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>ICE to see you, Jim Gordon Edition
Gotham's back with all new eps tonICE. Get in here now because shit is going to get CHILLY:

2.14: "This Ball of Mud and Meanness" (Mar 14)
>Alfred and Selina help Bruce on his quest to find his parents' killer, Matches Malone (guest star Michael Bowen). Meanwhile, Gordon follows up with Edward Nygma on Kristen Kringle's whereabouts and Hugo Strange (guest star BD Wong) continues his treatment to reduce Penguin's aggression.
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Will we see fem!joker today?
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>45 bongs
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>>80756060
>Archive Moe is dead af, but I'm working on restoring previous discussion threads. Please bear with me!
Are you really now?
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>mfw the Best Friends talked about Gotham

That was embarrassing. They don't have to watch it, but this shouldn't criticize the show based on things they got wrong.
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>>80756527
who
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>finally got caught up with Season 2 last week
>Gotham is literally my favorite comic book show on TV right now

I still enjoy Flash, LoT and Supergirl a lot, but hot damn this season is blowing everything out of the water right now.
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Supergirl or Gotham?

Just watched Supergirl over the past few days and it's not great or good but S2 Gotham hasn't been all that good either.
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>>80756626
>S2 Gotham hasn't been all that good either
???
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>>80756626

I'm enjoying Gotham a hell of a lot more than Supergirl right now, but watch what you want. They'll both be up on their respective network websites the next morning for you to catch up on.
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>>80756527
They know nothing about DC, but talk shit about them all the time anyway. Hell, they barely know anything about Marvel that wasn't in a movie or a 90s cartoon.
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>>80756527
What do expect. They were shitting on the flash and said the side characters in jessica Jones were better than foggy. They all have shit taste. Liam might not but only chooses to to play devils advocate
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T-minus five minutes

Get in here motherfuckers
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Can't, season finale of The Bachelor is on tonight.
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So, will they have the balls to really have Matches Malone be the killer?
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>>80757429
it'll just be another alias for grabs like Red Hood
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>>80757429

I'm betting it's a red herring that Galavan came up with, and Alfred expanded on.
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Pengy's goin nutz
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>penguin's weird bdsm dream
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Poor ol' Penguin
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What unusual death scene are they going to have this episode? Any guesses?
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Batter up!
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Guys I just wanna say after today's news I love DC comics more than anything and im happy I still come here.
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>Crane formula

how did he even get this?
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>Arkham is turning Penguin from just garden-variety paranoid and cruel into legitimately fucking nuts
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>ice cream test

this sounds like the opposite of a good thing
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So is this the Gotham version of the Oculus Rift?
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Jesus, now that's a nightmare. I love Kane. I am with Cobblepot.
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>>80757512
tonight might be the murder art gallery, so toughy
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>>80757518
>today's news

About what?

BvS spoilers?
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He's cured my droogs

He's cured
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I just want the old Penguin back
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>WHAT FLAVOR IS IT

god I love this fucking show
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>What flavor?

Boot to the head.
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>WHAT FLAVOR IS IT??!

what the fuck is this show
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>>80757429
it's a wild goose chase fabricated to safely give Bruce closure without sending him too deep down the rabbit hole.
because it's been strongly implied Joe Chill was sent by the League of Assassins and Alfred does not want Bruce to even risk stepping on their toes
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So that's where Aaron ended up
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I scream, you scream, we all beat up Penguin over ice cream.
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>completely stripped car

Gotham man
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bruce is gonna be suck a qt holy shit
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>shows up to a gun deal in a three piece suit
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>guns aren't for protection

2ND AMENDMENT FAGS BTFO
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>Leslie is onto Eddie's latest spaghetti
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>>80757637
damn
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GOTHAM BTFO GUN LOVERS
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>>80757601

it's magical

that's what

>>80757637

No, she's right. But sometimes the only way to protect yourself is to kill the other dude first.
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How was Amygdala caught anyway?
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>ice cream
>cupcake
Somebody had a sweet tooth when writing this episode
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We DKR now
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What the fuck is going on
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Bruce, is that a gun in your pocket or are you happy to see me? Oh...it's gun....never mind.
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Mr. Cupcake

THIS FUCKING SHOW.
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Heh. Cupcake.

