Did you like it?
Actually, yes. I did. Better than Ben 10, easy. (Although, until Omniverse, Ben 10 was pretty good)
>>81181928
I don't know if like it the word I would use to describe my emotions towards it. I didn't look forward to new episodes but when it was on I wouldn't change the channel.
>>81181928
Yeah. Watched it every saturday or whatever.
It had it's meh moments but still the best action cartoon of its time.
>>81182002
>UA > OV
Nigga what you smokin? Lemme have some too.
>>81181928
If it could actually keep a coherent plot I would have.
I enjoyed it and thought it ended really badly because it couldn't sell merchandise.
>>81182037
Ultimate Alien was garbage. The gimmick with the ultimates got old so fast they had to write a shoddy episode about them being sentient. And Vilgax being someone's bitch was just stupid.
It was alright.
>>81182004
This. I've seen a lot of it in bits and pieces but I've never finished the series or bothered to sit down and fill in the gaps. It was entertaining enough I suppose but nothing that I absolutely had to catch every week.
>>81181928
I loved it. Breach top tier waifu.
Yeah. It was a decent show.
>>81182037
I... Forgot about Ultimate Alien. The last series I watched was Alien Force.
>>81181928
I loved the concept but after Six lost his memory it went downhill for me. Also the ending felt stupidly rushed and not satisfying. Him giving up the god nano was retarded and completely unjustifiable.
>>81181928
Never really watched it, but I could appreciate its quality.
>>81181928
I thought this was the guy from Big O at first glance. Too much time on /a/ I guess.
>>81181928
I liked it a lot. It had its flaws but honestly it was a pretty well told story for what it was. Plus Rex's powers are sick as fuck.
>>81181928
it was kinda all over the place. lots of things about it were great, especially in ways that animated shows at the time usually weren't
a TON of things about it were bafflingly stupid. the way his mechanical parts just morphed magically, the stupid cartoon sound effects, the way clothes changed (Except when they didnt)
No. It had an interesting premise, but all the characters were one-dimensional as fuck and nothing interesting ever happened.
It was also really blatantly trying to ape the feel of FLCL.
>>81182122
fuck yeah breach
and grasshopper girl too
>>81182326
dont punish it for trying to imitate something good and doing an admirable job of it
>>81182343
>dont punish it for trying to imitate something good and doing an admirable job of it
It didn't do an admirable job. It did a really really bad job.
>>81181928
yes
Up until six lost his memories.
Holiday for best girl
>>81182462
>>81182317
This
>>81182326
And to a lesser degree this
When it was trying to be its own show it had some okay and even good moments. When it tried too hard to be FLCL and failed it was pretty garbage
>>81182141
He didn't really give it up, more that he told it to go into sleep mode. Odds are, he could probably tap into its power should Caesar help, given his bro had an answer for everyfuckingthing.
>>81182482
Damn, she looks just like Asami in that picture.
>>81182326
The only Fooly Cooly thing about it was the music, beyond that it was very much its own thing.
>>81182548
>>81182462
>>81182482
Holiday was one thing done absolutely right. A great female role model that wasn't a damsel in distress and she was very capable without sacrificing her femininity.
>>81182482
>>81182560
>Rex wanted to tap that
Toppest of tastes. You think maybe if he made some bullshit about sleeping with her would help get his nanites to work better she'd have let allowed it?
I would have like to seen how the world was trying to deal with the shit in Kiev before they just sealed it up in a force field.
>>81182366
what do you expect from the west? we don't have a gainax. and it had more than 6 episodes, so..
>>81182002
>>81182133
How the fuck are you going to say Ben 10 used to be good until OV came when you only watched up to Alien Force?
I bet you're one of those weeb bandwagoners who just dropped Ben 10 entirely because other people did so.
I mean, I don't care if you thought OV was trash or not. At least have your own opinions for once.
>>81182600
Pretty much all of the girls in the show were.
>>81182612
that's one thing that I remember being VERY very inconsistent about the series: just how badly it's being affected
one minute life is normal except for the occasional monster attack, the next there are massive uninhabitable swaths of the earth.
I mean I guess that's realistic actually
>>81182651
I wonder what a handjob from one of her "regular" arms would feel like
>>81182623
the only good ben ten is post-original pre-omniverse
and even that had its ups and downs. but it wasnt embarrassingly stupid and childish at least.
