>Rotten tomatoes
>>81018210
They did that all ready with Captain America 2.
>>81018210
>Big dumb punchy film is secretly good because YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Oh I love this. Please keep melting down further. This is the best week
>Philosophical political drama
>>81018210
>@justice.league.memes
Please tell me this is bait
>>81018210
>damage control
Captain America 2 did it better.
>>81018223
Nobody see Captain america 2.
So, it fell under the radar.
>Here's a philosophical political drama
>Here's a 70's political thriller
LOL
>>81018210
>Go to see a philosophical political drama that explores mankind's need for hope and the dangers of absolute power
>it's a capeshit
>two grown men refuse to sit down and talk things out for 3 hours
Films aren't video games, if you want to explore these themes you can make proper movies about it.
Fucking Superman and Batman shouldn't be that venue.
This place is just going to be shitpost central for the rest of the month isn't it?
>>81018262
God forbid you enjoy yourself in a movie without someone jerking their politics off in your face.
>>81018287
>month
Try year.
>>81018307
>Just turn your brain off!
>>81018287
If things are like MOS...it will be 3 years.
Thing is, this will be much WORSE because it had bigger stakes and Civil War coming.
I'm out of this board tomorrow, for a long time.
>when they don't understand RT.
>>81018287
>the rest of the month
Bad news, anon:a month and a half
A talented writer can also make that entertaining.
>>81018210
That's funny, because even the positive reviews point out the "philosophical political drama" is barely explored and that ultimately this is a just a movie of big guys punching each other
>>81018342
>>81018317
>4 more years of Man of MurderOne of these days we will get mods.
>>81018210
>even fucking casuals are going into full damage-control mode
Did MoS's reviews get people this riled up?
>>81018262
>Nobody see Captain america 2.
Please do go on. Nobody saw GotG either right?
The one thing that the critics seem to agree on even the positive ones besides Batfleck being the best part is that the philosophical drama and all that shit is heavy-handed and not done well at all
>>81018381
Let be frank, A-lot movies happen in that year.
It is like the frozen of the marvel movie.
If theatrical's a mess, I wonder how the extended DVD release will be.
I'm still seeing it. Twice. So are you.
The RT scores are a sad indication of the damage Marvel films have done to to the way we culturally perceive superheroes. Critics see something as grand in its ambitions, scope and philosophical scale, and are reviewing it based on how good a Marvel quip-em-up family film it is instead of how good a drama it is.
The bad reviews are happening for one reason, and one reason only. Film critics who have been conditioned to not take comic book movies seriously by Marvel's outings are seeing this film fail to be a Marvel film and lambasting it under the false assumption that's what it's trying to be and failing to give it a chance as a film that uses pop culture icons to explore questions about human nature.
/co/ can laugh it up now over RT scores. Marvel fans tend to live in the moment, the now, and give little concern to the implications of the things they indulge in. Mark my words, in ten years time this film will be remembered as one of the most critically misunderstood films of the decade, and it's reassessments will be marked by regret over how little its direction was understood.
>Complains that 2 and a half hours is too long for a movie.
>Binges 5 episode of Daredevil in one sitting.
>>81018496
>grand in its ambitions, scope and philosophical scale
Holy shit my sides
Your not as smart as you think you are kid
>>81018496
I'm saving this one.
>>81018496
THE CRINGE IS COMING FROM INSIDE THE THREAD
>>81018487
Yeah, probably.
When have DC comics ever been fun? The whole DC universe looks like a horrible place to live, so I'm somewhat shocked when fan boys hate on it for not being quipy and sunshiney as Marvel.
>>81018262
Oh good God....
I haven't seen BvS, but I can guaran-fucking-tee it'll be nowhere near as entertaining as all the damage control I've seen since yesterday afternoon.
>>81018487
I'll rent it for 5 bucks.
>>81018496
Go to bed, Zack. The difference between Marvel's movies and this isn't that those are family films and this is deep and philosophical. The difference is that those are written and directed by people who don't actively hate caped superheroes and would rather be working on something else.
>>81018487
Yes, but only because I have two different groups of friends
>>81018496
>Critics see something as grand in its ambitions, scope and philosophical scale
The problem is that it does not deliver on this
You can be as grand and ambitious as you want but if you're just a shallow piece of shit pretending to be deep, you're going to be judged more critically
>>81018496
>>81018611
Ban all users under 25 already.
>>81018496
I hope it's satire. I'm really sad that people who think capes are deep exist.
If you think DC is better then Marvel, this means capeshit is not something you watch to relax while being able to consume better fiction if you are in the mood. It means it's your intellectual celling - big guys punching each other.
>>81018537
TV shows=movies obviously
>>81018487
I might see it once in the middle of april after everything has died down, but I'm gonna see it for free no matter what so it's not like I'm gonna affect ticket sales.
