When is this bitch going to die?
Not anytime soon.
>>80922929
After she kills Cass.
>>80922929
She will never be important. She is not even Azrael Agent of bat tier.
Has she even appeared in detective comics or Batman since her creation?
>>80922929
She is already dead to me.
>>80923095
Salt will be real.
glad is seems the Arkham games seem to finally run their course because you know harper would be a DL challenge map character in the next one
>>80922929
When you stop being a whiny faggot. So, never.
>>80923120
Yes, she was. She appeared in Batman right after Damian's death to ~pull Bruce back from the edge~ because who would be more qualified for that than fan favorite Harper Row
>>80922929
She has a cool design. Have they given her any kind of character or backstory yet, outside of everyone praising her for doing nothing?
>>80922929
I'd rather she just fade away or retire
If she died people may get upset and pretend she was more important than she really is
>>80924813
Cass whacked her mom, Harper was supposed to be Batman's perfect Robin.
>>80924813
>Have they given her any kind of character or backstory yet
Ye-
>outside of everyone praising her for doing nothing
No.
>>80924849
Wow, we're doing that one again? "I engineered them to be the perfect vague Robin analogue"?
No Man's Land did that, Arkham Knight did that, Return of the Joker did that. JLU's "Epilogue" did that. I guess this time Bruce got in on some of that sweet life-controlling, unethical soldier making.
>>80922929
I was fine with her until she ruined Batman and Robin Eternal
>>80924788
That shit sounds familiar, I wonder when the next time Bruce gets sent through time again and Dick replaces her will be.
>>80924908
>guess this time Bruce got in on some of that sweet life-controlling, unethical soldier making
ASBAR did that
>>80924849
Holy fuck that makes >>80924933 even more relevant
What the fuck are they thinking?
>>80924908
Time to post this panel from BRE, I guess. Yeah, wonder why people find her so annoying. Can't put my finger on it lol
>>80925054
Is that Batman thinking that?
>>80925054
I feel like I'm reading fanfiction right now
>>80925087
Yes, that's Batman.
>>80925054
URGGGGG
>>80925132
In my mind I want it to be because he has feelings for everyone else worth a damn and he thinks Harper is expendable, but deep down I know it's not true.
>>80925054
I HAVE TO PUKE
>>80925152
the robins are his sons-I hope the boys spits at him
>>80925191
I want that whole shit storm with what the fuck Tim went through with Jean Paul Valley and Jason up to the point of Dick replacing him and Him and him leaving to help bring his ass back to the current time to bear on Bruce's ass back to the present to bear on his mind forever, but god dammit none of that was canon.
>>80925054
>advertise the weekly as Robins 75th
>Harper is the most important one with Cass trailing behind her
At least Dick was with them even if he isn't too important in the long run
>>80925275
What a fucking stain to Dick's Mothers memory all this shit is.
>>80922929
When Snyder and Tynion both fuck off
>>80925275
Literally trailing, because Cass's new role is "Harper's backstory"
>>80925633
Is that true? Because fuck this continuity
Bring back the hype silent sister who has few words to express herself but knows all about reading people, a fucking ray of sunlight everytime she was involved..
>>80924919
Speaking of Batman & Robin Eternal, I just started reading it. Where's Damian?
>>80926121
Snyder and Tynion hate Damian.
>>80926121
He showed up a couple issues ago
>>80926215
2issues
>>80922929
Not soon enough
If DC is making her a robin, a TRUE Robin then she is going to die eventually. I mean Dick died, Jason died, Tim died, Steph died, Cass died, Damian died. It comes with the job
>>80922929
She looks hot. Should I read this?
>>80927086
she's not being robin
>>80922929
Let her stay. DC deserves to burn.
>>80926202
Luckily Tom King doesn't. Hopefully he erases most of this shit
>>80927086
Tim didn't die, at worst he lost a kidney.
>>80927191
If you think she's hot, then probably? It's not good, but you'll definitely see a lot of her.
>>80928317
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I mean, no idea if King is the next Batman writer, but I'm not too troubled by this nonsense because I expect it all to get mixed up again, anyway.
When Harper's not on panel, everyone should be asking, "Where's Harper?"
>>80925054
Right so when are we actually going to get the pre flashpoint characters back?
Superman is giving me some hope and I can't stand this piece of shit batman when his robins are better characters.
>>80922929
Never.
>>80927191
>looks hot.
>mfw
>>80929146
>The mask is there to make her face look proportionate.
>>80924788
That was the most perplexing/infuriating part about her, that they basically gave her Tim Drake's pre-Flashpoint backstory after they let Lobdell ruin his.
>>80923120
She's in Batgirl right now with what appears to be a proto-Birds of Prey, along with Spoiler and blackdyke-not-using-the-O-word.
