Is that Tim?
>>81136501
No stupid...thats batman.
>>81136501
Tim Drake, Stephanie Brown, Cassandra Cain and Clayface will be on a team lead by Batman and Batwoman.
Detective Comics will revert to its old numbering.
>named Red Robin
>predominantly green costume
Good job, Tim
>>81136501
>Tynion and 90's trash containment.
This pleases me
Batwoman better still be dealing with Gotham's fantasy side.
>>81136501
Unfortunately yes, Tim hasn't been removed from the universe yet.
>No wings
So hes more redundant the ever.
>>81140975
thank god he lost the wings, he should have went back to this outfit instead of his 90s outfit
>>81141302
I'll never get the hate for the wings, dose letting him fly make him to big for the streets or something
>>81141414
it's just not an attractive design
>>81136501
There are two R's on his chest, so yes.
Why they don't make the green parts black, I don't know.
My question is why is every Robin costume better than Dick's?
>>81142263
You don't like the leotard?
Wait Clayface is a good guy now?
>>81142334
I don't like the crotch arrow, lack of belt, random lines, scallops on his boots, and the fact that there are five colors on it
So what's happening with Harper then? Is she just being thrown away already?I hope so, I really like her and i'd rather they drop her than ruin her
>>81136572
>Clayface will be on tbe team
Wait...what? Is....is this going to be this when Sandman was an Avenger!? I might have ro fucking pick this up, in the first wave of 52 runs his story in detective comics with Ivy was fucking amazing.
>>81142619
Tynion said more people will show up
It's basically a batfamily book
>Not going back to his Red Robin cowl or the Undernet design
Fuck everyone
>all these niggas who forgot clayface is friends with kate and living in sin with ragman
>>81142619
As if fan favorite Harper would get shelved. Tynion likes her and will probably bring her in at some point.
>>81143575
>Forgetting Ragman
>>81143575
When did that happen?
>>81143257
This is actually following from the last arc of the Batwoman solo, where she led a team with her sister, Clayface, Etrigan, and Ragman.
It was not nearly as rad as it should have been.
>>81143575
Andreyko's Batwoman.
If only he dropped the vampire shit and went full-on Batwoman and Her Magical Hobo Friends. If only.
>>81143809
>If only he dropped the vampire shit and went full-on Batwoman and Her Magical Hobo Friends.
I'm still hoping for Batwoman, the Batfamily, and their Magical Hobo Friends.
>>81143793
How could you fuck up such an awesome sounding team? Is half of each issue dominated by Bat woman's gayness or something?
>>81150161
Sort of, in that she kept getting raped by a vampire lady and then when people called out the writer on how gross and also uninteresting that was he devoted EVEN MORE time to that nonsense drama to defend it as totally not rape don't worry guys.
>>81150249
What the fuck? What the abstract fuck? I mean, I could get behind a little bit of that, but fuck, Suicide Squad a ton of shit plots but actually have each character a little bit of the fucking lime light (when it wasn't time for a Batman event, in which case Harley stole the show)
>>81150357
dont worry, she can be "notraped" by a vampire for only about 8 issues, and then it ends!
its not like thats an important plot point when they're space faring, dimension hopping, time traveling or whatever they were doing
>>81143257
Something happened to Clayface, forgot what, and he became good. Last time I saw him, he was living with Ragman.
Clayface's highlight was morphing to be fan and Batwoman telling him not to stare at her boobs at which he replied "if I want to see nice boobs, I'll make pair of them on me".
>>81150799
>>81150970
What the fuck is the run called and why the fuck have I not read this?I think I know exactly why
>>81151158
It's like the last two trades worth of the new 52 Batwoman series starting at issue #25 or so. Most of us dropped it like it was hot when the creative team switch happened, but a few of us masochists stayed around to watch it burn.