>>81018614
That makes absolutely no sense at all.
> A popcorn film - and this is a popcorn film - should never feel like Sunday night homework.
Literally, too dense for normies.
>>81018487
I'm seeing it multiple times. I'm just not paying for it.
>>81018210
>>81018496
MORE OF THIS
The butthurt is absolutely delicious.
>People acting like B v S is some Beasts of No Nations-esque drama about the nature of man
Fucking Zootopia is a more socially relevant film than B v S. And that has a shit load of colorful scenes and fun events in it.
TWS Guardians and MoS were the best comic movies yet. avengers 1 and 2 were soft. excited for bvs and civil war. dp wwas tough shit too
>>81018687
Special snowflake confirmed
>>81018688
>no boobs in that doujinshi
Cocktease bs.
>>81018374
Nah, now it's Bat of Murder.
>>81018334
And there's nothing wrong with that. Not everything has to be politicized and meaningful. Especially a god damn cale movie.
>>81018496
The thing is DC tries and fails.
Marvel doesn't even need to try at this point, which is sad.
>>81018487
I haven't seen MoS and I'm sure as shit not seeing this
>>81018695
Batman Begins, Spiderman 2, TWS, TDK and Iron Man are the best comic movies yet.
Guardians and MoS were meh.
I don't give a flying fuck about rotten tomatoes
>A philosophical drama that explores mankind;s need for hope and the dangers of absolute power
>Reports stating that Lex Luthor's most villainous deed is peeing in someones drink
What a deep and thought provoking film!
OP, phrases like "philosophical political drama" and "exploring mankind's need for hope" and "exploring the dangers of absolute power" are completely meaningless.
Every story dealing with Superman can be said to be those things. The fact that it "explores" them doesn't mean it explores them well, or in an interesting way, or in any meaningful way.
The Smurfs explores agrarian communism, y'know? Doesn't mean it provides insights or a new or interesting take on the subject.
>>81018735
How do you even live your life?
>>81018233
Lol. This.
>Damage Control: The Thread
Countless other movies can tell a philosophical drama that is enjoyable that is rated well. When Snyder does it though, there is a condpiracy and/or a problem with the system when it is reviewed badly. There is no way it is just a bad movie made by a talentless hack. No sir, no way!
Christ, get off of the manlet's dick already. It's going to be amazing how many people continue to defend him after WB boots him, and the new director's first DC movie is certified fresh.
>>81018735
I watched MoS and that's why I'm not watching this. So good call, I guess.
>>81018726
>And there's nothing wrong with that.
There is when "turn your brain off" capeflicks become the norm. People like you are the reason why we can only have animation aimed at children. Cartoons can only be profitable if they are comedies aimed at children, because otherwise no one would care. Same deal here.
>>81018726
Okay so then what is it?
What is BvS then? Is it a no-brainer cape flick you need to turn your brain off to enjoy or is it a deep political analysis using two heroes to tell a message? Is it about Batman and Superman with some heroes or does it need to set up the JL movie? Is a movie about these heroes or is it breaking them down? It can't be fucking both. It would just be a clusterfuck, and DC has been going back and forth on what this movie should be perceived as and that hurts it.
>>81018334
*kale
>ftfy
>>81018210
Civil War will be both of those things, just saying
>>81018735
Why are you even here you stupid cocksucker?
>>81018496
This is bullshit. Chronicles is a superhero film and it's taken very seriously by critics. It's "Man of Murder" done right.
In fact, go watch Chronicles. It's one of the best superhero films to come out, ever.
>>81018496
>DC puts out its 4th boring, miserable, 2deep4u shit movie in a row
>once again it's everyone else's fault that it's shit and DC isn't to blame
How much do you hate your own life?
A lot, right?
>>81018365
This this is what's amazing. You guys are free to ignore the negative reviews if you want to claim they're biased or shills or whatever but even the ones that say the movie is good are resigned as hell about it.
My personal favorite is the positive review that essentially went "Well that happened."
>>81018787
Why do you want cartoons aimed at adults? Are you too autisitic to watch live-action?
None of you have even seen the movie.
>>81018496
>A bloo bloo bloo Drama is dead
Sweet copypasta.
People would love serious capes. Just not from a shit director. It's not our fault you bet on a horse with a gimpy leg.
>>81018487
I'm definitely gonna see it once so I can adequately shitpost about it, but twice?
Fuck that
>>81018807
It's called Chronicle, dipshit. And no. Found footage films are a gimmick to make up for a lack of storytelling ability.
>>81018808
>4th boring, miserable, 2deep4u shit movie in a row
Talk about reaching hard
>tfw even the positive reviewers are not that impressed
>>81018262
and this board claims to hate Cap 2 so how is any of this justified?
>>81018859
>I'm definitely gonna see it once so I can adequately shitpost about it,
This is what all others should strive for. You need to know the movie inside and out to be able to shitpost at your best.
