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What are your thoughts on Volpina?
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>not talking about the peacock brooch(?)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3IhB39v_cU

miraculousubs for volpina
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I was disappointed she wasn't a miraculous holder but I still like her. I hope we see more of her.
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she was cool and the episode was good
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>>80959575
The episode was pretty obvious about it.
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>>80959417

Damn, those guys are fast.
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>>80959295
She did nothing wrong.
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>>80959417
>transforms just to call her out
wow
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>>80959417
I think the biggest problem of the show is how much of a bitch the main is
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>>80959575
She'll probably take the Fox miraculous from Fu sometime during next season.
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>>80959295
She's a cute little heart-breaker.
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>>80959394
I really hope that Gabriel really is Papillon and the writers aren't going to do some bait and switch. I assume that the peacock miraculous was either his or his wife's.
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>>80961997
even if he isn't Hawkmoth I think he has some thing do with Miraculous
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>>80962221
Well of course. He wouldn't have the book and the peacock miraculous if he didn't. Not to mention, Tikki said Fu was looking for the book, so it was probably stolen.
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http://strawpoll.me/7147602
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>>80961795
I bet she's a sweet little lovemaker
I wanna take her home
I won't do her no harm, no
She's gotta be all mine, all mine
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>>80959295
>it's a "let's sexualize foxes" episode
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She was too much of a bitch.
The appeal of fox characters is that they are cunning and mischievous, but not outright malicious.
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>>80959394
Why did Plagg just ignore the peacock miraculous? Is it a fake?
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>>80959295
>fox

Since it's French I expect them to have a chicken girl or rooster guy later.
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>>80961596

Unless she changes her attitude this is as likely as Chloe getting the bee miraculous.

is not
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I don't know why, but she reminds me of Chel from The Road to El Dorado
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>>80963045
Never said I expected Fu to give her the miraculous, although she could try be redeemed in the eyes of Fu and Marinette only to turn on them.
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>>80962429

>best villian

This is a hard one.

Lady Wifi had a great design and interesting powerset, she also came close to get the miraculous.
Mime had a nice story (better than Chloe was mean to me and now I want revenge at least) and I liked the idea behind his powers, as cheap as they might be.
SImon Says had the best episode but not thanks to him.
Copycat was basically an excuse to have Chat on Chat action but that's fine by me
And Mr Pidgeon will always be best boy.
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>>80961453
Hardly. It's easy to be overcome with emotions like that, especially when you're head over heels for someone. Marinette makes mistakes but she is one of the only characters in the entire show to apologize for it (without being a victim of an akuma attack).
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>>80962577
This. I wish they would have gone in a different direction with her. If you have any ideas of how she would have turned out better, share 'em.
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>>80959295

It's going to be wonderfully ironic when someone else gets the Fox Miraculous.
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>>80959295
And here I was getting emotional about the last thread.
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>>80963666
I can't see it happening. They went out of their way to create a character who fit the outfit/miraculous so well, it wouldn't make sense to have someone else have it. However, I can imagine her getting it either by stealing it or after being redeemed.
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>>80963724
Same. I'm glad there's still a little bit more to talk about. Hopefully the comics will be something worth talking about as well.
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>>80963666

>mfw Natfags go back to the idea of him getting the Fox miraculous
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>>80963730

I just saw this art of Alya getting it and wanted this to happen, since she's way more desserving of superpowers imo, but I could totally see Volpina becoming Hawkmoth's subbordinate and using her powers to piss people off enough to get them Akumatized.
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>>80963724
Which episode is that from?
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>>80963780
The Nath-train will never end until they get BTFO'd

>>80963846
Numéric/Digital
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>>80963730

At first I thought she was going to get it because there may have been a grain of truth to her story about having been descended from a Fox Heroine and that necklace, but I just don't think a pathological liar who can't accept an apology from someone who called her out on her behavior will ever get a Miraculous unless she becomes a villain. Someone else desserves that power, and she'll become an elite servant of Hawkmoth because someone else got fox powers.
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>>80963846
Numéric.
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>>80963832
If Alya got it I immediately thought she'd become this.
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>>80963880
I wonder if Hawkmoth will ever find Fu?
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>>80963879
>>80963780

