Someone explain the Retcon to me. How did it cause John to free himself from the timeline?
>>80982220
i dont think anyone really knows how or why that thing works the way it does
>>80982220
It's the powers of light, breath, time and space amplified by the infinite number of Beta Kids trapped inside the house Juju.
>>80982220
Everyone has a predestined path through the cosmos. Rose can scry parts of these paths, and the dream clouds can also show you bits and pieces. When John accepted the weapon's curse it was implied to sever his link to his timeline and let him exist as his own personal entity from that point on. He wouldn't have a determined future anymore, and he also couldn't go Marty McFly and change his own past to affect himself and change his own present.
John could've gone back and killed his past self as a baby and he still would've continued to exist, and paradox space would've had to just suck up and take the temporal paradox like the bitch he made it.
>>80982220
It's just a dues ex machina Hussie constructed because he wrote himself into a corner, don't think too hard about it because Hussie surely didn't.
It allows John to change the timeline without dooming it, because of Reasons.Or the timeline wherein John retcons things was the alpha timeline all along and it's a ruse.
>>80982220
Hussie doesn't have good ideas anymore
>>80982451
Fuckin` based.
>>80982804
He used it all on Undertale
>>80982898
Hussie didn't work on that
>>80982898
>undermeme
>>80983029
Every fucking thread.
>>80982579
>It's just a dues ex machina Hussie constructed because he wrote himself into a corner
It's very clear the Retcon was planned far ahead and it make sense if you want a good end, seeing that normally, the mainline timeline lead to Lord English's victory. Only a Retcon power would allow to defeat him.
>>80983189
>It's very clear the Retcon was planned far ahead
WHO FUCKING HOYP FOR DAVEKAT????
>>80983359
Yes it was.
Since at least TavriskaSprite blew up. Or even earlier aas it is the only way to defeat LE.
>>80983516
>implying it won't be DaveMayor.
>>80983029
>aromantic demisexual
WHAT
how would that even WORK?
>>80983637
Fuck half the time
Never fall in love.
>>80983029
[ ] like dick
[ ] like pussy
[ ] like both
[ ] don't like either
Not fucking hard.
>>80983690
So is this the decidedly "Friends-with-benefits only" sexual orientation?
>>80983690
Anon, demisexual means you're only sexually attracted to those you're romantically attracted to.
It's fancy for bisexual with string attached.
is this /hsg/
>>80983788
At this point, yes.
Wonder if the mods will allow the thread to be named a general when Hussie update again.
>>80983029
I think I cast Aroflux in a JRPG once.
>>80982220
every single time
>>80983788
Werent /hsg/ no longer allowed?
>>80983788
why is /hsg/ not allowed
>>80984251
the amount of cancer it had was so bad that even now after it's been semi revived as /hst/ if you put the word "general" anywhere in the OP the mods almost insta trash it.
>>80983788
Can't be, where are the blogging tripfags?
>>80984409
>now after it's been semi revived as /hst/
> the mods almost insta trash it.
Uh?...
How do you Trash what is already in the Trash?
which homestuck kids is most likely to blow up and airport?
>>80984486
fuck if i know
>>80984488
yes
>>80984488
Eridan.
>>80984605
FUCK OFF
is there a chart somewhere that helps explains the retcons
All of the beta kids souls are in there, he absorbed their powers (time,space,light and breath) and dislocated himself from any timeline. He can now change eventes without at will.
>>80984605
KILL 8RSELF!!!!!!!!
>>80985319
>kill aterself
>>80985422
>disrespecting 8rkin people
>>80983788
More or less. Less Eri though
Bowman has arrived.
What do you guys think about god tier jammies? Too barebones? I like them because they're simple enough to scale to most humanoid species while still retaining their iconic look.
>>80985963
bowman is shit and so is his music
quit posting him
>>80986117
you're shit and so is your music
quit posting
>>80986117
that was very rude anon
>>80982579
>>80982804
>>80983359
Go back to your tumblr's and bitch harder about why you think Homestuck is bad.
>>80986266
Tumblr likes Homestuck. /hst/ is for bitching.
>>80983029
Nothing mystifies me quite like the Undertale fanbase.
