Why do you hate my show, /co/?
>>80936344
I liked your show, I just don't think it needs a second season. Save it for characters who have more material to work with.
>>80936344
I personally don't
worst body odor in MCU
>>80936344
Because the central character is an idiot.
>I'm going to let Kilgrave murder and abuse innocent people rather than kill him because I need to exonerate this girl I've never met before.
>>80936344
Bitches always bitching, bad character development and sucky use of a villain.
>>80936378
This.
>>80936403
>implying that's a bad thing
>>80936344
I don't. I really enjoyed it.It's your fucking comic book I hate.
>>80936344
I like your show. It gets a bit boring sometimes. Filler episodes are obvious. But I like your show. Even though OC comic was miles better.
>>80936344
I don't hate it tho, it's bretty gud.
If it was a choice between your show and Daredevil's however, the choice is obvious.
>>80936430
>>80936344
I thought your show was pretty good... I just don't think it has anywhere interesting enough to go from here to justify successive seasons as a standalone series.
You'd be better off doing Heroes For Hire once Luke Cage finishes its single series.
>>80936344
>Why do you hate my show, /co/?
It doesn't have Frank franking people with his machinefrank. it's, frankly, shit.
>>80936344
I don't, I just like Daredevil's better, especially season 2.
>>80936516
For you.
In addition I'd like to say that when the second season drops that I hope it'll be her and Luke with Iron Fist recurring frequently.
because its a snoozefest
>>80936471
>>80936629
>>80936632
Who here /can'tFrankup/?
>>80936430
I bet when she farts little bits of parsley come flying out. Like confetti.
>poot
I won!
>>80936344
I don't hate it, I just think the script needed to go through two more drafts before filming to fix the pacing and tension issues. There needs to be a better reason to not kill Kilgrave first chance beyond just 'a girl who is willing to go to jail if it means Kilgrave dies would go to jail if he dies'
>>80936344
I didn't. But it was painfully obvious that David Tennant carried the show on his back and you killed him. There's nothing for me to get invested in with an S2 because the only reason to care about the show is ded.
>>80936344
I started out enjoying the show, but every time Kilgrave was captured and then inexplicably escapes made me like it less and less. Nearly dropped the show when Jessica gets knocked out by a woman and Kilgrave escapes for a 3rd time.
>>80936344
you stole luke cages innocence
>Jessica drinking
>Jessica having a hangover
>the annoying neighbours being annoying
>the junkie neighbor being a junkie
>Killgrave being the baddie in the shadows
>Luke Cage being very disquietingly erotic
>JJ's irritating friend being irritating
>Carrie Ann Moss making butchy dyke faces
>rinse and repeat
What was so good about this series, again?
Well, like the first season of Daredevil you were four episodes longer than you should have been.
Everybody loved it. Stop rewriting history.
is there Bendis speak in the show?
>>80937068
Bendis speak?
>>80936916
>Jessica made pure hasbundo Luke impure
>>80936378
Yeah. I'd rather see her in a supporting role in a She-Hulk series. SINGLE FEMALE LAWYER
Having lots of sex
>>80936344
But I liked it, Ritter!
Needs Frank though.
>>80936344
You failed my three episode tolerance test. We had a three hour date and you just didn't interest me.
>>80937164
Everything needs Frank though, even shows like the Office.
>>80937092
They speak like Bendis.
Didn't kiss Trish. Please kiss Trish.
There are things I do like about this show. Luke Cage is awesome, Trish I really like, and there are some great moments.
But the biggest flaws are
>>Almost the entire show is devoted to catching Kilgrave
>>They capture him 3 times and he escapes by their incompetence 3 times
>>Jessica during the subway scene made me start to want to root against her
>>A lot of the death was cheap and had no lasting consequences
>>Really weak ending
>>80937164
And Frank needs us
>>80937194
>The Offrank
>Franks and Recreation
>30Frank
>Seinfrank
>Frank and Grace
>The Unfrankable Frank Castle
Jessica Jones: The Frank Edit
>Kilgrave at coffee shop
>Frank taking Franking position on opposing building rooftop
>"Bang"
>Mind Controller has his mind painted against the wall
>>80937324
>The Unfrankable Frank Castle
yes please
>>80937229
>>>Jessica during the subway scene made me start to want to root against her
Her torturing the helpless villain that was powerless against her made me root for him. She was a meta and none of his juju worked on her. That's not how you make a villain threatening. It didn't work like that in the mini. By the end of it, I wanted her to fall under his spell again.
>>80937229
>Luke Cage is awesome
He was ruined for me with the dead wife obsession.
>>80936953
That was every episode like holy shit. I don't feel like anyone really expanded there character at all or learned any lesson at all.
>>80937302
He already has the greatest IRL Uncle the world could ask for.
>>80937229
>Not Loveing based Nuke.
He was actually my favorite character fallowed by Pre-Attack Trish and then Luke Cage.
So how well would Frank fair against Luke Cage? Keep in mind a point blank shotgun blast did some damage to Luke
>>80937302
Does anybody have a pic of him in his full costume when he's sniping Ninjas?