Did someone say Fox Nathaniel?
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>>80963977
That will be the leadup for a season, maybe even the series, finale. Assuming the spare Miraculous haven't been given away at this point.
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>>80964015

*GASP* and give him a paintbrush for a weapon so he'll be like pic related!
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>>80963977
I'm wondering what he would do if Nooroo got sick too.
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>>80964015
Does he really need a pectoral window?
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>>80964135
Probably just throw him away.
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>>80964147

No, but it's fan art, chill
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>>80963879
>>80963884
thanks
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>>80961596
> Hawkmooth locate master Fu
> He has to fight himself but he get his hand on one miraculous and Fu give away the last one since keeping it isn't safe anyway.
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>>80964015
Reminds me of Bruno from Jojo.
>>80964147
Gotta make up for the lack of butt somehow.
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Volpina's a bitch and Ladybug did nothing wrong.
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>>80962944
He barely cared about the book after it was HIS idea to check out the safe.
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>>80964386
inb4 Plagg is the real villain
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>>80964082
Give him nine paintbrushes so he'll be like pic-related
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>>80964440
That... Would actually be a good twist.
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>>80963780
>>80963832
>>80963730

Let's be real, though, we all know who's going to get the Bee miraculous.
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>>80964386
Well, he said he love secrets. Once the safe was open, it wasn't a secret anymore so he stopped giving a fuck.

Or like a cat that bothers you to get something and instantly lose interest when he get it.
Also work with babies.
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>>80964444
I like the way you think, good sir.
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>>80964231
>lack of butt
Sad, but true. Nath's the Incredible Buttless Boy.
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>>80964440
> It's a heroes fight their evil alter ego episode.
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>>80964506
I can see that being plausible with her design but with her attitude I have no idea how that's going to happen.
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>>80964506


imo if it happens it would be like in Total Spies where the mean bitch got to be a Spy for a day and then her memory was erased.
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>>80964680
I forgot about that episode! When mean people get what they want, even for a little while, it leaves such a bad taste in your mouth.
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>>80963021
we have peacock, turtle, fox, cat, ladybug, butterly
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>>80959575
what if her necklace is actually a miraculous and she just lacks the kwami, and she doesnt know it
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>>80964831
Bad head canon, friend.
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>>80959417
>she just walks away at the top of eiffel tower
she either died a horrible death or it was all an illusion
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>>80964962
i dont follow
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Is Chloe going to get any development at all in the next season? She's a fucking threat to society.
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>>80965094
She walked out of a store .She brought the fake fox miraculous .
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>>80965198
>She's a fucking threat to society.
Spider miraculous then.
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>>80965240
I found the perfect costume.
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I disliked that Marinette had so many better ways to confront or deal with Lila. She could have just said hi to Adrien as Ladybug and introduced herself to Lila, than it would have been obvious to Adrien that Lila was lying. She also could have just entered the library lika a normal person and just pretend to look for a book instead of the weird hiding.
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I would have found it much more interested if Lila would have been into Chat Noir instead Adrien. She'd still dislike Ladybug and would like to pretend to be a hero.
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>>80964440
>>80964478

It would be a good twist but it will never happen in this show, and we'll just have settle for plagg acting like pic related.
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>>80965474
>>80965556
This. The episode could have gone in a number of more interesting ways but instead it fell back on played out scenarios. I'm honestly waiting for the right fanfiction to come around that rewrites Volpina into a better character. Really the only good the episode did for the plot was to show where Marinette's weakness lies and confirm that Lila would be a returning character (and possibly a villain).
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She reminds me of pic related
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>>80961453
I kinda like viewing Ladybug and in turn Marinette's arrogance as a character flaw, her ignoring Chloe in Antibug and this episode being prime examples
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>>80963382
kek
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>>80959295
Pretty foxy, senpai
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>>80959792
Talia? Is that you?
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>>80965556
Ladybug wouldn't care as much.
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Her skin colour is really ambiguous

Is she black or not?
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>>80966876
She's Italien
There are more ethnicities than black and white
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>>80959295
we didn't need another chloe, a waste of good character design
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>>80965474
the problem was that they wanted to show her jealous but needed to justify it by making Lila a bitch. It would have been even worse if Marinette acted like that about a nice girl crushing on Adrien.

