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Wait so how is Sony doing a Venom movie separate from Spider
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Wait so how is Sony doing a Venom movie separate from Spider-Man/MCU? Was it allowed by Marvel?

http://variety.com/2016/film/news/spiderman-spinoff-venom-screenwriter-1201723111/
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/spider-man-spinoff-venom-revived-872844
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>>80644495
And does anybody believe this rumor?

http://moviepilot.com/posts/3816486
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>>80644504

By default you are not supposed to believe moviepilot
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>>80644495
Preplanned production prior the the spiderman rights being released. By rights they still have spider man rights but there was an agreement deal in process after the failure of the most recent spider man movie.

Venom was still under contract when production went into process. Therefore, they have venom still.
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>>80644495
>Was it allowed by Marvel?

Technically Sony doesnt have to worry about Marvel stopping them from creating Spider-man related movies of its own as long as it does not violate pre agreed terms and conditions
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>>80645030
>Therefore, they have venom still.

Sony has everything Spider-man in terms of a live-action movie. Sony is just sharing Spider-Man with Marvel for MCU while still keeping creative control. Sony can still make Sinister Six or even a Superior Foes movie if they feel like it as long as they follow the terms and conditions of the original deal. As far as I know the new deal only involved sharing for MCU and did not change previous deals
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obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YDYL6oECjU
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>>80645102
The real question is, can Spidey appear in those movies?
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>>80645102
>I know the new deal only involved sharing for MCU

But it sounded like Marvel had more say in how the films should be made.
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>>80645130

Of course he can because Sony still retains creative control. I cant wait for Sony to mess up Spider-Man again through their executive shenanigans
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>>80645167

Marvel has more say in its own movies, but technically Sony can still veto Marvel with regards to all decisions related to Spider-Man
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>>80645189
>Sony brings out their own Spider-Man movie
>seems to be connected to the MCU but contradicts the Marvel one
>actually a lead in to a Clone Saga collab. Marvel Spidey or Sony Spidey, one is Peter and the other is Ben Reilly, but which?
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>>80645219

Thats not a bad idea actually
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>>80645228
>>80645219
>this revives Ben Reilly in comics
>he is written by Slott and only Slott
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>>80645228
It's far too clever and weird to use in a franchise this big I think.
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>>80644495
>tfw good Venom solo film literally never because even if they make one it'll be shit
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>>80645282

Venom solo movie just doesnt work. It needs to be setup over the course of atleast two movies
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>>80645603
nah
>here's the symbiote
>here's the host
>here's the poor fuckers that are gonna get slaughtered like Freddie Kruger meets Carpenter's The Thing
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>>80645603
You could literally start with Flash Venom and it might actually work better with Eddie in there as a sort of recovering addict warning him about the dangers of the symbiote, becoming Anti-Venom in the sequel.
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>>80645664
>it would be better to focus on a character who has been around Spider-Man since high school over a character who only heard of Spider-Man in his 30's

Doing Flash wouldn't make any sense, they're more likely to go with Brock because they can develop him solely without depending on Spider-Man.
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>>80645639

The Symbiote needs to be off of spider-man to be Venom, so they have to explain that which would need its own movie. Then do venom origin or whatever. Or else its gonna be SM3/ASM2 all over again where they are gonna end up cramming multiple plots into one movie resulting in a mess
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>>80645736
>they have to explain that which would need its own movie
no it wouldn't
>scene of spider-man getting rid of the symbiote
>roll opening credits
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>>80645167
Supposedly Marvel is advising them on things so as to keep the Sony produced Spider-Films in line with the MCU but Sony is free to do what they want and ignore any input Marvel wants to give them.

Which would seem like a dumb move but then again just look at Sony's cinematic output over the past few years.
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