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Was it a good idea to make this pairing canon? Also, this is
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Was it a good idea to make this pairing canon?
Also, this is a Scooby Doo thread.
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>>79746756

Better than "hidden lesbian".

God, I hate that in kids show.
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>>79746756
Not in my opinion, but it was cute for a minute or two, so that was nice.
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>>79746756
It would've been better with Shaggy and Daphne in my opinion.
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>>79746756
I think I read somewhere that they actually were a thing in the original episodes.
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What they should really make canon is Fred and Velma.
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>>79746796
Was it?
Was making Velma into a huge bitch who demanded Shaggy and Scooby quit being friends worth her not being a carpet lesbian?
What if I told you after Shaggy calls her on being a psycho bitch, she turns into an outright lesbian with the show's closet lesbian?
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>>79746877
Yes, making her a lesbian is fucking retarded.
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>Canon
>Split up halfway through
>Shaggy does more stuff to Daphne in an episode than to Velma in half a season
>They don't give a single fuck about each other in S2
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>>79746895
Why?
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>>79746756
If the writers had been committed to it then yes

But they seemed more in favor of.explaining why it didn't work rather than either not doing it or using it as a springboard for character growth
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>>79746756
It was an okay idea.
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>>79746895
but she looks like a lesbian
she acts like a lesbian
she has better chemistry with an equally nerdy girl than with any guy
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>>79747062
>she looks like a lesbian
Fuck off with this shit.
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>>79747078
you know, one of the easiest signs of denial is unwarranted hostility
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>>79747062
>but she looks like a lesbian
>she acts like a lesbian
Top lel.
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>>79746756
Fuck you, it's velma X johnny bravo or it's nothing.
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>>79746756
>canon
the hole point of this ship was for it to fail
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http://scoobyaddicts.com/Interviews.aspx?name=Mitch%20Watson&id=7

>At first people weren’t sure, especially some of the changes and relationships we had with the main characters. Velma seemed to garner the most hostility, but if you track her storyline from start to finish, you can see what we were doing with her. We very specifically wanted to show a young, bright girl trying to figure out how she fits into the world. Velma is smarter than everyone, which makes it hard for her to be patient with people. She is also confused by what she wants in a romantic relationship. Over the course of the story we can see her figuring all this stuff out, and in the end making some decisions about who she is.

What does this mean?
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>>79747685
/co/ got mad at change that wasn't change
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>>79747685
She was a closeted lesbian that only found out about her own feeling when she got cucked for a dog and then cucked by a mermaid.
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>>79747685
>the show was an international success

You wouldn't be able to tell from how CN treated it.
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>>79746829
Let's be honest, who hasn't ridden this bicycle?
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>>79746756
i Love it when faggots say Mystery Inc was great, and then they post this shit


i love how MIfags are completely delusional in every way

What's New Scooby Doo Masterrace
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>>79748298
they don't call him "shaggy" for nothing.
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>>79748309
What's New Scooby-Doo was fucking garbage.
Red shirt Shaggy era was even better than that shit.
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>>79748377
correction: BCSD is garbage

wash out that taste fella
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>>79748309
>What's New Scooby Doo Masterrace
Sick Scooby nightmare. lol what a fag.
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>>79748470
>lol
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>>79746870
Pretty much.
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>>79746870
>friendship/rivalry gets some focus in Scooby Doo movie
>Fred and Daphne get together despite barely interacting in the movie
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>>79747685
>fansite dedicated to one cartoon
Oh man this is a time capsule
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So what were the implications Velma was a lesbian BEFORE Mysteries Inc was made?

I can't remember any.
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>>79749918
Look at their forum. Look at how many subboards they have.
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>>79747062
Way to force stereotypes.

There's literally nothing wrong or even out of place about a heterosexual Velma.

Even Shaggy/Velma could've worked if the writers didn't decide to make her a clingy cunt and/or didn't turn Scooby into an equally jealous cunt.