They either need to save all the jealousy for Chloe or make Marinette grow up about it. The show doesn't need to go there, we know she owns Adrien's dick.
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>>80966876
She's brown like most Italians.
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I want to cram my cock down her throat until she's choking and gasping for air.
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>>80959295
Is this show made for sexual?
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>>80967309
I wish they would tone down the jealousy thing. Its kinda annoying at this point. Every episode is her doing shit to get next to Adrien instead of just talking to him normally.
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Why is Lila trying to flirt with both Adrien and Chat Noir? Why is she such a slut?
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>>80967735
It's French.
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>>80967735

Maaaaaaaybe.
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>>80967883
we need more kung food/origins and less volpina when it comes to adrien/marinette

Now that the season is over, what would you change and what are your hopes for season two?

(we know you read these threads, astruc)
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>>80966876
She's an olive-skinned white girl. Think something like Penélope Cruz (well, Cruz is a Spaniard but it's mostly the same thing, genetics-wise).
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>>80967898
She was flirting with Adrien but at the time she joined up with Chat Noir and Ladybug, she didn't care about her crush anymore. She just wanted to destroy Ladybug. So by flirting with Ladybug's partner, whom she assumed LB had a crush on, she would be causing LB pain.
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I want to learn more about Hawkmoth. Why does he want the miraculous ? Is he really Adrien's dad ? What happen to his wife ?
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>>80968592
I'm 90% sure he wants to use them to bring his wife back to life. I'm 50% sure she's actually not dead but had to leave.
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>>80966876
I thought she was a brown chinese.
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>>80968765
Adrien does say she "disappeared" rather than died in the webisodes. But then again that could have been what Gabriel told him had happened.
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Does anyone have a crush on Chat? Adrian has several, Labybug and Mar have a few, but I don't think anyone in-universe fawns over the cat boy slut.
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>>80968826
Maybe she became a miraculous and left her family because it was too dangerous, faked her death, and was last seen in Tibet. Hawkmoth thinks she's dead and wants the miraculous to bring her to life. Eventually, in a final battle he will get them but they won't work because she's already alive. Clifhanger to new season.
Then
A. A new threat emerged, perhaps keeping the mom hostage.
B. Mom IS the new villian or corrupted
In either of those scenarios, Hawkmoth will join up with his son and LB. Or give up his own miraculous to someone else.

I hope this show ends with LB or Chat getting all of the miraculous to use for a final battle fight against the big bad or save the world from some apocalyptic event. There's alot of places and potential to go with this.
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>>80959295
Can I put my dick in her?
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>>80968913
sure not in-universe
but I sure do
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>>80964440
Well he IS destruction/chaos incarnate
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>>80968131
Hawk Moth is defeated in a 2-part season opener.
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>>80969085
>Mom is trapped inside the miraculous which is why HM needs the power to free her and made up the story about Tibet to protect young Adrien.
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I just watched the mech ep and this was the first thing that came to mind.
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>>80964669
Well she already acts like a queen beetch so I guess she has the right attitude.
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On a scale from one to ten, how is Hawk Moth's plan?
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>>80971231
A four or five when he first tried it (i.e. decent enough), but after it didn't work the first time, and he couldn't get the akuma multiplication effect to happen again, it quickly became a one. In Jackady, it became a full on zero and nearly got himself killed.
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>>80970310
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1RYSy55KtA
>bees
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>>80968913
Turns out the whole cat motif really is only attractive on women.
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>>80972605
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>>80972664
>That shitty half-a-second heavily filtered tumblr gif that doesn't even loop right
Get out and never show yourself on this site ever again. This is beyond disgusting.
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this show sucks dick with bad villains like hawkmoth. I hope we get an interesting villain like Donald Trump in it
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>>80972664
>>80972742
Stop it, France, you're making it weird.
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>>80964147
Yes, it exposes a bit of skin and gives me something I feel the need to lick.
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>>80964680
Those lips are a little too kissable
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>>80959295
This series is now being dubbed in México for all the spics. I'm amazed it took so long...
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>>80974872
They know exactly what they're doing, even when they're not doing it.
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>>80974872
Chat Noir has kissed those lips and doesn't even remember it. There is no worse fate than that.
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>>80968812
She is explicitly stated to be Italian
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>>80968913
>As Chat's exploits become more well known, a Chat Noir fan club forms
>The members start showing up at his fights, hoping to catch a glimpse of their idol
>It's a bunch of fat neckbeards in suits and Guy Fawkes masks