Give me back my teens in gray facepaint, at least I can understand that.
Anybody else think John is gonna end up retconning the current timeline?
Who is the R. Mika of Homestuck?
>>80986638
>Think
Nah. It's not happening, it would lose its novelty.But I wish it could happen. Hard to imagine the comic falling lower than it has.
so I thought I'd mess around with SFM this morning. first try at getting anything done.
physics are a little floaty but I think I did alright
>>80982220
That thing is a literal plothole, part of skull kid's Ultimate Reward (or so he says).
>>80987287
You weren't paying attention. Caliborn says that after he used it once it changed in nature and he could never use it again, which is why he sealed it away deep within the Furthest Ring with the power of the Ring of Void. After that it could only be used one more time, as a weapon against him. John absorbing the powers of the sealed souls was a prelude to both its first and second functions.
>>80987449
Why do these people always make the characters look hideous?
I have no problem with diversity but at least don't give your characters dicks for noses along with plastic surgery lips.
>>80987569
Because the people drawing them are usually ugly as fuck and want to pretend they're not.
>>80987569
fuck western standards of beauty? uwu
>>80987500
And you take what he said at face value.
>>80987500
Pretty sure Aranea said the same thing about the weapon, and we all know Serkets are always right.
>>80987705
meant for >>80987648
>>80987705
>Serkets
>right
>Vriska assumes that Kanaya had a crush on Tavros
>>80987705
It's like how she said granting unconditional immortality was supposed to be outside the authority of a denizen. There's a big piece of the puzzle Aranea was missing.
REWRITE WHEN?
>>80988650
only if the end is shit
>>80983788
the TERM, anon,
is HSG
you uncultured swine
>>80988756
>if
>>80988835
Sorry bro, Andrew said the ending had been planned at least since 2013
>>80982451
This is how it was supposed to work, but because Hussie is a hack, it turns out even the retcons were predestined after all and aren't actually much different than regular time travel. See: John being visited by his future self, the pre-retcon characters still existing as ghosts, Terezi remembering pre-retcon events. It's all just the same as when Dave goes back in time to undo a doomed timeline.
>>80988980
Yeah, just like how Andrew said he wouldn't do anything stupid, right?
>>80989025
That's why I said if instead of never
is caliborn the villain because he's sexist and rude?
>>80989685
if that were true, gamebro would be the OG villain.
wait a second...
>he's green
>>80989024
The save states in PS left torsos lying around. This kind of BS is irresistible to that guy.
>>80989820
>PS
you mean paradox space (the concept), paradox space (the side comic), or problem sleuth
everything is too complicated
>>80989024
uhhh, paradox space skaia magic via the felt. i aint gotta explain shitI unironically want john to be hit by the crowbar and ruin any chances of salvation for the timeline
>>80989685
no, caliborn is sexist and rude because he's the villain
>>80989872
He means Problem Sleuth, where inputting save state codes reverted the game to different points in time, but still somehow duplicated Ace Dick.
But there's literary zero problems with more Ace Dicks running around, and PS isn't as hard about its rules as Homestuck is.
>>80989685
Yes
It's so you can easily tell he's the bad guy. Hussie has been taking writing lessons from the guys who write Agent Carter
>>80989685
Caliborn is "allowed" to be sexist and rude due to being designated as a villain.
HEIL KATNEP
PURGE DAVEKAT AND KAREZI
>>80989912
>John getting hit by Crowbar
Oh my god, now I want to see that too. Weird things would definitely happen and fuck shit up, that's for sure.
>>80990087
I wish the other characters said awful shit from time to time again. The only other one who does is Vriska, and that's just here to fuel her "lol, controversy" shit-shtick.
It's especially painful when you take the recent "oh no Calliope u r so pretty"-esque crap into consideration.
Thoughts on Tavrisoleriterezepetamzeequiuradikarnayaferi Vantamporerketaryamakarmegicapeixahhakeijonitramyrope?
>>80990409
Better than most fantrolls.
But not much better.
>>80990087
>>80990386
I'm willing to be actual sjws are less polite to each other than homestuck characters are.
At least with real people, their personalities aren't as one-dimensional as hussie's characters.
