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Why was he such a dickhead in this movie?
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Like seriously, WHY?
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Trying to get WW pussy
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>>80942872
he was still a fucknut before WW came in..
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>>80942786
Superman is the jock to most people to Batman's bullied autism. There's a whole generation of content creators who believe this way and you'll begin to see his portrayed as such with increasing frequency.
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>>80942786
He wasn't
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>dickhead

He beats up Bats and GL (since when is Superman beating up his enemies dickery?), then kind of stands around saying dumb things like "I can fly into space!" and making moon eyes at Teen Wonder Woman.

He's not a dickhead.
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>>80943173
That all sounds dickheady and very unSuperman like. WAR was really terrible.
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>>80943201
>That all sounds dickheady and very unSuperman like

Beating up Batman is the most Superman thing possible, considering DC keeps on insisting on having Batman be mind controlled or evil and trying to kill Superman.

And Hal deserves to get beaten up.
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>>80942786
JOHNS SHIT
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>>80943224
>on having Batman be mind controlled

I'm pretty sure you are wrong
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>Justice League now
>standard get to the point and make it a line Johns
>Justice League during Origin/War
>literally Avengers-tier faggotry and quippage

What happened?
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>>80943289
>he doesn't know about how DC is literally trying to assassinate Batman's character by turning him into some final boss for Superman to fight

The sheer number of times in canon that Batman has been corrupted or taken over by mind control bullshit is retarded
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>>80943252
Johns has been capable of writing a pretty decent superman in the past, thought.
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>>80943303
Are you i plying that shit is good? It's actually pretty generic and bad
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>>80943471

>standard

I'm pretty sure that means generic anon
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>>80943467

His modern Superman run was weird, even if a lot of it seemed like Johns addressing stuff that upset him in Man of Steel
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>>80943336
I remember he was possessed by Krptonite Man in Loeb's Superman/Batman

And he got crazy with power when he absorbed Superman's powers.

Where are the other pics from?
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>>80943467
In the past he was good with almost every character not named diana or bruce.
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>>80943224
>And Hal deserves to get beaten up.
How dare you
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>>80943336
It also tends to happen the other way around a lot too. Sacrifice, Endgame, Hush, Batman/Superman, and I'm pretty sure that I'm missing a few.
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>>80943522

Enemies Among Us (the Blackstone storyline, I think). The other three are from 'Tec (Finch), Batman/Superman (Pak), and Justice League (Johns).
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>>80943581

The joke is that, yes, it goes both ways. People used to complain about Supes just being treated as a final boss for Bats, but they've been on both sides of the table multiple times.

It's actually ridiculous.
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>>80943467
That's why everyone thinks Jim Lee ghostwrote the first couple of JL arcs

>>80943501
He gave Clark a dindu nuffin villainfu to have vague sexual tension with, that's like textbook Johns and not weird at all. The weird part was him leaving the book after one arc despite having allegedly a long run planned.
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>>80943173
Nah, nigga, he was acting WAY out of character. taunting and basically slapping around people he KNEW couldn't hurt him with a cruel smile the whole time. The supes we know and love would have tried to ask them what was going on. This dick just went, "Well, OK, but mine's bigger than yours" and starting batting everyone around for funsies, fuck his usual mediation angle.
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>>80942786


confident=dickhead

stop projecting, beta fag
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>>80943633
>The supes we know and love would have tried to ask them what was going on

No, he'd have beaten the shit out of them.

Supes has never been an ask questions first, punch later kind of guy. He punches WHILE asking questions.

He also saves everyone with a smile. But never forget: Action Comics.
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>>80943303
I think that he may have tried to reinvent them but the end result was so poor, generic and unlikable, that since then he's been progressively making them more similar to their pre n52 counterparts.
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>>80943685
>I think that he may have tried to reinvent them

I really doubt that, considering his absolute fetish is Reeve Superman
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>>80943173
Didn't GL attack him first?

