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So they were the blacks right?
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>>81087164
Muslims and blacks mostly
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What if Phox was in Zootopia?
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You could make a case for it. 10% of the pop., feared (fairly or unfairly). yada yada /pol/ that way...
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No. They were predators
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>>81087164
They were the animals that used to murder and eat other animals until they evolved and changed their ways, but we're chained down by others for old, dead ways.
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>>81087164
Something about this lion makes me feel uneasy... and it's not in a sexual way.

The model is just... yuck.
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They were gay people. The feral thing was a euphemism for rape/pedophilia.
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>>81087182
What about Hispanics?
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>>81087208
Don't forget that they were only dangerous because of drugs being (literally) forced on them.
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>>81087286
That'll have to wait for the sequel where they build a wall against Gexico.
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>>81087164
they were animals
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You can't apply it 1:1 to the real world
go back to tumblr
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>>81087275
That would make sense as to why they wouldn't want Clawhauser running the front desk.
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>>81087292
Would you even be surprised if the government was going around sniping minorities with drugs to make them freak out and scare white people just to start a race war?

and how much you want to bet someone out there actually thinks this.
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>>81087164
You're black.
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>>81087367
It's awesome that these characters look great in 2D and 3D
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>>81087364
The drug is called islam.
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>>81087339
>"You think we'd ever trust a [NIGGER]?"
I humbly disagree.
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>>81087164
No they were white and Disney switched the population demographics so they were the minority.

Hence prey living in a culture of imagined victim-hood for past aggression and "only bunnies can call other bunnies cute".
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>>81087452
I was literally about to say this
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>>81087431
And that's where the strap-on came in.
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>>81087275
But predators like Gideon and Clawhauser weren't the only gay characters. Judy's herbivore neighbors were gay too.
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>Post yfw when Disney actually makes Turks into roachs
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Any cute fan art for phone wallpaper?
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>>81087452
I dunno, where does the whole size dynamic thing come in then?

The large prey didn't seem to have much to worry about, but small prey like rabbits do.
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>>81087558
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>>81087164
Nope. Not at all. Why do dumblrinas keep pushing this meme? No group depicted in this movie has a real-world equivalent. Predators Can't be Compared to black people because they are socially dominant, neither can prey because they are a majority.
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>>81087431
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>>81087607
So then are preditors...men?
What was the metaphor here?
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>>81087607
Byron just said that the societal issues of the time were coincidence, they only sought to make the most emotionally gripping story they could.
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>>81087164
The problem with Zootopia's metaphor is the same one that most other sci-fi/fantasy properties have when they try to tackle racism, and that's the fact that if you make the suppressed race an actual, different species, you're kinda missing the point of why racism is bad.
It's like how the people in Skyrim keep the Khajiit out of their cities because they think they're all just thieves, which is obviously supposed to be a bad and racist attitude.
But then you actually play as the Khajiit, and you get a +10 bonus in sneaking, and +5 bonuses in pickpocketing and lockpicking.
It's the same with the X-men too. Not wanting a black person to live in your neighborhood is stupid. Not wanting Cyclops to live in your neighborhood is pretty understandable. Yet the two are equated, like minorities can also burn buildings down with a blink.
The movie was definitely, obviously about racism (hence the racial jokes and the allusions to the crack epidemic), but it doesn't really hold up too well.
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i just like nick
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>>81087558
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>>81087207
>>>/vp/
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>>81087164
Given that they were in charge until the race war started, I don't think they're black so much as white.

>>81087215
>hey were the animals that used to murder and eat other animals until they evolved and changed their ways
Yup, this is how libcucks view whites, and we all know Hollywood is full of liberals.
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>>81087675
>(hence the racial jokes and the allusions to the crack epidemic)
Excuse me?
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>>81087675
>Not wanting Cyclops to live in your neighborhood is pretty understandable.