>>80936344
I actually like it. Jessica was still a dumb bitch for not killing Kilgrave sooner.
because you look like that chick who does all the porn of PG
I cannot take you seriously
>>80937461
Well, I don't have one of the sniping but
OK WHAT IF
THERE WAS A SUPERHERO
WHO JUST KILLS PEOPLE
BUT
YOU CAN'T HOLD HIM EMOTIONALLY ACCOUNTABLE BECUZ HE HAD A HARD LIFE SO THE FOOLS IN THE AUDIENCE WON'T FEEL CHALLENGED BY HIM
>>80937499
That's good enough.
>>80937460
Frank shoves a grenade down his throat. Wears his skin as a suit.
>>80937302
I wasn't on /co/ for a few day because i was watching daredevil season 2. When did this glorious frank meme start.
>>80936404
To be fair that is basically the crux of the show and 90% of what she does is trying to stop him doing anything short of killing him be ause of the aforementioned crux of the show. Every time Killgrave kills someone she tries to do something drastic from putting herself into jail to going without sleep for days.
>>80936344
I liked your show, Jessica, I just liked Matt's show a lot more.
>>80937547
It started since Jon was cast and pictures started coming out.
Am I the only one that didn't like Jessica at all? I understand that "sympathetic assholes" are the hot new thing, but I couldn't identify with her. Instead of thinking "She drinks way too much and hates waking up? She's just like me!" I just wanted her to stop being a jerk to everybody.
>>80937368
>her karmic punishment for torturing the rapist who ruined her life should be to get raped by him for the rest of her life
>>80937547
Years ago
>>80937368
Kilgrave lacked intimidation since the first time he was captured.
![MV5BMjQyODg5Njc4N15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwMzExMjE3NzE@._V1_UY222_CR0,0,150,222_AL[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/gmrjC1r.jpg "MV5BMjQyODg5Njc4N15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwMzExMjE3NzE@._V1_UY222_CR0,0,150,222_AL[1].jpg")
>>80937527
Yes, Anon, it made $700,00,00.
>>80937368
Yep. I had to stop watching the series at episode 9 because I was starting to root for Kilgrave and I didn´t want to see him die.
>>80937547
>>80937581
Get the fuck out, newfags. This shit started on /b/ circa 2008.
>>80937028
DD S2 was as well honestly. Netflix should cut their shows to 10 episodes or even 8 episodes like some brit shows, but they won't ever do that because the longer the show the more time people spend on the site
>>80936344
>>80937229
To be fair she got sabotaged the last two times by other people's incompetence.
>>80936344
Not enough budget. effects are cheesy and cinematography is a tad offputting.
>>80937547
Way before that, because people kept storytiming Frank, and we focused on Ennis' run with Dillon
>pretty interesting insight
>>80936344
2
>>80937660
BIG
>>80937499
I havent finished yet but out of curiosity, what inspires him to start wearing the skull?
>>80937681
>>80937660
It's not the show's fault you have a micro penis
>>80937660
wow, you're so triggered by an interracial pairing your either made or saved a sex webm.
i bet you spend a lot of time on BLACKED as well, don't you? we have the closet for gays, we really need a term for these types of people.
>>80937660
The worst part is this belongs to a universe owned by DISNEY.
And both JJ and DD overuse shot/reverse shot editing.
>>80937697
A newspaper runs a picture of his x ray
>>80937697
Nothing. He finds some gear with an oddly skull shaped design, paints it, and makes it his symbol
>>80937613
his charm and whit and what makes him a great villain, his appearance doesn't need to be imposing, just his character.
>>80936953
David Tenant depicting a legit psychopath who could recognize and emulate normal human behavior but never understand it
everything with him buying her childhood house and not understanding why Jessica didn't love him was great
>>80937697
When he saw the newspaper declaring his death and the image of the skull from his "autopsy"
You know guy know why i hate jessica so much?
She could have used Killgrave.
He saved 3 lives just because she asked him to.She could use him to save so many more lives.And who knows,maybe even save him in some way.From what i remember,he liked the fact that he saved those people.He's still a kid really,throwing tantrums and all,but for the first time,someone had control over him,not the other way around.
Some people say that he's a criminal and a rapist,and i think that he's worth saving only because i like the character.That may be true,but that doesn't change the fact that jessica didnt used his powers to save people just because she wanted revenge.He raped you,yes,but you can use him for good.
You don't know if you want to be overt or allegory.
Too many unlikable characters.
Stole most of the character elements that make Luke Cage interesting so he can never properly star or co-star in a series.
>>80937697
he looks at the x-ray of his head with the bullet in it and just decides it
>>80937728
Who cares? Children know all this shit nowadays. Besides, this isn´t meant for kids anyway.
>>80937324
What would Castle become?
>>80937769
He´s like nuclear power. He can be extremely destructive as it was his original purpose, but in the right hands he can be a great gift to humanity.
>>80937806
Castle, Frank
As a huge fan of the original Alias series, I loved your show. Also, there's clearly more to do with Nuke and Roxxon who gave Jessica her powers.
