If congress decided that Superman couldn't be trusted to use his powers responsibly, what exactly could they do about that?
What is the extent of the government's ability to restrain Superman, legally and logistically speaking?
>legally
Zero if he doesnt interfer with police or military affairs. Arguments could be made that he is an illegal aliean but the worst congress could do was banish him fron united states soil.
>logistically
Probably jack shit short of a nuke.
I've always thought that if anyone as powerful as Superman showed up the governments of the world should probably think of them less like individuals and more like countries themselves
Someone like Superman is impossible to contain or combat by conventional means so you have to ask "Are we as a nation prepared to go to war with this superpower" if the answer is no then a treaty or non-aggression pact would be the best thing for everybody
>>80381483
>>80381568
These pretty much sum it up in the best way
They could attempt to deport him in some fashion but when it comes to force they have little to no options depending on how much/little is known about Supes in that medium
I'd love to see this turned on other characters like Captain Marvel or the metal men
>>80381898
>captain marvel
Child services would have a field day with wanton endangerment of a minor for his guardian. He would be put back in foster care so quick it would make your head spin.
>metal men
Literally zero rights under the law since we dont even consider dolphins or monkeys to have any rights despite having human like intelligence. The goverment could do whatever they want to them with zero legal red tape to get past
>>80381483
Many versions of Supes can tank a nuke (including current), and even more can disarm one before it detonates
>>80381388
>If congress decided that Superman couldn't be trusted to use his powers responsibly, what exactly could they do about that?
Talk to the famous tech billionaire and genius who is offering a state of the art countermeasure.
>>80381388
Not that they could enforce anything but they could state he needs to follow FAA regulations in relation to his flight powers.
So he'd have to file a flight plan 24 hours, I think it is, in advance.Or if they would classify him like they do remote control aircraft and, again I'm like 70% pulling these numbers out of my ass, require him to limit his speed below 60 mph, set an altitude limit, and require him to stay out of preset air traffic lanes.
>>80381388
>What is the extent of the government's ability to restrain Superman, legally and logistically speaking?
They've got nothing on him, but his parents would be in deep shit for fraud amongst other things.
>>80382258
Unless they lived in the EU, where Artificial intelligence is already guaranteed human rights.
>>80382311
What could Billy Zane do against Superman?
>>80384311
>>80382258
Its illegal to kill most ape species as well as dolphins. There has been plenty of talk, admittedly only on an academic level, about the rights of A.I. and at what point it has it's own rights. Same goes for cloning.
>>80384244
naw Supes just claims he came here illegally for a better life and Ma and Pa helped him with it, libs fall all over themselves on how an illegal alien is saving everyone
So who's the scientist guy in the bat vs super trailer? I never figured that out.
>>80384244
>>80385039
why are you guys assuming they've found out that Superman=Clark Kent
Why doesn't Superman attack North Korea?
>>80381388
>If congress decided that Superman couldn't be trusted to use his powers responsibly, what exactly could they do about that?
Fuck all.
>>80386071
because North Korea would just start killing their own population
and he'd have to dismantle the entire government top to bottom to even have a chance of effecting a permanent change, and even then, a) what is he going to do with the people he removes from power, b) what system is he going to implement to replace it and how will he implement it, and c) even if every single government official was removed from power, the country might just go right back to the way it was anyway, if not worse
Geopolitical affairs like that are far too complex for a single man, no matter how super
>>80386146
Damnit, why does evil always have to be on this earth???
>>80386146
There's been a lot of cruel and incompetent governments but I'm pretty sure taking the entirety of your own people literally in hostage would be a new one.
So nah, Kim might be a deluded asshole, but he's not an actual supervillain.
>>80386274
Because free will.
>>80386316
>we need to save you from the perils of the American devil trying to take you from the great Motherland and force you into a life of slavery and oppression
>>80386146
You know the only reason South Korea hasn't done an intervention is because there's enough artillery pointing at Seoul to make the civilian loss of life not worth it, right? And China encourages this because it keeps South Korea on their toes and they don't want an actual power at their doorstep.
