I've had to do with a lot of retarded bullshit these past 24 hours, so what better way to wind down than with some comics
>>81014545
Thanks OP
>>81014564
No problem. I was curious about this comic anyways, so it's a win-win
>>81014545
All I know about Hyperion was that he was a villian in Avengers Assemble for a couple of episodes, what was his team called? Squadron Supreme?
>>81014588
Jesus christ. "Isn't unnerving that people own GUNS in TWO THOUSAND SIXTEEN"
Also that font is lazy as fuck.
RIP OP
WE HARDLY KNEW YE
Where were you when Marvel wrote best Superman in last 20 years?
>>81014601
Yeah. From what I know about the SS, they're basically an alt universe Justice League
>>81014624
Just some internet troubles. Though I was worried it was my computer being screwy again. Maybe it thought this was a Bendis comic
>>81014633
yeah but they were trying to conquer Earth-12041's Earth. Is this comic from 616/Prime or some earth else?
>>81014643
This comic is 616/Earth-8. They got stranded here because reasons and killed Namor.
>>81014657
I couldn't find any info on Earth-8. Squadron Supreme originates from Earth-712 tho
>>81014682
>She is... full of bees
My god.
And that's it for this issue. Hope you all enjoyed i. I did
>>81014732
Wait, I was getting things mixed up. I was thinking of Universe-8, not Earth-8.
>>81014721
When did he find the time to change
>>81014741
Why does every other superhero have an alt girl sidekick?
>>81014840
Because that's who Marvel wants buying their books.It's not working, but still...
>>81014632
yeah, Sentry was pretty great
>>81014632
this to you is better than any Superman iss from the last 20 years?
>>81014732
>>81014741
There was a reference post-Secret Wars to the current universe being the "8th Universe", but I don't think that's relevant to the Earth nomenclature. They probably will still call it Earth 616. That seemed to be more about the deaths and rebirths of the universe.
>>81014682
someone really liked Mad Max
>>81014688
I never knew I wanted Hyperion Mad Max
but I'm ok with this
So I haven't read SS since they decided to murder Namor. I take it from reading this that Hype Man is having a change of heart about being in the Murder League and is getting back to being the cool guy who beat up Mapmakers or whatever in space with Thor? Because that would be great.
>>81014876
according to the letters page of Web Warriors last week, it's 'Earth Prime' (8th Incarnation), but that flies in the face of a lot of Marvel's multiverse stories so fans are just calling it 616-8
>>81014928
something like that. their most recent arc had them getting stuck on Weirdworld and just murdering their way to freedom with little regard for what was best for Weirdworld
>>81014732
Tom Brevoort REALLY wants people to call Earth-616 "Earth-8" and nobody is doing is because people have used that name for decades now.
>>81014682
what
Did they really need to bring Hyperion into the main universe?
Squadron Supreme was a great series but now isn't he just another flying brick in a world of slightly weaker flying bricks, bar Sentry?
>>81015375
Hyperion's been in the main universe since Hickman wrote Avengers.
>>81014741
Marvel authors literally can't function without a grrrrl within a proximity of ten feet to the hero at any given time.
>>81014860
I adore Sentry but he's a pretty fuckin' shitty Superman, come on now senpai.
>>81015375
Hyperion's first appearance was on 616.
>>81014621
Is that really suppose to be a girl?
>>81014568
For some reason, this page makes me want to vote for Loki.
>>81014588
He must be driving through Texas.
>>81014840
Know how back in the day every hero had a child sidekick, because hack editors thought the target audience of kids wouldn't relate to the heroes themselves? Well, it's the exact same thing.
>>81015004
Nobody will ever call it Earth Prime or anything else.
I wonder how long until Brevoort will understand that to have a chance he'd have to make a new Earth, calling it 616 and make it "important" enough people would be forced to refer to it like that.
...it is unlikely to work anyway.
>>81016679
This is already a non-issue. Tom took a swing at renaming the main universe and missed, expect next explicit mention to it be called 616.
>>81016702
If it was "Earth Prime" in Web-Warriors mail-page, it's likely to keep going being it... until somebody goes "fuck this shit" and claims TVA reordered the new multiverse and it's now 616 again.
>>81014721
Whendo they fug?
This incarnation of Hyperion isn't really all that interesting to be honest, but I gave this issue a shot and it was ok. Bit different.I want Supreme Power Hyperion to come back and fuck people up
>>81014621
Lord Broken!
