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Frank Miller was right but no one listened
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Frank Miller was right but no one listened
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>>80987306
i was expecting it to be shit but like, it was actually really good
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>tfw reading this
>tfw seeing those shaky lines
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>>80987433
The only criticism I found to this comic was Islamophobia
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>>80987685
i know right, nut having read it those comments are pretty much sjw shit.

if it were germans no one would give a shit.
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>>80988206
I think it was an intentional throwback to those WW2 propaganda comics
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>>80988230
it was, it became pretty clear when reading it.

Pretty sure Millar even stated that it was
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>>80988206

I thought this was universally hated due to not-batman, not-catwoman and the awful art and writing.

Fuck I can't believe I was around when /co/ supports Frank Miller. Where did everyone go?
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>>80988554
There was a terror attack recently, not surprising people are saying they actually liked this piece of shit in the aftermath of it.
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>>80988230

Yes,
I remember reading Frank Miller saying "What would be a WW2 propaganda comic if it was done nowadays?"

But ppl bitch about everything these days...
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>>80987306
Every time I see this posted I think it's a wolfman punching a mummy.
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>>80988596

You can't deny 4chan has gotten progressively more dumb recently, though.
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>>80988612
Not quite.
It's intentionally propaganda, but it is also pretty serious.
Miller supports the message that the book seems to convey on the surface. He is writing it as a throwback to older propaganda comics, but he also means what he's saying in the book.
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>>80988657
Honestly I feel that way about every website.
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>>80987433
>>80987685
>>80988206
>>80988230
>>80988397
It's happened. /co/ has actually become a fucking parody of itself.

THIS CALLS FOR A CELEBRATION...
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>>80988657
4chan hasn't gotten dumber, you've gotten smarter.
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>>80988842
And we shall celebrate /co/ finally drifting into the mouth of madness...with Holy Terror Storytime.
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>>80988862
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>>80987306
>hurr hurr terrorism is bad
Wow, if only we'd listened
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It was offensive, but Muslims weren't the only ones taking hits in this book, that's what you've gotta remember.

And I'll always love Frank Miller's artwork (pre-cancer)
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>>80988879
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If eurocucks had balls, they'd reimprint Holy Terror now. I bet it'd sell like hotcakes on Germany, Sweden and Belgium
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>>80988879
Why the hell is Batman buttfucking some dude in a gimp mask while grappling across the sky? Is it just the only way he can get off anymore?
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>>80988862

It's become tradition to storytime Holy Terror whenever a major terrorist attack committed by Middle Easterners occurs.
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>>80988926
>dude

But that's a lady
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>>80988906
Comics don't sell like hotcakes
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>>80988862
Please...please stop.
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>>80988896
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>>80988950
>But that's a lady
...really? Or is this like /co/'s usual 'it's not gay if you're doing the fucking' thing?
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>>80988963
never.
it has to be done. like a band aid nice and quick.
But over a hundred pages.
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>>80989002
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>>80988993

It's NOTCatwoman
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>>80988954
Holy Terror isn't like regular comics and there's a silent majority on Europe wanting to kick the religion of peace out of Europe
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>>80989016
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>>80988934
Then it might become a seasonal tradition.
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>>80989053
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>>80989073
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>>80989093
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
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>>80989093
here's your straw (you)
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>>80989093

>I'm offended, censor it

Grow a fucking spine
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>>80989102
I'll be honest. I actually dig the art in this book for the first chunk of it.
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>>80989093
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>>80989021
I went back and looked again. You're fucking with me, right?
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>>80989120
>I actually dig the art in this book

Yeah, it's like Dark Knight Returns meets Sin City
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>>80989120
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>>80989118
But that's a normal muslism reaction

>I'm offended
>Allah Akbar!