>>80990409
>d --> :33 < t)(3 qu11ck 8r0wwn f0% jump2 0vv3r t)(3 l4zy d0g
What an awful quirk.
>>80987569
>>80987449
>Why do these people always make the characters look hideous?
It's usually an attempt to avoid sameface (often they still have sameface - it's just a fuck ugly face) and drawing too anime-esque. But they end up with characters with bad designs and colour palettes. They add in extra 'flaws' to the designs until they look ridiculous, but ignore the fact that the original designs had their own flaws (at least this artist bothers to add in buck teeth).
You can draw characters to look different and even racially diverse without making them look diseased (dave looks like he's got an allergic reaction) or 20 years older than they should look.
>>80990738
>Combining all the trolls' quirks together just creates leetspeak
>It's still legible
kek
>>80990386
>>80989912
If this happens I will forever think Hussie is a genius and will become an unironic fanboy. It's just great.
Note that the picture is an example of a better diverse fanart (in terms of race and character design), since the characters look like teenagers and not 30 year old men, and don't have those nasty washed out skintones that a whole lot of tumblr fanart has.
John's weird rectangle face is pretty dumb though.
>>80990836
>>80990741
This picture, that is.
>>80990836
>better diverse fanart
>jade with hairs everywhere and green ears and hair
>john with blue hair
>I don't know what hte fuck a slimer is
>>80987449
>>80990741
Example of washed out skin tones.
>>80990836
They go fucking overboard. Hussie might be an idiot now but at least he understands how to make the characters look simple yet still distinct. Even their later clothes were pretty uncomplicated.
![Jade[420].png](https://i.imgur.com/NNvCNT3.png "Jade[420].png")
>>80987449
>>80990741
poor Jade
>>80991044
Dave and Karkat actually get the worst treatment
Is there a fan adventure where the players are Green Slime Ghost, Defaced Squiddle, Record, Bec, Problem Sleuth Monster, Lord English, Vodka Mutini, and Hat?
>>80991122
That's because Davekat shippers are the biggest cancer in the fandom
>mfw the games will never stopthe games being homestuck
>>80991226
Someone probably started one in 2012, promised weekly updates which turned to monthly and then 'when I feel like it' after 10 pages were uploaded and then disappeared off the internet a year later.
A young symbol floats in his room. It just so happens that today is this young symbol's birthday. Though this premise makes no sense, it's still better than Act 6 Act 6.
>>80982220
>free
>FREEDOM
you're triggering me
>>80991532
Oh hey, I remember this comic. It's the one that used to update 8 months ago, right?
I remember it had a reputation for updating very frequently - even multiple times a day at some points. So often that people would sit around and await an update to be announced by fellow anons in a sort of general thread.
What's new?
>>80991897
I know you're being ironic but shit all apparently. I left after the gigapause started and came back now once I heard it was ending. Just a couple of weeks until I finally get closure on my teenage obsession.
>>80992038
Hussie's obsession with layers of irony have stripped all of mine from me
>>80983359
I'd argue it was, actually. A lot of Homestuck comes from Andrew's pardy Harry Potter Novel: Wizardy Herbert. Lord English is in a lot of ways a version of Voldermort. And there were concepts pretty similar to the retcon nonsense in Wizardy Herbert.
>>80989685
No, he is sexist and rude because it's funny.
>>80992232
I still haven't read Wizardy herbert.
>>80990929
>nobody ever points of the brilliance of rose's shirt in that image
>>80992083
The way Homestuck irony works is like this:
You start straight up mocking the thing.
Then you like it ironically.
But you get so into the ironic persona it wraps around to you actually liking it.
But it isn't the same as unironically liking the thing. It's a different sort of appreciation altogether. It isn't straight up ironic either. It exists somewhere between those concepts.
Eventually a fourth level is reached where you are aware of the fact that you are way too into irony. Then a fifth where you are aware of this, then a sixth, etc..
>>80992447
it's pretty good
>tfw no Carmen and Herbert nerding out about Vera Valeria
>>80993355
It was kind of neat. To bad it will never be finished.
