trying to retrieve it
>>81192340
>>81192282
i wouldn't be surprised if Darkseid possess and we'll have Jesse playing the biggest villain the DCU
it's not like this universe isn't already fucked anyway
>>81190905
Fucking love this film
>>81192638
>Batman realizing that the Kryptonite wore off on Superman
>"Shit."
>I thought she was with you"
There was very little audience reaction for most of the first half of the movie (I heard some audible gasps with Flash's appearance) but in the last act people started to really get into it.
>>81192795
I walked out of Man of Steel pretty positive and the more I reflected on it the more it started leaving a bad taste in my mouth.
I walked out of BvS liking it, and the more I talk about it, the more I realize all what I enjoyed about it.
Shit there's another showing for it this afternoon at 2:30 that I'm seriously considering going for, since I have today off of work.
>>81192772
Yeah, the Lois and the Spear stuff was probably the most useless part of the movie, and that ate up a LOT of time near the end.
I'unno, was there anything else whatsoever connecting Lex with Darkseid/the New Gods besides having video information on Cyborg?
>>81192479
SSSSSSNNNNYYYYDDDEEERRRR
>>81192636
Editing issues aside, they made it work. We got the seeds for future films instead of some assinine "We are....the Justice League!" kinda shit right before the end credits.
If anything, it made me get hype for a god damn Aquaman movie. Ten year old me would laugh in my face if he ever knew that.
>>81192282
He felt like a big, stupid puppy dog in the bathtub scene. He needs more moments like that to endear him.
>>81190905
>Lex literally communicated with Parademons and called Darkseid down to earth
Seriously, why? I can understand people saying his motivation is to tear down the idea of a benevolent god at any cost, but WHY!? Daddy hit him and he became a fedora atheist so that makes him want to destroy the fucking planet?
His father being a cruel god and making young Lex hate him makes young Lex want to bring more evil gods to Earth? The fuck kind of sense does that make?
>>81191932
>I loved the movie
Calm down shill.
>>81192479
Thats actually some good viral shit for a change.
Will it be in the R-rated release?
>>81192883
I don't think he called them down.
He's scared. He's fucking broken.
I think they contacted him.
>>81192860
>they made it work
Not really. Batman has been around for 20 years but everyone acts like he's a new? Flash using Dreamforce? Trying to introduce a weird big bad so early? It's shit.
>>81192860
I think the actual close ups underwater, with Aquaman or whoever doing something, just looks too slow to look cool because it's water. CGI everything else looks great.
>>81192888
Not a shill. Went in ready to be disappointed, came out very happy. Happy accident.
>>81192883
I don't think he meant to call them intentionally. He was messing around with the Kryptonian ship logs and messed up. My theory is that Darkseid told him to kill Superman so that when he shows up Earth can be taken over easily, even tells him how to do it, with the kryptonite and what not.
>>81192951
>Batman has been around for 20 years but everyone acts like he's a new?
Batman's not new. Him treating criminals so brutally and branding them is new. Before that point I got the sense that he was more discrete in his actions.
>>81192273
>wanted to kill Superman to soften up the Earth for Darkseid invasion
But.... why?
This doesnt sound like something Lex would do. Thats some Loki shit. I thought Lex's entire point in this film was to be an epic anonymoos troll and make superheroes fight and kill each other for his own amusement to make them look like dicks and that humans are true supeeior peaceful race.
I think maybe Superman dying wasnt a part of his plan and his crazed reaction at the end was him realizing he fucked up big time since Darkseid would likely destroy the earth now
>>81192883
From the looks of it, Lex has been in contact with Apokalips for a while now. Might explain his pseudo-insanity, and would tie back to the comics where Luthor spent a few months with Darkseid when he was younger (and where he got his classic powersuit from)
>>81192990
Then why does the cop shoot at him? Why has Clark never heard of him?
>>81191407
Aagh I really wish that's just the case. I so desperately want this movie to pull a Kingdom of Heaven.
