>The bad news, however, is that punches are being pulled with The Punisher.
>Some fans of the character like him because of the delightfully gruesome and creative ways that he takes down the bad guys. Some of that is certainly on display, but much of it is hidden away from. In lieu of showing a full assault like “The Punisher” movies have, the series opts to show you either the start of the carnage, the end of the bloodbath, or to place focus on a character that has no idea everyone around him is dying. That last one is a fun exercise, but if The Punisher isn’t acting like a tank in those moments where he can, it’s a letdown. The Punisher is a force of nature, which the series fully acknowledges in its opening episode with subtlety and nuance that shows producers Douglas Petrie & Marco Ramirez know what they have, but are seemingly hindered by standards & practices. The first season of Daredevil saw decapitation by car door and self-impalement on jagged glass, but The Punisher’s on-screen violence feels neutered. Maybe they’re saving the big strike for the season finale, or maybe their hands are tied.
This is a little concerning.
How many eps have the reviewers seen?
Nah, I don't give a fuck about watching Punisher shoot fodder.
>>80805208
I'm going to watch it and form my own opinion
The violence in Daredevil was almost cartoonishly over the top. To the point of being unintentionally funny.
Pulling back is a good thing
>>80805208
Fucking gay. Just went I thought the TV universe was safe they pull this shit.
>>80805375
You're a stupid faggot. Go watch your baby movies. The MCUTV was suppose to be for adults.
I'm surprised considering the guy calling the shots oversaw Dexter.
>>80805375
This, it looked fucking silly. Like an edgy preteen's idea of ultra violence.
I'm all for R rated gore but DD didn't do it well
>>80805419
Bait?
>>80805419
>You're a stupid faggot. Go watch your baby movies. The MCUTV was suppose to be for adults.
>>80805208
IT'S NOT A FUCKING PUNISHER SHOW
Why are people expecting it to go full Punisher? Wait for his own fucking series.
>>80805442
That guy is going to run Iron Fist, not Daredevil.
>>80805622
Oh, that's good. Wait.
>>80805375
Cartoonishly over the top ultra violence is Frank at his best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep7UlDRAE58
doesnt look toned down to me
>>80805817
Frank really deserves his own hyper-violent, AO rated series. It doesn't even need to be related to the rest of the MCU, or have any overarching plot. Just make it episodic, with a couple of arcs spread around multiple episodes.
>>80805257
7. The consensus is that it starts a bit jumbled but ties up by the end of those 7. All while using better cinematography and fight choreography. Apparently the plots are a bit too muddled at first.
Hopefully they do the reverse of what they did last season and end strong instead of fizzle.
>>80806080
That is somewhat worrying, as it is what soured JJ for me. Luckily, DD has decent/likable characters to get it through any plot hiccups.
>>80806540
I don't mind jumbled plots so long as they end up together nicely. Heck, one of my favorite movies is Cloud Atlas.
>>80805208
You do realise the series is called Daredevil, and Frank Castle is nothing but a supporting character, right?
>>80805208
>The Punisher isn’t acting like a tank
This is a good thing. The Punisher is only human. Giving him blatant plot armour like 'teh Punisha is a tank' is why a lot of his comics SUCK.
>>80805817
This is the cap from the other trailer and it looks good and violent.
>>80806914
no no no fuck you! why isn't the punisher the main character in daredevil!!!!!
>>80807042
I agree, I love when he goes up ageist people he is obviously out matched , Like when he fought Crossbones that one time, and gets the shit kicked out of himself then has to run off like a injured dog.
>>80805208
Stop criticizing Marvel
Be happy we're even getting these guys on the screen
Marvel are doing this for YOU
>>80807324
FRANK ME UP INSIDE
>>80805208
This is acceptable, you'd spend way too much time focusing on Frank if they went into detail about all the slaughter he gets too and this isn't his show.
>>80807440
CAN'T FRANK UP
>>80805208
Well that sucks. The over the top graphic violence was my favorite part of the show.
That's what separates it from the movies I think. Shame, real shame.
Why is /co/ gay for Frank? Also I liked that Punished Frank picture I saw where he had the beard and bandages
>>80807646
Why aren't you?
>People getting worried that Daredevil's show won't be about the Punisher
>>80806914
all the trailers aim at Frank being a big part of the show
>>80807702
I mean tbqh most people probably care about Punisher more and why even have him if he isn't hyper violent?
>>80807858
>I mean tbqh most people probably care about Punisher more
I hope those people know I hate them.
>why even have him if he isn't hyper violent?
Oh, I don't know, story? Character? Who needs those things when you're a Punisher fan though, I guess.
>The Punisher is a force of nature
No he's not. He's a trained, dedicated soldier, and a good soldier fights smart. Back in the day he loved to rush in like a dope, but these days most people prefer a Punisher who's already prep-timed everything.
>>80807850
Not really. Except for the one trailer that focused on him most of the trailers have been about the Hand/Electra with just a few shots of Frank.
>>80808003
why else would they give him a trailer?
>>80807524
FRANK ME
>>80808049
>all the trailers
one trailer isn't all the trailers. Going by the trailers the show is going to be 2/3's Hand, 1/3 Frank.
>>80807918
The story is they need to be Punished. The character is Punishing.