We also need a pic of Chat browsing /co/ for the first time and getting turned on
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>>80975591
Being Chat is suffering. Sexy, sexy suffering.
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>>80963210
>Lady WiFi
>almost winning
>not Puppeteer

It's sort of crazy how a 9 year old came closest out of all the villains to getting the Miraculous. Fuck, if she hadn't thrown a tantrum and beam-spammed all of the villain powers she would have won. If she wasn't so reckless she would've just had the villains hold off Ladybug and made Chat Noir take off his Miraculous.

Best part: since she's so young and kind of a brat there's really nothing keeping her from throwing another tantrum and getting re-Akumatized.
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>>80977040
Man, I've never liked that suit. Some of the fanmade costume designs look better than that shiny unitard. Changing her hair up after the transformation would also be a plus - would also help suspend my disbelief about nobody recognizing Ladybug's identity.
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Why is it Marinette is the only character that can make more than one facial expression?
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>>80977646
>Lady WiFi
>almost winning
>not Puppeteer
It didn't specify why you thought they were the best villain. If the poll asked who the most efficient villain is or who did the most damage to Paris prior to the fix it spell then Puppeteer would be higher on the list.
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>>80959295
it's really bad when this is all I can think of when I see this
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>>80978849
Hmm that's true.

Though she was the most efficient, she didn't damage Paris too much, since she was one of the few villains who targeted only Ladybug/Chat Noir

As far as damage I'd say either the Gamer or Mime.

Favorite either WiFi or Volpina
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>>80963724
is her hands too lewd they have to pixelate it
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>>80963724
Yeah, I just joined the thread and I thought that would be the last until Season 2.
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are there lewds of volpina yet
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>>80969964
Eh I thought of him more as bad luck.
Sort of like Jinx from Teen Titans, where things she touches can erode or break at will.

Plus there's the fact that Chat Noir has TERRIBLE luck when transformed.

>successful sneaking up on villain, bystander yells wishing him good luck
>nearly crushed by bus in first episode
>locked in freezer during fight with Lady WiFi
>mind controlled at least twice (causing bad luck for the villains since he's on their side at this point)
>locked in sarcophagus
>digitized during fight
>tricked into chasing an illusion
>transformed into Reflecta
>absorbed into time
>nearly beaten up by own bodyguard
>beaten up by Antibug

I figure the only reason he doesn't drag down Ladybug with him is that her good luck powers cancel out any bad luck he could bring her.
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>>80964440
Why is evil always sexier?
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>>80968131

-Lila ends up befriending Marinette, giving an interesting contrast where she likes her civvie form but not her alter ego. We could also learn more about her this way - for example, she could actually be tremendously insecure while still being prone to outbursts of anger and being vindictive. Clear flaws, but we don't need her to be a one-dimensional bitch like Chloe. It wouldn't justify her lying to everyone, but we'd understand the why behind it.

-As a matter of fact, give Chloe some character development so she can stop being such a one-dimensional bitch. Her bitchiness is so excessive I swear any more of her shit will end up with me being akumatized after my anger breaks the dimensional boundary and is felt by Hawk Moth (maybe my power will involve throwing out greentext).

-Plagg is playing the long con and he is just pretending to be stupid. He knew damn well about the book and the other Miraculous, but he actively acted like "muh cheese" for some reason, probably he already figured out who Hawk Moth is and doesn't want to go "yeah your dad is our mortal enemy lmao".

-Fu allowing for identity reveal. At thid point LB and CN would probably be better served by knowing who the other is.


-Have an episode with a non-Miraculous hero helping the duo. Astruc has made clear there are other heroes in this universe.

-Have someone find out LB or CN's identity and act as secret keeper. Preferrably Alya.

-Just be more plot-focused in general. And stick to chronological order.
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>>80980511
>(maybe my power will involve throwing out greentext)
> Anon, I'm Hawkmoth. You... hum... will be able to...damn... I got nothing.
I think it will be hard to do something with Chloe. It would either take a huge time to develop or need her to be broken with isn't in the tone of the show.

