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>release in a month what do you expect from it? will Russos
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>release in a month
what do you expect from it? will Russos deliver?
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Of course they will. They aren't called BASED RUSSOS for nothing.
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>>81186416
I expect this to be the best potrayal of Spiderman so far and how he changes sides in the movie, sees the two sides and be the moral center of the civil war.

Maybe also convince Tony Stark to not be a dick.
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Maybe. I'm gonna be cautiously optimistic.

TWS was great but it's only one movie under their belt, and it wouldn't be the first time executive involvement has killed a Marvel movie with a good director. It's a very tricky plot to pull off, too.

But if done well it could be the best MCU movie so far.
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>>81186416
>BvS ripoff
No thanks.
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>>81186416
I expect it to be good but with that much character which is kinda over crowd, I did not expect it to surpass WS.
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I'm just hoping for a unexpected reveal like they did with Arnim Zola.
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>>81186416
it'll be an overstuffed mess that people only defend for the sake of brand loyalty just like BvS

Good Spiderman movie when?
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>>81186480
>Good Spiderman movie when?

it was released 12 years ago
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>>81186480
2002.
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>>81186494
But if it isn't a Marvel Studios movie it's not good! /co/ says so!
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>>81186416
The first capekino feature of the year
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>>81186477
This is pretty much my expectation.
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>>81186499
Things no one has ever said for $500, Alex.
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Yo dude, there's dis porno bout two gangs whoz ass fight it up in a abandoned landin strip, Da Captain Crew n' tha Iron Men. Shiznit is goin ta pimped out, yo.
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>>81186516
lurk moar
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>>81186541
Point to a single post that ever said anything even resembling that.
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>>81186494
We're long overdue for another one
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>>81186541
For everyone who has good taste there's the Raimi movies and everyone who doesn't, there's the ASM movies. Never once have I seen someone say that none of those movies were good.
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>>81186548
>>81186480
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>>81186569
one one of those five movies was good
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>>81186585
Thank you for proving my point.
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>>81186573
>asked to provide proof people are saying only Marvel movies can be good
>quotes a post saying a Marvel movie's going to be shit, says a DC movie was shit too for good measure, and that they're only defended out of brand loyalty
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>>81186416

They have a well oiled machine for these movies at this point, the material is pretty safe and they haven't revealed there's a big bad to normies yet.

As long as it hits the minimal quips per minute quota it'll go down well. They'd need whoever edited BvS to crash this
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>>81186606
>says a DC movie was shit too for good measure
Stan Lee forbid we criticize Marvel without attacking DC too!
>>81186620
>They'd need whoever edited BvS to crash this
See?
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The Russos are mediocre at best, but because most of the marvel movies are pretty trash they are like the best trash out the bunch.
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>they had to beg Sony for Spider-Man to make sure people give a fuck about this new MS crap
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>>81186541
DCfags strawman doesn't count Johnson
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>>81186642
name five better directors of the past six years
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>>81186634

Okay, watch this. I'm gonna blow your mind.

Captain America: The Winter Soldier was bad.

Are you satisfied?
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>>81186673
You mean there are directors who (gasp!) don't make capeshit?
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>>81186416
I expect the marvel drones to be in full force

its going to be shill hell week here
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>>81186685
Tch tch. White lies are still lies.
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>>81186702
Okay.

Thor 2 was bad.
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Frankly, I think people will flock to see this movie because Spider-Man. Which means it's thanks to Sony, not Marvel, that the movie will make tons of money.
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>>81186721
If I were you, I'd stop watching bad movies.
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>>81186724
It's also staring Captain America and Iron Man.

You remember Iron Man right? The guy who's last movie grossed 1.2 billion?
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>>81186733
Right, which is why I've given up on the DCEU.
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>will Russos deliver

They're only 1 for 1 so far

That said, probably.
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>>81186724
I'm pretty sure people were going to flock to see this anyway because "Cap and Iron Man are fighting in it"
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>>81186756
See? >>81186634

>>81186745
>>81186766
Normies will love it, I give you this.
>oh boy, just like BvS!
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>>81186416
>will Russos deliver?