>>80937805
no anon that's the american way you see. decapitating a man with a car door? fine. burning nobu alive? fine blood and guts? bring it on. but sex? THINK OF THE CHILDREN. i'm so tired of that shit
Anyone else kind of bugged that the larger MCU doesnt really acknowledge some things in the netflix MCU? Which yeah I get it, "small scale vs big scale" and whatnot but at least a throwaway line with Daredevil or Frank. I mean Spider Man is street level
>>80937660
>>80937681
I liked the parring in the comics but this was a little offputting. Then again i just dislike on camera sex scenes in shows/movies in general
>>80937806
CASTLE
A
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T
L
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>>80937203
They speak like Bendis?
I found the characters bland and unlikable, and the story wasn't at all compelling
really all there is to it, it was just a boring ass show.
>>80937672
He isn't blame Jessica Jones for that, he's blaming the writers for it.
>>80937603
>I just wanted her to stop being a jerk to everybody.
I think you're supposed to think this.
I know I felt deep satisfaction when Luke found out about Jessica murdering his wife and was completely disgusted with her. 100% deserved it.
>>80937901
Bendis?
>>80937851
avengers are world-famous celebrities. why the fuck would they, however, know about jessica jones or luke cage or even daredevil? thor doesn't even read the papers
>>80937769
that he was swearing blind to Jessica that he can turn over a new leaf, then torturing the housekeepers a scene later was proof that you could never trust him. He was only listening to Jessica because he still believed she could come to love him. the second he becomes disillusioned of that, or gets bored of her, or finds some other bit of green grass to lust over, all bets would be off.
I didn't hate it, but I really wish that Kilgrave was still alive and that he didn't rape Jessica. What made him so fucked up/terrifying in the comic was that he didn't.
Jessica unfortunately is the least interesting character in the show. Luke and Kilgrave kind of carried the show. The only thing that really bugged me was how light everyone treated the implications of mind control, especially Miss Hellcat
>>80937947
You know, Bendis.
>>80938000
The writer? That Bendis?
>>80937961
Thats the point,there's no one like jessica for him.
Don't expect him to go from a fucking psycho to a nice guy in couple of hours.
He has to be thought empathy like a child,because no one ever did when he was a kid.
>>80937955
I feel like Tony would, you know?
>>80938016
Yeah, Bendis, that guy that writes.
>>80937849
The 'one fuck limit' on PG-13 exists because the violence is simulated but the cursing isn't. That's why Family Guy and South Park get away with all the shit they pull.
>>80936675
Why is she such a slut?
>>80936344
I liked Kilgrave's show, but it just wasn't Daredevil.
>>80937955
Which I get. But then you have Tony magically taking in Spider Man, a street level hero considered a myth, and letting him join in. Showing someone at least reads the paper. Which Im not implying we should have full on crossovers Im just saying SOMEONE should acknowledge Punisher or Daredevil exist. Luke and Jess not so much.
>>80936632
i thought season 2 failed to pop as much as the first season. It had some very good highs, but some pretty low lows, too. In particularI hated how they redid the interpersonal drama dynamic from season 1. Oh sure DD having trouble balancing his work and heroic activities was a given, but his issues with Foggy adn Karen were practically the same shit from season 1. Then FINALLY revealing his identity to Karen is treated like some huge cliffhanger after dragging it out for two seasons.
I'm not really sure what they'll do with JJ season 2. Like people said her material is a little light. Maybe it's a chance to add to her, though.
Actually what I'd rather have than any of these shows is an entire series about Ben Urich investigating shit and getting involved with various heroes. I really liked his character in DD, they did some good things with him but he felt wasted in the end. Well, literally, but him investigating Purple Man in JJ would have been a nice tie-in. Not that Rosario Dawson wasn't, she's great in all of this.Karen replacing Urich just wasn't the same, even though it was obviously where they were going since DD season 1.
>>80937324
Seinfeld already had more than enough Frank, and it was glorious.
>>80938179
ONE BATCH TWO BATCH GEORGE!
>>80937527
But what if
...just listen to me
guys
seriously guys
what if...
they wrote really compelling villains and supporting cast, good enough to carry a series on its own?
Wouldn't that negate the need for a character arc?
Guys?
>>80937769
They had an episode about this. 1) Killgrave was still torturing people while supposedly being a "hero," and 2) it's not someone's job to be a walking conscience to a murderer who can supposedly do great good.
>>80938179
Same with Always Frank in Philadelphia
The gratuitous sex. I am an adult if I wanted to see sex I would watch porn. I can understand it in old movies and tv shows where it is risque to have it but I can look at people fucking anytime I like and it just cheapens it.
>>80938267
>2) it's not someone's job to be a walking conscience to a murderer who can supposedly do great good
If it were anyone else I'd agree, but Jessica has literally nothing better to do.
>>80937660
I can't for the life of me understand 4chan's obsession with interracial sex.
>>80938526
Over in /tinfoilhat/ they think third parties are spamming BLACKED threads to turn us against interracial.
>>80936344
Because it isn't Tall Slut, No Panties.
>>80939041
>>80938811
>>80938779Even if they weren't fucking blacks they still wouldn't be fucking you
I like it.
>>80939329
Is that honestly why you think people dislike it? I just don't want to see ugly people in porn.
Godawful pacing and a plot that could/should have been wrapped up in about half the time, mainly.
I also fucking hated the main character in a "I really don't care what happens to her" kind of way, which dampened my interest in the series.