It's no more unreasonable than knowing your neighbor has a gun. Infact, I'd feel safer for it.
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>>81087675
You forgot to mention 95% of the Khajiit characters in Skyrim literally are, thieves, fences or smugglers.
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>>81087182
They're all these things and more!
Actually, Bellweather's speech is an interesting nod to religion clashes, especially in a country where 70% of people are some flavor of Christian, but still pretend they're an Oppressed Minority.
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>>81087664
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>>81087689
oh no, this is adorable.
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>>81087699
N-no, I want to stay!
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>>81087675
>not wanting Scott Summers to live in your neighborhood

Someone doesn't want to live in the RIGHT neighborhood.
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>>81087720
I'd feel in danger living next to Cyclops, he'd just bring his retarded boohoo errybody hates muties plotlines to your home.

And he dates shitty people like Emma frost, who will mindrape you just because they are feeling bitchy that day.
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>>81087689
i just love finnick
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>>81087667
No, because men aren't a majority or a minority.
>>81087670
This is correct. there movie's theme is literally just "DON'T STEREOTYPE". It does not say what groups should not be stereotyped against, it simply says to judge people as an individual.
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>See film
>Already know spoilers (thanks to some random out-of-context webm posted on /v/)
>Still excited to see film nonetheless
>Sit down in shanty-ass cinema screen
>Surrounded by kids being noisy little shits
>Turn to my brother
>He looks as smug as Nick
>wtfe
>Film starts
>It quiets down for a bit
>During the podium scene 3 different kids start crying
>Parents just sitting there not giving a shit
>Other kids just start yelling and being noisy
>Some even rolling around on the floor
>One kid walks up to the screen and starts hugging it during the Judy crying scene
>Can't take anything on-screen seriously at this point
>Final scene arrives and I already know what shit is going down
>Expect Bellwether to just run away to set up a chase scene
>Just stands there and gets arrested instead
>Film finishes
>Kids still crying
>Mfw

Who else /shitviewing/ here?
I mean, don't get me wrong. I still liked it. I just hope we get a sequel down the line so I can go watch that shit properly. But hot damn my local cinema is something else.
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>>81087164
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKCA_LDOLGo
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>>81087708
>Only a bunny can call another bunny cute!
>The police chief thinks Judy was only allowed on the force due to affirmative action.

For the crack thing, see>>81087292
It's been pretty well documented that the CIA distributed crack in the 80's in poor, predominantly black communities.
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>>81087777
>One kid walks up to the screen and starts hugging it

What the fuck.
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>>81087777
What the fuck, were all of these people black or latino or something? At least some race known to never do anything to control their children?
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>>81087777
>going to see a kids' movie at a time when kids will be there seeing it as well

there's your problem, anon

Gotta go to a 9-10pm showing, guaranteed to be free of screaming kids.
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>>81087773
>Bateman emphasizing the "pawp" in the phrase like he was giving the writers a small fuck you for making him say that
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>>81087696
>saving thumbs
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>>81087801
Is the Mammal inclusion program an Affirmative action mandate or is it just lifting species specific restrictions?

Besides, the criticism against AA is it lets people who don't qualify pass through anyways. She was top of her class.
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>99% rating on RT

HOW

WHAT BLACK MAGIC IS THIS
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>>81087664
Die anon.
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>>81087777
Same here. except for me the kids started being noisy after the jumpscares. The Limo Scene and the Hospital scene had the theatre in an uproar for like 5 minutes after each.
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>>81087664
kinky
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>>81087846
I've been in a packed theater, twice and only have the gasps of children and adults at the asylum jump scare, and the bite scene, and laughs for Breaking Baaaaaaad.
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>>81087777
Why people see Zootopia spoilers on /v/? Isn't /v/ for talking about video games or something?
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>>81087863
Paid reviews.
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>>81087777
>>One kid walks up to the screen and starts hugging it during the Judy crying scene
Jesus. When I was a kid I wasn't that emotional.
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does anyone have the iwtftb variant of this?
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These ultrarenders are awesome.
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>>81087801
Prejudice and species discrimination yes.
In that world it's not entirely wrong, either.
"It's not about what you WANT, it's about what you are CAPABLE of."
She was the first of her kind and he had very clear prejudice against her as he thought she wouldn't be up to the task.
And honestly, without Nick she probably wouldn't have been.
I still don't know what the fuck your crack thing is, that's like saying poison dart frog coated weapons are crack.
The nighthowlers were weaponized, not made into street drugs.
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>>81087863
The same black magic that allowed Disney to fit this much smug into a single fox.
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>>81087863
RT only measures how many critics liked the movie, not how much they liked it.
A movie that gets a bunch of 6/10's will have a higher RT percentage than a movie with half 4/10's and half 10/10's.
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>>81087675
>Not wanting to love in rightclops neighborhood
>current calender year
Well shit son you may just be one of them nasty preds
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>>81087937
That's not the real QT Piggy
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>>81087919
nice meme
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>>81087863
It's a good movie. There's nothing bad about it.
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>>81087952
>mutie scum
>in my neighborhood
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>>81087969
nice meme
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>>81087961
>They made a pig cop
The absolute madmen
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>>81087776
Unfortunately some of those stereotypes used in the movie as examples did come through loud and clear with real life comparisons that are very easy to draw.
"Oh there's a THEM now, huh?"
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>>81087969
>There's nothing bad about it