Manly.
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>bringing Bruce to some fight

A+ butlering, Alfred
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>>80757666

Yeah, sometimes you just need to kill a motherfucker.
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Slice and dice
Gotta meet your quota
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>>80757637

Batman doesn't kill people

People trying to kill Batman kill people
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>>80757722

Bruce would just follow him if Alfred went on his own.
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Tank Girl!Joker when
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>>80757690
Or wrote while they were hungry.
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>>80757722
Its not supposed to be a fight.
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>I like little boys
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>>80757666
True, but its been proving owning a gun just makes it more likely for YOU to get shot
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what is going on
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>I like little boys
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Kick his ass, Alfred.
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OI I'LL PUT YOU IN THE BLOODY GROUND YEW FUCKIN GORILLA
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IF YOU DIDN'T WANT BRUCE TALKING DURING THE DEAL WHY DID YOU BRING HIM ALONG
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ON YOUR HONOR GENTLEMEN WHAT WHAT
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>the butlering: gotham edition
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GET'EM PENNY
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>this sc3ne

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgRVJksQocM
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WOT, YOU WONT SOME!
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>he's slowing
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HOW MUCH MORE CAN ALFRED TAKE
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These mutants need more nipples
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>>80757831
>sc3ne

Scene

shit
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>Alfred teaching Bruce how to break Bane
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Cupcake thought he was teaching Alfred, but really Alfred was teaching him.
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This whole escapade is a trick by Alfred.

Matches is a fake guy Batman poses as, this is his origin through Alfred.
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Based.
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Alfred just went down lol

This movie that looks like an fps seems pretty cool
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>fps movie
what
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>>80757894

It looks cliched as fuck, but I think they were going for cinematography and cool action sequences over writing.
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>>80756364
I was hoping desustorage would be updating them but i guess not. ;-;
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>>80757837
Boco I better not see you post one more time in this thread until the episode is over you fag
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>>80757869

Fucking based Gotham.
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>>80757894
>This movie that looks like an fps seems pretty cool

>looks like an fps
>seems pretty cool
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What did I miss before the fight?
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Doesn't Bruce ultimately adopt a philosophy of overwhelming brute strength in a fight + ninja agility
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>>80757896
Hardcore Henry. Front page of IMDB right now.
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>>80757939

Icecream
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>>80757939
Brucie got a gun from Selina.
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>>80757939
Dr. Strange is taming Penguin using psychological torture involving a holograph of him murdering his mother.
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>>80757939
>>80757957
And Cupcake
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>>80757939

Strange's psychotherapy is mindraping the violent paranoia out of Penguin

Bruce gets a gun from Selina to kill Matches
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>>80757911

W-why?
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Jesus, poor Penguin. Will... will he ever get revenge on Hugo?
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>>80757894
>not 60fps
>2016
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>>80757984
God no, as it should be.
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I like how Alfred has been acting more and more proper as the show has gone one.

But every once in a while he slips back to the bloke who told that little bitch to get his ass off the roof.
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The plot twist will actually be that Penguin has been playing Strange this whole time.
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Do you think Cobblepot is faking all this?
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>>80757997
People are going to be throwing up as it is. 60 fps would fill the theatres with barf.
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Eddie gonna spaghetti
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>>80758010

God I fucking hope so.
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EDDIE DON'T SPILL

DON'T
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>>80758010
not really a twist, he's trying his damnest to get out of there, but I doubt he's good enough to stump Hugo

Pengy is trapped until Nigma busts him out
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THE GAME IS AFOOT
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JIMBO
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It'd be cool if Gordon just shoots Nygma. I've always hated the riddler.
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This Penguin shit is so depressing.
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RIDDLE MY DIDDLE MOTHERFUCKER
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>>80758010
you can't play Strange
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>that shot of eddie talking to the corpse

this fucking scene composition
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>>80758086

Not for another three or four seasons.
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FUCK YEA, TIME FOR PETTY
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Did Bruce bribe the bouncer to get past the door?
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>>80757755
Yeah, but thats circular logic. you obviously can't get shot if there are no guns, but you could get stabbed, or robbed, or raped, or kidnapped, etc.

