What went wrong?
>>81169563
Nick
Letting Bryke write it themselves.
>>81169619
Bryke pls go.
>>81169563
The George Lucas Effect
The guys who were technically the creators pushed out the other creative voices that helped make the original great.
To be fair to Brye, Nick's wishy-washy dealings with the show certainly contributed to the second season being such a fucking disaster (minus the Wan episodes).
The first and fourth seasons have good ideas hindered by bad execution on Bryke's part.
Season 3 managed to be pretty great, at least.
The comics will probably be pretty shitty.
It wasn'ta porn cartoon
>>81169563
Terrible writing.
>>81169563
I'm pumped for Voltron
>same designers, directors, and animators
>non-Bryke writers
>Netflix so it won't go through network bullshit
>>81170221
that and the voice cast.
>>81169563
nothing
she is perfect fapbait, which is all that matters in cartoons
>>81169563
The plot of the game didn't make sense.
In two weeks Korra never actively participated in attempting to fix the spirit problem.
She constantly questioned her decision to leave the portals open (as though that would cause the spirits to disappear/the vines to retreat.)
Jinora could locate Korra from the South Pole outside of Harmonic Convergence but couldn't do so in Books 3 or 4.
Korra lost her powers but got them back by interacting with the environment and not just turning on the Avatar State like she did before.
Mako is acting okay rather than this standoffish self from 3.
The Equalists are still in their battle gear and weapons and are working with bending gang members.
Tenzin takes his family back to Republic City then back to the South Pole to visit Katara then back to Republic City in the span of those two weeks.
The boss has "dark" powers despite not having a spirit fused to him.
The boss has another body attached to him for no reason.
The boss had mind dream powers for no reason.
Water attacks don't need a source.
Korra's punches could break apart a platinum mech but couldn't get her out of other situations in the show.
Korra's giant cosmic spirit form wasn't its established size.
They're having a fundraiser using probending to help contribute money towards repairing the city while not addressing the problem itself.
The final Naga running section on Hard difficulty is merciless.
Jinora had to be our "Navi" rather than meditating and speaking to Raava which would make more sense.
I think I'm missing something but that's what I remember about the initially $15 Platinum game.
>>81169917
agreed. I'll add that a lot of the pitfalls of the last season especially could have been easily avoided. Specifically how they tried to frame Kuvira as a villain, but every villainous thing she did is conveyed to the audience as hearsay and anyone with half a brain working off of what is actually shown would root for her given the circumstances. And then it just gets stupider from there
>>81169563
Short version
1) Letting Bryke work solo for the first two seasons
2) Nick forcing short seasons with basically no plot overlap
The single biggest thing ATLA benefits from is its planning - you had a lot of different writers and artists working together for years on developing a big, elaborate series with tons of character development and subplots and shit.
Almost all of Korra's weaknesses stem from the series' overall lack of planning and development. There's no singular threat, no recurring antagonists or subplots, there's no room for filler episodes to just let the characters grow, interact, and develop, etc.
>>81169563
They continued after Season 1.
Season 1 was a really nice tribute and nostalgia trip for Avatar fans.
>we got to see the world the got built after the series ended
>we got to see the offspring of Aang and Katara
>we got the perfect female protagonist that was both strong and sexy(she appealed to everyone, including horny virgins and SJWs). This was proof at the time that a female protagonist is possible to both crowds.
>nice story for a miniseries
>good male side protagonist
>well written
The Season 2-4 poisoning
>Korra became a bitch, a horrible Avatar, and an individual
>Mako became a dick in season 2 but manage to fix him in 3
>the plot became a mess
>started to affect and destroy ATLA lore
>people were starting to hate the show but virgins loved Korrasami porn and Tumblr loved Korrasami for retarded progressivism so the hack writers(Bryke) did a last minute make crack ship canon to blind people of the past mistakes they made and sadly worked for most fans
>the hack writers never considered how Mako would realistically take this. A guy like Mako would either become furious with rage or become an achololic for being cucked by the 2 loves of his life.
>This is like 1910-1920s, Bryke is not even being realistic by ignoring how people at that time would shun Korra and find her a horrible Avatar for being a faggot
>>81169563
not enough Korra feet
>>81169563
it was just too rushed. may have been problems with Nick (not knowing if they were getting a second series, etc.) but I don't care for that as an excuse, it was still shit.