Considering how much they care about the capekino, and how different they are from the whack whedon. I'd say yes
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>>81186461
>I'm gonna be cautiously optimistic.

This

Remember that Favreau and Whedon whose second MCU movie were disappointing compared to their first outing
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>>81186785
>capekino
Before I filter this word, care to tell me what it means? I don't visit /tv/.
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>>81186782
Why do people switch between shitting on normies for their casual taste but relying on normies for their box office. This applies to pretty much every comic book movie
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>>81186801
high quality version of capeshit
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>>81186782
I was joking about swearing off the DCEU, anon. Snyder's not a good director, but that doesn't mean I'm giving up a bunch of potentially great cape films. I supposed I will admit that I'm not really looking forward to any of their future movies besides Suicide Squad.
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>>81186823
Well, capeshit never was about quality. Just ask Disny execs.

To the filter it goes.
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>>81186801
'the citizen kane of 'ppbbbbbbbbrbbbrbbrbrbt
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>>81186801

german for cinema
posted ironically to indicate something is avant garde
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>>81186801
Here's your guide
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>>81186801
Capeshit with a particular artistic vision and cinema characteristics. Not your retarded by the numbers average popcorn flick. In fact, not a single MCU movie qualifies as capekino.

Hulk 2003, SM1 and 2, X2, TDK, Burton Batman qualify as capekino. They really dont care about muh comic books but more like about making good films.
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why isn't it called captain america v iron man?
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>>81187011
It's bait, But I'll bite, Because it's A Civil War, It's not just Cap vs. Iron Man.
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>>81186886
So in order to be kino, all you have to do is hate the source material and basically just shit out whatever random idea you had in your head then slap a popular brand on it for free advertising?
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>>81186849
What a retarded term.
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>>81187531
perfect for you then
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>>81186416
As one of the minority who found Winter Soldier to be pretty bland and dumb, I still have hopes for this. I just have a hard time taking Tony seriously, I'm probably going to have to view this movie as a standalone thing. His character arc has been so inconsistent across the MCU, and he's generally such a piece of shit, I don't understand how anyone could take his side of the conflict. Even if his side were "correct", he's such a fucking scumbag that I would disagree with him on principle.
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>>81186416
I think it'll be an entertaining movie with very little substance that I never want to watch a second time. Just like every other MCU movie.
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>>81186480
>Spiderman
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>>81186721
There was a Thor 2?
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I expect it to surpass Avengers and AoU, maybe be on par with WS, def on par with Guardians.

What hasn't been revealed that you guys think we'll see?
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>>81188277

>What hasn't been revealed that you guys think we'll see?

The third act, apparently. The Russos said the ending doesn't have a BvS team-up to fight a bigger threat, and they said the parking lot fight that everyone has been memeing about is the end of the 2nd act.

This might be the first MCU movie where I really don't know what the fuck the third act is going to be, which is refreshing.
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>>81186886
>falling for /tv/ memes

tip top lel
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>>81188340
As long as they treat the war as an actual war instead of OMG A BAD GUY IS TOO TOUGH, We need to stop fighting and work together to defeat him! Teamwork yeah!, civil war will be actually good.
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>>81188340
It really is. Probably Cap and the few left in a last stand against Zola, I'm sure it'll be something game changing. The Avengers will probably be disassembled after the movie and reunited for Infinity War.
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>>81186416
>BvS has good promos
>movie was bad

I'm almost expecting the opposite
>promos look stupid
>movie will be compelling

Although, let's be honest here, that won't be the case and the top capeflick of 2016 will remain Memepool.
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>>81186416
I can't expect ANYTHING Civil War to EVER be good.
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>>81188419

>Zola

Zemo bruh. And we've already heard that he's not in the movie much and the Russos outright stated he's not going to be much like the comic Zemo.