>>81182675
I think the implication was that since Providence got Rex, he helped clean up the situation in the bigger, more important countries, like America and so on. Of course, it's hard to say what areas got affected the worst, since it was only the Bug Jar that got shat on the hardest because it's magnetic crusts or whatever attracted a shitload of nanites.
>>81181928
This show always made me wish there would be a SCP cartoon.
>>81182700
But the original is the best by far. No contradictive bullshit/retcons, and the humor was always balanced and never too over the top (like OV) or painfully forced (like most of AUF).
>>81182675
Well shit just randomly turned into monsters. That one guy was going around with other dudes just killing them whenever they showed up. Those two dudes that didn't make it into Providence made a business out of dealing with Evos that were more pests than threats. It's just with Kiev a large number just turned into evos all at once. They just sealed it up and then it was just out of sight out of mind.
>>81182680
Better than nothing but not that great and unltimately something you could have done yourself.
Like every other hand job EVER if you're over 14 or not having it done in public.
>>81182752
it was always too over the top and completely and utterly forced. you'd have to be a very small child to enjoy it
and while it didnt have any retcons, it also didnt make any goddamn sense to any even halfway serious fan of scifi. it was pretty much solid bullshit
i'm not saying it made any sense to polish that turd, but holy shit did they polish it. coming into alien force felt like finding out that the new MLP was good.
>>81182752
It is.
I mean, why was AUF such a trainwreck? It was like if writers didn't knew how to create a plot with a bit more darker atnosphere without going over the top edgy.
>61 episodes for Rex
>A few hundred for ben 10
Is it worth starting from scratch with both shows?
>>81182747
The fuck is SCP?
>>81182838
Where? The humor wasn't nearly as forced or over the top like the later series where they made Ben stupid because "that's what Ben always has been".
First series, his stupidity and comedy was expected because he was a literal kid, whereas AF post-Highbreed made him go full retard because "muh hero of the universe", and then OV had some mandate that for every episode where Ben was reasonably competent, he had 2 episodes following where he'd be completely retarded because "that wacky goofball Ben!"
And why would it need to be serious for sci-fi fans? It was made for kids in general, so the need for hard-science was kind of moot.
>>81182844
the fuck is AUF?
>>81182917
How the fuck did this get past the censors?
>>81182888
It's like half-decent collection of creepypastas about a government-ran facility containing spooky /x/ stuff.
>>81182903
i havent seen anything from omniverse on, but yeah the previous good era did have some bad times. it was confusing.. but wasn't that because of you? trying to please fans of the original that wanted him to be a retarded knuckleheaded kid again
i'm not saying hard science, just scifi. like shit that makes any goddamn sense and isnt goofy. they did amazing things with that in the good era. the show started to feel like some kind of mix of doctor who and half-life (with ample references to both).
>>81182947
Easily. It suggested without showing, and was over pretty quickly
always confused me how bobo had human feet and a dog nose. what the shit was he?
>>81182616
We have Titmouse.
>>81182700
>>81182752
Look, I really like OV (mostly for character design and combining the canons of OS and UAF) but even I admit the original probably beats it out.
OV's art style took a bit to get used to, but the love and effort put into the designs shows- from combining the best parts of OS and UAF designs to create something that was objectively the best. Sure, Gwen and Kevin looked weird, but we also got alien forms with proper clothes and background characters/races with actual designs and not just copy-pasted shit. (Citizens of Anur Transyl, Tetramands, Galvans, Galvanic Mechamorphs, those two Appolexians, the Kra'aho, that cave woman Vaxxasaurian, everything with Ben 23 and Mad Ben, even freaking turning Pesky Dust and The Worst into more than one-off gags with actual use.
>>81182852
For Rex, sure.
As for Ben, kind of up to you. The original series is worth a full watch, along with the movies (both the first animated one, and the CG one). After that, kind of up to your discretion. AF had an interesting beginning premise; being darker than the first ever had been, but kind of throws that out the window with many inconsistencies (such as Ben taking damage in Alien form, and WHY it even happened). Not to mention the highly debatable retcons it made. UA's gimmick was just stupid, and thankfully abandoned fairly early on, but if you couldn't stand most of AF, then you probably won't even want to both with UA.
As for OV, it's the most mixed bag of them all. It does a fairly good job at emulating a brighter style reminiscent of the original series, but it becomes all too apparent too early on that the CN and Wyatt were sucking on OS' cock like it was going out of style, with its retcons and changes being probably the most contested because of how it almost removes UAF from existence beyond core elements (like Kevin becoming good and hooking up with Gwen, Plumbers being the MiB of the universe).