Maybe that's why sjws like muslisms so much. They can relate to
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>>80989153
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>>80989144
>>80989144

No man look at that ass>>80989102


I have no reason to lie to you
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>>80989171
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>>80988954
I've never bought a hotcake so I think they sell exactly the same
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>>80989172
There are men with asses like that too, still doesn't prove anything.
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>>80989093
>ordinary Muslims
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>>80989187
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>>80989206
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>>80989206
oh my god i already hate this art so fucking much, it's so scratched up you can hardly see anything but not-catwoman's lite-n-brite sneakers
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>>80989191

read the story then. I have.
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>>80989232
Part of me wishes i had the time and artistic ability to effectively redraw and letter the parts of all these pages so its just batman and catwoman. cos thats clearly what miller wanted and intended but they wouldn't let him do.

And maybe if i go to miller and show him this the horrible fog of cancer will lift off him like that scene when the influence of saruman lifts from king theodin. And he will be strong once more....and finish All star batman and robin the boy wonder.
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>>80989205
worst part is the sjws support the sharia law while the reformists trying to change islam from inside don't receive any help
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>>80989275
>>80989261
If you hate it now....oh man just wait till shit really starts going down and Miller clearly got kinda lazy or short on time.
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>>80989323
Anyone else love the way miller does street level fighting. Particularly kicks. Say what you will about the man and this comic but he knows how action works in a comic.
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>>80989392
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>>80989378
what the hell is notcatwoman doing in the bottom right?
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>>80989413
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It's a good comic
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>>80989053
>>80989073
Say what you will about the comic, the artwork on these pages are great.
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>>80989421
shes spraying to mark her territory obviously
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>>80989448
wait what
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>>80989588
I don't even know what most of the shit on this page is supposed to be.
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>>80989604
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>>80988554
>>80988842
yeahhhhh go to bed tumblr

>>80988596
Kek, i aint even french or american, could care less about that shit
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>>80989623
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>>80988906
pretty sure its been republished a few times, least i always see new copies in my local
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>>80989563
So not only is this comic islamophobic but now it has literal rape right at the start of it
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>>80989665
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Yeah, the only solution to terrorism is torture and blanket judgement, right?

Eat my shit, Frankie, you withered up sack of vomit.
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>>80989636
>Kek, i aint even french or american, could care less about that shit
He was talking about BRUSSELS you DUMBFUCK
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>>80989683
My God, you people cannot comprehend sexuality and lust can you?
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>>80989697
Not that anon but Belgium is France's retarded little brother.
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>>80989687
I love how not batman just instantly goes into 'fight the brown people' mode.

I honestly would love to have been in the room while miller was writing this. Just looking into his thoughts as he did. I honestly believe 9/11 broke his fucking mind. Not joking at all I think it really fucked him up in a permanent way.
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>>80989734
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>>80989694
>the only solution to terrorism is hugs
I can willfully misconstrue an opinion I disagree with too!
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>>80989757
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>>80989683
>rape

Anon, that was consensual. But I guess, expecting you to actually READ it is a bit much. It is quite hard for some folk, I understand.
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>>80989831
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>>80989734
Isn't that the typical cape modus operandis?

>bad guys do bad things
>hero beat bad guys
>profit

It's applying cape morals to real life issues, what comics used to do on the golden age
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>>80989065
>seasonal
we optimistic today
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>>80989187
The Millerspeak begins.

I surprisingly really like this art so far though.
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>>80989694
>>80989734
>Muslims dindu nuffin

Go away, Justin Trudeau.
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>>80989896
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>>80989888
There's a giant distinction between a Muslim and an Islamic terrorist and ignoring it does absolutely nothing to help anyone.
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>all these faggots calling Holy Terror offensive
The /co/mblr meemee is real.
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>>80989917
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>>80989924
Are you one of those people that thinks Islamic State isn't Islamic?
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>>80989038
then they'll watch something on television that reinforces their opinions because that's what morons do
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>>80989937
I think most people are just calling it shit. I think only one fag is actually offended by it.
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>>80989924
Name one
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>>80990004
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>>80989982
But it's actually good
I seriously like it
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>>80989981
Everything on TV is diversity propaganda and muslims dindu nuffin
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>>80989727
If you bite down any harder you're going to chip a molar on that hook.
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>>80990021
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>>80989924
see
>>80989205
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>>80990022
You're not alone. Is it DKR or Ronin? Fuck no.