The point of having guns to defend yourself isn't to stop shootings, it's to stop other crimes, especially where the victim might be at significant disadvantage relative their attacker. And though there are cases where guns have stopped shootings, its pretty rare compared to other instances.
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>Jerome fan club
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>>80758087
Taylor has face you just want to take care off. He makes Penguin so sympathetic despite the character being a raging sociopath.
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>>80758060

Penguin is a master strategist. He brought the entire Gotham underworld down by getting them to play against one another. Not sure Strange is in his league yet.
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>jerome fan club

i'm ok with this
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>>80758011
No. But I don't think he's genuinely feeling remorse. It's just a natural response to operant conditioning. You behave the way that they want you to behave so you don't get punished.
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>joker club


hmm
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Oh geez, please tell me that isn't Harley...
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Okay this club looks really fun.
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>>80758125
Cupcake made arrangements

for 50k I hope he did atleast
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What is happening
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OH LOOK! IT'S THE SEVENTIES!
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>a giant grenade
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THE DAMNED "NEW ROSE!" I love how this show throws in so many old school punk and goth songs.
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is that the girl from Free Willy
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All I can think about is the Andy Warhol/Legion of Doom episode last week on Venture Bros when I look at the lead singer
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>next episode is going to be Nygma setting up riddles for Gordon
>including giant bright green question marks
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>>80758154
I'd be incredibly disappointed, Harley shouldn't be an ugly tumblrina.
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I'm excited for this gal, she seems fun.
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>>80758154

Fuck, I hope not.

This chick is gross.
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at&tfu
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>>80758197
Hey, watch it. That's Tank Girl, to you.
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>>80758197

>tumblrina

>Tank Girl and Limewire

you're so fucking stupid
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>>80758206
So's Harley.
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>>80757982
>>80758104
>>80758154
What the fuck did I say Boco?!
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>>80758197

This will kill all of my interest in the show....
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>>80757573
Probably the Killing Joke animated movie announcement.
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>>80758232

Up yours, clown.
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>>80758226
Don't forget she was in Point Break as well.

She's cool.
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>>80758229

Fuck you, anon.

My waifu is perfect.
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>>80758226
>Limewire
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Mark Hamill has been tweeting about Killing Joke all day.
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>>80758229

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0waJ2zHkqow
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Is that Tank girl?
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I actually like this chick. Huh.
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god damn I love Lori Petty
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>>80758282
>calling New 52 Harley perfect
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>>80758333
Yep. That voice is unmistakable.
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Petty needs more work, she's killing it here
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>>80758333

Yes
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Lori Petty is 52, she's a goddamn treasure.
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Damn she nailed it.
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Hm. Harley or not, I hope she sticks around. She's good.
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Can Jerry be a recurring character

Pretty please
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>erotically writhing to music and pictures of Jerome

well then
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Why are they dying their hair green already?
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Based Jerry
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For a Bruce-centric episode this is actually pretty strong.
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>wanting both Jerome and Jerry

...please?
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Lori and Gotham = perfect. He needs to come back. She fits the world like a glove.
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>>80758410
>>80758413
she's attached to Orange is the New Black these days

probably not
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>>80758387
Hypercrisis is real
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I stopped following this episode the episode after they killed off Jerome. Is this worth picking back up, or should I let it be?
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>>80758445

Anon, stop, I'm freaking out here.

This better not fucking be my Harley.
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>>80758458
Bruce is the best character on the show.
David Mazouz is GOAT.
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>>80758458
ever since he pulled that ruse on Silver Bruce storylines have become far more tolerable
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>>80758468

awwwww
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>>80758453

Influence from Jerome's undead spirit, slowly corrupting the youth until finally a perfect vessel is created which becomes The Joker.
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>>80758501
But I miss Silver
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>>80758487
Jerome is coming back m80
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>>80758500
>Bruce is the best character on the show.

That's not Penguin
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>>80758468
Her role isn't that big, though.
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How the fuck can any of you tolerate Jerry?

That was fucking cringey.
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Whoever the fuck did that cover of I Want It All needs to be shot
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>>80758487
Yes. You missed out on all the crazy death scenes and near misses. It's balls to wall nuts.
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>>80758530
>Jerome
>undead

I thought he's floating in goo at Indian Hill?
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>>80758566
>>/out/
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This kid is on a fucking war path
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>>80758566

Everyone in Gotham in completely fucking nuts, but Lori Petty sold that craziness in a way that was actually entirely subdued and believable. And subtlety is something that Gotham doesn't have a lot of, so I enjoyed it.
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>>80758468

Like she'd turn down another paycheck?
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>everyone suddenly arrested

Uh, well, Ok...
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>>80758557
She's also more of a behind the scenes person then an actress

>Writer
>director
>producer

shit she made a movie based on her life where Jennifer Lawrence played a version of her that frequently got pimped out by her mother
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>>80758566
I agree dude, I'm not really feeling this.
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I can't get over how....alive the city feels on this show. Gotham actually feels like another character.
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Um... what?
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>>80758582
How about you stop being a lazy shit and do it yourself
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Bruce, sweetheart, this is not going to end well.
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>all these spotlights
FORESHADOWING
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>>80758611
Gotham isn't about subtlety.
I love the campiness.
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>>80758654
production values on this show have always been suspiciously above average tv grade
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>>80758695

Which is why it's nice to see at least one person who can pull it off.