He was cocky, but this was the beginning of his career anyway. He wasn't really a dick.
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>>80943751

Yes. Hal throws the first laser in that fight.
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>>80943633
He's done that before. He's not always a boyscout.
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>>80943588
Ah ok thank you
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>>80943731
It was editorially mandated reinvention
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>>80943471
It's not something that will be remembered as a classic but I think It's pretty enjoyable. It's also a tremendous improvement in the JL title since the new 52 began. It's a masterpiece compared to what Johns was writing in 2011-2012.
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>>80943853
What were they thinking
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>>80943685
Why is it so hard for modern writers to make Superman a strongman costumed vigilante?
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>>80943909

Morrison tried.

He ended up writing Batman in a cape.

Then he said "fuck it" and went full 5D shenanigans
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>>80942786
>>80942967

I wondered that too. Do they see Superman as being the jock-type because he's physically strong? I see Superman as his paradox, he's got the "jocks" physique but his heart and mind are more like a "nerds" considered he's from long, genetically engineered scientist stock and he was raised in a rural Christian environment.

It's basically "Superman should be a dick but all these other factors came together to form a miracle and he's not a dick."

All-Star Superman tried to get close to this it seems. Showing that Superman's super powers effect his morality and thought processes/emotional spectrum as well.

>>80943669

Actually confident =/= dickhead.

Maybe that's what you're trying to say or not. But for the record, you can confident and still be nice and polite.
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>>80944151
>all these other factors

All four of his parents were saints and his father gave him the great responsibility speech before he died

Basically that's it
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>>80942786
>Why is superdick a dick
I don't know, man. Why is the sky blue? Why does the pope shit in the woods?
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>>80943961
That was a golden age throwback though and the plan was always to bring Clark back to the modern stuff.

It's like you don't understand what you're reading here.
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>>80944260
>That was a golden age throwback

Golden Age Superman was always in control, anon. When he was dicking someone around, like that wifebeater or that one fat guy, he was in full control of the situation.

Morrison "Golden Age" Superman wasn't. He was a lot younger, a lot rougher, and a lot angrier (when in the cape).

You'd never have seen a scene like this out of Golden Age Superman. He would have been smug and punched the guy through a wall.

Morrison's Young Clark has a lot of deep-seated rage. Pak implies that this rage comes from Ma and Pa dying the way they did, but Morrison doesn't - it just seems to be a part of Young Clark.
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>>80944380
It was perhaps a failed execution of the throwback, but my complaint was mostly that you're acting like Morrison did it accidentally and corrected himself along the way instead of writing a planned evolution.
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>>80944380
I guess the new question becomes, why are modern writers afraid to show Superman in control of the situation? Why must he be this angry and conflicted person with super powers?
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>>80943303
that last panel fucking gets me every time. goosebumps, man.
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>>80944529

Hashtag not all writers
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>>80944590
There's something off about the art.
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>>80943789
Did it remind anybody of Family Guy when he got knocked down, then parademons showed up out of nowhere to ground pound him?
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>>80944697

The way Hal fell, I was half expecting him to have his arm behind his back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFghwndLmxM
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>>80944529
because you're not reading everything?
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>>80944828

Fucking Superchrist, willing to die for Mick's sins
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>>80942967

Pretty much, among other things.
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>>80944828

That's pretty great. Shame the art sucks
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>>80944945
>tfw Superbat's friendly bantz is read by autists as Bats shitting on Supes

Why /co/
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>>80944955
Yeah recent JRJR is trash
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>>80944529
You don't read comics?
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>>80944975

To be fair, Batman is kind of an asshole.
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>>80944975
they don't have friends
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>>80944955

They also bring the goofy shit

Modern comics don't have to be all gloom and doom /co/
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>>80945100
That cockblock
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>>80943628
>He gave Clark a dindu nuffin villainfu to have vague sexual tension with, that's like textbook Johns and not weird at all. The weird part was him leaving the book after one arc despite having allegedly a long run planned.