>>81151158
other than clayface (which was literally the only highlight imo)and more alice since she does things to my diki would just say read her detective comics run if you want "batwoman being friends with spoopy people"
the drop it like it was hot like >>81151203 said is completely accurate, and it happend because editorial didn't want batwoman married, so i guess they decided "man, lets just have her raped instead"
even the splash pages went down in quality, and that was 60% of batwoman pages
>>81151453
well yeah, the artist changed
ain't nobody does a splash page like JH Williams
>>81136501
>still Red Robin
wears 70% green
also Batman's purple cape has got to go
>>81151453
To be honest, I don't really care about Batwoman, but I'm a sucker for a story about a villain, or a reforming villain, and I always felt Clayface was pretty underused in comics, so I'm pretty hyped to hear about this, hoping it's worth the read.
>>81151562
I think it could work in the right story with the right artist, but man none of the announced books fill me with confidence.
Tim Drake, the Justin Bieber of DC.
>>81151666
>Satan rooting for villains
you want to give it a break it's Easter.
I agree tho Batwoman is the weakest part of this book, her character isn't really suited for team shenanigans, she seems to be there to be leader when continuity calls Batman away to another book.
>>81151767
Yeah nothing I've read of Batwoman suggests to me that she'll be interesting as a mentor for these kids. It's a little silly because we just had an amazing run on Catwoman where she played mentor to Steph and it worked.
>>81151767
>you want to give it a break it's Easter.
No. We have to work down here today. I will bookmark this title for later rto read, you said the last two trades? How many did she have?
>>81150970
Hah, based Clay.
>>81151824
5 or 6 in the New 52 I think? They're the ones without JH Williams
>>81151824
The two you want are vol 5 Webs and vol 6 The Unknowns
Tim Drake He Embodies the Rage of the White Middle Class––“
>>81136501
So wait, which Clayface is this supposed to be?
>>81151891
>Tim
>Middle Class
Fool, Tim Drake is Patrician as Fuck. Motherfucker was Bruce Wayne's fucking neighbour.
>>81152092
>So wait, which Clayface is this supposed to be?
Basil Karlo.
>>81141302
Honestly, I eventually warmed to the Red Robin suitEven though it was basically identical to Doctor MidniteSo I'd have not minded that, or this Marcus To design from when he went all Tron of the Unternet.
Going back to his original suit just makes him look like Robin, without reverting his name along with it.
>>81152092
White pride Robin Trump Loves him.
And a White Dude is Robin ; .
>>81152223
No, he's Red Robin.
Dick and Damian ?
>>81152092
URG .. now i hate Tim.
>>81152153
Yeah I gotta agree with this
>>81152284
Because I reminded you that he lived close enough to Wayne Manor that he could have a secret tunnel connecting the two houses?
>>81136501
FIVE WHITE PEOPLE AND A POC.where is dick and damian ?
Duke is Robin ?
>>81152441
DC :)
>>81136501
I really hope Damian has a significant role in
DEK:
>>81152441
not relegated to Team D-List
>>81142619
People like Harper? Really?
What's cool about her?
>>81152592
her hero name is pretty cool, I guess
>>81136501
>Steph and Cass finally on a team
>it's this shit
monkey's paw
>>81142619
A character in blue and black was said to die
>>81152441
Damian and Dick are not POC
>>81152711
>Arab
>Gypsy
>not PoC
>>81152711
Damian and Dick are POC.
Dick that people forget he's Romanian and not white, Damian is not white.
>>81152441
Are you calling Clayface "white"?
>>81152711
POC that DC whitewashes on a regular basis
Damian Wayne
Rose Wilson
Talia Al’Ghul
Connor Hawke
Vixen
Jenny Quantum
Empress
Dick Grayson
Cassandra Cain
Lady Shiva
Cheshire
Dick fucking Grayson and Damian Wayne. Holy fuck, like, if you didn’t know their backstories and just skimmed through all their appearances, you’d assume they were both white without a second thought. Have they everlooked anything but white?