>>81192998
No I think he was intentionally trying to kill Supes because he figured that Supes would either turn evil and help Darkseid take over the world, or wouldn't be strong enough to resist him and humanity would fall because they put all their hope and trust in him.
Remember his Problem of Evil speech.
>>81193013
Which run was that?
The Lex OS site has simple tests... I wonder once you finish all of them what you get. Since it looks like the site has even more things.
>>81193029
Urban Legend. That's why I said he was more discrete and didn't make news as much.
>>81192301
>after the credits
No, a true movie doesn't do that.
>>81193058
For 20 fucking years? As if.
>mfw none of you normies appreciate how unbeleivably good it looks
>>81192998
>But.... why?
Stop thinking of him as egomaniac comic Lex. Think of him as Snyder movie Darkseid's bitch Lex. All his reasoning and justifications in the movies for hating Superman aren't his primary motive, doing Darkseid's will is. Kill for Darkseid, die for Darkseid.
>>81190983
But why play catch up?
I thought the whole idea was to be there own thing.
Also they haven't thought through the fact that MCU will either have to switch out cast members soon and that could effete things.
>>81193029
wihthout all the world events, he is only acting in gotham with all his crazy villians, also batman scared the hell out of that cop.
>>81193085
oh yeah
>and sounds
>>81193013
>Meeting the gods of Apokalips drives people insane
>DC fans thinking shoving in more commercials for future movies with characters that normies don't give a shit about would fix this film
Dream sequences - useless
Justice League cameos - useless
Wonder Woman even being there - useless
Lex being a crazy person because le epic evil god - useless
They should focus on telling a story NOW, and they failed
>>81191407
>bet all of the deleted scenes are actual crucial to this movie being good and Snyder removed them for more CGI esplosions
Literally the same thing he did with Watchmen. Better cut all these character stuff so we can keep the long sex scene!
>>81192946
He killed Superman (the only widely known defensive option Earth had) and now the table is set for Darkseid's invasion. I don't understand why people think that Lex purposefully brought Darkseid over.As terribly as the movie was edited, I love the lore already help
>>81193111
>he is only acting in Gotham
Which is literally right next to Metropolis and there's no excuse for Clark not to know who Bruce Wayne is.
>>81193033
Or Darkseid told him to kill Superman using kryptonite.
>>81192638
People loved the "I am a friend of your son" bit at m theater.
>>81193145
It's the first good COMIC book movie mate.
>>81193145
>Lex being a crazy person because le epic evil god - useless
Lex was bugfuck insane before he found out about Apokalips. Just in the more banal kind of crazy that relies on sociopathy and a blatant disregard for empathy or value of human life.
After he finds out about Apokalips? Well, buddy I don't think you quite understand what Anti-Life actually IS.
>>81193165
Me neither.
I think it's clear that he learned about Darkseid solely in that scene.
And it's terrified him
>>81193105
Because WB realized world-building is one of the things that led to Marvel's domination.
>>81193145
>Wonder Woman even being there - useless
>>81193087
Well until I actually see that in the next film I will just think of him as egomaniacal lex because thats what he was in the film. His plan to unleash doomsday and tarnish the publics perception of superman existed before he contacted Darkseid unless someone severely fucked up in the editing room.
I refuse to believe that DC has made Lex Luthor essentially the same character and function as MCU Loki (who has been Thanos' bitch this whole time)
>>81193223
Oh right same here, I nearly forgot about that bit.
>>81193193
Clark's still a newcomer to Metropolis too, remember.
I think Snyder saw a pic of Ex Nihilo and didn't get told the character was Marvel
Brainiac/some Kryptonian shit would kinda make sense?
Pray those things aren't motherboxes
>extend disc version edition will fix it
And we have reach bargaining yet again
>>81193227
Nah.
>>81193257
She has no personality or importance in the film at all. She's a walking, talking commercial for the WW movie and nothing else. You could remove her easily.
>>81193145
>Lex being a crazy person because le epic evil god - useless
t.casual
>>81193262
He's been a reporter there for at least 2 years.