>>80937852
Luke was right to freak out that she had sex with him after she knew she killed the love of his life. That was pretty messed up, but then Jessica's entire season was largely based around people not making the best of life choices.
>>80938526FWIW I find it kind of funny how recent studies show that humans who left Africa have a percentage of Neanderthal and/or Denisovan genes, so technically the groups that stayed in Africa are purer Homo Sapien.
Which ultimately doesn't really matter a damn. The more important lesson to gain is that it is true humanity has a biological Captain Kirk Imperative to explore new lands, seek out new life and new civilizations, and make sweet tender love to them. You'd think 4chan would be all for that. Or at least our natural instinct for Delicious Brown would override whatever /pol/ influence there is in these threads.
>>80939517
Out of Africa is a theory not a fact you dumb fuck.
>>80939407
The plot could have been but wouldn't have been. Purple Man set it up that way. It's why his triumphant return into her life involved recreating what he did to her with Hope. Jessica did all this to try to save someone who was in her exact same situation. Hope was quite literally her hope. It dragged out everything, kept her from killing Purple Man so many times. It couldn't be a coincidence, he knew exactly how to push Jessica's buttons. Even when you aren't under his power he knows how to manipulate people.
Even Hope knew this in the end so she took herself out of the equation by committing suicide, finally freeing Jessica to do what she had to do.
Honestly what pissed me off is you'd have people like the freak sister and those other douches who got Hope into that fucked up no-win situation and they never once owned up to how much they screwed it up and it was their fault that young woman died.
>>80939402
but porn never uses attractive men. no matter what race the actor is, they're always mildly retarded looking and incapable of conveying any desirability.
>>80939517
Relevant.
>>80938239
Does JJ have any more compelling villains to drive her series? Okay DD season 2 was driven more by Frank and his anti-heroic crusade for most of the season. The Nobu ninja stuff was mostly at the end and Elektra proved a distraction to DD more than anything else.
Whether she gets a new main villain or not honestly I wished the JJ had a bit more actual detective work. She was less an actual detective and mostly using scam tactics. Not that those two are mutually exclusive. Anyway since her practice was picking up at the end, whether she wanted it or not, maybe they will next season.
>>80939647
Science isn't concerned with facts. If you seek truth, take a philosophy course.
Enough with the off-topic bait.
>>80936344
The Hope Schlottman arc, which was the main storyline, had no payoff. Seriously, she just kills herself after she's released from jail?
Then there's the lesbian divorce arc. So boring, so bland. And how is Trinity's GF guilty for murder? When you kill someone to prevent that person deliberately killing a defenseless person, I'm pretty sure that's legal.
Also, I know it's more plausible, but Kilgrave should have been a recurring villain rather than some guy you killed off. Personally, I feel that he has the most interesting powers in the show.
I did grow to like JJ. As whiny and annoyingly dumb as she is, she's a perfect example that not every metahuman is meant for superhero work.
Luke Cage is also pretty boring. I know that it wouldn't work in the 2010's, but from what little I've seen on /co/, I like his Blaxploitation character better than just Mack with invincibility.
Trish was really hot, though, to me, she's the second-cutest chick following Simmons from AoS.
I also like your supporting cast. Malcolm, Trish, Simpson, hell, even Robin all grew on me.
All in all, not as good as Daredevil Season 1, but decent.
>>80939804
any street level supercrook, crime lord, or corrupt businessman could be repurposed as a JJ villain
Everyone I know likes it. It just wasn't as good as Daredevil is all. I also think it doesnt need more seasons. It should be replaced with a Moon Knight or Blade series.
>>80939402
they hire specifically for dick size and fuck ability. They aren't commercials n sheit
>>80936344
Nuke was 100% right about killing the purple guy but he was made out to be a villain for some reason.
Jess and Trish are unlikeable bitches and are both dumb as hell, but this is excused because Strong Independent Female.
Krysten Ritter looks like she's never thrown a punch in her entire life.
Everyone is damn boring.
Lesbian Carrie Anne Moss' affair was boring.
Killgrave support group was dumb and boring.
What few fight scenes there are absolutely suck. Seriously cringeworthy.
Pacing was off and Killgrave escaping all the time was annoying, but killing him off was worse because he was the most compelling part of the show.
>>80936344
It was good, but not great. It really missed the point of the character and transformed her into something unoriginal and ultimately boring.
I hope they do more investigative stuff, like the MGH plot, but who knows. 7/10.
>>80936344
Because
>/pol/ -comics and cartoons
Other than that, JJ was as equivalently flawed and successful as any other show.
I liked it, though the genre practically changed halfway through.
It also gave us the MCU "totally not Weapons Plus".
>>80936344
You could have been a really solid six episode series.
>>80939989
>Trish are unlikeable bitches and are both dumb as hell
I hate you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeD8aVVT620
>Luke Cage trailer
>Luke Cage is shown
>Rap music
>>80940198
would you have preffered country?
>>80940189
I am nourished by your hatred so that's fine. But why?
>>80940198
Dude is based off old blaxploitation movies. Were you expecting polka music?
>>80940226
I want that black Trump supporter to play Luke Cage. New direction for the character.
>>80939907
That's true. Oh hell, I actually forgot. There's the whole mystery of where her powers game from. That secret program that was enhancing people, plus you know Nuke will be back.