>>80992759
All the layers of irony and meta-discussion within Homestuck have left me greatly appreciating the straightforward stuff more, like John and Caliborn taking to being a hero and villain respectively. People like Dave and Rose overanalyze and pick apart every single thing so much they never get anything done and can't shut up.
I don't even care that John's flatter than a matte paint and Caliborn's an actual retard, they actually get shit done without turning it into a postmodernist lecture.
masterpiece
>>80994540
>someone is mad enough about this to post it in every thread
>>80991897
He got a girlfriend and the update rate plummeted. Go figure.
>>80994923
>not being mad as fuck that Karezi got sunk
>>80995013
>caring about relationships
I just wanted to see SBURB
>>80994540
Touching moment indeed. And in take a further value with Terezi: Remember.
>>80995239
Same
>>80995013
>Being idiot enough to think Kraezi got sunk.
GO Terezi wrote this specifically so that Terezi would focus on saving everyone's ass, including Karkat. It was a difficult move to do for her.
But with Terezi: Remember she now got all her feeling back.
Not to mention that in the end, it didn't alter any of their interactions.
>>80995239
same, set to bowman music preferably
>>80995239
this desu senpai
>>80995386
>she would focus on saving everyone's ass
Nigga, she should have just sent John to the Vriska confrontation
And post-retcon Karezi is dumb as fuck
>>80995239
I just want to get an actual Denizen dialogue scene and some sweet Fraymotifs during these last fights. Act 5 solidified that Homestuck invented Sburb just to subvert everything about it.
>>80995467
>Nigga, she should have just sent John to the Vriska confrontation
Terezi also needed to become Vriska's moiral to keep her on track.
>And post-retcon Karezi is dumb as fuck
It's not. Most of their interaction are the same, seeing that none of the vistagram imply any change to that.
>>80995559
>I just want to get an actual Denizen dialogue scene
We have got several so far.
they speak a language only the player of their planet can understand, but we have seen the content of their exchange several times.
>Hey Terezi, I get it! Guys are the real problem in your life! Anyway I'm bringing Vriska back now like you told me.
>GEE THANKS JOHN, THIS IS DEFINITELY GOING TO FIX EVERYTHING
>:D
> >:]
>I DIDNT KILL VRISKA WHY AM I SUCH AN EMOTIONALLY DRAINED WRECK
>OH RIGHT
>KARKAT
>OR DAVE
>SOMEHOW
>>80995702
That's not John, that was Terezi meddling with herself.
And she is an emotional wreck because she is a teenagers with huge responsibilities.
>>80995702
>>I DIDNT KILL VRISKA WHY AM I SUCH AN EMOTIONALLY DRAINED WRECK
Because she was about too and would have if it wasn't for John.
>>80995702
>no 1's, 3's, or 4's
YOUR ROL3PL4Y B4DG3. H4ND 1T OV3R.
>:[
>>80995386
>She got all her feeling back
And the reason why the pre-retcon version didn't want her to be with Karkat.
But who the fuck am I kidding, endgame is going to be Davekat or Karezi anyway.
>>80995696
I'm aware, I want one actual meaningful on-screen conversation with them, not "oh well he told me some stuff."
>>80995832
>meddling with herself.
ew
>>80995914
Maybe Karkat was pretending to be her
>>80995965
>And the reason why the pre-retcon version didn't want her to be with Karkat.
The reason she didn't want to be with Karkat was so she would focus on moiraling Vriska so Karkat wouldn't fucking die. Now she know the truth and also remember how she felt when she saw him die.
>>80995978
>I want one actual meaningful on-screen conversation
You actually got that with Caliborn's Denizen? You actually hear it talking.
Actually having a conversation you can understand would be breaking Sburb rules.
>>80996162
>she didn't want to be with Karkat
They stopped being a couple when she chatted and flirted with Dave during Act 5 Act 2.
I dunno how Karezi fanboys even come up with bullshit theories. It's like arguing with a crackshipper, except Hussie forced that ship hard with Terezi's bullshit color scheme, her red shit obsession, ancestry bullshit, bec noir trophy symbolism bullshit and have every fucking asshole talk about their relationship.
>>80983029
GO!Karkat deserves the Terezibowl
fuck alpha!Karkat
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=002657
>>80996582
That looks more like Lil' Cal.