>>81018692
I think Zootopia was trying a bit too hard with its racism parallels, though. It didn't feel genuine, and "racism is bad, guys" isn't exactly deep social commentary.
I enjoyed it as a buddy-cop kids movie but let's not act like it was profound
>>81018877
>Mara Reinstein
>Jordan Hoffman
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm
>>81018487
You're right, but if it's shit I prevent my sister and her friends from giving g their money to it because they trust my opinion.
Word of mouth works both ways
>>81018365
>Quarter billion dollar remake of The Odd Couple
>in which Oscar and Felix are literally trying to kill each other
I'd go see that.
>>81018754
Man the movie probably doesn't even explore them. Man of Steel was like that too. It just went "these themes exist" and left them at that. Saying a theme exists isn't exploring it.
>>81018262
>Went to see Cap2 with friends
>They thought it was shit
>Going to watch BvS with them
>tfw I expect them to praise it as the Citizen Kane of cinema
(Can't wake up)
>tfw you go away for a day and everything changes.
>>81018840
No, but I seem to remember "you don't get it" being the same damage control used for Man of Steel even though there was nothing to "get". I'm not getting fooled twice.
>>81018787
>People like you are the reason why we can only have animation aimed at children.
This movie isn't exactly helping either. The positive reviews are saying it's not doing the philosophical elements well, and something trying and failing like this is just gonna make people point to what's working even more.
>>81018891
>this board claims to hate Cap 2
What? /co/ voted Cap 2 as the best superhero movie of 2014 and every time there's a "rate the MCU movies/what's your favorite MCU movie" question TWS is pretty much always in the top 3.
>>81018876
>Bats v. Supes: Yawn of Justice
>Man of Murder
>The Dank Meme Rises ft. Big Guy
>Green LanternInsert joke here
My math isn't great but I count 4.
>>81018952
>green lantern
>2deep4u
>>81018952
/tv/ sounds like your home board
>>81018262
>mfw this shitstorm
>>81018487
Not fucking likely. I walked out of Man of Murder, I'm sure as hell not walking into Daredevil 2: Cashgrab boogaloo.
>>81018537
>Daredevil can make watching 12 hours of DAD I CANT SEE entertaining
>BvS can't manage 2 and a half
>>81018817
If the live action is also aimed at kids...
>>81018788
>Is it a no-brainer cape flick you need to turn your brain off to enjoy or is it a deep political analysis using two heroes to tell a message?
I've always held that you have to turn off your brain (and possibly throw it into the nearest bi) to enjoy a Snyder movie. That hasn't changed with these reviews.
>Is it about Batman and Superman with some heroes or does it need to set up the JL movie?
It needs to set up the JL movie. That's the only purpose of the Knightmare sequence you guys were losing your shit over. It wasn't to galvanize Bruce against Clark (Lex does that) it was to go "vagueness is coming get hype for a sequel!)
> Is a movie about these heroes or is it breaking them down?
Yes.
>? It can't be fucking both. It would just be a clusterfuck,
Because no one ever has ever made a clusterfuck of a movie. Least pf a;; Zack Snyder
>>81018920
>went to see Cap 2 with friends
>"anon, this movie was pretty hard to follow and didn't have enough jokes. Thor 2 was better".
Could be worse, at least your friends aren't as retarded as mine.
>>81018939
>/co/
>voted
yeah right, I don't remember voting
>>81018496
>/co/ can laugh it up now over RT scores. Marvel fans tend to live in the moment, the now, and give little concern to the implications of the things they indulge in. Mark my words, in ten years time this film will be remembered as one of the most critically misunderstood films of the decade, and it's reassessments will be marked by regret over how little its direction was understood.
this is the kanye west of films
>>81018611
>I haven't seen BvS, but I can guaran-fucking-tee it'll be nowhere near as entertaining as all the damage control I've seen since yesterday afternoon.
Someone on /tv/ last night said "It's still a decent 40%"
If they got a 40 on a test would they say "That's still decent and not a miserable failure"?
>>81018866
Slow motion ramping and chroma key are just as gimmicky. You're just not aware of them.
>>81018985
I know. I haven't laughed this hard and for this long in a while.
>>81018600
Christopher Reeves superman. Michael Keaton Batman. Every single DC animated series.
How fucking old are you kid?
>>81019007
The annual /co/ awards, newfag.
>>81019001
>Least pf a;; Zack Snyder
You ok anon?
>>81018985
The defense force is out in full and the movie hasn't even been released yet.
This is some 8.8 level shit.
It's everything I could have hoped for and more.
>>81019007
12 year olds couldn't register
>>81018487
I haven't seen a Live Action superhero movie since 2010, I'm not about to start now.