The tea leaves seem to indicate that the MCU might be trying to turn Zemo into their equivalent of Doom, a big guy(4u) that will be around for multiple movies and face off againt multiple teams, someone that sticks. This is all rumour and conjecture though.
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>>81186416
>what do you expect from it?
Shit
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>>81186416
A much better "Vs." movie than BvS. Granted, that's kind of a low bar, seeing as BvS was a steaming pile of shit, but I definitely expect that.
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The final act is clearly Cap and Bucky vs Tony in that fortress in the snow
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>>81188544

If that's true I'd actually be pretty happy, it's be nice if one of these big MCU movies actually tightened their ending up instead of saving the "biggest" for last.
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>>81186656
No, Sony came willingly because they knew TASM had no future.
Hell, Marvel has Spiderman and they haven't paid a single cent.

Plus, it's Avengers 2.5, it's going to be a success no matter what.
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>>81188450
Fortunately the only thing this has to do with the comic is the idea of Avengers fighting each other.
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>>81186416
Daddyhawk.
Couldn't care about the rest.
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>>81188277
Giant-Man
Zemo
As anon said, what exactly the third act is
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>>81186656
>they had to beg Sony for Spider-Man
That is literally the opposite of what happened
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>>81188737

Seems like we see a lot of the Avengers looking after Scarlet Witch in this movie.
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>>81188987
I feel like her and WS will be the two most controversial members of the team. I bet she'll cause casualties or something
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i expect it to be the capekino we deserve and need so much
and at least a 90-100 in RT
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>>81189083
She's the one who fucks it up in Africa and accidentally kills a lot of people, which makes the government approve the accords.
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It'll get more than 30% on RT, that's for sure :^)
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>>81188987
>CapDad, Hawkdad and Antdad
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>>81189166

Check your local listings anon, it finally bottomed out at 29%
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>>81186526
/co/ truly is out of touch with the rest of the world
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>>81189232
That's average critics freshness score. Average rating is somewhere at 5/10 which is fitting
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>>81188987
>>81188737
is it true that Crossbones gonna kill Hawkeye's wife and Wanda is the one who's gonna take care his children after she's gone?
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>>81189304
Don't think so.
Crossbones blows himself up in Africa, Scarlet Witch tries to stop it but she fails and a lot of people end up dying.
Plus Crossbones' actor ended filming very soon, like two weeks in.
Something definatly happens that makes Hawkeye get out of retirement though.
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>>81188702
Since Fox got a new president after Tom "Deadpool will never be a success, now how is that Fantastic Four movie directed by Trank, I sure that be a success right?" Rothman. Hopefully they manage to finally bury the hatchet.
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>>81189334
Who's going to shoot Cap then.
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>>81186480

Wow, the salt is real.
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I expect it to be as good as WS or better. I expect RDJ not to deliberately halfass his performance like in AOU.
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>>81189393
He might get stroppy if he feels things are focused on him enough
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>>81189372
Iron Man, just to finish destroying his reputation and people don't miss him when he dies in Infinity War.
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>>81189372
__tony
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>>81189304
Crossbones gonna kill Hawkeye's wife
Doubt it

Wanda is the one who's gonna take care his children after she's gone?
Sound like fanfiction

>>81189372
Either Crossbones or Sharon Carter, or maybe even a triggered Bucky.
Either way the original title of Cap 3 was going to be Captain America: Fallen Son
According to the Russos, the theme of the movie is betrayal
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>>81186416
It looks bland honestly. And with all those characters I feel like way too much will be going on similar to age of ultron.
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>>81189372
Something tells me that if Cap is shot, they won't show the shooter. They'll leave it as a mystery until the next Avengers/Cap/whatever
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>>81186872

/tv/ is really gunning for that "Worst board" award, isn't it?
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>>81189466
>Bucky will shoot Cap after all he has done for him since he is still a little brainwashed by Hydra
POETRY
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>>81189681

>gunshot, fade to black

Yeah, no. This is not a high-school production.
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>>81189681