In any case, haha, good luck Radiation.
>>80995013
Im sure its supposed to be about Gamzee, but post retcon Terezi didnt understand until then
>>80996732
You may be on to something there.
Who likes it?
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=002565
>>80992560
I've literally never noticed it and im the guy that posts it in every other thread
>>80990976
What's wrong with this picture exactly? Jade's skin color doesn't look unnatural to me.
>>80999524
sex doll face
>>80997056
>>80986937
late reply but nice job anon
>Play Papers, Please
>This happens
Any other games reference homestuck?
as someone who has been reading for as long as homestuck expert I just now noticed snoop in this page
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003593
>>81000343
>>81000343
Starbound
>>81000712
I remember that page.
It's super hard to get jokes like that reading archival, but serially stuff like that sticks out like a sore thumb, it's everywhere.
Really this comic was always better the earlier you read it, there's a lot of nuance you end up missing otherwise, like most of the alchemy binges happening on Christmas.
>get [S] Rose and Dave: Shut up and jam.
>wait what derse dreamers is on here?
>prospit & derse came out FIVE YEARS AGO in 2011
I guess it was sneaked onto this page before it made its way into a full album
>>80994540
>>80995702
>when she wrote "You don't need him" she was referring to Gamzee
>Egbert fucked it up by making her think it was about Karkat and Dave
>>80989765
Holy shit
>>81001113
No, it actually was put on there after the album was released. Hussie went back and replaced one of the songs with it for whatever reason.
>>81001377
why would it be about gamzee
bringing vriska back and stopping her from getting tricked by gamzee already prevented her from getting into that relationship
it happened immediately after her conversation with karkat
it was about karezi stop trying to pretend otherwise
>>81001802
Gamzee was the one that got her all fucked up in the first place. Dave and Karezi were nothing but nice and helpful to her, even if they were idiots.
>>81001842
yeah but they made her feel bad :( so they had to go
>>81001860
I guess we'll just see what she actually meant when the update comes, since she remembers everything from the GO timeline
>>81001785
All the songs on that page were replaced due to *mishaps*. Actually I think Hussie putting Bill Bolin's WIP songs on there originally was what triggered his meltdown.
>>80983788
hsg is over at >>>/vg/136112338
The Weapon enables its user to break one of the most basic rules of paradox space: You Cannot Ever Change A Timeline. It is, quite literally, a Plot Hole.
>>81001996
That was what always confused me. I mean if he was worried about "but theyre WIP!" they're on daves beat machine so you can pretty easily infer they're WIP in comic canon.
Wasn't he also the guy that did that fucking awesome dave remix and got mad when people thought it was ironically bad?
>>80987705
>>80987763
>confusing a foolish, tryhard Vriska with a wise, sensual Aranea
Please. Do not even, kid. Respect yourself.
Why is Despot considered an Upward Movement remix? It's a really good song but they don't sound similar at all.
>>80990976
>that Jade skimpy outfit
Jesus fucking Christopher in a fuckbucket. Want.
>>81002187
aranea is no better than vriska
>>80983069
hoyl christ that is some fien humor
>>81001785
>>81001996
That doesn't explain it enough, the Bolin songs got replaced quickly. One of the songs in the second version of Rose and Dave: Shut up and jam was by a different guy who apparently did something improper so there was a second replacement of that one song.
>>81002792
She's sexier. And more interesting and less over-prefered by the author.
I'd say that's enough already, brah.
>>81003348
>aranea
>interesting
>>80995645
Except that Karkat was too busy fucking Dave in the ass to have feelings for Terezi anymore.
>>80996326
>bec noir trophy symbolism bullshit
Explain? I went back to that page but I'm not seeing the symbolism.
>>81004518
I think hes talking about when Terezi saw the timeline where she let vriska go and bec noir dropped their bodies together with their blood mixing and all that
>>81004518
They're talking about this and a few pages after it where it's shown to be a replay of an event in another doomed timeline.
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005713
>>81004696
>>81004763
Okay, that makes way more sense considering I was thinking about this page and trying for the life of me to see the ship connotations.