Except the fact that we're going to be waiting 4 years for a sequel
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>>81087961
>>81087937
>pigs
>cute

NOPE
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>>81087826
Worse. British.
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>>81087984
So do you side with the shit tier inhumans?
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>>81087969
In retrospect I didn't like the sloth scene at all. I felt it went on too long and wasn't funny even in an Ironically bad kind of way.
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>>81087961
>>81087937
Absolutely Haram
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>>81088022
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>>81087818
Another kid wanted to go join him as well, his mother yelled his name, and while he was looking at her he just started slowly creeping down the stairs.

>>81087826
Nope, all just a bunch of white middle-class families. My local cinema is just cursed. When I went to see X-Men DoFP, a pipe burst and part of the wall came down. People just moved seats and tried to ignore the dripping noise.

>>81087846
I assumed going during school hours would be safe since all the children would be at school. Little did my poor idiotic mind realise that all the kids that are to young to go to school would be there instead. I'll keep that in mind for future reference anyway, cheers anon.

>>81087870
First crying kid probably came about after the first jumpscare in the lab scene, the rest of them just joined in for fun.

>>81087916
I don't even know, I think Judy came up in some thread then some guy just posted the clip of the "bite".

>>81087920
I don't think he even cared about what was happening in all honesty, just marvelling at how big the screen was.
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>>81088030
I side with good ol' homo sapiens.
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>>81087826
You saw the movie, at least use the lessons you learned while watching it.
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>>81088000
but then those are countered by the "opposite" group sharing in the same stereotypes. it's muddled up so you can't fully, accurately draw those conclusions without willfully being obtuse--and on purpose.
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>>81088046
Did this movie open in any Islamic countries?
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>>81087558
Lock screen...
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>>81088046
>Won't
>Date
>HR
>Wed

What's HR?
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>>81088000
But they were inconsistent as all fuck. The "Oh so there's a THEM now." Comment was quickly followed up by a predator riot with pickit signs that read shit like "PRED PRIDE" which is something associated more often in white supremacy groups.
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>>81088030
Inhumans are basically mutants anyway.
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>>81088041
The only problem with the sloth scene was that it was spoiled in the trailers
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>>81088088
and home screen.
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>>81088057
Huh. Weird. I saw KFP3 twice, and Zootopia twice, all four times were during the day on a weekday, and all four times the theater was either empty or had only 2-3 other people in it; no children.
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>>81088092
Homestar runner?
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>>81088086
meant for
>>81088050
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>>81088110
If they'll date or whatnot.
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>>81087916
>Isn't /v/ for talking about video games or something?
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>>81088044
I want to run my hand through Dawn's floof while cuddling her
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>>81088086
Yea, it's showing in Europe
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>>81087675
When it's done this way, the message is stronger. It implies that even if races are very different, they can get along and oppression is bad. When we look at ourselves and how we're not that different, we can see that we can get along more easily than these aliens.
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No they were animals. They can represent blacks but fantasy by its unrealistic nature is an ambiguous allegory an can represent many things
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>>81088064
So mutants AND inhumans, then?
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>>81088088
>>81088111
lion jesus help me
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>>81087777
>>One kid walks up to the screen and starts hugging it during the Judy crying scene
And thus a new Nick has been born.