>>80980511
>Just be more plot-focused in general. And stick to chronological order.
I'm expecting that to happen, Code Lyoko went the same way: one season with very little plot and almost no specific order (except for season finale). A shame they have to make a full season before being able to really start the plot.
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>favorite animal is foxes
>there's a girl that has a fox costume
maybe i should start watching this show now
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>>80959295
I think that she was ultimately an unnecessary addition to the cast, we already have a Chole we don't need another class a unrepentant bitch.
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>>80961453
Just pointing out eventually Lila would have eventually been called out publicly anyway, and she was lying between her teeth about Ladybug.
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>>80964533
Or he wanted Adrien to lose it so that the book would no longer be in Hawkmoth's hands.
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>>80981462
But that assumes that Plagg has figured out Hawk Moth's identity. I suppose he might have only been pretending to be an idiot. But I find that unlikely. The fact is Adrien and Plagg lost the book in the library. That was kind of a bitch move by Lila.
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>>80968242
No she still cared in fact she ran to Adrien and continued to lie to him. Then got mad when he didn't believe her.
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Just watched the first episode and I've got the feeling that this show is going to be very, very formulaic. When's Volpina?
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>>80981591
The turtle kwami was able to sense Nooro being used, so maybe Plagg can do the same. Or he may have just put two and two together Adrien's Father shouldn't have the book after all.
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>>80981658

>Just watched the first episode and I've got the feeling that this show is going to be very, very formulaic.

Everything but 3-4 episodes more or less follow what you've already seen, yeah. There's also little to no continuity outside those few.

Volpina should be episode 24, going by French airing. The English dub is a ways from getting to it.
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>>80981719
Alright. I suppose they use the same transformation sequences every episode?
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>>80967883
I think that both Adrien and Marinette have things to work on. Adrien needs a fucking backbone and to be less gullible.

I do think that we either need to tone down Marinette's jealousy, or do something about Adrien. Because at the end of the day a lot of her jealousy stems from Adrien being a doormat, think that both characters were at their best in Kung Food.

I think I'm the only one who was annoyed by him in this episode.
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where's the lewd
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>>80980901
IDK I heard it can be pretty bad.
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>>80982407
I can't stand the intro song, that's for certain.
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>>80982531
Which version?
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>>80981927
But there is no lewd to see here, voyons!
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>>80959394
Hawk Moth confirmed for Gabriel's evil half.

Gabriel is Peacock confirmed.
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>>80982407
It has a few inconsistencies in the writing and the villain of the week format isn't for everyone (great designs, though), but it can be fun. I watched it pretty much for the characters.
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>>80964444
Madcatz okami pls go
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I know she's only been in one episode but Volpina has become my favorite villain .
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Is this the face Alya makes when Nino sticks it in?
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>>80959295

It would be really funny and ironic if Lila winds up befriending Marinette. Also I want to find out if the other classmates learn that she's a pathological liar.
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>>80978849
>>80963210
The Black Knight came pretty far with fucking Paris up.
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>>80982531
But anon, how can you not like it? It's simply the best!
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>>80980511
It would be so excruciating if Alya learns that Marinette is Ladybug, Nino learns Adrien is Chat Noir, both blab to each other about their gest friends's secret identity, & have to sit in silence along with the audience as if either tells it could ruin their friendships.
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>>80990423
You might even say that it's miraculous
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>>80980511
Plagg was the one that wanted Adrien to search the safe, pretty sure he's as interested as Tikki in stopping Hawk Moth but is too proud to act like he cares so he just uses his laziness/mischievous nature to nudge Adrien in the right direction.
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>>80992815
kek
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Any ideas on what a peacock's power would be?
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>>80994290
illusion comes to mind, dunno why

peacocks are flashy, stage magicians are flashy
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>>80994340
That was akumatized Lila's power, though, and is probably going to be Volpina's too.
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>>80994290
hypnotism maybe, all those eye patterns
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>>80994290
the power to fly
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>>80963832
Looks like that idea is catching on.
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>>80996231
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>>80996231
I didn't even notice the "Guuuuuuurrrrl" at first, how cringey.
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I would rather have Lila be Volpina
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>>80996231
Eh, she looks better as Lady Wifi.