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005449
>>81004763
God, I'm still pissed about the retcon. Terezi showing Vriska her stabs was the ultimate culmination of both their character arcs, and now it's fucking undone.
>>81005203
A bunch of stuff got undone for no reason, in the process shafting and writing out quite a few characters. Yet events for some reason largely ended up the same, even though logically they shouldn't given how far back John retconned things.
>>80991044
At least there's some okay brown Jades.
Both in art and in real life.
>>81006155
Are there even any Homestuck cosplayers left? Especially ones that would be willing to engage in filthy consex? Asking for a friend.
>>81003075
What a cursed page.
>>81007300
Depends on what character you're out to seduce
None of John's retcon powers made sense.
The rule that "it wouldn't create a new alpha timeline just overwrite the old one" was proven untrue when (Vriska) still survived for some reason.
Terezi not telling him to bring back the rest of her "friends" made no sense.
Terezi is a self-centered, selfish character who deserves Gamzee. Their relationship was mutually abusive.
DaveKat is an awful ship especially when neither character acts like themselves.
The idea that Hussie could imply that Karkat acted like a completely different person until he was back on panel before devolving in to a "vintage Karkat shitfit" shows how weak of a writer he is.
Davepetasprite is probably the worst thing this comic has produced and just show's Hussie's contempt for what his fans want.
2014-present Homestuck is shit.
Hussie clearly doesn't care.
Even if it ends in 3 weeks why even bother.
>>81007300
https://www.tumblr.com/tagged/nudestuck
>>80982220
glitch
>>80994540
>>80995013
>>81001943
>>81007778
Regards from Hussie
>>81007827
>most of the latest stuff okay Jades
Oh good
>>81007778
>Davepetasprite is probably the worst thing this comic has produced and just show's Hussie's contempt for what his fans want.
Are you joking? Davepeta is the most blatant fucking fanbase pandering we've seen YET. "Their" a walking fucking gender politics mouthpiece, for fucks sake.
>>81007889
I meant for fans of the comic, not the culture the fans are a part of. As far as fans go he took two fan favorites that pretty much everyone wanted to see more of and not only took dedicated time to tear one of them apart, but subsequently permanently fused them and all incarnations of them together. No more Nepeta, no more Davesprite
>>81007857
Don't load me in with fucking Karezi shippers.
KatNep is the one true path.
>>81008682
I think you're wrong about davepetasprite. No one gave a shit about nepeta who was worth anything.
I'm holding out hope the davekat bullshit was just hussie trying to desperate hook back in those awful tumblr fans that bought copious amounts of merch and plans on playing it off as a joke at the end.
My ideal ending for homestuck is for him to end it all on a shitty joke without resolving most of the plot threads. Theres no way he can make a 100% satisfying ending so I'd be most happy with a big fuck you as the ending.
>>81007778
Davepeta is just a distraction that came between a terrible timing butxes going to die anyway.
>rereading
>almost finished hivebent
>didn't notice a single arm
Did AH really add them? I noticed some (all?) of the oil, and john appearing behind vriska when scratch punishes her, but that's it.
>>81009995
Many of them are well hidden. There's that one in the 'title flash' that's easy to mistake for a plane.
>>81010092
He actually went back and editted flash segments?
>>81007778
>The rule that "it wouldn't create a new alpha timeline just overwrite the old one" was proven untrue when (Vriska) still survived for some reason.
Wrong actually. It even has precedent, sort of: The Scratch. Meenah was actually instructed to blew he team up to leave ghost behind just before the Scratch happens, because otherwise they would be erased for good if they reesurecred back just before their Scratch happens. the Scratch has the same whitish energy as the retcon power.
What it means is that if a player a die in a timeline before it is retconned, you'll get to remain a ghost in Paradox Space, because Paradox space don't care about the rules. if you don't die in a timline that get retconned, you get overwrite. Such was the term of Sratch for Meenah, and it probably apply to retcon too. The Scratch is literally retcon that rplace main timeline with an other one, after all.
>Terezi not telling him to bring back the rest of her "friends" made no sense.
Except that would have resulted in a timleine where no shit was done at all. Retcon power doesn't not allow to "bring back" people to a pre-retcon timeline. it allow to modify the main timeline. John would have brought everyone to a new timeline with nothing having been done for all those time he had skipped. and the point was to not alter the alpha beyond the necessary to save everyone.