Didn't someone say that WB mandated that Johns could only work on one book due to his duties for the films and stuff? It's probably also why we hadn't gotten Shazam.
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>>80945656

Not strictly WB but his boss, Diane Nelson.
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>>80945100
Superman and Wonder Woman? I think I threw up a little.
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>>80944828
This is muh supes.
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>>80945721

This

Superman/Cat or bust

Lana, Lois, Lex, and Diana a shit and all tied for worst girl
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> that green lantern scene
Always cracks me up
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>>80945656
That was the rumor. I guess we'll see with Rebirth. If he's not on one of the biweeklies that means it's probably true.
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>>80944828
Man Romita Jr is really not a good match fos upes. Which is odd cos i love when he did cap.
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>>80942786
because it was a shit movie.
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>>80942786
Because he was "too boring" so making him an asshole was some sort of character development.
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>>80942786
>>80947667
>>80947615
>>80944151
They followed the events and tone of the comic very closely. And IN the comic, just before he met GL and Bats, Superman's parents had just died, so he was a little on edge.
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Honestly if nothing could kill me but a green rock no one even knew about yet id probably be a cocky prick too
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>>80945746
I loved Cat/Clark but they did absolutely shit none with that. They made a big deal of him quitting the planet, and then they had zero progress with their website line. The only thing they used it was to expose Supes & WW. Then he just goes back like nothing happened. Fuck I hate comcis sometimes.
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>>80950511
Wouldn't that alienate you from other people? Surely maximum Superman level powers aren't called for to resolve most situations where you can just talk.
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>>80949279
>They followed the events and tone of the comic very closely

The comic is terrible and was an early warning of how bad Johns JL would end up being.
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from which movie is that scene?
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>>80946596
wtf is this? wtf is that stupid kid/wtf is he wearing/wtf is he doing?
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>>80950823
He's probably not a cocky prick when he's Clark Kent, which is when he'd care about alienating other people. Movie was pre-JL so up to then he'd only really met villains that required a very small portion of his strength to handle. Suddenly Batman shows up, picks a fight while trying to question him like a gotham street thug, it's no wonder he was a bit contemptuous.
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>>80943336
>The sheer number of times in canon that Batman has been corrupted or taken over by mind control bullshit is retarded

I'm gonna need a list for every time that happened.
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>>80951267
Justice League: War
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>>80943303
I love this page.
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>>80944975
Bantz blindness is a major issue for American youth.
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>>80952750
Ship 'em off to Australia, they'll learn to handle the bantz soon enough.
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>>80942786
Superman is and has always been a douche. He's also annoying with his excessive moralfaggotry and Gary Stu qualities when he judges people because they're not perfect.

Which is why people like batman more.
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>>80952885
I'm guessing this is your favorite character.
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>>80943173
He's a Chad
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>>80952885
>Superman
>judgmental

It's almost like you've never actually read a comic
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>>80952981
It's almost as if someone had put some random casual superman stereotypes in a blender, drank the results and then shat out that post.
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>>80942786
It's not his first time.


But seriously, just like when writing geniuses you can't have morally bankrupt authors write good natured heroes.
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>>80952885

Wow, you are a literal living cancer.
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>>80942786
not every universe's superman can be perfect my guy. sometimes they get kind of a douchey one. sometimes they get a black one. sometimes he dies.
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>>80943303
>Get to the point and make it a line

Fucking brilliant where is it from
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I can't stand the New 52 movies they just try so hard to be cool and marvel like and end up shitting the bed.
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>>80943751
Yeah. I think people forget this was very early in their super hero personas
I think the most off character thing that happened was Batman nonchalantly revealing his identity.
And yes. I know it happens in the comic but I still don't think that makes sense.
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>>80945746
I don't read Superman. But isn't she supposed to be a materialistic cunt?
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The cocky, more smug Superman isn't a totally alien portrayal.

The kind of Superman that would be kind of a smug asshole to mere mortals that dared inconvenience him in the most minor ways was pretty much how he acted in his early years of publication(hell, look at Action Comics #1), and wasn't afraid to style on some niggas just because he could.

And this early portrayal was reconciled with his modern post-Crisis incarnation to create the New 52 version of Clark Kent, who while noble and dedicated to heroic ideals instilled in him by his human parents, wasn't afraid to be a little playfully arrogant.

Of course, given that we don't have Action Comics in the movie and instead we're just introduced to this version of Superman with no context beyond he's fucking Superman, and the general weakness of the script and source material, he's just gonna come off as an asshole who likes teasing Batman and flirting with Wonder Woman.
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