Who is not beyond redemption...
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>>80995096
Akuma powers are made to reflect the person being akumatized, ergo Lila is a liar so her powers are illusions aka lies.

Miraculous though don't seem to reflect their users.
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just wanna say started watching because fuck me and catching up on other stuff.

But Sabrina is cute.....CUTE!!!
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>Thinks about being fucked by chloe with a strapon in dominatrix gear
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>>80994933
Nathan is tiny
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What do you guys want to see in season 2 ?
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>>80997617
>>80997840
Regardless of how she looks, Sabrina is pretty fucking terrible. Maybe she would get some actual friends if she wasn't completely oblivious about the shit Chloe pulls on her.
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>>80994290

something something wind fans
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>>81000881

Hawkmoth not being an incompetent Rita Repulsa knockoff
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>>81000779
I like how he makes himself taller in his fanfiction.
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>>81000881
More episodes from Adrien's PoV. He's supposed to be the co-protagonist, but most episodes are about Marinette. Either you have a show called "Miraculous Ladybug" and make it about the titular character, or you call it "The Adventures of Ladybug and Cat Noir" and give both MCs equal importance and screentime.
Adult female villains. We didn't have a single one this season, I want to see what kind of designs they come up with.
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Lemme get some of them good fanfic recommendations. I don't want some bullshit marichat fluff that's 20,000 words long, don't give me that shit.
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>>81002666
that parachute is adorable
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>>81000881
Also, now that I see >>81002666, more than one set of clothes for the characters. I get that making 3D models is expensive, but at least give the classroom a winter outfit so we don't have the kids running around in T-shirts and 3/4 pants in the middle of February.
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>>81002925
Allegedly February. I don't recall seeing any snow in that episode, it was winter in name only. Once again, this is because of the limitations of 3D animation, but that is something they should have thought about before making a Valentine's Day episode. I get that the romance between the two characters is a major component of the show, but there are other "romantic" holidays.
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>>81002766
Secret Santa by the Last Pilot. Or would you rather like to read about Marinette getting her period and Adrien getting boners?
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>>81003278
>Happy Mother's Day Adrien!
:(
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>>81003572
Shit I already read that one, and I'd prefer no puberty or smut.
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>>80997840
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>>80979488
She had just been using it to hold someone else'
hand.

You tell me.
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>>81003572
I'd link you mine but I haven't updated since the middle of Jan because of school.

Honestly I would just browse the ones with tags like angst and hurt/comfort, the writers tend to be marginally more mature and the angst doesn't usually go overboard.
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>>81004033
Meant for>>81003670
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>>80996231
People ship this shit?
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>>81001640
watched the first 6 episodes so far
so Im guessing she gets no redemption episode even a little for season 1?

>>81003722
the soulless gingers true form has revealed itself.
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>>81004430
I think they find the irony of it funny.
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also dat.teacher hnnnnnnnnng is she a perma background character or is she atleast featured in an episode or 2?
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>>81004662
Or maybe just some yuri retards wanting representation from straight characters.
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>>81002766
Holy shit that picture is saucy.
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>>81004430
If a two characters exist, someone will ship them.
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Does this show air on tv? Because ive constantly looked for the scheldule and i see nothing
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>>80981775
Yeah, though there are one or two variants iirc
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>>81005717
Depends where you're watching from. I don't know the full list but currently it airs in North America, UK, France, and Korea. You'll probably find that answer on mlsubbing or miraculousubs tumblr. A majority of fans watch the french dub with eng subs.
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>>81005798
It's just the regular and origin ep. variants, right?
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>>81002697
adrien gets possible two miraculous holders as parents, and his father is the big bad and people still bitch he doesn't get enough focus?
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>>81002766
>bulshit marichat
my nigga

http://archiveofourown.org/works/5978767/chapters/13739953 no powers, but pretty funny and well written
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>>81001640
sabrina is not oblivious, she's a petyr pettigrew, likes to bully and humilliate others but is too much of a coward to do it on her own
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>>81005805
I watch it in the us
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>>80959417
>>80959295
My family name is Volpi and apparently all it takes is one character with even a remotely similar name to interest me. Hope this shit is good.
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At the beginning of the origins episode the audience is greeted with a mass amount of knowledge. Nuroo is narrating to Hawkmoth the abridged history of the stones. Hawkmoth learns about the powers to rival god's by combining the ladybug/chatnoir stones, and aspires to use said power-- looking down at the locket of Gabriel's wife/Adrien's mom. Nuroo reminds him that using the stones for evil is some bad shit, dont do it, etc.

