I'm just waiting for the reveal that Homeworld were the good guys all this time. I want Steven to join Yellow Diamond where he rightfully belongs.
>>80929541
steven's a liberal shithead raised by lesbians, why would he ever do anything sensible or pragmatic?
>>80929541
>Confirmed that in order to colonize a planet all organic life has to die
Nah man, nah. Why not just colonize mars or venus if they aren't evil?
>>80929541
How can they be good guys if they destroy planets and commit mass genocide?
>>80929541
didn't they want to blow up earth? it's been ages
besides, if the parallel to TF still holds homeworld-gems are Decepticons; they go around killing all organics and hate them with a passion
>>80929595
It's probably some Galactus shit where the Planet has to be life supporting to have enough "life energy" to be an ideal spawning ground.
>giving power to authoritarian dictatorships just to feel "safe" and "stable"
nah, fuck off back to /pol/ Trumpeter
>>80929668
>Homeworld are Decepticons
Other way around. Autobots are closer toHomeworld as far as parallel motives go. The Decepticons, like the Crystals, wanted to create a hybrid of their own people with the humans for the sake of their dying race.
>>80929595
>>80929682
growing gems requires draining existing life on a planet
Gems are literally a virus that consumes life to propagate.
>>80929727
I bet you think the Roman Empire wasn't a good idea either.
>>80929624
women can't commit genocide and do nothing wrong ever
This is how Tumblr thinks
>>80929541
>peacefully occupied
>keep inferior lifeforms safe
Did you not see the giant holes in the projection of colonized Earth? I doubt that planet could still harbor biological life. Add onto that that a lot of the Homeworld gems have not looked kindly upon humans and biological life in general, or even other gems that have broken their rules, so I doubt colonization under gemkind would've been anything positive for Earth.
>>80929850
Collateral damage. Freedom is never free, in order to ensure freedom and prosperity sacrifices have to be made. Many people may die when freedom is pursued, but that is a sacrifice any competent and responsible leader must be willing to make.
What I wonder is, if the Homeworld can create billions of gems by colonizing just one planet, and they're colonized a bunch of systems, how can five measly gems have any chance of fighting them off?
Sounds like a lost battle already to me.
>>80929735
what.
>>80929541
I don't know if Homeworld is good, but I'm certain at least the gems there must see us all organics as a myriad of cthulhu-tier monstrosities, and the Crystal Gems are simply those who learned how to stomach looking at us.
pic related. it's human skin.
>>80929758
Soooooo
Humans?
But yes you are correct
I dont understand how more people dont realize this given the shape of the gem drills that reproduce more gems
They are literally virus shaped
>>80929947
Except you are in now way talking about freedom. You are talking about safety and many times the two are mutually exclusive and must be sacrificed for the other.
You really need to work on your shitposting anon its really bad
>>80929971
>billions
Citation needed
>>80929592
So... preserving your species, or at least one half of it, is somehow liberal shit-headedness?
I bet you'd sell out humanity for a handful of fiddle-faddle, you sack of shit.
No such thing as a good war, kiddo.
Which is, of course, bullshit.
>>80931901
>You are talking about safety and many times the two are mutually exclusive and must be sacrificed for the other.
Ask yourself: do you live in a free nation, or a safe nation? Are as authority and liberty mutually exclusive as you imply? One can certainly have the best interests of the people in mind while also keeping peace and order. If you give some people the freedom to choose, they make the wrong choice. That is a risk given by the authorities and put into the hands of the people.
Even fucking Sheev let some non-humans live in the Empire. He still had way more innocent lives on his hands than he did commendable acts.
>>80929541
Isn't human history in SU VASTLY different from ours thanks to Gem influence? I'm pretty sure there was some mention of now World Wars or something.
>completely eats worlds leaving them husks without any organic life left
They're basically a Tyranid fleet, dude. There's really no defending them.
>>80931835
>>80929758
HoShit. I just understood how the gem mines have been abandoned for thousands of years, yet not even a speck of vegetation has begun to grow there.
Drained of life is right.
>Kills planets
>Breeds beings built for a single purpose and never lets them explore outside of that purpose
>Willing to murder anyone who doesn't agree, and agree quickly at that
yeah they're fucking evil.
sorry but the show has to have a villain.
not everyone can be a "oh but they didn't understand loOOOOove" character.
>>80933786
They're sentient alien machines made to conquer planets. That's all they know how to do. Characters can be villains without being pure evil. Villains without motives is usually shitty writing
>>80934014
I'm saying they're an evil force. What they are doing is not good and should really be stopped, unless they have a secret good reason for it.
Frankly I don't even understand WHY they expand. They can conform to any gravity, they don't need sunlight or water or food or energy or oil. They don't need any resources- which are generally the primary basis for war. So what's the fuckin' deal, man?
>>80934084
Why do viruses / bacteria continue to spread?
Their sole purpose is to create more, simple as that.
>>80934084
Peridot already said they were "made" to conquer planets. My guess is they were invented by an ancient extinct race and didn't know what to do. Diamonds could have been used as some kind of main control system so they decided to be in charge. Artificial intelligent beings wandering with no one to tell them what to do so they just keep doing what they think they're supposed to do. Capture planets and make more of themselves. Over time they formed some kind of hierarchy to make things go smoother. The thought of their old creators are long gone. Perhaps only the diamonds remember them now? Maybe humans remind the rebelling gems of their old creators?