>>81019007
>Barack Obama is the president of the US
Yea right, I don't remember voting
You were probably still on /tv/ then
>>81019021
>If they got a 40 on a test would they say "That's still decent and not a miserable failure"?
Depending on where you live, that's a possibility.
>>81019028
Keaton Batman was grimdark.
>>81018634
two GROUPS of friends!?
anon how?
>>81018896
I thought it was perfectly solid on it's points about systemic bigotry. About how even victims of it (Judy) can still be guilty of it (towards Nick) and that it's all our responsibilities to understand where that comes from and fight against it.
Besides, heavy handed or not, it still has higher dramatic aspirations than B v S most likely does.
>>81018985
It's so fucking good.
Whether this movie is good or bad doesn't matter, because so far it's the most entertaining thing to happen to cinema and it's not even out yet.
>>81019023
Those are just techniques.
Found footage films are a genre of their own. Hence the name "found footage film"
>>81019057
I'm sure on some planet you are correct, but your weak link is: This is Earth.
>>81018487
I saw the last Batman movie once and regretted it.
I pirated Man of Steel. I did technically watch it twice, but only because I fell asleep during the second act.
I'm not even bothering with that for BvS. Why bother? It can't be more entertaining than this thread, right now.
>>81019030
you mean, shillcentral?
>>81018487
>implying I'm even seeing it on release weekend
Fuck that, I'm getting my spook on and seeing The Witch this weekend, BvS can wait.
>>81019007
https://coawards.wordpress.com/
Newfag. Go back to /tv/ already.
>>81019035
New keyboard. Not used to it yet.
>>81018985
It's amazing isn't it?
Like I thought Fant4stic was going to be the best we would get for a while but this is a goddamn meltdown
>>81019154
I like Marvel and DC, but I'm posting out of spite for Snyder. Does it count?
>>81019147
>wordpress
it's getting better.
what's next, tumblr?
oh wait, it's already confirmed that tumblr rules this board
>>81019154
I don't really like Marvel, I only like it for not being not DC.
>>81019154
95% of the thread 2bh. It's seriously pathetic.
>>81019153
/co/ hadn't been waiting on Fant4stic for three years. There haven't been numerous stickies on /co/ and /tv/ for Fant4stic.
>>81019173
nope.
>>81019154
/co/ is the melting pot for /v/ and /tv/ shitposters these days.
>>81018210
The reviews say that it is a philosophical political drama at first but then throws everything away to have a bunch of dumb action(which includes the destruction again of the whole city and batman killing people with guns) and trying to set up the shitty universe.
>>81019021
Fuck that, I just saw someone on a /co/ thread call 35% "average" like two hours ago.
This whole ordeal has been fucking amazing, my phone has been glued to my hand for the past day.
>>81019098
Man the thing is, I don't have any found footage movies that come to mind that I've even liked, but I'll be damned if I don't give them a fair shot when I compare them to a Snyder movie. The man should stick to doing commercials because he can't tell a coherent story to save his life. Eighty to ninety percent of the pathos in his movies is soundtrack and lighting.
And the stunning thing is people blame everyone except him, even though we literally have an example of his work when it's 100% free of out outside influence in Suckerpunch and its the worst of the lot!
>>81018210
I'm gonna have to keep this open in another tab and show my brother, I fucking told him a thread like this would happen. I just didn't expect it so soon. Bravo your saltiness has exceeded even my expectations.
Now tell us about the philosophical underpinnings and political ramifications of the piss scene. Dead serious. I crave your insight.
>>81019225
>phoneposting
The absolute worst of society.
>>81019153
>>81019203
/co/ was united against Tranktastic 4%.
I guess you could say /co/ is having its own Civil War now.
All this anti-DC shilling actually has me pretty stoked for the movie. Seeing as /co/ is pretty much never right I have some faith it'll be an enjoyable time.
>>81018537
Well here's your problem.
Daredevil is actually good and worth people's time.
>>81019265
>Seeing as /co/ is pretty much never right
Yeah, Fant4stic and X-Men Origins are pretty god tier films
>>81019225
I keep thinking like you but I just get super sad at how invested people are
>>81018210
I'm impressed that they've added Abandoned Warehouse Districts to the DCU's cities to prevent future Man of Steel style criticism.
>>81019154
Yeah the Marvel bandwagon lives on. The bubble will burst eventually.
>>81018496
Here's a good question for you then.
If Marvel poisoned the well like you say, why are Daredevil and Jessica Jones so well regarded?
Days of Future Past reviewed well, and it opens in a dystopian fucking hellscape where most of humanity is dead
Deadpool is full of "quips", but it's also family unfriendly and ruthlessly crass and vulgar by mainstream movie standards
Maybe it has nothing to do with Marvel, or deep themes, or shit like that
Maybe it's just BAD
>>81018210
There is kinda a point to that image. If you are making a serious grim drama, why make it about people that run around dressed in capes and tights like some kind of vampire ballerinas?
