There is no objective criteria by which one's worthiness to wield Mjolnir may be ascertained.
Yes there is: the ability to wield it. That's exactly how the whole thing works.
>>80517210
If you display the qualities Odin deems worthy
Until that wasn't it anymore
Be strongest one there is.
>>80517210
the enchantment was placed by Odin so I assume the criteria are based on his own beliefs of worth
>>80517210
Well considering that the rule was meant to be subjective (Odin's permission), that makes sense.
So say thor is incapacitated and some evil robot/alien/whatever is about to kill people I care about, is the hammer self aware enough to know that I need it's power for 5 mins to deal with this problem? Or am I fucked?
>>80517418
if you truly believe that you are going to save others, not just your own ass, it might
>>80517418
> 5 mins
nah son, you are now the new Thor.
>>80517418
That's what let Superman wield it.
>>80517483
Bullshit, undeserving people have used it trying to save their own ass too.
It will let you use it to kick the guy's ass or buy Thor time but will stop as soon as a better option arrives.
Bill wielded it because he was the guardian of his race right?
>>80517912
MODS!
>>80517951
LOW
TEST
>>80517210
willingness to sacrifice oneself, body and mind for the sake of greater good
see beta ray bill, literally genetically engineered to do exactly that
>>80517749
No, because his actions were worthy of a hero, so he was granted the power of Thor.
>>80517687
[citation needed]
There really is non, I realized that when Ragnarok managed to wield one
>>80517210
It could be argued that Odin's opinion is objective, seeing as how he stands as the greatest force for law
>>80517210
This is classic Anon fail.
>>80518100
This. Maybe a little living life to the fullest thrown in to the mix too. Some wisdom too. Dignity should be a biggy too.
And it's kinda the basic superhero quality people once understood without having to ask.
That is why you fail.
>>80517210
i hate those stupid lines in movie Mjolnir, is a mystical weapon not a fucking ipod, it may be my autism talking but putting tech lines in a mystical objects is so fucking stupid to me and it ruins the simplistic design that wasn't broken to begin with.
>>80517210
Thor's sort of a douch and he can weild. The hammer doesn't have good standards.
>>80517210
the hammers point of view
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo
>>80517360
That's Ultimate Marvel.
The criteria is whatever the writers decide
>>80517749
>>80519075
I don't think you guys are actually disagreeing. Bill's service to his people in guarding them was sufficiently noble and bold for him to be able to lift Mjolnir.
So how did Jane Foster become worthy?
>>80527186
She was the kind of mortal human woman that Thor, GOD of thunder, could fall in love with.
If you don't think that implies some sort of worthy qualities within her then you don't respect the worthiness of Thor, GOD of thunder, himself.
Everyone forgets that a willingness to kill is a requirement as well.
Several heroes were unable to wield it (Including Superman except for those few pages) because they were not "True Warriors" in Odin's opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eDWy8XQmIo
Stupid god, you made me look bad! I'm takin' back me mallet!
>>80527265
>those niggas tried to punk me I don't pay that shit
>>80527239
So no actual worthiness on the part of the wielder,just the fact that they were loved by Thor?Please tell me that isn't the actual justification from the comics.
>>80527290
There has been no justification in the comics
>>80527300
Sounds about right
>>80517579
That's not how it works...right?
>>80527290
>>80527300
>>80527339
Shitposts come from an inability to grasp even the most basic concepts. These are proof of that.
>>80527391
Are you saying I'm wrong? Because I've yet to see an explanation for Jane's worthiness in the comic books.
>>80527355
I think that's how it worked back in the day,if Thor was seperated from Mjolnir for too long,he'd lose all his powers and the new wielder would become Thor
>>80527418
Bill didn't become Thor when he picked up Mjolnir you dingus
>>80527425
I think they had changed it by the '80s
>>80527468
If you can find me a single instance of someone other than Donald Blake picking up Mjolnir and literally becoming Thor himself, I'd be happy to accept you're right about this.
>>80527412
I wasn't saying you were wrong in that post, I was saying that you lacked the mental capacity to evaluate worthiness as you clearly are incapable of understanding conceptually parameters of exclusion based upon standards of any kind.
That's kinda the gist of what you posted up there. Can't you even see that?
>>80527533
Literally all I said was that there hasn't been a justification in the comics.
Are you suggesting all three of those posts are mine?
>>80527492
Don't you think that the original Thor themself being found unworthy for the first time ever when someone else wields the hammer is an unknown factor that changes the possibilities?
No? Because that's ever happened before? Still no?
You've read just that situation in a comic before or you somehow have exclusive authority as to what the canon would be?
No to that too?
Well, it would seem like you're just full of shit and complaints. And you've given us your complaints.
Think about a guy that you think is the coolest guy around. You probably don't have specific criteria for what's cool, but there he is. That's Odin, plus he really likes dudes who fight shit. Like how Jane Foster fought cancer.
>>80527640
I'm not talking about things that have changed. I'm asking you to provide evidence for your claim that picking up Mjolnir used to turn that person into Thor
>>80527824
How about the original example?
This dude was a human being.
Doc Blake wasn't a god without the hammer.
>>80528930
>This dude was a human being.
He was't though.
>>80517210
Congratulations OP, you now understand how language works.
>>80528981
Actually was though, that was Odin's big lesson of humility. All the godhood was shoved into Mijolnir for safe keeping.
>>80528981
*wasn't, sorry. Anyway, what I mean is if the original intention was that Donald Blake was just a normal man who received the power of Thor, that was soft-retconned pretty early on as him actually BEING Thor, sent to Earth to learn humility. So in Canon, No Non-Thor entity has actually become the person of "Thor Odinson". Sometimes they are referred to as a "Thor", but not the actual Thor.
>>80517210
It's confidence in your virginity. At least the MCU one is.
See Thor has no problem being a virgin, so he can pick it up. Steve is a virgin but is not confident about it so the hammer budged when it detected his virginity but also felt he was trying to hide it, so it stopped moving.
Vision was just born, straight virgin so lifting the hammer was easy for him.
>>80529062
Ooooh, so that is why Black Window refused to try picking it up. She is such a slut that the hammer would have sunk to the floor, makes sense.
>>80529180
Absolute whore.
>>80529180
Exactly, it would of burned the hand of the succubus.
>>80529062
>>80529180
Oh, you'd say that, wouldn't you? Unworthy sour grapes are the worst.
sup faggot hammer
>>80529701
Tony pls go.
You need to be a woman with breast cancer. No one else is brave enough, except maybe, MAYBE Caitlyn Jenner.
>>80529884
Shut up Kyle.
Could god make a hammer so heavy even he himself could not lift it?
>>80529062
>>80529180
so the reason it didn't move for tony is because he's a man whore and proud?
>>80531189
Yeah.