>>80929288
May I also note, Dinah keeps showing up too. They've all but confirmed the BoP lineup.
All that remains is to see if Cass joins up.
>>80929288
>>80929430
I thought the rumor was that they'll go back to a "classic" BOP with Dinah, Babs and Helena, so after Rebirth, who knows. I know, it's all rumors. But I would love to see Harper get benched.
Does anyone have that panel wheere Harper tries to show off to Batman, and he kicks her through a goddamn fence?
>>80929210
>that they basically gave her Tim Drake's pre-Flashpoint backstory after they let Lobdell ruin his.
I'm done with this shit franchise.
I can't handle that they just think they can give that great backstory that took multiple issues to some rando new face and then expect us to like her as much as Batman likes her. as much as Pre-flashpoint Batman should have liked and supported Tim even.
>>80929472
On the other hand, I don't like Barbara either, so if BOP becomes Harper's containment book, that'd actually work out for me.
I gotta ask...is there any female character introduced in the last ten years in comics anyone likes?
I suppose eventually had some people warm up to her but thats about it.
>>80929569
I was going to say Cassandra Cain, But i forgot it's 2016.
>>80929569
Kamala. I'm sure there's more but that's the obvious one.
>>80929472
Helena is still off in Grayson being a secret agent. They'd have to jump through some hoops to pull it off from where she is now.
But let's be honest
>Babsgirl
>Black Canary
>Spoiler
>Bluebird
>maybe Cass
You don't hate this lineup. Even if you outright hate Harper, you don't hate this lineup.
>>80929672
Oh, and Maps Mizoguchi.
>>80929679
I wish bluebird was someone else and Babs was still a hype navigator with Spoiler being happy go lucky batgirl
>>80929134
After Rebirth, hopefully.
>>80929679
>Helena is still off in Grayson being a secret agent.
An artist said they were bringing back "classic Helena", and Seeley tweeted that he "didn't know that".
No word on whether it's Helena Wayne, old Helena B, or just new Helena B.
>>80929569
I can think of several, but I only like them because their comic was cancelled after 6 issues and no other writer cared enough to bring them back and ruin them.
>>80929679
Rumor has it that they'll put white Huntress in BOP somehow instead of bases SPYRAL Helena, which would be all the more reason not to like it. Yeah, shame about Cass, Steph and Dinah though.
>>80929747
>no other writer cared enough to bring them back and ruin them.
There's so much truth in this statement.
>>80929569
Atlee is a bundle of sunshine and miracles
>>80925678
Cass is Harper's Joe Chill. Next issue, Harper is going to graciously forgive the person who killed her mother, because Harper is the greatest and most Jesus-like hero of all.
Birds of Prey lineup
>>80929569
>>80929983
>graciously forgive the person who killed her mother, because Harper is the greatest and most Jesus-like hero of all.
Fuck that, remember that shit where Tim had Boomerang hanging over a ledge? He let the fucker live and never forgave him. I don't want some shitty resolution like "forgiveness because we work together". Is this really what's happening or are you just making it sound worse than it is?
is Harper gay
I'm legit not sure if her sexuality has ever been addressed
>>80930089
In absolute fairness Boomerang is a grown ass man.
Cass was a kid
>>80930085
has anything else happened to her, the last word I heard of her was during a Boomerang imagination
>>80930043
Why do they look like teenagers? Is Barbara not like 25 or close to 30?
>>80930128
I think Snyder said she's bi and she seems to want to fuck Cass, but nothing in canon has been stated like it has her brother
>>80930043
>Canary has too much eye shadow
>Batgirl's suit is still a shitty jumpsuit from addidas
Spoiler being there just being spoiler can't save this picture. Is there a reason they refuse to go back to giving Batgirl an actual proper suit?
>>80929569
Scandal Savage
Troll
Capucine from Soule's Swampy
Kamala
Some people like Silk, I'm indifferent
>>80930160
Seriously? Damian is a kid and he tried to actively kill Tim before while going as far to attack him mid air after he was robin.
Tim didn't forgive that shit, he was well aware of where Damian came from and what he's capable of.
What makes this scenario different?
>>80930171
Nah, she's 21 at most. Wonder Woman's 23.
>>80929569
Was Batwoman within the last ten years? At any rate I don't think I remember any new female characters I dislike as much as I do Harper.
>>80930191
I personally really dig the new batgirl costume.
>>80929679
That lineup looks really boring to me. Vixen was in one of the latest Black Canary issues. I wonder if she'll end up on the team.
>>80930043
Still rumored though. No BOP line-up has been announced.
>>80930089
The Mother managed to capture both Cass and Harper, and now they are doing the Emperor/Luke thing from Jedi, with Cass strung up after being tortured.
Why the Mother gives a shit about Harper, I have no idea. She just executed the Orphan right before the Final Boss Fight, so nothing is making a lot of sense now.