>>81182953
Eh, they never really did anything good in any of the shows. It was always kiddie science shit. First series at least had some grounded sense with the watch sort of "morphing" the user into an alien, then the later series tried to juggle the whole "he does sort of become a sort of empty shell alien who isn't alive or dead or whatever".
Shit really wasn't ever that consistent, sadly. In any of the series.
>>81182953
You know, the whole High-Breed thing with AF was real nice. Except for Kevin and Gwen somehow dating within 2 episodes, the arc wasn't too bad.
But with the later seasons of Alien Force and entire run of the Ultimate Alien, it was painfully obvious that CN haven't put an ounce of effort into them.
I mean, I can respect you for wanting more mature Ben 10 series, but can you take a show that blatantly rips off Digimon with the lazy alien evolution gimmick as seriously?
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>>81182651
My Black E.V.O.
>>81183010
Never said that OV was bad, but you can't deny that when they wrote Ben as a retard for whichever episode he was a retard, they really didn't pull any punches. It's like whoever was told to write Ben as an idiot was told "Make him like an idiot teenager, but WAY more stupid than natural".
>>81183104
Breach really was best girl.
>>81183100
Not that guy, but I do think the Ultimate forms could have worked with a better reasoning (supercharging the DNA rather than "these are the forms after 2 billions of war), and making it that the forms are more limited in time usage so Ben could only assume them for a brief time before reverting.
Also, none of that random sentience thing, that was just pointless since it begins and ends in the same episode.
>>81183034
I remember I stopped watching UA a season in because some of the bullshit like Agreggor being nothing and all that Knight bullshit.
OV gave us actual names for Benmummy, Benwolf, and Benvicktor (being Snare-oh, Blitzwolfer, and Frankenstrike) and had some really great episodes including everything with Mad Ben, the entire Halloween arc, that episode where Kevin and Rook bond at a car auction, the one where the Appolexians and Marshmellow people sign a treaty, Malware, etc etc etc.
>>81183179
The Ultimate forms were a retarded idea because Ben never had any reason to not use them, and with the exception of Swampfire they all had shittier designs.
>>81183137
Would Breach let you breach her ass? This is important for the scientific community.
>>81183010
Agreed.
Say what you want about OV, but you can't deny that the aliens had way more effort put into them compared to the entirety of UAF.
Eatle and Andromeda galaxy aliens were literally pulled out of CN's ass for toys and OV managed to make them cool.
>>81181928
Wasn't this done by someone big in cartoons. Was it gennedy tartakovsky...i forget.
Also wasn't this the one that got cancelled because (and i blame the situation for introducing me to this HORRIFYING word) it wasn't TOYETIC enough?
>>81182326
>ape the feel of FLCL.
that makes me wanna kinda check this out
>>81183124
Fair fair, but then again I also mostly watch shows for character design.
And OV having a consistent design and tons of homages and references coupled with Derrick J Wyatt, who also did another of my favorite series Transformers Animated, helps too.
Hell, I like the prequels only for character design and architecture. As actual stories they're crap, but I'm a sucker for design.
>>81183242
Maybe she has a lot of issues. She liked Rex so she trapped him in a pocket dimension so she could keep him forever.
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>>81183242
You not are Rex.
>>81183205
I liked OV's Swampfire, but for whatever the reason is he's turned into an 80's Pop singer with the Galactic Monsters arc.
>>81183137
Fuck yeah, she was. To this day I seriously cannot comprehend why they made that screaming stretch-mouth bitch Rex's love interest instead of Breach.
Breach is hotter, more interesting, had a better dynamic with Rex, a cooler power set, better personality. Plus, she was voiced by Hynden Walch, which is always good.
>>81183334
>>81183255
No. That was Sym-Bionic-Titan, which came out at the same time.
This show was made by the same people behind Ben 10 and the current Marvel cartoons, was extremely toyetic from day one, and got a fairly lengthy run with an actual ending.
>>81183201
Yeah. One of my favorite things about OV is that contrary to AUF, just about all of the episodes are canon and aren't irrelevant one-shots.
I could really feel Ben being mature than usual with the Mad Ben episodes, which was pretty confusing but cool considering how irresponsible he was.