>>80940260
No, I would have preferred blaxploitation music.
NUKE WAS RIGHT
>>80940304
>Black Trump supporter punching out liberal protestor carrying a sign labeled KKK while another liberal protestor right behind him is wearing a KKK pointed hood.
It's a strange world we're living in.
>>80939997
>something unoriginal and ultimately boring.
Jessica Jones is, factually and intentionally, a bootleg Jessica Drew
>>80940400
At least Frank liked his music old school.
>>80936378
How's this:
She's now working private investigator full time. She's stopped drinking. A bunch of different, seemingly unrelated clients ask her to retrieve some lost piece of personal heirloom that's been stolen. All contracts have a main suspect, they just can't find them.
She goes around investigating and finds the stolen stuff and retrieves it to her clients. All her clients seem very standoff-ish, like they are feeding her bullshit and sending her on wild goose chases and suspicious runs, but all the targets are crooks, so it doesn't make much sense for regular people to be fucking with her. She starts to get paranoid.
At some point one of the first clients shows up again with a new, completely unrelated case for her to solve, but she doesn't want to because she thinks he's fucking with her. He claims not to know what she's talking about even after she beats the shit out of him, sending him through a window out of frustration. She occasionally starts seeing different clients/robbers/people around her she already knew acting completely different and like they never saw her before. The jobs become weirder and start including stuff that obviously don't belong to the clients, so she stops doing them and clients stop showing up as much.
She gets suspicious and starts chasing the former clients and interrogating them, but none of them knows her or what she's talking about. She begins to break down and get paranoid about Kilgrave having come back. The whole season has that uneasy feeling that someone is fucking with her on purpose, like the first chapters of Alias. Pieces of the puzzle don't match without memory wipe/mind control. She visits the grave of, well, Kilgrave, and it's untouched. The paranoia starts getting to her and she becomes restless and aggressive and almost begins drinking again. She eventually doubts it and digs the grave only to find a skeleton wearing a decomposing black suit, with a purple tie. It's neck is broken.
>>80939981
That's not why he was the villain. He was a villain because he went apeshit and started murdering people left and right.
Very unFrank.
>>80936344
It didn't have the authentic emotional nuance of the flash and arrow.
YEAH
>>80940526
(cont)
And after whatever climactic revelation to be decided she starts putting clues together about the missing heirloom from the early cases, and somehow tracks it down to the residence of one guy:Dmitri Smerdyakov, the chameleon. He came across one of those masks from TWS. It is broken/he doesn't know how to fully use it, so he needs to use someone's face from close to Jessica's block because it times out after a while. With some preparation and good acting he can create his characters without being recognized.Turns out, he never meant to fuck with Jessica in particular. He just wanted a decent PI to find stuff that he knew a bunch of his old crooked friends had, but he couldn't find. After robbing all his former associates and seeing Jessica throw that one repeated dude out the window, he found out she had powers and started asking her for different, riskier stuff. She was basically robbing for him. Turns out, it wasn't about Jessica at all, she was just the first decent PI that Dmitri found and he just took it from there. The fact that she wasn't being targeted serves as an eye-opener and gives her the self-confidence she needs to stop thinking she's the center of the universe always being the victim on purpose.
Mix it up with some Hellcat B-story and there you go.
>>80939900
>The Hope Schlottman arc, which was the main storyline, had no payoff. Seriously, she just kills herself after she's released from jail?
That was the point. See >>80939652
>>80940526
>She's now working private investigator full time. She's stopped drinking.
I will cut you
>>80940581
Fine, she keeps drinking throughout. Helps the story, in hindsight.
>>80940198
>Harlem level
>african beats start playing
>>80940567
Oh shit
>>80940642
>>80940630
The trick is to keep using a mystery/slow psychologic thriller of the first season. If they go with just a detective show, they've fucked up.
>>80940526
>>80940567
10/10 would watch.
>>80940567
>>80940526
Unfortunately I see this falling into a similar trap as the first season: this story would probably work better as a nine episode series and would need some serious padding to hit thirteen.
>>80938061
Actually teaching empathy to an emotionally disturbed adult who has gone their life without a moral compass that has been established by society is nearly impossible. Typically the only thing you can do is instill in them an understanding of the consequences of their actions 'rape this person, get arrested etc'. But having a drunk, emotionally damaged, private dick with no social skills and poor impulse control instill empathy in a psychopath narcissist who can control peoples actions with a word is fucking ludicrous.
It blows me away people are honestly like 'why didn't she just turn him to a force for good'. Really? like yeah its that fucking easy. Just give up ones own life, freedom, autonomy and aspirations so you can spend the rest of your days babysitting a mind controlling rapist inhuman monster in the off chance you can eventually make him stop doing horrible things to people.
>>80939981
He was right when he wanted to kill the purple man from the start. The most right of anyone really, purple man was a dangerous psychopath who was completely immune from normal law enforcement.
He a villain as soon as he killed old black "2 years from retirement" cop who probably had a name.
>>80940256
Pathetically acting like Hellcat wasn't best character.
>>80940730
>mystery/slow psychologic thriller of the first season
>Mysterio for S2 villain?