If someone took out those artillery pieces with, say, 'super' powers, a peaceful transition is possible. It wouldn't be neat, in fact it would be very messy, but North Korea isn't actually very militarized. Dismantle the military, feed the community, and you'll have a corrupt rump-end of a full Korea. No refugee crisis, no problem.
>>80386146
>>80386406
I think everyones forgetting as well: The entire country is a super cult. They literally belive Kim is a fucking god amoungst men. They have been so brain washed, that if someone came in, took out the goverment, they would likely run in a suicidal rage at you with any weapon they could find. They would not have a single thought about collateral. Thew 3% working in the slave mines and trying to escape are not enough to sway the rest.
>>80387508
No they wouldn't
Don't be dense
Actual people living there who got out say that it's just a thing the military goes on about, it's not a damn religion, people might not counter-say it but they don't really fucking believe that Kim did eight holes-in-one at the age of four, hell there's even a black market
>>80381388
They'll make a shitty bizarro doomsday superman of their own in an arms race for mutually assured destruction, which will go berzerk and kill a bunch of people only to be put down by the original, and then he'll go "lol u gaiz u can trust me" and fly off without actually having addressed the problem beyond lip-service.
Because that's what ALWAYS happens. CADMUS exists almost entirely as a plot device to do that story again and again. Only this time we'll all praise it as a thought provoking cinematic masterpiece.
>>80384336
give him tips for embracing his bald head
>>80384336
Dude, he's the ghost that walks. Can't fight that.
They would it make it the law to give him the silent treatment. Its illegal to acknowledge his existence and media isn't allowed to mention him.
They also throw parades for a made up super hero name duper man and attribute all of sups accomplishments to him.
>>80387841
Best and most correct answer.
They send in this guy and pray he doesn't job.
>>80387841
Duper man would acknowledge him in meta. The best possible answer would be a propaganda type hero, one who is born in America, for America. He doesn't even have to have super powers, just put America in a shining light.
So how exactly is this Congressional panel going to enforce Superman to abide whatever decision they lay down? They DO realize that he could've easily taken over the Earth as a god-King, but chooses to testify to Congress like any other person.
>>80387600
>>80388916
http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/All-American_Boy
>>80381388
What can they do?
Superman is ridiculously strong, ridiculously smart, ridiculously fast, he is super OP.
Living in a world of superheroes is shit for us common people. We can only pray another 'hero' can appear and put him in line.
>>80387508
read a book
>>80389294
Why would Superman need to be put in line? He never does anything but help people
>>80387896
I really don't understand how superman was ignoring the red sun radiation. It was night time and the were underground. Shouldn't superman have gotten weaker with every blow and had his powers drained before the end of the fight?
Really made no sense how he kept ignoring one of his glaring weaknesses
>>80389352
Which Superman you are referring? Because Superman DID in many comics turn against people.
And every time 'Supermans' went against the common people the common people lost. The arcs we win is because of other super characters.
Regardless, it's very stupid to let a living nuke walking freely without any kind of failsafe.That's why I don't blame Cadmus. Authors wanted us to stand against them, but they never replied the point that 'every simulation that the JL went against the world, the world lost'.
>>80381388
>If congress decided that Superman couldn't be trusted to use his powers responsibly, what exactly could they do about that?
>What is the extent of the government's ability to restrain Superman, legally and logistically speaking?
absolutely nothing.
they have no power to stop him from doing anything he feels like doing, from saving kittens to raping octogenarian grannies with a tea spoon.
see, the more you think about it, more reasonable bats and Lex sound
>>80389362
Red sun-augmented attacks like firearms or lasers or a guy wearing a sun on his fists can cut through Superman's defenses.
It takes prolonged or high intensity exposure to fully deplete Superman's solar battery. Something that small would need Superman being exposed for hours if not days and already exhausted.