>>81019283
A fucking vegetable knew those were going to be trash. Can't credit /co/ for that when EVERYONE knew those movies would be shit.
While the movie is probably bad. Where are these standards when Marvel release a new movie? because deadpool aside they haven't had a good movie in years and yet everyone of their shitty movies get good reviews.
>>81018985
I'm still going to give the movie a chance and watch it on Monday (when i have to pay only 4€), but this whole situation is hilarious
I'm going to see the movie and probably enjoy it for what it is, but man I feel like this meltdown and all the damage control might actually be the most entertaining part. I've been laughing since yesterday.
I guess it helps that I don't have expectations for any of these movies.
>I can't think for myself so instead of forming my own opinions i need internet critics to give them to me
>>81018496
This must be why every critic shat on The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises...
...oh wait.
People are shitting on BvS because for all its bluster and grand ambition it's literally named for two action figures slamming into each other, and it's so desperate to be taken 100% seriously that it may as well star a bunch of fucking Hot Topic goths. "SHUT UP, mom! I'm DEEP now! I'm DARK and I'm DEEP!"
>>81018210
It doesn't really matter, the contrarians of /co/ at the end of the day will praise the movie the same way they praise Man of Steel.
>>81019297
>Yeah, the Disney bandwagon lives on. The bubble will burst eventually
-Anonymous WB Executive circa 1955
>>81019287
No dude, don't get me wrong, there's probably people who were really looking forward to this and the whole connected DCCU thing. Now who even knows if anything past WW will come out?
I know what it's like to really get your hopes up just to receive disappointment.FUCK YOU FALLOUT 4, YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE GREAT. WHY COULDN'T YOU JUST BE NEW VEGAS 2?
>>81019391
Bethesda didn't make New Vegas.
You should've knew it would be shit months in advance.
>Batman and Superman reduced to antiheroes killing everyone without mercy
>deep
lol, you can't be this delusional
stop pretending to be retarded to get clicks
>>81018754
>>81018919
Sounds like Naruto. Really, it explores politics, the destructive side of human nature, hope vs fear as what should lead mankind, etc but it's still Naruto so the writing is fucking terrible and touching deep subjects only make the writing flaws to be even more noticeable.
>>81018877
>OP, phrases like "philosophical political drama" and "exploring mankind's need for hope" and "exploring the dangers of absolute power" are completely meaningless.
clearly even the positive reviews were paid by marvel to not be as positive about the film.
>>81018600
You only started reading in the last decade, didn't you.
DC used to be the lighthearted kid-friendly universe and Marvel was the grimdark one, but DC's sales have always been worse so they doubled-down on trying to out-Marvel Marvel, while Marvel has shaken the 90's grit by becoming known more for its movies than its comics.
>>81018496
>The RT scores are a sad indication of the damage Marvel films have done to to the way we culturally perceive superheroes.
>movie sucks
>Better blame Marvel!
The anatomy of a drone.
As an actual DC and super heroes fan I just hope the movie has a good Batman/Wonder Woman. I already gave up Lex and Superman (my two favorites).
>>81019398
But, Creepy jewish man.
That is common sense.
>>81019308
Maybe...
>>81019330
Well that's the thing. People have a hate boner for Snyder and Marvel fags are the Sony fanboys of the comics world.
Insecure as fuck and worried more about hoping for the failure of the "rival company" than enjoying their own shit. Where was all this fuckery when Amazing Spider man was confirmed shit or when Thor 2 failed? Now you see these huge fucking threads citing critcs opinions and the movie isn't even officially out yet so if at the end it goes on to do Transormers money, what will these fags have to say then?
>>81019330
Yeah, good point. Marvel pumps out a solid 5/10 and everyone here shits themselves with excitement.
>Unfortunately, the script’s early promise recedes as the movie unreels. “Batman vs. Superman” is a disorganized, lead-footed movie that carries itself with unearned confidence; you see every card it’s about to play ten minutes before the movie plays it, yet Snyder doesn’t just slap each one down on the table with gusto, he keeps pointing to it and telling you what rank and suit it is. We surely would have surmised that the identical first names of Bruce’s dead biological mother and Jor-El’s adoptive mother—Martha—would come into play eventually, but the film is so worried that somebody might not get it that it has Thomas Wayne croak “Martha” with his dying breath, then finds ways to keep repeating “Martha” over the next two hours, building toward a reprise-flashback of Bruce’s parents’ murder that will bring latecomers up to speed.
Man
This movie sounds so deep
SO deep man
>>81018210
It's a tendency I've noticed, too. And I'm sure it explains why most action films and blockbusters are at most PG-13 only. People don't want depth, drama, scary things or even conflict in their stories; they want films that make then feel safe, that won't stray to far from what is fun and kid-friendly. And /co/ is not the exception; this board is infested with comfyfags, in both /car/ AND /com/ sides of the board.