>>81014666
Satan, we mad max now.
>>81016234
me too. also kinda wait him to tap that fuccaboi
I kinda dig this Hyperion, really like him having a job like this, I don't know, it makes so much sense for the character, going around, trying to have a normal life, i guess it all comes to that page where he meets a dude and he tells him to get into the truck business.
whatever, i really like this outlook on hyperion, hopefully they won't fuck it up, this book has potetial to be a real marvel superman and not just some miracleman reject
>>81014621
Oh hey, it's that Gentry person
>>81014682
oh hey, it's not!doof warrior
>>81016075
We need a Superhero who gains powers by being in close proximity to underage girls more girls near him the stronger he is.
>>81014682
>clown full of bees
Oh God it's my greatest fear!
>>81014741
she looks cute here
>>81022503
Will his story end with him turning into one and becoming so strong that he transcends reality never to be heard from again?
>>81014736
>>81019118
>this book has potetial to be a real marvel superman and not just some miracleman reject
I've been curious as to whether or not Marvel is even going to do anything with Miracleman besides reprints
>whatever, i really like this outlook on hyperion, hopefully they won't fuck it up
Given how they shoe-horned in Standoff into Black Knight and Squadron, I don't doubt that they will
>>81014568
The narration kind of kills this page.
This would have been better without the narration. Do they accept letters for this comic?
>>81014947
Hyperion did recruit Thundra because he thought the others were going too far, so take that as you will.
>>81023591
>>81023873
reading is too difficult for you?
>too many words scare me
>>81022503
I'm pretty sure that's just Wolverine.
>>81023873
They accept letters for all comics. Although now that you mention it, the book doesn't actually say where to send the letters to so I'm not sure what editorial division you'd have to email.
>>81023927
More like this is both a visual and written medium. Narration is fine when it has a place, but having every page with every third panel giving exposition stifles the art and flow of the story. Now go to bed, Lobdell, you're not fooling anyone.
>>81014674
>No guns
easy to tell for you mister you can vaporize people by staring at'em
>>81014682
>>81014716
My apples!
So, is this just a relaunch of US-1?
>>81025556
>Hyperion x US 1
I'd read it.
>>81014588
>Kansas
Subtle
>>81014840
because my benis demands it :^)
>>81014588
The mountains in the background keep weirding me out. I've driven through that part of Nebraska. There are some hills--Valentine is just north of this huge sand hill wildlife reservation that's extremely spare but kind of beautiful--but nothing that big. Or forested.
Okay this has been bothering me, which fucking way is the nuclear symbol supposed to be?
>>81026139
The ionizing radiation symbol is supposed to be oriented like the top left and bottom right, preferably in a triangular yellow sign.
>>81026139
The trefoil is recognizable enough that it can be placed in any orientation, but traditionally, one leaf points downtrefoil would be a good name for a radioactivity-themed superheroine
I liked it. The three page previews didn't have the hook in them. Seeing the entire first issue, I get it now. Definitely picking this up. Thanks.
And yeah, anyone getting a "Jack" vibe from Doll?
>>81014621
Holy fuck, prepare for Gentrification. The Hypercrisis is real!
>>81028483
What is this "Gentrification" in relation to comics?
>>81028595
Basically, the Gentry are villians as metaphorical manifestation of the shitty way people connect to comics: overbearing editorial, corporate bottom line, hack creators, stodgy ideas, entitled fans.
That's what I got out of Multiversity anyway. The art on the page people are quoting resembles the way Reis rendered the Gentry.
>>81029391
I think I get it. I'm totally not familiar with the reference. I'll look it up. Thanks.
I can't wait for this faggot to really get into his examination of middle America and guns. I'm sure the strawmanning will be stupendous.
>>81014741
> it has a vergina
ruined.
>>81029391
You got it right about Multiversity.
It's cool that a Hyperion is getting some shine, but I'm not sure I really want to read about trucking-across-America-to-find-himself Hyperion as much as I do changing-the-world-because-he-knows-best Hyperion or fucking-up-the-US-government Hyperion.
Man, why does Nighthawk get to be the only JMS Squadron survivor?
>>81022503
>>81023964
>>81014741
This reminds me so much of the Midnighter series that Chris Sprouse did. Even the kid alt-girl side kick who is good with machines.
>>81014848
But why alt girl? Why can't it be someone with taste?
>>81015375
There's more than one in 616, or atleast there were before battleworld
>>81014674
>I'm no longer so sure
Nigga you decapitated Namor with your laser eyes
>>81034433
Because they're "hip" and are on social media a lot.