>>80929679
>You don't hate this lineup. Even if you outright hate Harper, you don't hate this lineup.
Anon, I hate that line up for a number of reasons
>Babsgirl
Should be Oracle
>Black Canary
Who cares about Rocker Canary
>Spoiler
Should be Batgirl
>Bluebird
Fuck Harper
>maybe Cass
Cass in name only
>>80930043
>more selfie covers
>faggot ass style
superhero comics are for teenagers again aren't they?
>>80930320
Well, there's no accounting for tastes I suppose.
>>80925054
I don't see the problem, all ther other members of the batfamily are traitors that always give Batman shit and only care about him when he is dead or has amnesia and often not even when that happens
Soon
>>80928317
Are the any good sources for this?
(I believe you as King wrote Damian well in Robin War, but Snyder's treatement has really left a bad taste in my mouth and I'd like to know that it's getting better)
>>80930542
No.
King on batman is just a rumor.
We won't know until later this week.
>>80930487
Ah I see we're sand baggin Tim today.
No, it's fine, when everyone thought he was crazy except Ras, and he found evidence Batman was alive and helped bring him back.
He lost a kidney, took out the League of Shadows and the Council of Spiders, only to have Bruce reprimand him when he dealt with his own demons and NOT kill boomerang. But that's alright, none of it mattered.Fuck You, Harper you shitty Dick from another world.
I'm still laughing how Harper is basically parts of Jason, Tim, and Stephanie backstories and personalities mashed together with Dick's old colors as an outfit.
She is completely superfluous, even by batfamily standards.
>>80930685
It honestly offends me when Harper is canonically the ONLY person to try to save batman. Because that's blatantly Tim.
>>80930685
What else do you expect from a man who has consistently ripped off every element of his Batman run after Flashpoint off of Grant Morrison?
So who exactly is this semen demon?
>>80930487
Nah, son, the Batfam is ride or die. Always has been.
>>80930863
>Dick "Batman ruined my life and I hate him so I will name me after a Superman given name because fuck him" Grayson
>>80930283
>Wonder Woman's 23.
This actually bothers me a lot more. The fact that Diana is barely older than college-aged is retarded.
>>80930929
You can hate someone and still want to give your life to keep them alive out of familial love.
Look how Tim and Jason turned out, more or less through the efforts from Tim first.
>>80930929
Getting fired and kicked out of the house because you save lives with your friends is a pretty good reason to not like him
If anything Dixon made Dick too much a bitch since he immediately came crawling back despite Bruce barely apologizing to him or Jason
>>80931103
Man, the Bruce in this was so horribly written. What a terrible version of that origin.
>>80931103
Batman was right tho.
Being a hero is not a joke and Gotham still needed help.
Instead Dick went all "Fuck Gotham, now I go save the the universe/world with my new friends and leave my previous job because I am bored of trying to fix this town and have a better gig with hot alien chicks now"
>>80930929
Try reading the stories before bitching about them because Dick never hated Bruce in any versions.
The first one and second one was the more amiable and he choose Nightwing to honor Superman since Dick had Batman's lessons to honor him. And in Nightwing YO version, he still didn't hate Bruce despite that Bruce being an insane asshole.
>>80931103
>or Jason
I'm still baffled that Dixon had Bruce tie Jason to a fucking chair. That sounds like something ASBAR Batman would do.
>>80931223
>saving the world from Trigon and Brother Blood being a result of boredom
Dixon Batman pls
>>80931223
I think you're remembering Early Young Justice days with Tim, Bart and Connor.
>>80931223
>have a better gig with hot alien chicks now
Dick was an uptight puritan for the first couple years with regards of Starfire since Wolfman took it slow, and Dixon then ignored her completely in YO to shove Babs in our faces.
>>80931259
Lol yes, unless we're talking Millerverse, Dick has never hated Bruce a single day in his life in any version.
>>80930283
Wait, WW's that young? I can't believe this. How old is Donna suppose to be then?
>>80931551
And even that Dick probably wanted to fuck Bruce as much as he hated him
>>80931551
>>80931612
I love the fact that Tim has never loved the man as long as Dick had but still tried to get the Dick to be his robin again, and then Dick and Alfred push Tim into being Robin despite how much he protests being that involved.
And then later down the line it's Dick Pushing him out and doesn't have his back when he believes Bruce was still alive.
>>80930263
>What makes this scenario different?
Cass is a retard?
>>80931715
So Dick hates Tim then
As he should, since Tim is shit
>>80931612
Well anon, that goes without sayin. And ASBAR Bruce prolly wanted to fuck him too.
>>80931793
How does that even fit?