It's good though.
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>>80990077
OH NO, NOW ITS RAZORS!!!
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>>80989973
Nothing in my post implied that so I don't know why you bother asking unless it's to divert the conversation to dithering about what is the "real" version of a religion, which in itself is an abstract concept with no real way of definition.

But frankly in my opinion it's less useful to focus on the "Islamic" part of ISIS than it is the "Iraq and Syria" part. I feel anyone's attempt to pretend the Islamic part is the most relevant one is only trying to distract us from the situation that led to ISIS's actions in the first place.
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Why you gotta do this to people anon.
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>>80990115
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>>80990121
>have you ever like what you used to what: the post
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>>80989727
>>80989788
>Not knowing that was bait
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>>80990152
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>>80988230
It's not as funny as those though.
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>>80990089
So? Muslims make up a giant majority of the whole world. A giant majority of the whole world have conservative and violent values. Of course there's going to be an overlap. But I don't see you rallying against all those street shitters in India who burn their girls alive.
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>>80990188
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>>80990121
"Iraq and Syria" just refers to where they are, how is that more significant than the "Islamic"part?

>>80990197
Because Hindus aren't on a global warpath with naive liberals trying to make up excuses for them.
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Yo /co/, here's the deal: I've never read anything drawn by Frank Miller up until today. I always figured he was overrated as hell and I didn't care for the bits of art I've seen that he drew. But the art for this so far has been fantastic.

Where do I start with Frank Miller's actually good works?
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>>80990162
No, that post makes perfect sense. If you can't understand that it's referring to the instability of the region from which terrorism comes from then that's your problem.
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>>80989924
you meant "the muslims", not "a muslim"
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>>80990188
This comic is, admittedly, pretty bad.

But damn me if that's not a great reaction image.
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>>80990197
>But I don't see you rallying against all those street shitters in India
They keep their shit in their own streets.
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>>80990197
The Indians keep it in their country

They don't go to other continents and burn people alive
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>>80990233
>Because Hindus aren't on a global warpath with naive liberals trying to make up excuses for them.
Actually this stupid. Actually discounts 1 billion ignorant shitters with nukes because he's such a cum-gargling kool-aid drinker he'd rather stigginit to liberals.
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>>80990121
ISIS is not the only group of Muslims acting like Muslims.

Take a look at African countries, Pakistan, and Afganistan.
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>>80990233
>"Iraq and Syria" just refers to where they are, how is that more significant than the "Islamic"part?
Do you know anything about the very recent history of those countries.

Because it's starting to sound like you haven't done enough reading on events that have happened in what I ASSUME is your lifetime.

>>80990233
>Because Hindus aren't on a global warpath with naive liberals trying to make up excuses for them.
Neither are a lot of those Muslims who stone their kids, they're just some village people in Bosnia or whatever.

This isn't about making excuses. This is about understanding your enemy.
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>>80990197
those street shitters don't come here and suicide bomb large gatherings of innocent people. the come here and run small business and assimilate.
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>>80990237
The dark knight returns (obvious)
Ronin (my personal fav)
Sin City
300
big guy & rusty
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>>80990246
It makes sense only if you're incapable of critical thinking
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>>80990237
His Daredevil is my personal favorite.
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>>80990275
You sound mad
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>>80990284
I still can't take Boko no Haram seriously because of that name.
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>>80990275
Calm down, Ahmed. Don't you have a sister to circumsize?
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>>80990303
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>>80990270
That's not what the British have been telling people. Maybe you should listen to them before it's too late.
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>>80989848
>Miller makes the hot Middle-Eastern girl the bomber
Way to fuck up, Frank.
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>>80989734
because its so differnt to spiderman just going to catch a bank robber or something then
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>>80990305
Sounds like you're just ignorant to recent world events, mate. Time to study up on the Middle East and American intervention.
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>>80990348
I kinda love these next three pages.
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>>80990349
The British should worry more about the Pakistanis raping little boys and girls in their backyard than what Indians are doing thousands of miles away
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>>80990299
If it was just a case of regional tensions, then why is ISIS so hellbent on spreading globally?