Christ, bad as Velma was, Scooby was worse than Nigel Tufnel.
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>>79750031
you know, going on /co/ every single day doesn't look as bad when there are people posting in those forums just as much.
though the "generalization" of websites really has made it harder to connect with people online in a meaningful way

>>79750112
I don't think that making her a lesbian/bisexual is only because she acts a certain way, but its acceptable since she hasn't shown herself to have significant chemistry with male characters, so the stereotypes make sense in this context (and also stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason).
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>>79750196
>she hasn't shown herself to have significan chemistry with male characters

>I've never seen Zombie Island

She and that cop fucked. Count on it.
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>>79750252
in MI
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>>79750351
Oh, we're just talking about Mystery Inc.

Again, wasn't fond of the writers and the shit they were pulling from "like, we can't let Scoob know we're dating" bullshit.
Scooby would be chiller than that, and I feel Velma would've been less of an attention whore as a result.
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>>79749703
I'm pretty sure they only did that because the original show does it.
Even though Fred and Velma have more in common with each other than they do with Daphne and Shaggy. Who in turn also have more in common with each other.
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>>79750425
That is true. They like playing Fred off as a dumbass these days, but back then, he was the strategist.
I could easily see he and Velma playing Risk.
They only made him stupid later because he looked like a jock, and to give him more chemistry with Daphne.
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I really liked Mystery Inc, but Shaggy x Velma was the weakest part. Daphne x Fred was a much more entertaining story, mainly because Fred was the best part of the show.
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>>79746756
>Was it a good idea to make this pairing canon?
It was MI's only mistake
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>>79748309
>What's New Scooby Doo Masterrace
>Implying 13 Ghouls wasn't the best the show's ever been
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>>79752393
Shoestring budget.
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My OTP.
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Honestly I felt that the lesbian thing was there because of people like us. Everyone kept talking about Velma as a lesbian since forever, so it was natural to expect at least one Scooby Doo show to depict her as such.

You have only yourself to blame.

I wasn't that angry about it though, not in the same way as these types of things usually make me.I guess it's just because I don't take lesbianism seriously.
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mystery inc would be the best of all the scooby doo shows if they had fred be actually smart instead of just a trap-obsessed ignorant blond and without this awful shitshow of a 'romance' that had the potential to sink the entire group
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>>79754385

Bullshit, Fred was amazing.
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I liked the idea but the fact they wasted so much time with Scooby having a problem with it for no real reason was dumb.

They should've just been an odd couple mostly for jokes with maybe some drama every now and then but that's it.
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>>79754470
>I liked the idea but the fact they wasted so much time with Scooby having a problem with it for no real reason was dumb.
And then when Scoob gets a girlfriend Shaggy doesn't do any of that shit.

Shaggy is a true bro.
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>>79755549
I missed this. What happen?
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>>79755743
Daphne thought Shaggy was Fred, and Shaggy thought he was Fred. They were that high.
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>>79755743
Drugs. Daphne and Shaggy both thought Shaggy was Fred.
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>>79755789
>>79755786
That's pretty funny. What was the aftermath?
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>>79755789
>>79755786
Holy shit what.
Downloading this
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>>79756131
The episode is called Night Terrors, and if I recall correctly it is one of the episodes with an actual ghost in it.
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The writers knew they would never survive in today's cartoon market without forcing a ship
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I didn't watch a ton of MI, but I never really like this pairing. It always just feels like Fred and Daphne are meant to be a couple and then Shaggy and Velma are just paired up as the leftovers.
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>>79754385
Fred was smart, just not good with people.
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>>79755847
Fred didn't notice, Daphne was embarrassed, and Shaggy was temporarily attracted to her for the rest of the episode.
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>>79748298
which one? because daphne's only ever been set up with Fred.

Shaggy, on the other hand, has been set up with not only velma and daphne, but also two other girlfriends in the 90s movies. and that's not even counting the many villains over the years that have seduced him.
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>>79746756
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>>79755786
For some reason I read that as "And Shaggy thought she was Fred."
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>>79758274
I suppose that answers OP's question.
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>>79746877
>Was making Velma into a huge bitch who demanded Shaggy and Scooby quit being friends
That shit happen because Shaggy was acting like Velma and Scooby can't coexist in his life. It was his fault that that happened.
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>>79761115
Shaggy being right about Scooby didn't help. Why make Scooby such a piece of shit in the first place?
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>>79747685
>looking up info on this dude
>Mystery Inc was treated like shit by CN
>Beware the Batman was treated like shit by CN
>finally find award-winning success by working on a fucking Dreamworks spin-off

Huh
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