The Cap series is taking at least a three year hiatus after this and Infinity War is already overloaded without a "who killed cap" plot. They won't give us that kind of cliffhanger.
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>>81189769

What they probably WILL give us is Captain America in a coma instead of dead, so that he can come out of it right in time for Infinity War Part 2.
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>>81189779
Given how much has been said over characters dying in CW and how something that happens in CW will change the Marvel Universe going forward and has a big effect on everyone in that universe, there is a 99% chance they are going to kill Steve in CW.
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>>81189393
I think RDJ will do better in this. He was just bored in AoU there was no character growth. In this there is
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>>81189393
>>81190554
Yeah, RDJ is one of worries for this movie. Hopefully the plot doesn't revolve too much on him just in case he does fuck up.

The other worry is how Spider-Man will be implemented.
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>>81190688
For what it's worth, RDJ has said that for once in a long time, he was happy to be acting something which he agrees with. Maybe a dig at Whedon or the Producers, but he seemed pretty happy.
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>>81190881
Russos saving the MCU
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I'm probably going to enjoy it, but /tv/will flip their shit cause it's not "capekino".
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>>81190688
>The other worry is how Spider-Man will be implemented.

Spider-Man was always going to be a central part of the movie. If Marvel didn't get him, then the entire script would've been reworked.

Apparently, the higher ups told the Russos to make a plan B in case they couldn't get Spider-Man, but the Russos never did because they really wanted him in. He was an important part of it from the beginning.
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>>81186427
They did the impossible - a good Disney sequel.
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>>81191049

>but the Russos never did because they really wanted him in

That's not how things work in the world of multi-million dollar productions, especially not within Disney.
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>>81191049
I think the Plan B was for if they couldn't get RDJ

>>81191157
Rescuers Down Under?

Lion King 1 1/2?

Toy Story 2+3?
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>>81186441
>I expect this to be the best potrayal of Spiderman

expect this version to be way worse and boring than the previews two
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>>81191172
>That's not how things work in the world of multi-million dollar productions, especially not within Disney.

Maybe, but it what's the Russos said.
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Why is it called Captain America: Civil War when Spidey is the star? It should've been called Marvel's Civil War featuring Spidey from Spider-Man! instead.
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>>81191172
>>81191271

Here's my source for the Spider-Man/plan B thing

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/anthony-russo-reveals-spider-man-was-always-plan-a-for-captain-america-civil-war
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>>81191373
I know you're intentionally sounding retarded but there are people who really think this
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I've always been under the impression that Spidey's part is a glorified cameo. I bet he's no bigger a part of Civil War than Wonder Woman is to BvS. Is there any evidence that he is central to the story, other than that the character had a big part in the comic book?
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>>81186416
It'll be better than BvS, that's for sure.
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>>81186501
>capekino

go back to tv
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>>81186416
I know it got released on the casual filters, but damn if this edit didn't do a good job showing how Civil War got set up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cR6Xa6fEAg
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>>81189725
>Zemo appears to Bucky
>Says the secret word
>Sputnik
>Bucky brainwashed again
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>>81191517
>I've always been under the impression that Spidey's part is a glorified cameo.
It is

>>81191620
Love this shit
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>>81191517

Same here. I'm expecting him to play a similar role as Vision did in AoU. Ultimately relevant for the plot, but without a proper personal arc. The fact that he is set to appear for the first time after the half-way point seems to confirm this.
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>>81186801
It's a superhero movie which is also kinography, it's a little vague since it doesn't clue you in on if something is absolute kinography or just kino.
In the context it is usually understood though.
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I want to be excited for this, but I haven't even seen Winter Soldier yet and so far this looks like it's just gonna be Avengers 2.5.

>WS not available anywhere to rent because Marvel are a bunch of Jews
>still costs $30 to buy

I could pirate it I suppose but still, what the fuck.
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>>81191774
second half of avengers 1 and most of avengers 2 was just heroes vs faceless mooks so I have more faith in civil war
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>>81191774
Go to your local library. I bet my left nut it's either already on the shelf or they could have some other library sent there for you for free.
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expectations are too high, but at least there's better buzz than BvS.