>>80990299
And "Ordinary Muslims" in England kidnapped and rapped children while the government and the police looked the other way. Liberal 'tolerance" is killing the West.
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>>80990394
Go back to russia, commie
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>>80990411
Indians, Paki, what's the difference? They're both immigrants with terrible values.
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>>80990237
anything desu but his early batman stuff wouldnt be a bad place to start.

plus his daredevil and elektra spinoff
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>>80990443
Not batman has big adorable kitty kat eyes.
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>>80988862
nice, thanks m8
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>>80990443
>>80990420
>>80990410
Yeah, they're pretty good. A twist to the typical Miller faces page
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>>80990237
Martha Washington saga
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>>80990496
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>>80990436
One group follows the law when they immigrate; they become everything but shopkeepers to doctors and lawyers

The other group lives in ghettos, rapes children, sympathizes with terrorists and plays the race card to get away with it all

That's the difference

I don't even know where you live but here in the states I'd take Indian immigrants over Pakis any day of the week
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>>80988634
I have never read the comic, I'm not offended by what I can gauge by its content, but THIS is the comic I want to read now.
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>>80990416
>If it was just a case of regional tensions, then why is ISIS so hellbent on spreading globally?
That's like asking, "If the Third Reich was only created because of the end of the first World War, then why did they insist on taking over the world"?

Because they're evil motherfuckers. But ignoring the circumstances behind why they're evil motherfuckers just risks you going for a "solution" that does nothing but create more of them. ISIS used to be a part of Al-Qaeda that attacked anti-American factions in the region, to the point where Bin Ladin couldn't even believe they exist, for fuck's sake. Now look what they're doing.
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>>80990522
*everything from
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>>80990512
Oh god I absolutely love not commissioner gordons walk on this page.
He looks like hes goose stepping at forty miles an hour down the freeway.
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>>80990432
You might as well read up on Russian intervention too, that way you can figure out why their planes keep getting attacked.

You DO know hundreds of Russians keep dying in plane attacks, right?

>>80990522
Sounds like you've been brainwashed by the pro-Indian lobby.
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>>80990556
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>>80990537
And you seem to be overlooking the fact that Islam is inherently violent and incompatible with the west. There's a reason you never see the Mormons doing shit like this.
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>>80990496
That's a big shoe.
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>>80990577
>You DO know hundreds of Russians keep dying in plane attacks, right?
Not enough IMO
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>>80990581
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>>80990577
Hey if they were burning people alive when they come here I'd want them gone

But they keep that shit on the other side of the world where it belongs, so I don't care

That's how you wind up with annoying SJW's like Aziz Ansari, because they assimilate to liberal Western values too much
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>>80990599
UUUU
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>>80990614
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>>80990653
>that Moore

I laugh forever
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>>80990653
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>>80990653
pretty cute sheik
also the beard on that muslim on the bottom left looks like pubes
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>>80990410
>>80990420
>>80990443
Now I'm having flashbacks of reading the last issue of Ultimate End wich gave me flashbacks of reading this comics.
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>>80990596
>And you seem to be overlooking the fact that Islam is inherently violent and incompatible with the west.
Islam is just a religion that's as malleable as any other religion in the whole world. You're a fool for thinking otherwise.

>There's a reason you never see the Mormons doing shit like this.
Because they're a small sect from fucking Utah? Yeah no shit it's Utah. They don't have a reason to attack anyone. It's got nothing to do with Mormons or not Mormons, anyone originating from Utah's not going to do the same shit as a group from fucking Syria.
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>this entire thread

Janitors are sleeping, I see.
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>>80990674
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>>80990630
>Hey if they were burning people alive when they come here I'd want them gone
Then get to wanting mate because they've been lighting those matches for a while.