>>80940824
Leave mysterio for spiderman, dude. I went out of my way to find a simple enough to do villain in a tv budget.
>>80940824
Mysterio is too good for Jessica Jones, I want him to be in the Spider-Man movie.
>>80940824
>IMplying Jessica Jones would have the budget for the fabulous Mysterio we deserve
>>80940824
No, Mysterio deserves better than Jessica Jones.
>The Kilgrave show featuring Jessica Jones minus Kilgrave
no thanks bruhs
>>80936378
>He doesn't want JJ season 2 where Foggy is a main cast member.
>JJ is always moody and depressing
>Foggy is the literal opossite, joking around and being a bro in general
>together they work for Hogarth and solve cases
It writes itself
>>80936344
Because your bullshit was like watching live-action Korra: boring, trite, poorly written, with a monumentally stupid protag that never learns shit until it's too late even while everyone around her tells her how not to fuck up. Also, not nearly as much focus on the actual interesting characters in the show, like Luke.
At least Korra had a bunch of characters in it that I wanted to fuck.
>>80941076
Sounds like a sitcom.
>>80936344
Single focused main storyline the entire time who kills the best thing about the show. 6/10
Daredevil S1 did a better job balancing a main story and sub plots.
Daredevil S2 blows away much of S1, despite needing to improve on how to frame some of the action scenes.
Luke Cage should be fun because it's from the man behind Almost Human.
>>80941086
>Bitches talk too much, give me my thick hard chocolate husbando!
>>80941086
>not nearly as much focus on the actual interesting characters in the show, like Luke.
I honestly found the actor kind of boring. He does the cool Luke well, but the mad Luke not so much.
>>80937806
Frank.
>>80941086
You know Luke is getting his own show very soon, right?
>>80937368
>>80937619
>there are people that are this retarded
How the fuck can you root for a faggot who went around killing, abusing and raping people for his own simple pleasures? There's nothing sympathetic about him especially when you find out the truth about what his parents were doing. You guys seriously can't be this retarded.
>>80941751
>How the fuck can you root for a faggot who went around killing, abusing and raping people for his own simple pleasures?
Edgelords, anon. Edgelords.
>>80938441
Hey now! She's got tons of cheating spouses to expose for money!
Because it's one of the worst pieces of television I've seen all year.
>>80936344
It was boring. But hey Daredevil and AoS are boring as fuck too. I just watch them because I'm a capefag that wants to support live action adaptions of comic characters and they do have brief moments of amazing stuff. Like episode 8 of AKA when she tries to work with Kilgrave. It was so weird and challenged her in a way that made me think of what the fuck would I do if I was in that situation?
>>80941429
And Jessica Jones isn't getting a second season.
What does that tell you?
>>80937660
Damn, I wish I was fucking her.
>>80937613
Pretty much this.
>>80937741
His character wasn't imposing either. He was a complete bitch.
>charm
He had no charm at all. He was a boring manchild faggot.
>>80942056
>He was a boring manchild faggot.
Oh, so that's why you didn't like him.
>>80936378
Something like....Patsy Walker AKA Hellcat Season 1 featuring Jessica Jones?
>>80942092
Kind of hard to like a villain who the show tells you is scary, yet extremely pathetic. Not even pathetic in a terrifying way, like Trinity from Dexter. Just simply pathetic.
>>80942166
His powers are scary on their own. The weirder the dude is even worse.
>>80936344
Her super strength was inconsistent
She could throw guys and catch punches from dudes twice her size but then she'd be tackled or knocked out by some old bitch.
Trying to tackle someone stronger than you is pretty hard to do. It should be pretty impossible when someone is like 4x stronger than you. Her bones should be tougher too to support her strengthend muscles and tendons so knocking her out would have to take some effort.
Also that shit with Simpson/Nuke was fucking terrible. Annoying character, annoying actor and he does some heinous shit to more likable characters later on.
I know they're setting up for the Defenders so we can see DD and Luke and the others taking on IGH as a drug by the Yakuza or Owl like MGH was in Bendis DD run but the storyline felt random as fuck
>>80942203
>muh powers
Powers are never scary on their own. They're as scary as their owner. Which in Kilgrave's case is not at all because he's a bitch with a shitty "wahh I had hard childhood so I'm a cunt" backstory.
Seriously, I hate how /co/ overrates this shitty villain.
>>80941898
That jessica jones was received well.
>>80942311
>Seriously, I hate how /co/ overrates this shitty villain.
yeah but thats just because you're a fag. i mean opinions on the character aside if you honestly have that much of a problem with others liking something you don't like...it's because you're a fag.
>>80942343
Not well enough to get a second season.
Because Hannibal already did everything Jessica Jones set out to do (minus hamfisted feminist undertones) and did it better.
>>80942311
Mind control is a pretty scary prospect dude.
>>80942397
No clearly it was. because they okayed a second season. You or some other people you know or on /co/ clearly do not represent the majority because if almost noone liked it, they wouldn't bother making another season.
>>80941076
>>80941135
2 Broke Girls - starring JJ and Foggy
I know it's sacrilegious to say this on /co/, but rewatching DD and JJ S1 in anticipation for DD S2 I ended up enjoying Jones more then Daredevil. I just liked the character stuff in Jones more, and the fact that is was so focused on the people rather then plot made me able to forgive the slow pace easier.