I think it'll be okay. Not as disappointing as AoU, but not amazing, because they're gonna try to do so much shit.
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>>81191647
I can dig it
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>>81186416
The more characters a super hero tries to put in
the more it hampers the movie

probably about Age of Ultron's level. maybe a little worse, maybe a little better
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>>81191647
More like
>end of the movie
>bucky in crowd watching Steve entering the courtroom
>Zemo out of nowhere shakes hands with a confused bucky
>secret word
>Bucky brainwashed
>Zemo with nonchalance shoots in the public creating chaos and gives a gun to bucky
>bucky shoots Cap in the confusion
>brainwash goes off
>bucky witness what has done and starts his quest for revenge and rendeption
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>>81186501
DC movie: Sally sells sea shells by the seashore
Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers


Marvel version (so kids would understand): Sally's at the beach selling shells and Peter pickles the pepper he picks himself.

Prose and poetry ... not for you.

Marvel doesn't do artsy style (almost Tarantino-esque) ... it confuses un-observant kids.
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>>81186886
Wrong.
Kinography is art.
Capeshit will never be art.
In fact, probably no blockbuster ever will be.
It's mostly films very little people know about.
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>>81186467
>>>/tv/
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>>81188987
Why is she so qt.
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>>81186766
Agreed, but Spidey may boost the opening weekend.
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>>81193772
To eleboarate, according to that /tv/ chart, a kinograph is a film created without cameras. Painitng on film strips and shit. There can be no capekino, that would be weird.

Pretty sure the capekino term was purely ironic before fuckboys started taking it seriously.
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>>81194448
No, kinography is a movie that is filmed purely with artistic purposes in thought.
You know, like a painting, it doesn't have to make sense.
I mean, you could shit in a plastic bag and someone, somewhere, will consider it art.
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>>81186801
Another autistic meme from the actual reddit board
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>>81193662
Just cause something has plot holes all over the place doesnt make it prose.
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>>81186872
I don't get this whole Kino shitty meme. Could someone care enough to explain?
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>>81186416

At this point all I can think of is "It can't be more of a disappointment than Batman v. Superman"

Jesus christ.
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>>81188340
>The Russos said the ending doesn't have a BvS team-up to fight a bigger threat
Sauce? Didn't know that.
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>>81196706
Let's hope WB dumps Snyder after this.
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>>81189334
Wanda's powers are tied to her emotions and the Russo's have said we see how people react to the Avengers.

I think people's fear of her depresses her and weakens her powers so she's not able to stop CB's boom-boom.
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>>81189117
No one has figured yet that her powers are connected to her emotions.

Ironically, Cap's approach to training her will be vindicated.
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It'll be fine.
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>>81188987
They are her surrogate family within the Avengers. Hawkeye, Captain America, Falcon, and Antman are
her dads and bros.

Thankfully Widow seems to not be part of that family. They only have one scene together according to the Russos.
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>>81197179
Will chris posting ever stop? I hope not cause its the only meme i actually love. That laugh is so perfect
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Kinda glad BvS fell over because as watching the trailers for the first time I thought "Oh god how is Civil War gunna beat this?".
Thankfully BvS made me more hyped for CW.
My theater was the loudest when the CW trailer played
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>>81191280
>Worse than Toby Maguire
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>>81198019
>My theater was the loudest when the CW trailer played