>>81019398
So what's it like having no self awareness? Oh you probably can't answer that can you..
>>81018487
Only if I meet some dyke who really wants to go to it as a movie date. But unless I meet her tomorrow or something, odds are that she'll have already seen it.
Maybe I'll watch it when it comes out on disc/download. Is funny, I'm liking Ben as Bats and I've HEARD good things about Gail as Wondy, but everything Supes related which seems to be the main point of focus, seems awful to me.
>>81019154
I'm posting out of spite for OP being an idiot.
I was excited to go and see BvS and Civil War on the same day, I'm downright disappointed by how shitty it sounds. Might not bother after all.
>>81019406
I was ignoring the obvious signs it was gonna be shit and tried to convince myself all its shortcomings didn't matter.
Sound familiar, DCfriends?
>>81019431
>People have a hate boner for Snyder
You guys keep saying this. I don't get why it's never occurred to you that maybe it's deserved.
Do you defend Michael Bay and M Night Shymalan this fiercely or is it just Snyder because WB inexplicably backs him?
>>81019430
>>81019459
>Company wars
I bet you fags are in your 40's too.
>>81018210
>Here's a philosophical political drama
You fucking autists never even saw the movie yet but you are all raging at reviews because muh batman, muh superman.
>>81019484
>Michael Bay and M Night Shymalan
Both great directors.
>>81019173
Same here. Hell, if anything, I usually like DC more than Marvel. But Snyder is a fucking moron.
>>81018487
I knew I won't pay for it the moment that horrible trailer appeared.
It pretty much spoiled the entire fucking movie.
What is Capekino?
>>81019484
Difference between Snyder and those two is i enjoy his movies. I also don't adhere to the interne hivemind mentality so i don't go around agreeing with shit just because a lot of faggots say something.
I do realize that there is not a lot of self awareness among angry fanboys though
>>81019484
If Michael Bay and M .Night had been tapped to make Flash or Green Lantern, DC Shills would find some ridiculous way to defend Warner Bros.
>>81019547
The Rocketeer
>>81018817
Because a live action Venture Bros or Rick and Morty would be shit
>>81019431
>Where was all this fuckery when Amazing Spider man was confirmed shit or when Thor 2 failed?
Nice selective memory bro. Amazing Spider-man got a LOT of hate. Especially the Lizard's design and the crane scene.
Thor 2 got a fair amount of hate too. Except
- Even MCU fanboys think the Thor movies are the weak link. There was no vehement defense force to encourage daily threads. (And this is the part you should be paying attention to. If you could just let it go and say "yeah the movie sucked" it'd take the wind out of a whole lot of sales Snyderfags exude so much butthurt that it's impossible to stay away. The schadenfreude is too tempting.)
- It came out at a time of year that was generally pretty slow so nobody cared
- It was after Man of Steel so everyone was stuck in full time MAN OF MURDER memeposting and defending.
>>81019536
Literally who.
>>81019547
Its a superhero movie that is fucking boring.
DC/WB and Disney/Marvel are both crap factories without any interest on cinema as a narrative medium, even mediocre movies can still follow a narrative but modern Hollywood left the movie business a long time ago in favor of franchises. Disney/Marvel just has a better PR team and more accurate focus groups.
>>81018496
>not take comic book movies seriously
It's a movie about a dude who cosplays as a bat to fight crime. And a Jesus from space who fly around in spandex costume.
If you take something like this seriously you need to grow up.
>>81019547
A dank /tv/ meme
>>81019555
>lolcompanywars
And i though console warriors were autistic
>>81019549
>I do realize that there is not a lot of self awareness among angry fanboys though
I know I shouldn't ask this but are you including yourself in that statement?
>>81019330
Marvel films usually don't try for such a grand scale with themes like this and when they do they rightfully get crapped on (see: Age of Ultron).
>>81019574
There was nothing remotely on the level of this and most were claiming it better than the Raimi films.
My main problem with this movie is that pretty much everything was spoiled in the trailers.
I expected this movie to be pretty bad after the trailers. Nothing I've seen of this movie has been good. Eisenburg was also a terrible cast. Plus it's made by Zack Snyder. I'll still watch it though the day it comes out.
>>81019431
>. Where was all this fuckery when Amazing Spider man was confirmed shit
What? ASM was always majorly thought of as a disappointment
>or when Thor 2 failed?
Thor 2 has basically gone down as the worst Marvel movie. Much like Age of Ultron, people do admit it wasn't great or anything. That said, Thor 2 is also completely inoffensive and nobody tries to pretend it was deep
>>81019614
I'm not fighting a company war, kiddo. Not that i expect you to get that being an autist and all.
>>81019641
>most were claiming it better than the Raimi films.