>>81152818
>Rose Wilson
What is her color?
>>81152818
Wait Empress still exists?
>>81142619
You're the Harper Row fan? I feel like I've seen a unicorn.
>i'd rather they drop her than ruin her
A little late for that.
Dick and Damian, POC through and through.
>>81151203
Andreyko's plots actually started out pretty fine, he wrote a solid Kate and some decently paced out stuff, but man did the Morgan LeFay stuff just get dragged down by the vampire plot, it was really tragic. Until that it had some genuine promise, but man, not even the injection of a great ensemble saved it.
damian and dick. hfff my cute poc robins ”
>>81151767
>Batwoman is the weakest part of this book
I hope there is tension between Kate and Bruce over how much she can creep on Cass and Steph.
Also, thank God that Tim is away from the Titans, even if I don't have confidence in this writing team. Any step away from that cesspool is a step in the right direction.
>>81152920
rape joke cass is 15 kate is 30
>>81152788
>Dick that people forget he's Romanian
You mean "Romani"?
>>81152774
>quarter arab
>half white
Yeah lets calling him Arab makes more sense than calling him white.
>>81152936
>cass is 15 kate is 30
Yes, and what is your point?
>>81152774
Dick is not a gypsy. The crazy woman's retcon does not count.
>>81152953
still not full white.
>>81152969
Dick a gypsy --
James Tynion NOOO
>>81152833
>>81152818
>>81152788
Dick is white. When he was created he was white, and he is still white. The Romani shit was a retcon done somewhere around 2000. And that too only from someone from his father's side. So he's at most 25% romani. But the universe was rebooted and with that the retcon gone. Dick is back to beign 100% white.
Damian is half white, a quarter arab, and a quarter chinese. You could say he's a "poc" if ou want and complain about him being "whitewashed" but all three of those races have fair skin and him appearing white doesn't seem too odd.
>>81153024
so Just Damian is a Poc Robin ? the other robin are white bread ?
>>81152988
>>81153024
Romani retcon was done around 2000, by Devin Grayson (legally changed her name). Her run is infamous, most notably for have Dick get raped. She's also a total SJW who's raising her kid to be transgender. (Seriously. Look at her Twitter.)
>>81153024
Isn't Talia half-white also? Damian would be 3/4 white and 18/ Arabic and 1/8 Chinese.
>>81154196
Fucking commie Arabs.
>>81154196
>>81153024
I have a cousin who's a ginger: red hair, pale, freckles, blue eyes.
My uncle is Mexican and so is my aunt. Uncle is whiteish looking mexican: dark hair, brown eyes, can tan. Aunt is pale white, blonde, and blue eyed.
Aunt's mom was Mexican: pale white, blue eyed, dark haired. Aunt's dad was chinese: jackie chan.
How do genetics work?
>>81154196
Talia can;t be half white. Ra's is fully arab. The chinese ancestry is from her mother's side.
>>81154217
Scott ?
>>81151516
amen to that
>>81152788
"Romanian and not white" lmao, keep telling urself that
>>81152953
you can't math with these people, that's triggering
>>81152969
exactly, Devin Grayson's run has been neatly delegated back to the trash-heap where she presumably lives
>>81136801
While you are 100 percent in assuming that, the premise (Batman and Batwoman train the next generatiom of Gotham crimefighters) entices the holy hell out of me.
.ffangirls-.I really don't know why they like Tim so much...
>>81154631
I hope Kate tries one of those bootcamp scenes where she gets Tim and Steph to attack her, and she plants them on her ass. Then she either gets bodied by Cass in an instant because Kate did not know with whom she was messing, or she passes up Cass completely because she does know.
Also, Steph, Cass, and Tim going to a fancy restaurant together for the purposes of following a target.
>>81155618
urgggggggggg nooo
I see two Rs on his costume, but why use the name Red Robin when it has so much green?
ah, time to cancel any remaining DC books from the pull file. This is garbage.