People actually cheer for trailers? Where do you live?
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>>81198019
I hate company wars. But how the hell does WBs allow CW trailer to play before their movie? They sunk so much money into this and then let a trailer beat them?
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>>81198066
Bumfuck Arizona
everything is exciting for us
Our biggest attractions are rocks and holes
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>>81198066
Not that anon but here in canada if its a highly anticipated movie they do. Deadpool got it, star wars got it
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>>81199220
Absolute based
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>>81199220
S L U T
L
U
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>>81199220
>You'll never get 'mired this hard
Is it just so much to ask for a body so sexy that some of the most attractive women in the western world become lizard brained idiots?
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Baron Zemo to be based
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>>81201200
Gotta work for that.
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>>81201267
But working hard is hard.
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>>81186791
Third time's the charm?
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>>81199220
haha that's cute I like this
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>>81201332
I know.
Baby steps though.
Work a bit more and more into your routine.
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>>81186634
>Hating BvS means you think only Marvel Studios movies can be good
Fucking everyone hates BvS. Take your console wars bullshit out back and shoot it in the head.
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>>81193802
> Ethereal
> Vulnerable
> Warm
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>>81199220
Evans looks so young there.
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>>81203395
Nubile is the word you are going for. Usually used for young women but this fits the bill
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>>81186480
>just like BvS
Almost no one defend it.
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>>81186416
>Winter Solider was the best movie in the MCU
>trailers look like its focused on Cap even with all the other characters
Yeah, I'm pretty confident it'll be around a 8/10.
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>>81186416

I expect at the very least it will get more than a 30% on Rottentomatoes

Audience score will be 80+
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>>81186656
>snydershills are still pretending no one cares about CW
lmao
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>>81186791
>Whedon

Whedon was never considered a good director, don't even kid
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>>81186416
I hope it's good, I would like it to be less serious than Winter Soldier but the trailers aren't giving me much hope.
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>>81189190
Its more like:
CapDad - Mentor
HawkDad - Best friend
Falcbro - Black bro
Antbro - Funny bro
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>>81186416
It'll be good if RDJ doesn't ruin the script with his bullshit, because they literally let him blow in and change everything so he could get a huge bonus check on name recognition alone.

I'm slightly worried about Zemo sucking like Strucker too. Pretty baffled they were so scared of the sock mask that they evidently rewrote his entire character, using only the name. I mean this is the same studio that released a movie about ANTS to wide success. What is it about Zemo that's too bizarre for this audience?
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>>81189334
> yfw Scarlet Witch not being able to stop Crossbones is like Kiki not being able to fly in Kiki's Delivery Service.
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>>81204016
Maybe they were worried it would look too much like deadpool
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The bar is so low after BvS that Disney could shit out a totally average Marvel flick and critics would cum all over themselves as it cleansed their pallets of Snydershit

I'm gonna say very high chance of 90%+ on RT, whether or not it deserves it
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>>81203841
/co/ loved him until he made a tweet supporting Anita.
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>>81191647
Are they ever going to explain what the red star on the shoulder is all about? Hydra's been the one using him to do assasinations, when has he ever worked for the Soviet Union? Also, is he Cap lite? Apparently Zola experimented on him and the other prisoners, so that he became something that could survive a huge fall. Are there others like Bucky too?

>>81199220
Evans will never not be my hero, seriously.
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>>81204410

people liked aspects of the movie but they always shit on Whedon and his direction
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>>81204672
When Whedon leaves the quipping at the door and steps out of his comfort zone, he can write really well.
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I actually think Spiderman will be well implemented, he ties up pretty well with Tony's development. My bigger worry is Black Panther, who seems to be around just to beat up people and make people know Marvel has a black hero other than Tony's sidekick.
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Why the fuck do people think Director=Writer? The Russos did not write Civil War, they have nothing to do with the quality of the film's writing, so why do people keep acting like they have this huge effect on the film? Whedon did because he was director and screenwriter, but Civil War was written by the McFeelys, not Russos.
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>>81204016
>Pretty baffled they were so scared of the sock mask that they evidently rewrote his entire character, using only the name.
No one said this. One article said he wont have the mask and another quote said he's be very different than the comics version. I'm really just hoping it's not another Mandarin situation. I would wager he may not be so much a nazi scientist as a saboteur who is going to fuck over Cap. My fingers are crossed that he'll have certain personality traits that make 616 Zemo likable.
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>>81207990
It's just that the director is the one responsible for actually telling the story, even if it was written by other people. Bad direction can ruin a good script.
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>>81193802

shes got everything, i tell ya
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