This is why any anti-Kryptonian measure involving red light usually involves flooding the entire containment area.
>>80389433
This is not reason.
It's literally terror of confronting something that you do not understand.
Everyone is afraid of the unknown, but fear without reason leads to stupid actions
>>80381568
People have managed to beat Superman alot, and the USA should have full access to 'unconventional means' that are available due to existing in a comicbook univer
>>80389736
yes, but in comicbook universe no one cares anymore because Superman has already saved the world a dozen times.
>>80386406
you're also forgetting how much money you would need to make North Korea catch up to south korea and how it would be the usa and the south footing the bill. we would need to pay for infrastructure,education,food,technology,and other necessities.
>>80389362
See, I never understood red sun=drains power for Superman. Shouldn't it just block him from recharging? He should have a decent amount of power still stored in his cells.
>>80389996
When he absorbs it, the more he absorbs, the more of it his system has to process out.
Example.
If yellow sun is 1, red sun is 0.
If he absorbs 200 yellow sun, he comes out at 200. Positive.
But if he's absorbing 100 yellow sun and 100 red sun, then he comes out at 100. Half as strong.
Then 100 yellow sun and 200 red sun. Comes out at 33.3. A third.
And so on and so forth.
His body doesn't seem to distinguish the difference, so it can't really prioritise yellow over red. If anything, actually, it's the other way around, and his body naturally prefers red sun energy to yellow sun energy.
That last would be especially relevant to MoS, since it's mentioned that adapting to Earth would involve sickness and lengthy adaption, so given a chance, his body would probably revert to the "natural" element it prefers over the supercharged one (and when it happens in MoS, while there is pain it seems to pass relatively quickly versus months/years of adaption he had the other way around).
>>80389362
Red sun radiation replaces the yellow sun radiation superman has stored with radiation that does not give him super powers. It only makes him weaker in the sense that he's not AS super as he used to be. Getting charged with 50% red sun radiation still means he's 50% "super" and that's enough to fuck most things up.
Kryptonite radiation replaces the yellow sun radiation Superman has stored with radiation that actively poisons him. Getting charged with even just 5% kryptonite radiation is enough to severely disable him because it's actively killing him by being inside him.
>>80381388
Ignoring his powers for a moment, Is he technically an American citizen? I know the Kent's raised him but they couldn't have filled out any adoption or immigration papers, what would his legal status actually be?
>>80390275
As Superman (Kal-El) he's officially been given citizenship in most of the countries on Earth, and a few planets elsewhere.
As Clark Kent,in Byrne's Man of Steel, the birthing matrix meant he wasn't fully born until he was on Earth, so he was born on Earth, in Kansas.
>>80387896
Yeah, and all he needs to do is have one bad run in with parasite, and BAM there goes Kansas.
You're all just describing the events of Kingdom Come!
>>80381388
They couldn't do fuck all, really.
>>80390275
The kents could just say they had a home birth
>>80390418
That was the excuse they used pre-nu52. The Kents found Kal-El right before a major blizzard kept them isolated from town for 3 months. By the time it was spring, they announced their new baby boy. Martha had several miscarriages and stillbirths so that's the reason why they didn't tell anyone she was "pregnant" so that she wouldn't be heartbroken again.
>>80390418
They would still need documentation, medical records and such.
Even if they could give baby Clark a full medical exam, super paranoid Pa Kent would likely not allow it for fear of them discovering he was alien.
Honestly, falsifying medical records has always been a glossed over issue with the Kent's adopting Clark since the modern era.
KRYPTONITE OBVIOUSLY
>>80390773
Don't some of his origin stories involve a lot of people in his home town close to him and his parents knowing he's an alien? Something about the local doctor forging medical records as a favor to the Kents.
>>80382295
DCEU superman is kinda nerfed though compared to his comic counterparts. DCAU supes was weak as fuck too.