>Terezi is a self-centered, selfish character who deserves Gamzee. Their relationship was mutually abusive.
I don't see how it make no sense. Gamzee abused her guilt of killing Vriska and it has nothing to do with retcon.
>DaveKat is an awful ship especially when neither character acts like themselves.
We have seen their chat on the pad were they are both clearly in relationship, also, anyone who take Davekat seriously need to rmemeber the rebutal Tantrum given by Karkat when John suggested the ship was happening. Davekat isstill not confirmed.
(...)
>>81010125
That one at least.
>>81007778
(cont)>>81010162
>The idea that Hussie could imply that Karkat acted like a completely different person until he was back on panel before devolving in to a "vintage Karkat shitfit" shows how weak of a writer he is.
KArkat has always been writen in character and his moment of calmess fit with all his other moment of calmess.
>Davepetasprite is probably the worst thing this comic has produced and just show's Hussie's contempt for what his fans want.
It's fucking awesome, man, you just have no taste. Also, unrelated to Retcon power
>2014-present Homestuck is shit.
Only the Hiatuses are shit.
>Hussie clearly doesn't care.
He does
>Even if it ends in 3 weeks why even bother.
Because it's a fucking awesome story.
>>81008789
>I'm holding out hope the davekat bullshit was just hussie trying to desperate hook back in those awful tumblr fans
Or maybe he was just doing his usual brand of humor.
>>80983029
up urs m8
>>81010310
I'm sorry, but once Tumblr infects a fanbase, there is no cure.
>>81010125
John: take bite of apple has future John in it too.
>>81010465
So what you are saying is, everything is cancer from the very get-go, seeing that Tumblr has fanbase for everything.
>>81010615
Yes
>>81007857
>he wasted time drawing davekat shit
>he doesn't know how terezi loves her yaoi pairing
>>81010125
Yep.
>>81010162
>Wrong actually. It even has precedent, sort of: The Scratch. Meenah was actually instructed to blew he team up to leave ghost behind just before the Scratch happens, because otherwise they would be erased for good if they reesurecred back just before their Scratch happens. the Scratch has the same whitish energy as the retcon power.
>What it means is that if a player a die in a timeline before it is retconned, you'll get to remain a ghost in Paradox Space, because Paradox space don't care about the rules. if you don't die in a timline that get retconned, you get overwrite. Such was the term of Sratch for Meenah, and it probably apply to retcon too. The Scratch is literally retcon that rplace main timeline with an other one, after all.
OK, I can buy this.
Does Dirk actually not know what a prime number is, or is he being ironic? I figure he probably is, since him genuinely not knowing wouldn't make sense.
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006453
>>81011311
He's fucking with the AR because he doesn't like him, but can't bring himself to delete him. Part of his soul fragmentation/self-loathing shtick.
>>80990367
KATNEP ACKBAR
>due to time traveling shenanigans
What? Wasn't the letter always in the box and we just didn't get to see it/John didn't think about it until future Dave came back to tell him off? What time traveling shenanigans? Is this saying a future Dave wrote the letter?
>>80990367
>red VrisKat
>Katnep
>GamKar
>implication of pale VrisKat
>AradiaXAnon
>AraEqu
>AraSol
>implication of pale KanAra
>TereziXAnon
>GamTer
>Meowrails out of fucking nowhere
>TereziXAnon pale
>TavrosXAnon
>TavKan red
>KarKan pale out of fucking nowhere
>TavrosXAnon pale
Any of these meme ships you like????
>>81011674
All of these will be canon.
>>81000044
thanks! I was initially going to create a virska sketch but the model isn't released on SFM yet. that animation took me like 2 - 3 hours, so I might make something for 4/13. I dunno though, it was pretty pedantic.
>>81011674
Pale karkan is my otp
Pale kanara sounds interesting and I can see why nep would think that, since she tried to warn her not be an idiot like she would with vriska
>>81011553
Originally, the package didn't contain a sappy letter. The lack of this allowed John to be rused by Terezi and create Davesprite's timeline. Davesprite them traveled back and changed the birthday letter so it would be more meaningful and convince John to not jump ahead. He just hid himself when doing so, like how Aradia stayed hidden when she went back to make sure Karkat's computer exploded and destroyed his ~ATH book.