>>81155688
He is Red Robin and Damian is robin-
>>81151562
>also Batman's purple cape has got to go
You bastard don't you touch it.
>>81151562
Name incongruity aside, it's way better than his Nu52 costume.
>Tynion
It's going to be shit, right?
DC You brought a sense of diversity that could only increase going forward – except Rebirth came along and it feels like everything has taken a step back.
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/03/27/dcrebirth-rolling-back-on-lgbtq-representation/
bleeding cool says it has no diversity:
>>81156538
This! Tynion writes what scott says .
where is Damian ;Dick AND Jason ?
>>81156614
I want Damian in this book..
The white washed version of Robin is back :D
>>81156614
>>81156693
Damian is in Teen Titans and Supers Sons
Dick is in Titans and Nightwing
Jason is in Red Hood and the Outlaws
>>81143575
>living in sin with Ragman
Clayface is gay?
Like Gayface?
>>81156852
Jason is in Red Hood and the Outlaws
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
Dick is in Titans and Nightwing
GOOD ..
Damian is in Teen Titans and Supers Sons
he belongs to his father in thew batbooks.
>>81136501
Who's the ninja at the bottom right?
>>81157017
cass caine
Well, this book looks fun as fuck.
>>81157048
No bat ears, no cape, no boobs. Are you sure?
>Tim over Duke
The social justice tears will be delicious.
>>81157071
Yep, the gimp mask is the give away
>>81157092
Tim is Red Robin look at his logo. Buuuut Damian is still Robin.
Duke's new identity is unknown currently
>>81157119
>Duke's new identity is unknown currently
Batman 2.
>>81136501
Why tf does Batman have 4 pecs?
Have the animators never taken an anatomy class?
>>81157284
or maybe his pecs are blocking the last two retard
>>81152839
Rose's mom was like, south east asian or something.
Does anyone else absolutely hate the Red Robin name?
>>81156614
I like how the writer is getting BTFO by the comments. Anyway, I'm sad about what happened to DCYou too, but looking at the sales, you really can't blame DC.
>>81157909
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7FGjZe7AcI
>>81157284
The "bottom" pecs are his rib cage.
Also,
>animators
>>81156693
>>81156942
>Oh God... Your back.
Looks like some new characters, but yeah, this is exciting. I was watching a interview Scott Snyder had about all star batman and he mentioned duke thomas and damian wayne play a big part in this book with damian reacting to bruce training duke or something. Should make for some good family drama.
>>81158195
Poc vs POC URGGGGGGGGG Scott Snyder.
>>81158195
Scott Snyder annoys the heck out of me.
>>81157092
Duke is on the cover of Batman.
>>81136572
>Tim Drake, Stephanie Brown, Cassandra Cain and Clayface will be on a team lead by Batman and Batwoman.
>Clayface
Color me intrigued.
>>81152833
Damian's connection to R'as al Ghul gets brought up all the time
>>81136501
Hopefully they'll ignore/retcon Bruce and Kate being first cousins.
>>81163447
why would they? They're not gonna change her being a lesbian so it's not like they're gonna bang
>>81163533
It's just retarded.
It's an insanely contrived coincidence.
Bruce had close family IN THE CITY, but didn't go to them when his parents are murdered.
>>81163687
The Kanes were a military family that bounced around a lot when Kate and Bruce were kids
>>81163758
Still family.
To be fair, it's largely a result of the changes they made to Kate when she took over Detective Comics.
In 52 she was just a socialite from the wealthy Kane family who somehow became Batwoman.
Then they changed her to have a military family and a dead mom, but without actually retconing anything about 52. Her dad then married a rich lady who apparently put her new husband's name on her vague, massive company?
Grant bringing back the original Batwoman sure didn't make it any less silly.
>>81163979
it's also entirely likely that the Waynes made arrangements to make Alfred Bruce's legal guardian in the event of their deaths
