ITT: We discuss alternatives for a DC female lead that aren't this uninteresting legacy carryover with no backstory, boring powers, and no redeeming characteristics.
We take Flash and slap some tits on him.
>>80829447
Make sure there's no bra and you might have something there.
>>80829422
I'd say Zatana. Granted, I don't really know a whole lot about her, but I think a magic user rounds out the whole "Trinity" concept a lot better than Wonder Woman.
>>80829447
Would be QT as fuck with Wally's personality, hhnnnng.
>>80829455
>I don't know much about Zatanna but I fapped to her more than to Diana
>>80829455
Mmmm, by that same logic I think Mary Marvel (rebranded as the new Shazam) would work as well. They seem intent on making him more of a "caster" this time around anyway, would be interesting.
Aquawoman is a good caster too, and we could beef her up with Arthur's power. Could be cool.
I hope she dies in the new movie.
>>80829447
Done
>>80829461
I've probably fapped to Diana more than Zatanna just because she has more material out there. Zatanna definitely does more for my boner though.
>>80829468
Eh, I think both of those characters are too much in the shadow of another character, males ones at that.
>>80829452
Of course.
>>80829458
She would be pretty adorable. Probably too adorable.
>>80829477
Not bad. The jacket seems totally unnecessary though.
>>80829491
I mean, in this scenario we'd straight up replace the males. Arthur wouldn't exist. Instead we'd have a rockin blonde half-sea lady with mystical sea magic and the ability to punch through steel.
>>80829492
>The jacket seems totally unnecessary though.
Blame the 90's
>>80829468
Mary has the same problem Diana does, too much overlap with Clark.
With Zatanna you've got someone who can do things the other two can't and has knowledge they won't have.
>>80829492
I didn't design it. I forget what story it was, but Wally was trying to make Bart jealous so he'd work harder at getting his powers under control, so that he could eventually take the Flash moniker after Wally died. So he took Jesse Quick and trained her as the new Flash, but it was only for like one or two issues.
Also, I like the jacket.
>>80829521
Also her outfit is rockin and something I enjoy fapping to.
>>80829422
The best female character DC has has always been Cass.
>>80829569
I think the company's main female lead should be literate.
>>80829569
This is why nobody likes you cassfags.
>>80829569
Not progressive enough.
You know what would be better than an undocumented Asian abuse survivor with a learning disability? A basic ass white bitch. Let's promote the blonde instead. For feminism.
I nominate Amethyst, Princess of Gemworld
>>80829636
Can't wait for Cassfag's tears when Harper kills her.
>>80829677
She's not short and ethnic?
>>80829677
Couldn't even carry a two minute animated short, much less an entire goddamn company.
>>80829689
Fuck off Cassfag
>>80829695
I don't see how her cartoon shorts is relevant to this.
>>80829422
They can make her interesting and unique on her own if they try, thing is DC head writer kinda suck at writing girls/women and the one that got it right always come up with a boring scenario.
Aresia! Slav Amazon
A more magically-focused Hawkgirl could work. Play up the Egyptian priestess knowledge for mystical hijinks and the magical nth metal mace.
>Superman = Physical
>Batman = Mental
>Ideal Female Lead = Spiritual
As an incredibly simplified chart.
>>80829422
>Zatana
>Mera
>Black Canary
>Katana
>Hawkgirl
>Starfire
>Poison Ivy is semi-good now?
>>80829422
For the movie universe?
Big Barda. Basically WW with ties to Darseid and a more intersting backstory.
>>80829755
It'd separate it more by genre than any one aspect of the character.
>Batman = Crime
>Superman = Science Fiction
>Idea Female Lead = Fantasy
Hi.
>>80829807
Well, she fits the minority role..
Maxima
The better Jean Grey
Phantom Lady.
>>80829837
She's gay too.
>>80829807
Don't even pretend to be the best Marvel girl.
>>80829823
>we live in a time where a character being part of a race or culture is more important than being well written
What a time to be alive
>>80829447
Stan Lee got your back, bro.
>>80829876
Stan Lee is the Master Roshi of comics. Lovable dirty old man.
>>80829846
That is a strange comparison to make.
They are just very different.
>>80829846
My nigga
>>80829755
>>80829799
>Trinity bullshit
Let's not try to fit into this stupid shit. The Trinity is just a marketing tool because no character in DC will even be as important as Batman or Superman.
Bekka
>>80829849
>we live in a time where people still can't see that your culture plays a huge role in defining your character
>>80830391
>we live in a time where people still can't see that quality of writing plays a bigger role in defining your character than the culture of that fictional character
amazing
>>80830418
>We live in a time where quality of writing is an argument against a cultural focus in the content of writing, rather than the prerequisite for publishing at all
The folly of Man is stunning.
>>80830456
>"I didn't read the thread" the post
>we live in a time where the culture of a character is praised, regardless of writing quality, and even valued above it
wew lad
>>80830478
>"I regurgitate a false dichotomy for the convenience of my ideological positions", the post.
The wrong of one idiot does not validate a different wrong from another idiot.
>>80829422
Pic related
>>80829492
It's more aerodynamic.
Wait...
>>80829906
Penis embiggening
>>80829962
Right, but since they're going to talk up a female lead regardless, might as well try to make it a good one that fits instead of a cockhungry Superman-lite.
>>80830654
>try to make it a good one that fits instead of a cockhungry Superman-lite.
Yet all the choices in this thread are little to no better than that. Most of these women are just derivatives of other characters or are part of another character's family. Also how can you complain about Wonder Woman being "Superman-lite" while bringing in "Wonder Woman-like" characters like Big Barda or Bekka
>>80830782
Who would you propose then, oh great enlightened one?
>>80830829
Not him but I think WW is already fine, all they have to do is make her unique and stop trying to ship her with Supes or Bat or any other dude.
>>80830829
Stop trying to give DC a new female lead and instead give Wonder Woman better stories and make her world more relevant in the DCU and he villains more of a threat outside her comics. Also give these other female supporting casts and their own enemies so people who want to write them in other books would have something to work with.
>>80830896
Whatever happened to Steven Trevor? Wasn't he supposed to be the male equivalent to Lois Lane.
>heroine is from a far away land
>she is usually kidnapped and needs someone to resque her
>from this she learns how to resque herself
>starts kidnapping her enemies
>>80829422
>no backstory, boring powers, and no redeeming characteristics.
Like superman then, right?
>>80829458
Bonus points for keeping the WW initials.
>>80829534
It was just a subplot of Terminal Velocity. #97 and #98.
>>80831051
Hm. I would love a female character to be essentially Zelda/Shiek.
She just gets herself kidnapped as a dignitary, then destroys her kidnappers from the inside, posing as a rescuing hero, then just let's herself be picked up by the cops.