>we get a scene with her giving Gordon shit now

I love it.
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>You want to know which of your friends were cowards
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>>80758654
Yep. It doesn't feeling like a generic comic book city like the ones on Arrow and The Flash.
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>>80758677

MAYBE I WILL MOTHERFUCKER
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>>80758702
It helps that they shoot in New York City. A lot of locations to work with.
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I love her so much /co/

>red and black eyeshadow
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Wait did they just reference Dark Knight?
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>>80758596

His corpse is. They'll probably end up cloning him or doing some bizarre reanimation or something, which will jumpstart the whole thing. Meanwhile Jerome is floating around, an undead curse.
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>I won't kill babies

MATCHES CONFIRMED FOR SAINT
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>>80758727

It's got a lot more consistent art direction and design. The lighting, cinematography and sets are a hell of a lot more varied at the same time, unlike Arrow and Flash which fall back on the same three or four sets and locations in Vancouver all the time.
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goddamit Bruce why are you getting so close to him with your gun?
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He's going to hire Matches to kill whoever hired him

Maybe
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Bruce sure has a lot of shit going on in one year for someone that age. No surprise he turned into bats.
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Ohhh...

He takes it so well.
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Please let Lori Petty be Harley please Gotham
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"I've killed a lot of parents. I killed my own parents. You're gonna have to be specific."
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>The Settlers
Kek
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>>80758777

Because he's an idiot and is acting out of emotion and not reason.
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>>80758777
Because Bruce is an idiot.
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>>80758718
>>80758750
I thought that too, are you me?
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>>80758804

I know this is bait, but still, fuck you.
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Phantom Strangers gonna show up and stop him, right?
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>>80758804
Really would prefer someone attractive, and not 50.
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>>80758799
this shit probably happens to him every month or so
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Damn this show. We KNOW Bruce won't be killed. Yet it still gets me on the end of my seat.
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>>80758807
The Family lollipop......ew.
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>>80758839
Ageist
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Joe chill when?
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matches is really a hallucination from bruce's mind
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>Hairy Cunton commercial
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>>80758804
Are you saying you really want a 60+ year old Harley when Bruce is finally Batman
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>>80758830

I will fucking lose my shit if the Stranger or Spectre are hinted at here.

The tone of Gotham really lends itself well to vaguely spooky shit like that. I wouldn't be surprised if they even go into the "Gotham is cursed and literally built onto of a portal to Hell" route or something.
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The fucked up thing is, Matches can claim self defense here
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>>80758862
It depends on who your family is I guess
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>>80758809
>>80758820
>Because Bruce is just an inexperienced boy.
Fixed.
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>>80758827
>>80758839

Honestly would rather have Lori then Barbara.
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>>80758854
We know he won't be killed. However, hurt? Oh, yeah, this show is going to put him through utter and complete Hell.
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>>80758864
Hello Tumblr
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>>80758839

This.

Get some hot 21 year old. Hell, get a Margot Robbie look alike.

I like Lori Petty but not as Harley.
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>>80758896
I don't think anything supernatural has happened on the show yet
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Matches looks so fucking unconcerned.
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>keep your hands where I can see them
>immediately puts them down
Bravo, Bruce
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>>80758912

I hate both options but at least Barbera's actress LOOKS like Harley.
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>>80758937

Well apart from starting to get people with straight-up superpowers like Freeze and (hinted at) Firefly.
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Jesus, I want to hug Bruce right now. This actor is killing it.
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>>80758942
he's probably been waiting for someone to do this for a while now
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>>80758937

Nothing overtly supernatural, just vague supernatural

Fucking Matches is great
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... woah

did

did he really do it? I thought he was a red herring
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>>80758985

This kid has really grown as an actor from S1. His interview with Morena Baccarin's character last episode was fantastic too.
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Oh wow, this is actually the guy who killed Bruce's parents.
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>>80758985
He really is, he's been great in s2 in general.

Also matches is cool as fuck in my opinion.
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>Matches is the most honorable man in Gotham
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i made you, you made me
how childish can you get?
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>you want me to kill you. why?

BATMAN ONCOMING
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>>80759040
kek
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>>80759040
Is that you, Jack?
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>>80759040
Wow it really is Burton bats
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God damn this episode just has fantastic acting all over the place

>Matches' line delivery on "A man gets tired"
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