Or are those "isolated cases" just because you like them?
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>>80990328
>You sound mad

That's not a retort, senpai.
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>>80990685
>Islam is just a religion that's as malleable as any other religion in the whole world. You're a fool for thinking otherwise.

You can't seriously believe that every religious ideology is the same.
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>>80990700
storytiming a comic is against a rules?
also fuck you for for posting pic in a storytime thread, you swine
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>>80990717
News to me
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>>80990705
Thats actually a pretty boss fucking image.
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>>80990685
It's built into Islam itself. Mohammad told his followers to kill non-believers. Jesus didn't.

Mormons don't kill anyone because they don't have violent beliefs.
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>>80990736
I wouldn't be surprised if he thinks that christianity is even more evil than islam
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>>80990737
In his defense I kinda hijacked a preexisting thread with this shit. but fuck it i'm having a ball and loving all the folks gnashing their teeth and pissing blood on each other.
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Hey storytimer, After holy terror I can storytime "infidel"
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>>80990737
/pol/ really does need to leave though.
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>>80990748
>Mohammad told his followers to kill non-believers.
No, he didn't. Stop lying.
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>>80990700
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>>80990736
Religions redefine themselves literally all of the time. No religion is immune to this except by being incredibly small and organized, which Islam is not, otherwise they would not be fighting each other over this shit.

And it's basic knowledge that religion is basically just propaganda for the underlying regional conflict. It's never just, "Kill the infidels because Allah said so" it's "Kill the infidels because Allah said so, and also the American soldiers will rape all of our women" (which is a surprisingly common tagline in ISIS propaganda, they don't want you touching their girls at all).
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>>80990776
don't defend an uber-faggot
comicbook is a comicbook, and if someone doesn't like the topic, he can go fuck himself
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>>80990776
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>>80990783
>everyone who disagrees with me is /pol/
THEN LEAVE, you pol-obsessed maniac
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>>80990791
>Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority: their abode will be the Fire: And evil is the home of the wrong-doers

>They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their rank.

>Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the zakat then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

>Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the zakat with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
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>>80990821
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>Holy Terror 2: Intergalactic Islam
>It's terrorism IN SPACE
>Also a crossover with 300 involving time travel because fuck it, why not

Would you read it, /co/?

>>80990303
>Ronin
>favorite

My nigga
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>>80990806
Practically every other religion has evolved with the times.

Islam, at best, hasn't. It is uniquely horrible.
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>>80990791
Oh boy.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

>>80990806
Yet Islam has remained consistently violent.
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>>80990906
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>>80990858
>Islam, at best, hasn't. It is uniquely horrible.
Islam among middle and upper class people in countries like Egypt is completely different from Islam in places like Syria. Neither of them is the "real Islam" because no one religion is more "real" than the other. How religion is practiced is the only thing that actually matters, and it differs from place to place, from economic strata to economic strata.
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>>80990927
really?
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>>80990950
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>>80990748
> There's a reason you never see the Mormons doing shit like this.
>Mormons don't kill anyone because they don't have violent beliefs.

kek

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_massacre
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>>80990980
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>>80990886
>Yet Islam has remained consistently violent.

just like chirsitianity
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>>80991024
Damn them all to hell.
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>>80990992
The Mormons had been attacked and kicked out of settlements all over the US. They were waging a defensive war at that point.
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>>80990737
>also fuck you for for posting pic in a storytime thread, you swine

And fuck you for leaving your containment board, /pol/tard
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>>80990992
>1857
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>>80989278
>sjws support sharia

whats are you even talking about
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>>80990931
False, see Saudi Arabia.

Wealthiest Muslim country, and their practices are indistinguishable from those of ISIS.

Islam is horrible no matter where it's practiced.
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>>80989093
Because people who are offended are more important than the people their co-religionists kill whenever they get a chance.
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>>80991064
Oh making excuses for them are we?