So is everyone from Apokolips gonna be some CGI monster? Are we gonna see a human looking Mr Miracle try and fuck a monstrous Big Barda?
>>81193165
>I don't understand why people think that Lex purposefully brought Darkseid over.
Because of the enthusiastic tone he had during the ring scene. He also seemed to be working together with Darkseid in convincing Batman to fight Superman (Darkseid gave Batman the nightmares). Darkseid might have made him some promises for when he conquered Earth.
>>81193302
Guess what? Casuals buy tickets, retard.
>>81193145
>Dream sequences - useless
It's a bit "out of nowhere" but I wouldn't say it's useless.
>Justice League cameos - useless
True.
>Wonder Woman even being there - useless
Not really, since the main prupose of the movie is to set the justice league.
>Lex being a crazy person because le epic evil god - useless
I don't get your point. It's useless to make different choices of acting?
>>81193314
I figure that the Female Furies would be more like succubuses.
>>81193277
Honestly Snyder would do a lot better with a Marvel film than DC. He really just wants constant symbolism with action in between and I feel there are a lot more Marvel IPs that would fix that itch for him.
>>81193291
That's cause it's not her movie and she's literally just making a cameo. You know what those are right? Did you also cry about black widow showing up in Iron Man 2, beating up a bunch of people then leaving you marvel drone?
> She's a walking, talking commercial for the WW movie
Yeah no kidding, and now more people will go see it (myself included) What people are agreeing on is that they should have put the JL stuff with Cyborg, Flash and Aquaman in the post credits, not in the middle of the movie.
>>81193291
>She has no personality or importance in the film at all. She's a walking, talking commercial for the WW movie and nothing else. You could remove her easily.
Batman spends most of the movie obsessed with getting the Kryptonite to kill Superman. Wondy kind of helps to redirect him to realize that he could be using that access and those resources in other ways, and that there's way more to the universe than just his personal vendettas.
>>81193087
This is so wrong
>>81193165
>>81193228
These guys are right. Lex has nothing to gain from killing superman and inviting Darkseid to Earth. Thats either slavery or suicide.
yfw he does the four horseman shit from nuEarth-2
>>81192334
There's 37 extra minutes, including scenes of Clark investigating Batman in Gotham that was completely cut.
I have to believe that stuff will fix this film.
>>81193335
Yeah casuals buy tickets but maybe they should stop acting like they know what they're talking about. Lex being obsessed with the anti-life equation and other planets is a big part of who his comic character is.
>>81193352
Based on our talk about the Apokaliptians being monstrous in appearance, I like the Final Crisis idea of them having human avatars.
Deleted scenes so far. Some remain slightly unconfirmed, tho.
>Extended North Africa opening segment, with Lois meeting Jimmy and being escorted to the warlord's compound by a group of operators on horseback.
>Another nightmare sequence where Bruce Wayne finds Robin's dead body while Wayne Manor burns to the ground, with the Joker's laugh echoing in the hallways.
>Another scene of Diana at a charity auction.
>Another few scenes of Bruce being depressed.
>Clark Kent interviewing inmates at Blackgate Penitentiary about Batman.
>Clark and Lois pillow talk.
>Superman having a nightmare about Metropolis' destruction.
>Superman having a vision of General Zod showing up in the Arctic to torment him.
>Extended Batmobile chase.
>Extended Batman VS. Superman including Batman's full speech.
>Extended Trinity VS. Doomsday with more violence.
>Extended epilogue with the funerals.
>This Communion scene.
>Some other scenes of Lex being villainous in private.
>>81191709
>Darkseid
>the absolute god of the concept of evil
Pick one
>>81193415
That too as well.
Someone mentioned those like Mr. Miracle being like that guy from Supernatural...pure angelic energy hidden in inconspicious people.
I can get behind that.
>>81193328
>Because of the enthusiastic tone he had during the ring scene
I thought that made him sound genuinely disturbed. Like, he was always a crackpot but his mind was completely broken in the prison.
>(Darkseid gave Batman the nightmares)
I thought that was Flash showing Batman an alternate version of the future, where Lois died and after Superman was revived he became one of Darkseid's thralls because he couldn't resist his anti life.