Now you're just shitposting and making stuff up.
WB once again commits to my greatest fear. Their undying commital to the "Epic" movie type for all DC movies. Sure The Dark knight was amazing, and Epics have the highest possible revenues, Avatar was an epic. But Epics are also the hardest to make, they are the biggest gambles, and WB has no variety in their movies. I heard their BvS morality rhetoric in Man of Steel and The Dark Knight Rises before that.
If only WB would reconsider their strategy and ask themselves what are customers looking for when they "hire" a super hero movie. That is right out of my marketing textbook.
>>81019411
Even Naruto manages to have some interesting gems in it about the cycle of revenge and the whole thematic thing with the shipping that /a/ pointed out while dancing in the narusaku flames.
I can honestly say that Naruto is a half increment of quality greater than Snyder's movies tend to be.
>>81019536
>professional critic
Whatever happen to critical thinking?
>>81019547
/tv/ considers kino as the highest level of filmmaking.It's based on a fucking Avatar character.
>>81018866
The "found footage" angle of Chronicle is barely noticeable because the camera is steady 90% of the time.
There's barely any shakycam (I think there's ONE shot of shakycam, but there could be another, I don't remember), no spooky camera angles, no bad lighting or intentionally bad photography.
The reason it's "found footage" is because this idea works perfectly with the personality of the main character.
Everybody go watch Chronicle and see what a good Superman film could be like.
>All these anons taking pride in the fact that they will see it anyway
Oh wow, your such an intelligent free thinker going against the internet hive mind.
Fuck off, shitters like you are the reason this movie is going to make money and we will be stuck with fucking Hack Snyder directing the DC films. Comic fans deserve this.
>>81019431
So Suckerpunch was derided by obsessive Marvel fans, even though it has nothing to do with any DC superhero property, or indeed any superhero property ever made?
>>81019447
This desu senpai. People sure hated all that depth and drama in Nolan's movies!
That's the only explanation! Can't be the director, he's a saint!
>>81019484
I've argued with people here that unironically defended Bay's Transformers movies because "i ask fun fights with giant robots and that's what i get, nothing wrong with him!"
>>81019701
I still have to see the movie to make my own opinion
Me buying a ticket to see Green Lantern didn't help it's box office or general reception any
>>81019555
M. Night did some good stuff, Unbreakable was outstanding. Bay is not as bad as his reputation would have you think, Bad Boys or Pain and Gain were great. But please tell me of what a great filmmaker Whedon is or the person that directed the Thor movies(that is if they shared a director, which isn't likely since Disney doesn't value them)
>>81019547
What does kino mean
>>81019431
>Marvel fags are the Sony fanboys of the comics world
i want /v/ crossboarders to leave
>>81019555
>Michael Bay on GL
I'll be honest, it'd be a lot better than what we got. He gets normies in by the droves for Transformers and TMNT so if he could do that with GL and keep it at least tangently related, I wouldn't mind. Now getting him to do the new one in 2020 (if that's even still a possibility), hell no.
>>81019447
Yeah, which is why TDK flopped.BvS is PG-13.
>>81019677
The thematic thing with the shipping was half Kishi's blatant sexism and half shippers's autism
>>81019694
Shut the fuck up, Landis.
>>81019747
Marvel sacks directors over a fucking 70% RT score. DC needs to take note.
>>81019641
Again, are you at all capable of stepping outside of yourself and entertaining the thought, NOT AGREEING WITH, just saying that maybe it's humanly possible, that the difference is that this movie MIGHT maybe in one of the infinite universes, poorly done?
That the difference in quality and vehement defense might make for a difference in reception?
We're at 72 critics now. Almost at the "this is the consensus" level of 100
>>81019784
American Alien is better than Man of Steel.
>>81019484
Well I've yet to hear an objective criticism of Snyder's actual directing skills.
>>81019666
So that's a no then.
Thing is, I'm not fighting a company war either. I'm fighting a director war. Because if Marvel hired Snyder to-fucking-day I'd say it was their second worst mistake ever made.
We all know the real reason this movie is going to flop: Wonder Woman.
They literally re-wrote the entire script to add her in.
>>81019555
>Michael Bay Doing a Crazy ass Space War
Muh dick
>>81019677
Wait, what with the shipping now? Did the manga address the fan shipping or shoot it down or something?
>>81019777
I wouldn't call it blatant sexism so much as thematic contrast and cultural values dissonance. Hinata is basically a yamato nadeshiko, whereas Sakura is designed in such a way that she'd appeal to western audiences more.
>>81019835
That's the thing, i'm sure the movie is bad, i'm sure snyder did bad shit, but so far everything is about muh jokes, muh fun, muh "too deep".
Since when all action movies need to be equally dumb?
>>81019063
Nothing by Tim Burton is grimdark, that's the irony.