>>81014621
Holy shit its lord fucking broken
I mean Hyperion could resolve that chase in like 0.000000002 fucking seconds or some shit, he's basically Superman.
>>81029585
The Gentry was one of those names and it just stuck with me when I was thinking about beings from beyond, and we used to call them The Gentry. Then I thought of them as being bad things from beyond. From that, they started to grow, and then as you said, this idea of gentrification. When I’m talking to you about the kind of ideas we let into our heads, and taken as a thesis of, what if we let in so many shitty, shoddy ideas that we have completely ruined the neighborhood in there? We’ve dismantled, we’ve wrecked our inner houses and we’ve destroyed our inner palaces, and we’ve placed crackhouses in there, imaginatively.
I don’t necessarily believe that this is all true. I thought it would make an interesting idea for a story, so the Gentry then are these bad ideas that come in you when you’ve messed up your head [laughs], so they come in and start rebuilding because you’ve now made it comfortable for them to recreate and build in their own image. So that, again, that’s one of the big things it’s about, this notion of gentrification coming into places and places that have been seemingly broken down and left to ruin and then rebuilding for them the benefit of your own kind.
Read More: Digging Deep Into 'The Multiversity' With Grant Morrison [Interview] | http://comicsalliance.com/multiversity-interview-grant-morrison/?trackback=tsmclip
>>81014568
and dropped
Paste: The Multiversity #2 comes out next month, concluding the story. I think The Gentry has been my favorite aspect of the book—I know each member is an extreme of various villain archetypes, but they also seem to represent something so much more primal. Are we going to discover more about these characters and what separates them from a character like Darkseid?
Morrison: Oh yeah, you definitely find out a lot more about them, but at the same time I think why they work is because everyone can read them in their own way, and make them represent what they want them to represent. I want to keep that little bit of mystery. The finale pretty much explains who they are, and even in Ultra it’s explained that these are really bad ideas. They’re demon ideas and we incubate them and they form. We can feel them, but we don’t quite know how to display them and what they’re doing. It’s been portrayed that our imaginative space has become degraded. Where once we had Star Trek now we have The Walking Dead. We see our civilization as something that’s basically, ultimately doomed. And maybe a generation ago we saw our civilization as something that would naturally be carried into the stars, and have this fantastic utopian future. So Multiverse is all about that, and Ultra is specifically about the idea that we have impoverished a neighborhood, and once you’ve impoverished a neighborhood then you come in to gentrify it. You’ve made it very comfortable for the monsters to cultivate.
>>81035540
Final Crisis has suddenly become a book everyone can understand. There were people who were forming camps to fight about it. I think people tend to approach my work thinking it’s lot more complex than it is, but most of it’s on the page, and most of it’s an attempt to talk to other comics readers about the stuff we’re into. Particularly these superhero comics, they’re quite hermetic in that sense, in that there are so many other comic writers and so many other people who read comics get excited by them, criticize them or critique them.
At the same time, I’m trying to talk about real things. That’s where the symbolic content comes in, where the Gentry represent all these bad influences, but really each one of the Gentry is kind of a villain archetype taken to the limit. Intellectron is the mastermind taken to the limit. Dame Merciless is the femme fatale taken to the demonic limit. Demogorgunn is the zombie horde taken to the limit, and so on through the rest of them. Lord Broken is the madhouse, Arkham Asylum taken it to the limit. Each of them represents a fairly understandable villain type once you think about it.
So the symbolism becomes, well what do they represent in the real world? For me, they represent forces of nihilism and anti-human hatred, ignorance and greed and stupidity that I see every day. Those aspects of the story, how do you deal with those? How do you communicate those? What happens when there are too many of them in your head and you’re starting to feel sick with it? That’s the symbolic element in the comic, but at the same time I still have to show what happens with Red Racer’s affair with Flashlight [laughs]. I still have to show what happens to President Superman at the end and make sure everyone gets returned to their homes and all the crises are brought to an end satisfactorily.
>>81014741
I hope she's an actual doll and her head is removable.
Otherwise, fuck that tattoo.
>>81034433
Because it's easy to write them. You just have to check tumblr for characterization and add a pinch of "edgy". The only problem with this is that despite the major presence of alt girls on social media, they're not the ones to buy comics. If anything, there's more "Kamalas" among female readers than Harpers and what's-her-name from this issue.