>The Punisher
>never makes any puns
>>80808108
If a character is a non-title character in title character's show they exist to supplement the title character's story first and their own wankery is second.
>>80808108
Except the title of said story is "Daredevil"
>Disneysher
>/co/ will defend this
then
>Punisher announced for Daredevil
>people get hyped as fuck for months
now
>I... I d-didnt wanted Punisher anway, good riddance
every fucking time
>>80808372
>/co/ is one person
I was hyped for this shit ever since it was announced, fucking loved the first season
The problem is Frankfags who don't really care about Daredevil got hyped that Frank was going to be in season 2, and are now disappointed that he is not the focus of the show called Daredevil.
>Frank pulls his punches when he's around DD
wut
>>80805552
This
>>80808372
I was never hyped for Punisher.
Frankfags being vocal doesn't make them a majority, it's mostly just people wanting to meme.
Bet your ass they'll be several "I loved him in DD s2, where do I start reading, le Frank franking shit up? xD" threads in about a few days.
SPOILERS
http://youtu.be/rMD9L3mdqqM
i see plenty of violence and HEADSHOTS
this is frank, and critics only got the first 7 episodes
>>80808548
The worst.
>Im soo hyped for Frank, but I dont care about the Hand
Fuck off, the shows called Daredevil.
I'm hyped for all of it.
>You can't protect them Matt!
>>80808466
At this point I'm starting to think Frankfags are the Batfags of Marvel
It's a Daredevil show.
As long as we see blood and Frank shooting people in the face and most importantly: shots connecting. It's fine by me.
>>80808885
>doesn't know DD is Red Batman
Funny casuals are funny.
>>80808372
I am still salty about absence of Bullseye.
There was shot of a girl in a cage in latest trailer and I thought she would be reference to Lady Bullseye, but then I remembered we aren't getting Bullseye at all.
>>80808982
I would bet money on Bullseye being in season 3. They just want to give Electra a season so the audience cares about her before they kill her off.
>>80808958
Modern Batman is the black Daredevil, senpai.
>>80808958
Chronologically Batman is just Black Daredevil.
First Frank Miller made it big with Daredevil, then he released Dark Knight Returns and then Tim Burton pushed the idea that comics can be dark too to the mainstream.
But first there was Daredevil.
>>80808958
In terms of sheer plot armour, Frank is Batman, bro.
>>80809032
This
Miller revolutionized both characters, but he did Daredevil first.
>>80809035
>>80809032
>DD existed before Batman
>>80809096
>Modern
>>80809069
Batman never was killed by Wolverine's emogay son.
>>80809107
The original Batman was already street level, anon.
>>80809035
>>80809084
Jesus christ you faggots O'Neil/Adams made Batman dark and gritty again not Miller
Miller expanded on it and redid the origin in that style but O'Neil and Adams defined it for Batman at least
>>80805208
I don't hate this approach. Your mind will always create a more harrowing and violent scenario then a filmmaker could anyway, especially if it's only given small pieces of a visual puzzle that it has to fill in itself.
>>80809096
>Completely missing the point of the post
Batman was a completely different character before Miller wrote him, and everything he did to Batman he did to Daredevil first. This isn't Company wars, its comic history.
>>80809162
This. Shit, in fact Bats almost began to get dark and gritty with Frank Robbins. There was a story aboutRussian rouletteand everything.
>>80809152
If you read the original Batman, the parallels to the Punisher are even more obvious. Frank is hardly an original character.
>>80809166
>Frank Miller ruined batman
Yeah, we know.
>>80809166
>This isn't Company wars
Who said it was, besides you?
>>80809210
So before DD and Punisher there was Batman.
>>80809237
>ruined
>>80809242
>So before DD and Punisher there was Batman.
Yeah, and before Batman, there were a slew of vigilante comics in the same line. Batman is the one we remember because it's the one that endured past the 40s.
things normies say:
>Frank Miller invented dark Batman, every Batman before DKR was literally Adam West.
>>80809302
>not remembering The Shadow
Shame on you comicfags.
Who will be more violent, DD or Frank?
>>80809368
Do you even know what you just asked?
>>80806629
>>80806629
Real Daredevil thread
>>80809333
Or Zorro. Batman doesn't even try to hide that influence.
>>80809383
>NYC will drown in blood
>JJJ will change his mind and denounce DD as the real Masked Menace
>>80809333
The Shadow was pretty boss, but he was really one among many. The concept was pretty big at the time.
>>80809391
He has no mustache or a sexy Spanish accent, though ;_;
>>80809443
The supernatural elements were a great virtue.
>>80805817
>bang is him revealing the gun is empty
>Daredevil doesn't have to cross that line, Frank can still have his moment
Nice
>>80805208
Frank was shown going through a hospital covered in blood. I don't think we need to worry about him being toned down. Unless you're an edgelord and demand everything to be super gory.
>>80809539
But DD already is super gory.
>>80808897
OP's post makes it seem like we don't see much of that at all
>>80805680
Surprise kungfu brother.
>>80809719
Saw that shortly after posting, looks like I fell for the clickbait
I really dislike the expectation of Max tier violence in anything Punisher.
>>80805208
>seemingly hindered by standards & practices
>Netflix show
What
>complaining about plot armor for an action hero
I'd readily admit Frank has plot armor, so what? He gets his ass kicked more than enough in his comics.
>>80805208
of course