>>80934142
Yes but bacteria doesn't have sentient thought. Even if it's a poor one, there must be some emotional justification for conquest among the gems.
Also, I don't know if I totally buy your virus thing, since it's been pretty simple so far for Steven to turn gems against homeworld. But if I did, then the reasonable conclusion would be to handle HM the same way we do viruses- by killing them.
>>80934281
This I can buy. Basically the Diamonds saying "stay the course" because they're petrified of what the other option might be.
Though I doubt that we'll ever actually get that much backstory on gem society. Maybe I'll be proven wrong. hopefully.
>>80933636
america's native population never settled there due to all the gem monsters. Beach City was the first human settlement there in over five thousand years, and was founded a good hundred year later than the first British colony in America was in our world
>>80934014
'I was born to do these evil things' isn't a motive its a lacktherof.
>>80929541
>efforts are made to keep inferior lifeform subjects safe
But that's total bullshit though. It's been established and made very clear that the gem production sucks the life out of the planet and ruins the ecosystem and pretty much makes it inhabitable or unable to support life, and even if it didn't, their plans for how the colonies are in their final from look like nothing organic could survive.
Also you have YD straight-on showing disdain and revulsion for "organic" life and flat-out stating she doesn't give a shit about potential or possibilities, she wants the planet to DIE.
That's extremely clear. They're not the wise and benevolent overlords some people's headcanons claim.
>>80929541
You saw the moon episode, right? You think turning a planet full of life into Swiss cheese is something good guys would do?
>>80932192
Not that anon, but I live in a nation that exists and is not a destroyed wasteland incapable of supporting any life whatsoever. The gem's actions are not about "keeping peace and order", its total extermination, annihilation, destruction so that nothing viable remains.
>>80934538
It's either that or let the cluster eventually destroy everything. There is no easy solution here, it's better some organic life dies in creating a stable colony than the entire planet gets blown to smithereens left to its own devices. The clusters are the real villain here, not Homeworld.
>>80934520
I'm sure there is an archive with the species from all the planets that got turned into colonies.
>>80934615
The cluster.
As in, the giant mindless bio weapon.
The giant mindless bio weapon implanted into the earth by Homeworld.
>>80934848
Which is meant to be eradicated soon afterwards anyway.
>>80934848
*geoweapon
>>80934886
It's supposed to develop and destroy the entire Earth according to Homeworld's plans.
>>80934664
Unsupported conjecture. You know what IS supported? Swiss cheese earth. Homeworld didn't give much wiggle room for playing devil's advocate here.
>>80934886
>>80934931
Isn't the Cluster Homeworld's Death Star? They just need earth to make it and then use it.
>>80934980
>implying the Death Star was a bad thing
The Rebel Alliance were violent and willing to resort to terrorism to meet their ends. The destruction of Alderaan ensured safety for the civilians of the Empire. It was literally no worse than the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
>>80934963
>devil's advocate
I'm not. The intergalactic, lesbian, planet annihilating empire doesn't need an advocate.
>>80935045
Don't do this.
Every single planet known under the Empire's control rejoiced over it's destruction, including it's base of fucking operations Coruscant. It was an empire built on a single man saying "lol fuck democracy I'ma run this shit solo" and then proceeding to murder men, women, and children by the thousands.
>>80935045
by sheer numbers it was worse. a planet is bigger than a city.
>>80935075
But you don't support lesbianism, because Homeworld hates girl love, idiot.
>>80935168
shut up rebel scum
>>80935075
Their PR is pretty bad and their only positive actions are totally fabricated by you. You're not fooling anyone for a second, Homeworld shill.
>>80935218
>a planet is bigger than a city
It doesn't matter. So long as you can showcase the power and might of your military.
>>80935264
>the amount of people you slaughter to prove a point doesn't matter even if you go way overboard
good defense desu
>>80935075
They tried to murder their first ever qt lesbian couple, dude. What the fuck are you defending.
>>80935218
>girl love
They're all girls and fusion between same-type gems is accepted by Homeworld. It's the degenerate CG rebels that fuse with different types of gems and procreate with local wild life.
>>80935300
Again, it worked with Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
>>80931950
FUCK YOU!
MAKE THE LOCAL CLUSTER GREAT AGAIN!
>>80935346
Yes but they do it for fighting- it's just a bigger version of themselves. It was never love, never felt like love, until Garnet came around.
aka no lesbian love according to homeworld. only sterile, lifeless, same gem fusing for the sole purpose of fighting.
>>80935326
>implying the Diamonds don't fuse their Pearls when they need bigger pearls.
>>80935422
gems aren't human, dude. they work different.
same gem fusion is the gem equivalent to straight romance.
what you're defending is a world without qt lesbo romance.
>>80929541
>Stevetrayal
interesting... I would like this to happen. At the least he could do it then end up double crossing HW
>>80935655
I too want that, but Steven's too soft to ruse-cruise Yellow Diamond. Unless they can harden him with that ulterior motive under their nose.
>>80935508
>same gem fusion is the gem equivalent to straight romance.
wut?
>what you're defending is a world without qt lesbo romance.
Not qt lesbo romance, but total and brutal dominance of entire galaxies and the gem race by tyrannical matriarchs.
