Can you name some DC/Marvel characters who had died and STAYED dead?
alternate universes notwithstanding
>>79726009
I'm guessing clones don't count either since there have been a dozen of Gwens running around since she died.
spiderman's uncle. the living torch.
anyone else might as well be superhero parents
For how long?
Jean DeWolff
Rikki Barnes is still dead five years later, bar one alternate universe. Unless she's not, I haven't been reading comics lately.
Before the New52, Sgt. Rock was confirmed as having died by the last shot fired in the European theater of operations.
>>79726009
And then she fucked Green Goblin.
Also, it's gonna be six years now in April.
John Proudstar
>>79726009
/thread
>>79726009
Martha and Thomas Wayne
Ben Parker
Pretty much anyone who died as part of an origin story
Close enough
>>79726009
In staying dead, being unpopular helps immensely
Hulk's wives are very dead.
Katma Tui's been dead for almost 30 years
>>79726793
He gets a lot of day release from dead tho.
>>79727333
That sucks. No matter he rages, can't get the poon.
>>79726476
That Ricki Barnes story with Patriot in Captain America #600 was mad cute
>>79727870
The original Rikki Barnes still exists on the first version of counter earth that Franklin created, the one that was flooded when it was pulled into the 616 universe to take the place of the original counter earth.
>>79726009
Mar-Vell
Richard Rider
>>79729083
He came back to life for a while during avx.
Ice from DC comics. She got killed in the 90´s and never come back
>>79728844
I keep losing track of how many Counter-Earths there are. I know the one from Onslaught Reborn was in a pocket universe, but there's nothing to say Rikki and that entire world weren't just hidden away there by Franklin, especially considering that Rikki knew everything she should have from her time on Counter-Earth and they seemed to be pretty similar places from what was shown.
Now that the High Evolutionary's Counter-Earth is back for no raisin, I would guess the Handbook needs an update to reflect the fact that there isn't room for both Counter-Earths in the solar system.
Or you know, the Avengers could blow some of them up for shits and giggles.
>>79729083
Ship is still dead, right?
>>79727333
Don't remind me. I miss Jarella so much.
Tim Drake after Flashpoint
Jason Todd may be alive, but he has as much of a personality as a dead person
>>79729445
Tora? She did come back though, she was still around when Flashpoint happened and she's still around now
Sigrid on the other hand got skinned alive in the early 2000s and was never seen again
did this gal ever come back?
>>79727158
It also hasn't been that long. Wait until Slott's gone, someone will bring her back.
>>79726793
I thought they did bring him back to be warden of some Negative-Zone jail built by Tony and Reed during Civil War ?
>>79727375
Oh hey good point. Did Abin Sur (Hal Jordan's predecessor) ever come back from the dead?
>>79730615
As far as I know she never was mentioned in the new 52 so I guess she's kind of like a Schrodinger's cat until someone either uses her or mentions that she's dead.
>>79730849
Nope, although he did hang around Spectre Hal as his ghost buddybefore he reincarnated and became the little girl
>>79730849
seems like cheating to do origin characters
>>79726009
>Thomas and Martha Wayne
>Gwen Stacy
>Uncle Ben
>>79726009
:^)
>>79730967
>Gwen Stacy
No, nigga, no.
>>79726009
Stan Lee
>>79726009
Gwen
Captain Stacey
Uncle Ben
Captain Mar-Vell
Phyla Mar-Vell
Genus Mar-Vell
Abin Surr
Thunderstrike
Doc Samson
Ben Reilly
The Flash Family (fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu)
Essentially anyone who's related to Mar-Vell, or is someone Spider-Man cares about
>>79730918
good point; their death was before the story started.
I'm guessing Marvel brought back the Beyonder even after the ending of Secret Wars II. (looks it up) oh jesus christ, they made a RACE of Beyonders?
>>79730815
That one was a Skrull impostor.
>>79726009
Ryan Choi
>>79726009
Everyone from Powergirls Earth.
Everyone pre-52.
>>79726009
Skin and Banshee (and Synch, I guess but who cares about him). It's a bit more difficult with Banshee since his body is up and running but I think it's safe to say that's not him.
>>79726009
Would Blue Beetle count?
>>79731210
This big guy here, revived during necrosha but that was after almost 30 or 20 years of being dead
Pyro.
>>79726476
I don't think Rikki ever died? She just stuck around on Counter-Earth.
>>79726009
Uncle Ben? I thought there was a motto about Bucky, Jason Todd and Uncle Ben being the only staying dead, then Bucky became the Winter Soldier and Todd became Red Hood.
>>79727375
Well yeah, if they brought her back, Faggots would whine that he isn't fucking Hawkgirl.
>>79729578
>Ship is still dead, right?
She was revealed destroyed back during that Thanos miniseries before Annihilation, and I don't think anybody cared enough to bring her back.