They killed over a hundred people but it's okay because they dindu nuthin.
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>>80991056
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>>80991064
>>80991072
topest kek
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>>80991052
Yeah, those Assyrian Christians defending themselves against ISIS sure are violent. And how about that blood-thirsty Pope Francis telling Catholics to behead all infidels?
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>>80990685
Islam also stipulates that apostates are to be executed, beaning if you are born into a Muslim family and don't drink the Kool-Aid, they are obligated to murder you. I find all religious institutions to be flawed; they have excused mountains of corpses in the past. Islam is merely the one that hasn't had power wrestled from the grip of their clerics yet.
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>>80991052
gr8 b8 m8
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>>80991101
Id like to think the 'and then batman begins blowing all the brownies dirty heathen brains out' was that turning point when DC went 'yeah no, you can't make a batman comic where he does this'.
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>>80991100
Mormons settled in Utah and wanted to keep to themselves and be left alone. It's not their fault the government kept agitating them.
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>>80991112
the ones dong witch burnings in Africa are making up for it with help of funding from you guys
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>>80991156
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>>80991085
>Wealthiest Muslim country
Are you remotely implying that the wealth is spread evenly across the nation in any way whatsoever because buddy I am laffin. That wealth is meaningless if only a handful of people have it. Saudi Arabia is practically the worst country you could have chosen.

Maybe think of Jordan, or Lebanon. Those would have been more pertinent examples of countries that are doing well while being fairly progressive. Lebanon even beat America to the punch on legalizing gay marriage. Now that's embarrassing.
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>>80991024
>and they've got stinger missiles!
How do you know that, not-Batman?
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Man, this thread sucks. /pol/ really needs to take it's garbage back.
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>>80991163
not the children's fault for being 8 years old either
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>>80991178
Oh it just gets so ridiculous.
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>>80991131
>All religions are the same

Because Secular utopias have worked out so well.
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>>80991068
a very quick response, retard
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>>80991068
not your anon but STOP POSTING IMAGES IN A STORYTIME FAGGOT.
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>>80991205
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>>80991164
Because the remnants of Primitive African religion are still strong in those areas.
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>>80991209
Estonia's doing pretty gud thanks for asking
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>>80991131
>Islam is merely the one that hasn't had power wrestled from the grip of their clerics yet.
Clerics are like one of the easiest people for Muslims to ignore. In Egypt clerics who issue fatwahs to ban music or keep women from working are laughed at, even if he is "technically" correct by some interpretation of the Quran.

If you think there's any uniformity among a whole third of the world population without regard for the differences in their origins then you're just retarded.
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>>80991231
I honestly love that first panel here.
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Islam is cancer and should be banned but this comic was shit

t.former muzzy
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>>80990837
There's a thing that called context.

What you quoted was about the non believers in Makkah who tortured and killed musilims just because they believed in Allah.

Allah give the premation to kill only for Muslims to defend themselves and other Muslims from enemies.

Allah also said to not befriend people who attack Islam and hurt Muslims, but it's not forbidden to befriend who don't.
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>>80991223
a very slow response, retard
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>>80991241
yes and so priests telling them to burn devil worshipers isn't treated like the bullshit it should be
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>>80991190

SEE
>>80991229
YOU FAG
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>>80991209
I don't get it, you say that with a sarcastic tone yet it's patently true.
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>>80991282
still quicker than yours, retard
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>>80991179
>Lebanon
>what is Hezbollah
also, they're barely half muslim, which goes to show the less Muslims you have in your country, the better.
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>/pol/ seeping into /co/ on the regular now

Frank Miller was always a hack anyway.
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>>80991282
YOU TOO.STOP THAT SHIT
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>>80991296
>The Soviet Union Never happened
>Mao's regime never happened
>North Korea never happened
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Shut the fuck up and let the guy storytime the comic, you fucking faggots.
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>>80991315
>regular
go back to tumblr, where you belong anyway
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>>80991310
Nope, far too slow, retard. You need to catch up.

Remain mad.
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