I'm worried for Hussie and the toll that all of the drama from the past two or three years has caused. Maybe he's just living his life, but it seems like he's cut off all contact with his fans. I mean we get info from him maybe once a month, it seems like he's doing just because he's obligated to, and not because he wants to. Do any of you think he'll actually have it in him to create something after Homestuck?
Are we still on for the movie marathon on 4/12?
>>81011946
Yes, as long as we keep paying him.
>>81011929
Really??? Is there any indication of this in the comic that I don't remember? I thought he was just rused by Terezi the first time because future Dave didn't message him and make him think twice (http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003549)
What did the original letter say? I kinda don't like this, I thought Dave was just being genuine on account of his best bro's birthday
>>81011946
Conceivably he's just fed up with his e-celeb status.
>>81011955
Well I imagine communicating with the fans would just be a distracting hassle these days, especially with how negative everyone is about homestuck now
>>81012131
woops
>>81011946
but also, movie marathon? What's this about
>>81012131
he quit interaction before people's dislike of the comic really became a common opinion
>>81012084
We never see what the original letter looks like, since we see things from John's perspective, so we only see the "end result" after Future Dave changed stuff. We get to see things from the other side when John does his retcon quest, as post-retcon Dave was never aware of John subtly changing things. All that happened in another reality and he never saw or experienced any of that.
>>81011929
Nice headcanon, doesn't really make any sense though.
>>81012145
We're watching a bunch of movies to celebrate our coming freedom.
>>81012336
What headcanon? The sappy letter was the deciding factor to make John reconsider that Dave was actually being sincere there. No sappy letter, John chooses to get fried by a giant snake.
>>81012207
Is there a page where we see that future dave wrote the letter? Sorry, it's been ages since I read through the retcon quest
>>81012381
You made up the whole thing about Davesprite writing it though. The story never indicated that was the case, and Davesprite immediately gave his timetables to Alpha Dave after he came back to the past.
>>81012449
not that guy, and I do think it's a fishy theory, but I guess it's possible that davesprite went back and wrote the letter, then jumped into the future to alpha dave.
>>81011553 implies it's on the wiki, and it looks like it's been there uncontested for a while.
>>81011884
Except neither Karkat nor Kanaya need a pacifier.
>>81012540
The letter was always there though, time travel alone wouldn't have enabled Dave to travel back to Earth and you shouldn't trust the wiki.
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=002032
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003561
>>81012540
I thought you can't jump to the future.
>>81012628
>implying Hussie gives a shit what troll romance does
>implying he doesn't classify moirailship as brotherhood
>or retcons blackrom into "silly prank war that ends in fucking" bullshit
>>81012540
>The wiki
The same wiki updated by biased users that spent two years insisting that Karkat and Terezi were canonically matesprits?
>>81012699
Don't see why somebody would base something so menial without evidence I guess. So what, we've found another plothole?
>>81012630
>and you shouldn't trust the wiki.
Thanks, >>81011553 here, I figured that was the case
I thought the only difference was that Davesprite gave a more concerted effort to convince John not to do it, and in doing so John remembered the letter.
>>81012699
Before I read the comic I was looking around on the wiki and I'm pretty sure I remember reading something about Doc Scratch <3< Rose, so, yeah
>>81012777
That's what I thought too, and there's nothing to indicate otherwise. So I'm pretty sure the wiki's wrong
>>81012628
I've stopped looking at the quadrants in strict troll terms, and more like "karkat's having a breakdown and needs cuddles" sort of thing
Basically a comforting relationship where they love each other dearly, with lots of affection but no fucking
Basically like when you feel like you're in love with your best friend, but you're still not in to them that way
>>81012907
lol that shit sounds mad gay
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0Dxp9y8r6af
>>81012968
>>81012992
my point exactly.
>>81012630
>time travel alone wouldn't have enabled Dave to travel back to Earth
Holy shit
Someone else actually gets it
I am astounded and impressed.