>>81183390
Ugh, yeah. That's her. Circe. Literally every time she's onscreen she just sucks the awesome out of the scene and then shits disappointment all over the place.
>>81183347
>>81183442
He sure did have some options.
>>81183508
>And then there's this asshole.
>>81183321
I think that was handwaved as reaching maturity/mating season or something. I don't know how plant people fuck.
Man, that whole arc was awesome. Transylians, Ectonurites, Thep Khufans, and Loboans of every size, shape, age, color, and gender. Hell, the fact that Scout and Crujo were the same species was amazing and really showed the range DJW was capable of.
>>81183508
Yeah, cricketbitch was pretty good, too. I mean, she was no Breach, but great for a "I'm going to take you out for dim sum then fuck you six times in different back alleys before not talking to you again until the next time I'm in Hong Kong" style girlfriend.
Assuming she has a vagina and not some weird bug genitals.
>>81183640
Bug vagina.
Googling that right now.
>>81183508
Aside from Holiday, and maybe that one soldier chick who he met in the boot camp, Rex was practically swimming in pussy.
>Circe, Cricket, Breach, both of the girls Noah and he hung out with, Holiday's little sis, pretty much any one-off chicks Rex showed off to
Though they pretty much pushed Circe as the endgame, I'm glad it wasn't as hamfisted as Ben and Kai in OV, goddamn was that shit so idiotic.
>>81182917
This always messed me up about the show. People xonsistently died during action scenes unlike other shows where every building the monster topples is empty and everyone avoids death narrowly. Pretty much every other show has city damage be the only casualty.
>>81182317
NANO
MACHINES
SON
>>81182637
>>81182600
Thinking of it MoA or at least Joe Kelly has a good track record on that
>>81183100
y'all are forgetting that Mcduffie literally died in the middle of all of that, which is the main reason the show went to shit
>>81183894
Well no one really cares about mooks.
>>81183290
>>81183309
>you will never be her favorite
>>81184002
True. Though I still place some blame on him for the more bizarre changes (like Gwen being part alien and Kevin just turning good within an hour of meeting with Ben). Granted, I think I had heard something about him not being given time to fully brush up on the original series lore, which is why so many things were different. Meaning that was he wasn't so much as retconning things, but filling spots he didn't know were already filled. Though I could be mistaken, since the information concerning what went on behind the scenes had always been kind of kept quiet. It wasn't until Wyatt came along that we got someone on the series who would divulge any details asked of him, where he could answer them, of course.
>>81184268
>>81184277
Mcduffie would talk about some of the stuff, he just did it on the forum on his website, it was before twitter took off. I browsed there as my training wheels for 4chan.
>>81184335
Still never got why she saved Van Kleiss, Biowulf, and Skalamander. It seemed hard to imagine she forgave the former for turning her into a sort of temporal bomb.
>>81184515
Other than Rex the Pack is probably the closest thing she has to friends.
So is she dead or what?
Its been awhile since I've seen the episode
>>81184554
Maybe Biowulf and Skalamander, but Van Kleiss had caused her a lot of pain, I doubt she'd be so forgiving.
>>81184685
Nope, she lived. Not too long into the final season, they show flashbacks of Van Kleiss winding up in Egypt, then using a machine to send himself forward in time to escape an anomaly, but only as far as the Roman Empire. He's then shown jumping forward, while Rex and Bobo are finding clues about Van Kleiss before finally tracking down his machine.
Turns out, Van Kleiss has just been putting himself into a sort of deep sleep, barely keeping his mind intact because he was never really moving through time and space, just waiting shit out. And the anomaly is Breach, who turned into a weird wormhole after the device broke in season 2.
>>81181928
One of my favorite /co/ shows actually. Good stuff all around with some pretty high highpoints.
>>81182917
Really makes you wonder how much they get paid to work for providence.
>>81185399
I think they were suppose to get payed pretty well.
>>81181928
I enjoyed it well enough but it was missing something, like the writing and characterization wasn't -quite- there.It also helped that Rex and Van Kleiss were hot.
>>81183393
>Toyetic as fuck
>License given to Mattel
It was almost nothing but disappointment.
>>81185571
You misspelledBreach
>>81183640
>>81183715
Don't hate on the ovipositor, friends.
>>81185784
Her also. And Holliday.
This show delivered on all fronts.
>>81186096
I'll never understand how or why they got Michael Emerson to be Alpha. I mean he was great at it but he was already a star of two hit tv shows by that point.