I had some luck with mine:
I had a couple with their toddler in my first viewing (at 10 PM). The kid was a bit noisy at times, but other than that not much of a problem.

Nothing on second viewing. Just adults and older teens including a older couple that looked like it would never watch anything but art films and international movies. They were sitting through the entire credits too.

Third viewing there was a asian kid who'd constantly say somethig, but wasn't too loud. His cute mom had the time of her life with Zootopia.
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>>81088120
Keep in mind, march is when many schools have thier "spring break", this week especially. Zootopia gained like 130 theaters this week, places were packed when I went.
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>>81088011
Fuckity-FUCK Fuck You!
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>>81087916
>/v/
>Talking about anything that even somehow, in a fucked up and misguided kinda way, pertains SLIGHTLY to a videogame.

Anon...
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>>81088092
get reported to Human Resources for unprofessional behavior at work (fucking in the locker room)?
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>>81088227
>Human Resources
>Human
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>>81088227
>Human Resources
>Human
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>>81087937
oh boy
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>>81088022
Did they really change voice actors? Do they talk now with hot british accent?
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It is probably safe to assume that most people will equate their own race with whichever animal group is being mistreated at the time.
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>>81088246
>>81088254
good point. what would it be then?
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I did a thing

http://pastebin.com/30D4EaS7

P-please comment, I'm trying to improve
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>>81088206
Yeah, I saw Zootopia the week after its premiere; on March 7th in IMAX, it was just me, some other guy, and a mother with her 4 year old daughter. Second time was a week later in RealD, and it was just me, some kid around my age (23-25) and another mother with her kid.
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>>81088289
Animal relations obviously.
I don't think the artist had the foresight.
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>>81088274
I think they only redubbed the newscasters, which was a nice touch.
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>>81087607
>Whites still believe they're majority
>Whites still believe they are not the predators but rather prey who "durndu nuthin rong, them spics taek our jerbs"

Then again:
>>81087337 This
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>>81088289
Homerun, duh
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>>81088300
Mammal Resources is what it should be.
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>>81088297
Disgusting
make more
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>>81088067
>>81088102
These are true. Although the preditor protest was led by a Gazelle, which is prey. Probably to make it more muddled (and use their celeb voice for their celeb character.)

It kind of makes sense that they would use stereotypes that easy to draw the real life equivalent of, since that makes it easier to understand than just using animal stereotypes.
Touching a sheep's wool and saying "oh I've never felt it, it's like a cloud!" gets the moral across better than something like "rabbits have no patience." or something like that.
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>>81088088
>>81088111
pretty gay desu
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>>81088322
Did you go through it that fast?

It took me fucking forever
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>>81088208
daw
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>>81088170
Europe BTFO Literally
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>>81088165
oh god, why is every character and clothes design in this movie so perfect?
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Say something nice about Finnick
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Most of the Chinese posters are just lame photoshops of the stock vectors, adding in chinese stuff, but this one is actually pretty clever.
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>>81088368
his ears are nice
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Why didn't it feel like a Disney movie?
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>>81088248
AWWW!
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>>81088385
Because it had depth.
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>>81088385
Because Moana was supposed to be this year's big Disney title
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>>81088274
Only dubbing was every line saying "Zootopia" to "Zootropolis".
I still have no fucking idea why that's a thing over here. It's pointless.
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>>81088368
Cool bro
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>>81088368
He's black
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>>81088385
No singing princesses?

>Judy is the new Disney princess.
>Nick is her animal sidekick.
>The badge is her tiara.
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>>81088416
Same reason that the Megadrive is called "Genesis" in the USA: Someone else already had the name copyrighted in that region.
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>>81088416
Copywrite. There's a zoo in England named Zootopia that Disney should have just bought out first.
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>>81088416
Zootopia is apparently a zoo there? And they got butthurt over the name?
I dunno if i saw a movie called Zootopia, and there was a Zoo called Zootopia, id go literally just for the name similarity.
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How the hell would she frame Nick and Judy AFTER calling the police?
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>>81088451
>>81088456
Surprised they didn't want to do a tie-in.
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>the preds are supposed to be blacks/muslims!
>the prey are obviously supposed to he whites framing the preds for being vicious!