And the screaming over the feminist undertones was full-on retarded. Apparently Daredevil dealing with so many masculine-focused plotlines was just fine, but heaven forbid a show starring a woman deal with female issues or say anything at all.
>>80942430
So is the ability to make someone powerless in their sleep then kill them. Even more so than mind-control.
Didn't stop Freddy Krueger from becoming a joke of a villain.
>>80942397
Herp derp
https://www.instagram.com/p/BApbHKHo3pa/
>>80942467
I forgot what thread I was in for a second and thought you meant J Jonah Jameson.
>>80942471
Honestly I liked JJ more than DD the first time I watched them. No idea why DD gets so much praise here. The show felt really tight with the first episode but then the whole autsitic Kingpin and those stupid Russian brothers and all that garbage with Karen and what they did with Ben and the lame fights really brought it down.
>>80942405
hannibal just replaced the feminist undertones with gay overtones
>>80942387
You know, when all you see is "OMG BEST VILLAIN EVER SAVED THE SHOW" everywhere for a character you find very boring, you'd start hating it too.
>>80942491
>J Jonah Jameson and Senor Foggy as 2 Broke Girls
absolutely incredible
>>80942484
someone who always kills their victims isn't very scary
>>80936344
Kinda-sorta fugly.
>>80942610
Only if you're a contrarian faggot. In which case, try 23 boards to the right.
>>80942657
Neither is someone who mind-controls people.
>>80942471
But dude heres the deal. Whent he white guy punches bad guys and his muscles are all bulging and everyones getting punched thats cool and not designed to appeal to anyone in particular. Certainly not me as a guy who has read comics about white guys punching bad guys with their big muscles for my entire fucking life.
But when Jessica Jones does things about women its obviously PANDERING. Why would they do things that arent pande....errr i mean why wouldnt they just do normal things that I just HAPPEN to enjoy. I mean we have only 2 seasons of daredevil, 2 captain america movies (soon to be 3) 3 iron man movies, and 2 thor movies. i'm honestly fucking tired of it having to all be about women these days by having two avengers movies feature sometimes more than just one woman and jessica jones getting a second season instead of cancelling her and just having another guy focused series and the other three guy focused series.
and if they have to have a Jessica jones series why does she have to be the main character. Why can't she just wear a skimpy outfit while we cut to the super muscles of luke cage. But nope can't do things so they fit my personal desires....gotta pander to women. Fucking MCU is ruined.
>>80942610
no I wouldn't. when LoK s1 was airing everyone was praising Amon to high heaven, but he did nothing for me. I just dealt with it and went back to cabbage posting
>>80942666
>LE CONTRARIAN
Worst meme ever.
>>80942536
Yeah but JJ sucked. It starts off nice but then the whole whiny Purple man, and that stupid nuke cop and all that garbage with Trish walker and what they did to Luke cage, and the lame detective investigations really brought it down.
>>80942696
Does Marvel even have any female characters they can use? You have Widow and Jones. Patsy isn't even a superhero in this universe. The bitches in AoS who are never going to be in anything outside of that.
All the X-men chicks are at Fox, F4 as well. Spidey is kinda jointly shared. So basically they just have She-Hulk and Ms. Marvel and Captain Marvel right?
>>80942610
Nah i'm okay with others liking things I do not and going on about why they like it. I actually appreciate the enjoyment people have for any kind of story. I'm not some mewling faggot who honestly gets ass-red because others dare to like a thing I don't like in large numbers. That just sounds pathetic.
>>80942594
Small price to pay for everything else being better.
>tfw despite being more action-oriented series Jessica Jones never had an action scene as good as this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I5yFjdfVX0
>>80942750
Yeah I can see that. It just wasn't as brought down as much. Maybe because the show's later episodes are far more interesting than the earlier ones which was the opposite for DD to me.
>>80942686
being forced to do fucked up things and then having to live with it is plenty scary
there is a man out there in MCU who ripped his own dick off and sodomised himself with it, and never understood why
>>80942769
Even with cosmic characters I can't think of anyone else, that's not a D-Lister or part of a team.
>>80942536
Rewatching S1 the biggest issue is they basically get to a point where the "third act" should start(Matt discovering Leland's identity from the Russian gangster) and then the show takes a 3-4 episode break to play around with ninjas and Scott Glenn just so they can drag the story out to 13 episodes. Now I'm not going to sit here and say that DD fighting ninjas wasn't awesome, but it was still empty padding. Jessica Jones had padding too, but the fact that it was more character interaction and development then just punching.
I dunno, I liked all the rape survivor undertones, it was an interesting place to take the characters and the fact that they explored different versions of it with the cast. They had a thematic concept and actually utilized it instead of just paying lip service to it, and I like it when people use these comic characters to explore deeper ideas then just "I like punching shit." The Nuke plotline wasn't handled great and the incest twins made me want to shove hot spikes in my eyes, but those were the only real issues I had with it.
I'm sure this makes me part of the SJW cuck agenda though, because liking something feminist makes me feminist just like me enjoying masculine action movies makes me a pro-gun conservative. You can't ever enjoy anything out of your personal wheelhouse, that's clearly literally impossible.