It either tries to hard to be edgy or it has a gothic artstyle.
>>81019881
Do I need to spoiler this?
No, fuck you.
>Naruto ends up with Hinata
>Sasuke ends up with Sakura and turns into a deadbeat dad
>>81019853
Most reviews say she's one of the best parts though.
>>81018223
Did what, make things go "boom" and punched people? Well, they sure did. Not sure about the punching, I've seen better editing in 70's low-budget horror.
>>81018210
>image.jpg
lmao
>>81019411
It even has a stupid generic villain to unite everyone at the end.
>>81019773
If TDK were made and released nowadays, it would definitely flop.
>>81018496
I honestly think the user score is gonna be at least 15% higher than the critic
>>81019920
This is why i love hunter x hunter.
So, I don't get to see shipping like this. Maybe gay shota porn but the series is straight forward.
>>81019920
Yeah, no need to spoiler it. I wasn't going to read it. That's what I expected to happen based on how far into the manga I got, though. I don't get it. What was the problem there? Did shippers just get mad that their ship wasn't canon? Isn't that what always happens when a main character has multiple potential love interests and settles with one of them at the end?
>>81019967
>If TDK were made and released nowadays, it would definitely flop.
Agreed. Critics would hate on Heath Ledger's joke for not being as quippy and "relateable" as Loki
>>81019929
Exactly. They focused on a side character instead of caring about Batman and Superman.
>>81020004
>This is why i love hunter x hunter.
Is it off hiatus yet?
>>81019967
With Heath Ledger's performance? Nope.
>>81019689
Fedoramancers out of reddit and rationalwiki made it look so bad, people just preferred to turn their brains off all the time.
Hah its cute that a grown man that dresses as a wants his movies to be serious
Batman movie based on adam west's tvwhen?
>>81019835
Hard to hear things with your fingers in your ears.
Snyder values style over substance. His cinematograhy is big on spectacle, but devoid of pathos. He thinks in terms of scenes rather than a narrative; he shoots for wallpaper shots and trailers. Stuff that looks cool, but when you try and fit it together the edges push up against each other and the story stops working. Putting aside his cape movies, look at Sucker Punch; he uses the dream sequence motif to hide it there, but that's exactly what he's doing yet again; a bunch of cool looking but ultimately just cool looking stuff, thrown in a blender, and then he comes up with an intellectual sounding justification for it after the fact.
He can't pull good performances out of his actors. Which is a tragedy because he ends up with incredibly charming and talented actors. How is it that Cavill is more charming in The Man from UNCLE than Man of Steel? I KNOW Costner can perform with more warmth than he displays, Field of Dreams alone is evidence of that. This isn't a dialogue issue (although that is not a strong suit of the movie) but an acting one, purely on the shoulders of the director.
Snyder's pacing is also horrendous. Again because his directorial style relies on set pieces rather than plot. He has a big flashy action beat three times a movie, and the rest is a boring slog of psudeo-intellectual soliloquies where characters talk at each other and completely lack any chemistry. Because Snyder doesn't get chemistry. He relies on color and score to impart emotion, not performance.
But whatever. LA LA LA LA LA MARVELDRONE AUTISM, right?
>>81019967
Actually I don't think so.
Made the exact same way and with Batman Begins behind it, I think it would do even better because unlike Snyder's bullshit, it actually would be different
>>81019756
Movie theater in German.
>>81020010
They would have hated it back then too if he didn't die.
>>81020017
Mo, it never going off.
>>81020005
Were you around long enough to remember how the Avatar fandom reacted to Legend of Aang ending? How the zutara people started pulling their hair out and threatening suicide?
It was like that. Times ten. It was delicious. Made even worse (but infinitely more entertaining) by the fact that Kishimoto, the animators, the other fans, pretty much everyone even tangentially related, even the characters themselves, started rubbing it in their faces.
>>81018877
>a popcorn film
What the fuck does this even mean
>>81020058
I don't think so. But I'd wager he wouldn't have gotten an Oscar if he lived though.
>>81020109
It's a synonym for 'comfy'.
>>81018914
>Felix has Oscar in his crosshairs, about to squeeze the trigger
>his sinuses act up; he wheezes and misses the shot, causing a massive explosion
>Oscar tries to poison Felix's dinner but is so inept at cooking that he starts his own kitchen on fire
>>81020031
Aren't those more the issues of the writers and actors? Isn't the script at fault for lacking narrative flow? Shouldn't the actors be able to properly emote?
>>81020022
Nobody would give a fuck about him if not for the fact he died.
Begins made 300 million $. TDK only became so popular because muh Ledger. Muh best Joker ever.
>>81020005
>>81020084
Niggas, you don't understand
http://imgur.com/a/XKwJ4#0
>>81020017
>>81020075
It's coming back mid-April, but for how long is anyone's guess.