every goddamned thread

none of them are supposed to be any direct reference to any race, they all exhibit aspects of tons of different races. the movie's species system is obviously its own thing, and thats why it works so well and doesn't feel judgemental or preachy. i know a lot of you tumblrettes want the movie to have some sort of strict and specific political message, but it's not the case. it's a vague and indirect, yet relatable message.
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>>81088462
Judy would be dead, and Nick would be carried off.
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>>81088462
Judy would have been dead and Nick would have been incapacitated. They wouldn't have been able to say anything in their defence.
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>>81088165
This just makes me think of how much I liked the use of contemporary technology in this movie. I haven't seen many animated movies nail that as well as this one did.
Especially the way Judy used her phone.
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>>81088456
That would probably turn out badly, either way.

>movie is bad
>zoo is eternally known as "the zoo named after that shitty movie"

>movie is good
>people go there and it's just a regular zoo, nothing at all to do with the movie
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>>81088385
Because the movie had pretty solid pacing that didn't slow to a crawl for musical numbers?
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>>81088462
Nick was supposed to kill Judy, and then be too nuts to tell them what happened. The poison would remain a secret.
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>>81087164

No, it's an LGBT metaphor:

- Predators = accusations of gay men being pedophiles

- Villain is a sheep, a symbol of the religious and the stupid.

- Judy is a woman, who has sympathy for the gay man but is herself a bit prejudiced

- Original draft showed predators wearing collars, which is a metaphor for sodomy laws.
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>>81088368
His voice actor's first name is Tiny.
That's hilarious. Clearly his parents have precognitive powers.
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>>81088192
Did Finnick enjoy dressing up as a baby?
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>>81088456
Yeah, like what the fuck, free publicity and shit.
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>>81088505
cease.
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>>81088496
Ayy lmao
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>wanted to watch it again tomorrow
>last showing on that day is way too early for me
THANKS, B-v-S! I hope I can go next week to another theater. Gotta push ticket sales for Zoomania.
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Can somebody post the character reference for Judy? Not the coloured one from the art-book but the sketchy one. The one that explains tooth shape, nose proportions, and not to give her 3-mouth. One of my friends is an artist who needs it for her Judy arts.
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>>81088496
Bryon pls

Don't you have some artwork to sign?
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>>81088484
>>81088486
>>81088495
How would she do that in the 20 seconds she had once they revealed they were acting?
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>>81088385
It didn't feel like a Disney movie in the same way that The Emperor's New Groove didn't feel like a Disney movie. It threw out all the tropes we are used to and used ones that aren't typical to the Disney formula.
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...Come to think of it, did anyone notice any equine characters mucking about?
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>>81088495
>>81088484
>>81088486
That's pretty fucking dark. I mean, I love it, its just such a change after a few movies of tame, pussy villainous shit.
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>>81088002
Graphic novel, MMO or just any videogame that doesn't suck, or a TV series perhaps?
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i <3 nick
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>>81087600
>>81087671
>>81087696
>>81088088
Wow, thanks guys. These would no doubted make my day
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>>81088560
Yeah. A Zebra and a donkey.
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>>81088416
Funny how european theaters showing OA actually had the Zootropolis version. Weeks before the UK.
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>>81088544
>memetale
fuck off
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>>81088560
Horses and zebras were all over
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>>81088560
There were horses and zebras in the background.
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>>81087364
Is it a conspiracy if it's true?
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>>81088496
If this is true then why does Judy get afraid of being attacked by Nick?

Do gays usually beat women?
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>>81088489
they're doing it in Japan though
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>>81088560
gazelles are equine.
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>>81088549
Poorly
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>>81088590
>I don't like it so I'm going to call it a meme
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>>81087164
I thought they were the white. In power yet still guilty of past stigma.
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>>81088607
what the fuck is this?
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>>81088613
I like Undertale, dude, but you're being a sperg and eating up the image limit on offtopic shit.
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>>81088607
The fuck is this? Fursona shit?
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>>81088613
You know /co/ pretty much hates tumblrtale.
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>>81088601
That's Japan though, they're a special case.
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>>81088519
WHY?
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Since Judy is the Disney princess, when do we get some art of Judy in her police swat gown with tiara?
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>>81088368
One of my favorite moments from the movie were him making fun of Nick.
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>>81088601
Japan has the benefit of knowing it's a good movie, so it's not much of a risk.