>>80942696
Breddy gud, anon.
>>80942807
Not really. Not scarier than dying while being completely powerless.
Again, powers are not scary. They're only as scary as the character who has them.
>>80942397
They announced a second season less than a week after it premiered where the fuck you been
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>you will NEVER be a moderatly attractive white female getting railed by a strong black man
why live
whats there to live for
>>80942769
Elsa Bloodstone who would make for a fantastic series/movie to help build up the supernatural side of things.
Monica Rambeau can be a series as well and they'd have their own buddy team up eventually. They're both good characters to expand outside of Hells Kitchen and NY considering their origins
Hopefully Colleen Wing and Misty Knight have far more energy and charisma than all the other MCU tv show characters. That could be a straight up action sock'em series that breaks the bank like the old tv show Fastlane did to Fox (did some really good camera work on that show)
>>80936344
Your supporting cast is fucking annoying and serve no purpose.
>>80942993
>this feel
I know it all too well.
I just wanna be a solid 7 white bitch who gets showered with attention and sex from stereotypical black guys. Why is life so unfair?
>>80942769
nah there are a few
>dagger of cloak and dagger (WHICH I WANT)
>spider-woman (might need a name change or work something out with sony)
>Elsa bloodstone (which i want as much as cloak and dagger. fucking modern nightstalkers with guest appearances by blade and ghost rider)
>Tigra
>Valkyrie
>she hulk which you mentioned
>the characters in runaways (obviously a team show)
>moonstone (if your doing a thunderbolts related thing)
>crystal
>agent brand
>songbird
>colleen wing (if you spin off misty knight from luke cage into a daughters of dragon show STARRING FUCKING SHANG CHI oh god i want this now)
>......................squirrel girl i guess
but yeah id actually like to see a few of those character get some live action spotlight but wow mentioning them all together it kinda blows me away how little so many of them are utilized.
>>80938016
Bendis :DD :D :DDDDD
>>80936344
The only people who hate it are people who see a woman and automatically assume it's sjw shit. They're almost as bad as sjws themselves.
>>80940490
>tfw it hits you where they might take stories to give JJ
>>80943072
Here's your (you)
>>80943053
Yeah a lot of comic wirters just stick with the old guard of Spidey, Iron Man, Cap,etc,etc
To be fair a lot of new books never really sell so I guess it's whatever
>>80943098
>To be fair a lot of new books never really sell so I guess it's whatever
The thing is its kind of a shit cycle.
>people hate when characters are changed to female or minority
>why dont they just make new characters or focus on lesser known ones in their own ongoing?
>original the character sells like shit and gets cancelled
>well that was because it sucked
Well shit apparently as far as I know everything sucks (because people sure as shit dont seem to enjoy avengers, iron man, spider-man, or x-men comics) but the only things that moderately sell is the same old shit. So clearly the guys who take preexisting popular characters and gender or race swap em know what theyre fucking doing cos those characters books are the only ones that ever fucking sell.
>>80943053
when you think about it, if JJ is already a success, what stops them from giving her other lesser heroes villains?
Like, its a very long shot to see Z-list spidey enemies on the movies, why not just give them to JJ for more seasons? Something like Agents of S.H.I.T.
>>80942907
>>80942471
Oh, fuck off, Vash. I know you're a tasteless self-righteous faggot so not much intelligence is expected from you, but shut up. Don't even pretend the show wasn't an obnoxiously unsubtle, dumb feminist soapboxing.
>Daredevil dealing with so many masculine-focused plotlines
I love how it's white knights who always the bigger sexists than those they condermn.
>>80936344
We never saw any armpit hair or someone commenting on how bad you smell.
>>80936344
All those scenes of semi-attractive women getting fucked and not a single tit shot.
Shame on you.
I don't, I really enjoyed it!
>>80942956
dying isn't scary because its zero sum. there's nothing, good or bad, after that
As an aside, did Luke Cage really do anything the entire season? I can't remember a single thing other than him being a sex object or fucking damsel for Jessica.
>>80943644
He found out about his wife and called her a piece of shit
>>80943644
The bar fight scene was short but kinda hilarious.
>>80937499
This scene bugged me. WTF did he need the gattling gun for? All he was doing was burning down his old house.
>>80936344
Yes. It was awful and so was she.
>>80943644
He gave the main character something that grounded her, humanized her a bit, give her a reason for her guilt while simultaneously adding a little mystery with why she was photographing him, while also setting him up for his own show.
>>80943644
Yeah, he helped Jessica out, even though he was being controlled. He also found the truth about his wife, which is why he was in HK in the first place.
Now to Harlem.
>>80943637
>dying isn't scary
Spoken like an idiot, true edgelord or someone disconnected from reality.
You can get over doing terrible shit.
You can't get over an omnipotent sadist making you his toy by turning what remains of your life into pure hell, then discarding you like trash for your loved ones to find.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waiA1uSgK3w
>>80943637
whoa there. You might want to have a bunch more philosophy lessons after the first before opening your mouth to spout shit.
>>80937337
Wasn't that Nukes plan too tho?
>>80936344
Because the fedora-tipping neckbeards on this board can't handle
>muh SJW