From this the audience can gather
>Cockmoth wasn't always evil
>Hawkmoth is just now acquiring the moth brooch/pin
>His motivation lies in Gabriel's wife/Adrien's mom.

Then later on in the Volpina episode we learn that
>Adrien's dad has the Peacock stone
>HIs wife's dead or missing
>He's got a book on this shit

Putting this together, I'll add it to a personal guess of their personalities. I'm betting Gabriel was the original owner of the Peacock stone and used it (similar to Marinette/Adrien) without knowing of the origins; he knew the effects and powers. His showyness was part of his success to being the BIG BOSSU of a fashion industry.

His wife on the other hand had Nuruu; and inspired people. SHe was a muse of sorts and would change people for the better, and give them skills of confidence, agility, and talents they knew not that they possesses. Unlike Cockmoth, she used the abilities for good.

Eventually, she either died or ran away. Maybe defeated in battle, or someshit. Who knows.
She leaves behind the miraculous to her husband, quitting all the bullshit pressure, and ashamed, Gabriel puts both his and her miraculous away. Too butthurt to put his on, one day he puts hers on- hoping to find the runaway ho and ends up having a brief summary of the powers.

Somewhere in him, it clicks that maybe he could use the stones to find her (and then later he learns about the godlike power to bring her back.)
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>>81005996
It's on Nickelodeon.
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>>81005880
Adrien might have a bazillion plot coupons, but that matters very little if the underlying plot is irrelevant for about 85% of the season. We see very little of Adrien's daily life, his job, his relationship with other people, his dreams, because the episodes always follow Marinette: "Marinette enters a contest!" "Marinette designs an album cover!", "Marinette is hornier than a chicken!", "Marinette babysits a brat!", "Marinette runs for class president!". I'd like to see more episodes where Adrien does something/has a problem and we follow him through his day.
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>>81005864
Pretty much, though I believe the MCs transform once or twice without any sequence, though that's usually in episodes where they transform once already
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I have no proof, but they definitely seem to like using every character they have at their disposal eventually.
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>>81006873
Because Adrien has very little connection to the outside world, besides he might be frustrating to follow.
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>>80987422
Lila would never befriend anyone who likes Adrien
Mari or Chloe
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>>81008653
Yeah Lila was stated that she wasn't looking for friends she wanted to be the center of attention.
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>>81006249

I think Fu also mentioned in the Origins episode that he's only made one mistake in his life, and won't make another one right? Kind of wondering if he was referring to Gabriel with that (assuming he was the original owner of the peacock miraculous). Perhaps in giving him his power to begin with.
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>>80972664
>>80972742
>fake Chat's boypussy resting firmly against Chat's crotch

Oh jesus.
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>>81002766
Werecat in London is pretty good, runs with the idea that other countries have their own magic shit going on. Might have smut later if the author's previous works (also good) is any indication
http://archiveofourown.org/works/6176572/chapters/14151175
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Ah yes, Alya.
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Love those hips.
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Why can't ladybug stick to walls and ceilings like actual ladybugs and Spiderman?
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>>81016995
Or fly for that matter?

Though I think the answer is that they came up with her design way before everyone else, though I hope they take the Magical girl route and upgrade it eventually.
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can someone do me a favour and post the adrien fedora pic

i went looking through the archives for it and couldnt find it anywhere

i'll give you an upvote if you post it
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>>81017240

>upvote
This isn't reddit.
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>>81017223
Her costume is just so plain compared to Chat Noir's. She doesn't even have on actual shoes. I wish it were better.
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>>81017784
no shit, really?
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>>80997617
Mmmm
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>>81018027
It actually needs less polkadots on the outfit, and a bit more black and more buggy so to be more reminiscent of an actual ladybug.

I mean I get why her outfit looks the way it does, because the original concept was in a similar vein as Kick Ass. But we've kinda moved away from that concept so her character design should reflect that. Just giving her gloves and boots improves her outfit immensely.
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