People liked AtLA because of its slow, careful development of a single story, with lots of side-plots that led back to the main plot nicely. Character development arcs were thoughtfully embedded in the wider narrative. When it came to the final Aang vs. Ozai battle, it was so epic because we had been waiting for that since day 1.
Because LoK was rushed, there was no real development of main characters (other than boring and poorly explained power upgrades) or villains, and the plot quickly became "Villain-of-the-week" style, with no real stakes.
I think things could have been genuinely good if they had spent 3 series developing the Amon/Equalizers plot. It was a good story that deserved being more fully developed, but instead they had to wrap it up in an episode - Amon goes from god-tier villain to sad-sideshow-act in 20 minutes, and it's all over. The worst part was that they never even addressed the root-issue behind the equalizer's movement - instead, apparently everyone just decides "well, Amon was wearing makeup so I guess we don't need civil equality anymore."
Guy who just finished it here.
I honestly think it doesn't deserve the terrible rep it's gained here.
While I've got to agree that team avatar here was far weaker in terms of development compared to tla, the world and side characters more than make up for it.
There's certainly issues with rushing, probably equally due to the studio and nick, which means a God tier villain like Zaheer doesn't gain the depth he deserved and characters like Bumi almost disappear true.
Also people who take the writer's personal opinion on the ending as fact whether it's pandering or not need to chill.
But it's still an enjoyable experience that that I happily immersed myself in.Also the porn.
>>81169917
>minus the Wan episodes
Finally somebody with good taste, Wan episodes were the best of all episodes
>>81172783
I mean, it's not like anybody's saying it's the worst western cartoon ever produced, but it's frustrating because it could have been so much better, and it followed the perfection that was AtLA
>>81171631
Season 1 wasted so much time with pro-bending, which added almost nothing to the plot and made for mostly uninteresting action (by design!)
>>81171566
>There's no singular threat, no recurring antagonists or subplots, there's no room for filler episodes to just let the characters grow, interact, and develop, etc.
The lack of filler and the lack of a recurring group of antagonists are probably the show's biggest weaknesses.
LoK would have benefited greatly from having an organization like The Equalists or The Red Lotus working against her the whole way through like what The Fire Nation provided for Aang's group in ATLA... maybe even merge them into one group and work with the idea of having some group bent on bringing down the Avatar and sowing disharmony between the allied nations and then revealing Amon and the Equalist cult as the masterminds behind the group later in the show as the end boss threat.
You could still have multiple figureheads standing in to oppose Korra on behalf of the group (Zaheer's crew, Unalaq, etc) but you really benefit a lot from having a singular organization to identify as the main obstacle for the protagonists.
>>81169830
>Letting Bryke write it themselves.
yes
>>81170000
>It wasn't a porn cartoon
Also this.
No overarching planning across seasons. Korra's story was about a dumb meat head who had been trained to be the avatar her whole life to the point where it had become her whole identity. Her character development was supposed to teach her patience and that not every problem needs to be punched, later on teach her that her role as avatar is not the most important thing in the world and to come to terms with a world that doesn't need an avatar. She comes off as unnecessarily thick headed because they hadn't planned for several seasons and had no idea what to do with the character other than the "learn patience" arch so they just reverted her back to meathead with the start of almost every season.
>>81173059
That seemed to be what they were doing what with having Unalaq using the Red Lotus as a means to an end and having Zaheer espousing their philosophy which doesn't make sense in the first place. Amon could have been an advance agent they sent in who showed amazing promise but ended up liking power a bit too much so he ditched them and used the people to his advantage.
Having Kuvira still fighting the Red Lotus and going crazy from it plus maybe picking up a few bad apples in her army that just want to hurt people and feeling like she can't trust anybody would make her into some anti-hero who goes too far once she realizes she can harness that energy.
>>81172947
>I mean, it's not like anybody's saying it's the worst western cartoon ever produced,
Bad cartoons don't try. LoK tried and failed. It failed so much that it hurts. It had chances and it squandered them. Sure it had Nick pushing them around and dictating things but Bryke still messed up Season 1 all on their own.