>>81193279
It's already great though.
>>81193431
Where does Barbra fit into this?
>>81193137
>Gods of Apokalips are treated as Lovecraftian horrors beyond comprehension
Honestly, I think this is the only true way you can do Darkseid justice on film. Drop the schemes, drop the hammy "I AM" boasting and just let him be that cold, dark thing that worms into your dreams and stays there, haunting you...
>>81192201
Who was that, anyway? The Flash? It would explain the time travel and the mask.
>>81193431
Snyder and his fucking dreams and vision shit. ALL that needs to be cut out.
>>81193328
I think Luthor's enthusiastic because Darkseid invading, in his mind, somehow proves that he was still right about Superman all along.
>>81193431
>Superman having a vision of General Zod showing up in the Arctic to torment him.
I knew Shanon wasn't only there to play a dead body.
>>81193348
>It's a bit "out of nowhere" but I wouldn't say it's useless.
Yes it is. It adds almost nothing to the film. You could remove them easily and we would still all the same information on motivations, plot, etc.
>Not really, since the main prupose of the movie is to set the justice league.
The main purpose of the film is Batman versus Superman. Setting up the Justice League is tacked on to play catch up.
>>81193372
>lel marvel drone!
Guess what, you don't have to like Marvel to see how shitty BvS is.
>and now more people will go see it (myself included)
Good goyim, pre-order more tickets, yes, yes!
>>81193378
He could realize that a million different ways. She's not necessary.
>>81193413
Casuals don't give a shit about the comics, nerds. Make a good MOVIE. Not make a bunch of useless references to comics that have nothing to do with the current film.
>>81193512
Angry Joe
>>81193348
>but I wouldn't say it's useless.
They neither improve the character nor the narrative. At most you are just given an idea of what might matter.
>Not really, since the main prupose of the movie is to set the justice league.
But in terms of narrative she is not needed. They don't even clearly show what brought her to the city in the first place and short of maybe some interactions fight doomsday her purpose isn't needed.
>it's useless to make different choices of acting?
See above. More the fact that it offers nothing. Many cinematic cape villains act nothing like there comic counterpart but there is at least an understand as to way most of the time.
>>81192201
I didn't watch the movie, and only watched a review. Is that supposed to be the Flash? No fucking way, I thought Rich was completely off of his rocker, and something like that would be too completely stupid to include in the middle of a movie.
>>81190905
He's communication to Steppenwolf who is Jesu for some reason
>>81193431
Slightly unnecessary, but I liked Lois and seeing more of her is nice.
More fucking dream sequences what the fuck
Boring
Boring
CLARK KENT ACTUALLY FUCKING DOING SOMETHING HOLY SHIT YES WHY DID THIS GET CUT
More Clark and Lois being adorable hell yes
ENOUGH WITH THE DREAM SEQUENCES
JESUS
More footage of Batman murdering mooks? Ehhhh no.
More of the final two fights would be great though
Oh god no the ending with the funerals was protracted enough already. Some major ending fatigue there.
The Communion scene is pretty fucking great, I'm confused why it got cut if it's only like 30 seconds long.
>post yfw the extra 37 minutes DOES fix enough to make you satisfied with the movie
>hate how the movie was constructed but love the lore and the implications for the DC universe
This movie should've just been a novel
>>81193431
DREAM SEQUENCES: THE MOVIE
Does Hack Snyder know how to explore character motivations and struggles without dream sequences?
>>81193431
>Nightmares and visions: The movie
>Everything everyone does in this movie is motivated by their dreams
Imagine if the real world worked like that. I'd be sleeping with super models everyday.
>>81193527
Well he was on set with green flippers on his hands, I'm guessing for Doomsday.
>>81193352
>muscle demoness Barda bedding tiny Miracle angel
>>81193431
>Another nightmare sequence where Bruce Wayne finds Robin's dead body while Wayne Manor burns to the ground, with the Joker's laugh echoing in the hallways.