She may come back during Hopeless's Star-Lord Origins series, but that's a prequel so it doesn't count.
>>79726009
The sad part is that, for first time, it should had been a dream or some shit.
>>79736545
There's no point bringing him back anyway since we have Warpath. Which reminds me, when's the last time Warpath showed up?
>>79737321
Last time I saw him was Kyle and Yost's X-Force.
>>79726009
The Abomination died almost 8 years ago and he still hasn't come back despite being in a movie, several cartoons and several videogames during that period. Weird.
>>79730849
Sometimes it feels like he did with all the Abin Sur flashback stuff which happened around Sinestro Corps War and up into the first 10 issues of New 52 GL.
>>79730980
He isn't dead, the Apocalypse Twins brought him back as a Horseman of Death, and then he somehow got over the Death Seed and is back to normal
>>79726714
Yeah Thunderbird is likely never coming back since Warpath fills his role and has been around for far longe than John ever was.
>>79729578
>Ship is still dead, right?
616 Ship was only seen in flashbacks and Pete claims she was destroyed. The backstory of Star-Lord in 616 is insanely convoluted because of writers doing one thing, then new writers coming along and using the 70's stuff as canon.
Similarly the current situation with "is the Groot in GOTG right now the original Groot or not?" is fucked beyond help.
>>79736041
Jesse Bedlam too. And I think Negasonic Teenage Warhead is still dead?
>>79726793
This.
Yes, he comes back for a day whenever there's a "dead characters return from the dead!" plot. But that only reinforces his status as THE dead superhero.
Jean
>>79736983
They already whine about that
>>79726009
The Waynes?
>>79736789
If it's still even there.
Or do you not know about the stuff after Heroes Reborn?
>>79730808
Yeah, it's not like that huge Spider-event called "Dead No More", written by Slott, is going to possibly ressurect Sable, especially considering that he shown that Pete is still feeling guilty as fuck about the whole situation in one of the recent issues.
>>79727375
One minute of silence for one of the greatest green lanters of all times.
>>79727375
A lot of green lanterns remain dead or go missing.
Do Black Lanterns count?
Cause if so the list shortens by a good chunk.
>>79739925
She was a fairly major character in the 80s GL book and her death was a textbook fridging, she wasn't a background cannon fodder character
Heinrich Zemo
Vic Sage and Ted Kord
>>79726009
Did the Grey Goblin die? I don't think he came back.
>>79726009
That guy who made Captain America and many of the people from Krypton.
>>79740128
God?
>>79740022
Wasn't Vic Sage in the new suicide squad?
I mean it's not the same as the Question Vic, but in name's sake ...
Also I think Ted Kord was briefly shown at the beginning of that Forever Evil jazz, talking to Lex Luthor.
>>79740283
>>79740022
I think technically according to OP's exclusion of alternate universes, with DC anybody who died before Flashpoint is dead even if they're headlining their own book now.
ben and possibly kaine, some symbiotes, richard, mettle and most of those shitty kids that died during that event
>>79737321
I mean, he died in like what, the first issue he was in? I think he was always designed to be repalced by by warpath anyway
>>79740365
It was either him or Wolverine, according to people who worked on the book. Imagine if they decided to kill Wolverine.4 books for Proudstar and eternal bitching from 4chan.
Wessley Dodds the Golden age sandman died and stayed dead in the main continuity.
He died liked like a G too.
>>79739953
if she was already a major character that's not textbook fridging. Fridging is the act of killing off a garbage character for the sake of building the main protag's character base or reason for a certain story plot or something.
I tried to leave out all the normal anti-male connotations that go with people who use the term fridging #takingitback
Refer to the original fridge of Kyle's girlfriend, who I think has remained dead?
>>79740403
I don't think that would've ever happened. It may have been discussed around the office but, probably never seriously.
>>79740445
>Fridging is the act of killing off a garbage character for the sake of building the main protag's character base or reason for a certain story plot or something.
She was killed off to give John and Hal man pain, that IS fridging
>>79739918
Charlie is still dead and will continue to remain dead because no one remembers his time as a GL or even as a Darkstar.
RIP
>>79727158
I thought there was a Spider-man comic that said Silver Sable was still alive somewhere.
>>79726498
Seriously, he went out All Quiet on the Western Front style?
>>79740767
He'll be back, someday
You'll see ;_;
>>79740445
>anti-male connotations
lol what a gay
>>79727158
Was this because she died in ends of the earth or something els
>>79740365
>I think he was always designed to be repalced by by warpath anyway
Warpath didn't show up over 70 issues later
>>79740750
the reaction isn't necessarily the reason.
>>79741197
That's my bad. I'm a dumb.
>>79741247
>>79740750
It was used to drum up interest in GL and cause conflict between John and Hal. There's a reason it happened in an Action Comics weekly book.