>>80931843
>wanted to
I'm convinced he did
TDKSA was pretty gay in general when it came to those two. Felt like former lovers bickering
>>80931715
Be fair to Dick, man. At that moment there was no reason to suspect Bruce being alive(proofs came much later), Tim could handle things on his own, but Damian really needed a good mentor
>>80931940
Definitely felt that way. I think Miller!Bruce is too repressed to really mess around with him, but the vibe was there. Wouldn't rule it out.
>>80931797
Hah, good one.
It's the idea that he supposedly loves bruce and then doesn't care when it actually does matter when some random kid who didn't even want to be robin out does him and sets the bar too high for the little scrub that came after stephanie.
>>80932064
Except he did care. He tried helping him and then got punched in the face. He didn't want to be Robin since he felt like he had outgrown the role, and he did.
>>80931995
>Tim could handle things on his own
The person that was their only connecting line dies, All his friends, his girlfriend and his real dad are dead, so the best thing was for Dick to take away the position that he used to not want, but was his one true constant at the time and to give it to the kid who was trying to kill him?
>>80932013
Yeah Miller said his Batman is really repressed and has psychosexual problems or something.
>>80932064
Dick tried helping him, but Bruce punched him in the face (while Dick was on crutches no less) and told him to leave the key and never come back. He and Alfred tried helping Bruce but wouldn't accept their help.
>>80932119
He didn't care enough, not when batman was very close to murdering thugs out right.
Is there ever displayed a moment in which dick goes "No, what I want doesn't matter right now, because someone close to me needs me to be there for them"
>>80932227
No, fuck that, he should have kept going not backing down one bit.
>>80932176
Steph was back by that time, anon, and his dad and friends died ages before.
Also yes, Damian needed to be Robin more than Tim did since Damian went out and beheaded a dude and needed to be restrained.
>>80932278
>Damian needed to be Robin
He didn't, He could have had his own persona
They come out of the wood works with new names all the time. Look at fucking Jason he has like 4 names to go by.
>>80932228
>Is there ever displayed a moment in which dick goes "No, what I want doesn't matter right now, because someone close to me needs me to be there for them"
Uh yes
Dick kept trying despite Bruce assaulting him and telling him to fuck off constantly
>>80932324
He couldn't have had his own persona because they were supposed to be Batman and Robin, not Batman and Redwing or something. :^)
>>80932364
It could have been a thing, could have had his own comic book and everything.
>>80932328
Dick comes running when Bruce needs him literally 24/7
>>80932409
Morrison wanted an inverted Batman and Robin dynamic. That was half the fun, and it would've just been Batman and Bluebird or Batman and Rucka's OC had his name not been Robin.
>>80922929
What's wrong with her? I haven't been keeping up with the whole batman run.
>>80932558
see
>>80930685
She's even more redundant than all the Batgirls and even the Robins, and they keep pushing her really hard in the current weekly at the expense of everybody else.
>>80932558
The latest weekly has some of the worst character shilling I have ever seen despite her being nothing special as a character in universe or in real life.
At least with Damian people hated him canonically or are annoyed by him, even Dick and Bruce.
>>80931843
>>80931940
>>80932013
What if they weren't fucking but Millerverse Batman is just so repressed he takes any attempt at affection as the person being a massive faggot?I think I remember TDKSA Dick implying that Bruce was pretty negligent
>>80930191
>Is there a reason they refuse to go back to giving Batgirl an actual proper suit?
Because the suit Tarr designed was most of the reason why Batgirl got as much attention as it did
>>80930283
>Wonder Woman's 23
That's bizarre. I would have figured WW to be like three thousand years old at least.
>>80930370
pretty much, babsgirl is awful and nu!oracle won't survive a change in writers
>>80929146
Oh...
>>80932726
>despite her being nothing special as a character in universe or in real life.
Haven't you been paying attention in B&RE? Harper is the most special of everybody.
>>80934890
Is the awful sideshave negro in Hipster Babsgirl's comic still supposed to be the Oracle replacement? Because she looks so generic and grotesque that she has no chance of being accepted. She looks like the kind of character who should appear in the background of one panel to fill space, then never again.
>>80934817
She has to be young so the revelation of the Murderzons would come as a complete surprise.
>>80925054
Harper lost all chance of becoming popular when the writers decided to turn her into a bat-sidekick before all the real bat-sidekicks had even appeared in Nu52. That immediately set her up as an usurper, a pretender to the throne. DC's hamfisted hard-selling of her just angers people more.
They should have started from the position that being the newest bat character, she's automatically the least important of all, and played accordingly. Slowly, steadily dropped her into stories as a fifth wheel, gradually given her time to gain an audience.
>>80934995
Are Murderzons still canon? I like the Murderzons, but I figure WW's usual readership wouldn't.
>>80935152
Finches had some amazons kill some grown manazons
So yes
>>80935152
Nobody has tried to retcon it, I think.