Japan is also Japan; they fucking LOVE talking animals.
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>>81087607
They're not socially dominant, though. Other than the mayor, every authority figure and businessman is an herbivore. The predators we are shown, again other than the mayor, are either cops or criminals

It's like saying black people are socially dominant because Obama is president
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>>81088107
Yeah, that's the kind of thing that only really works once.
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>>81088644
>"being a sperg"

I'm not the one freaking out and getting buttmad over seeing an image from a franchise I don't enjoy.
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>>81088639
>>81088667
yes! continue!

also needs a translation

where do people find this korean art anyway?
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>>81088590
I'll allow it.
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>>81088368
His van is fucking amazing. Anyone have the art on the side of it?
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>>81087164
Everyone was every oppressed minority. This movie did not want you to miss its message.
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>>81088613
He's the guy from /v/!
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>>81088639
>>81088667
I have never needed a translation more than now
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>>81088560
Birds, snakes, fish i dont think i saw any of these "special" requirement animals in the movie, too bad would have loved to see how they handled it in a modern setting. Some sort of sea worl-, Oceanu-, Blue Plane-, water worl, FUCK some sort of ocean biome city.
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>>81088692
>/co/ in a nutshell
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>>81088694
probably on pixiv or something
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I hope the if they do a second movie that they don't pull the whole "duo gets angry/upset and splits up for ten minutes" thing again. But that's mainly because I can't think of a way for them to redo that shit without being incredibly generic or just stupid.
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>>81088692
>I'm not the one freaking out and getting buttmad
>proceeds to freak out and get buttmad
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>>81088744
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>>81088560
there;'s a group of Zebra right after Judy gets off the train at the start.

One of the Junior Rangers that bullies Nick is a Zebra.

There was a horse at the press conference holding a boom mic.
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>>81088744
STOP
T
O
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>>81088744
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>>81088602
Antelope have cloven hooves, they're not equine
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>>81088744
REMOVE
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>>81087527
RIP in piece
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>>81088744
>Coming into the thread just to post garbage
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>>81088744
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>>81088613
>>81088711
>>81088578
>>/utg/
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>>81087777
>One kid walks up to the screen and starts hugging it during the Judy crying scene
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>>81088645
One of the left's clearly Gideon.
Speaking of, Gideon Grey's the name of a britbong indie wrestler who portrays a Lord of the Manor gimmick.
>foxhunter to literal fox
MEME
A
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>>81088648
You do know some people are able to think for themselves and not immediately follow whatever /co/ says, right?
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Tell me. Why does he wear the smug?!
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>>81088369
>not replacing tiger (hu) with Fox (hu)
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>>81088838
to hide his insecurities
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>>81088744
Thank heavens that looks nothing like Finnick
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>>81088838
Because he hurts inside
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>>81088744
delete this
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>>81088722
I would have liked to see a few birds and snakes. Birds could be pilots or something.
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>>81088838
Because getting hustled IS part of his plan
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>>81088722
Sequel m8
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>>81088744
Why must you post?! Begone!!
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>>81088873
and they would do it again
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Cute rattlesnake girl sequel when?
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>>81088722
There are clearly marked fish markets in Tundratown. Fish world isn't happening.
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>>81087164
Hard to say who is what when we have things like the Bunny "that's our word!!" with cute.
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>>81088092
Probably "Home Run".
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>>81088818
Oh he's got the hair thing.
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>>81088722
The artbook had a seals and a water based escalator.
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>>81088505
Absolutely. Are you kidding me? Y'all can try to close your eyes to it, but Finnick screams ABDL.
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>>81088744
You know, even though diaper fetishists are the absolute fucking worst kind of people, it's not even the worst part of this image. The worst part is that Finnick is so utterly off model that his face looks like a koala. Also, atrocious proportions and even worse perspective.

I have seen better drawings from second graders.
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