Given their entire publishing histories, which house do you prefer?
Fantagraphics, 2bh.
Marvel but it is hard to call.
Valiant.
Marvel up until Kirby left for DC.
DC all day erryday. Great heroes, great lore, great stories.
DC. Marvel had some truly great books in the past but too much about their universe turns me right off them.
Marvel but the last physical comic I bought was wack ass ghost racers 1
At the end of the day o look at my shelf and see more Marvel than DC, going to have to go w oh the Marvel, just more characters that I care about.
DC though the New 52 killed it for me. At least there was Multiversity.
Think Marvel has been more consistent on the whole minus their 90s phase of utter shit. I'd say, as a brand, they're objectively "better", but little can compete with the indoctrination into DC fandom the DCAU accomplished.
>>79721121
Marvel had 2 great decades. is in general better.
DC, as long as I've lived and for the foreseeable future.
i like reading both, but i prefer DC.
I grew up with both in the 90s, but then I reread them a decade later and DC worn much better; since then, I prefer DC.
I like Marvel lore, characters, stories better.
Marvel I guess.
Both produce a prodigious amount of utter trash. Both produce the occasional good run.
Picking one is utterly meaningless.
>>79721217
Actually making a list
Marvel:
Miller Janson DD
Elektra Assassin
Nocenti Romita DD
Simonson Thor / FF
Claremont Byrne (up through Romita Jr on the book) X-Men
Punisher MAX
New X-Men
Steranko Shield
X-Statix
Sienkiewicz Moon Knight / New Mutants
Kirby FF
Immortal Iron Fist
Marvel Boy
Weapon X / Machine Man
Earth X
From DC it would be
Watchmen
DKR
DKSA
Year One
Ronin
Final Crisis
Orion
New Gods
Mr. Miracle
All Star Superman
Giffen Levitz Legion
Some other assorted stuff.
Obviously this isn't including things like Epic or Vertigo.
>>79721121
> DC rich guy cosplays in a pimped out car and fights mostly other cosplay enthusiest with zero super human abilities = super hero
>Marvel rich guy makes a exoskelton armor suit that flies and shots shit = super hero
stark is cooler than wayne. batman is the main franchise in DC so Marvel wins
>>79721626
>stark is cooler than wayne
Peak human master of all martial arts > generic robot man
>>79721626
Batman has 1000% better comics however.
Including Vertigo and Wildstorm? DC. Not including Vertigo and Wildstorm? Still DC. Just better characters, and more importantly, more well written books than Marvel has, easily.
DC pretty easy, I like both but DC has been around for longer and Marvel was dead to rights during the 90s and for a good chunk of the '10s.
>>79721626
When I was around 18 I realized that Iron Man killed a lot of people in his first movie and that's what made me go to DC. Iron Man isn't a super hero
DC. I do enjoy some Marvel, mostly Spider-Man and X-Men, but as a whole, DC all the way family.
DC. Its simple. The ONLY good shit to come out of Marvel was Ennis's MAX run, assorted Spiderman (Loeb), FF4 (Hickman), Daredevil (Miller) and X-men. Most other Marvel shit is garbage
>>79721683
An alcoholic businessman who chooses to being hero to save his own life >> Shitty Daredevil rip off
>>79721605
>DKSA
>Final Crisis
>>79721121
DC
There was a stretch where I prefered Marvel's comics but that ended a while ago and it was pretty obvious that it was temporary
>>79721752
>Batman
>Shitty Daredevil rip off
>>79721121
I like both.
>>79721121
I like both but I'm more of a DC guy
DC. Easily.
>>79721683
>Peak human master of all martial arts > generic robot man
I miss the days when Bruce was an actual detective instead of a walking plot device
>>79721857
May Tom King bring this Batman back
>>79721874
Is he writing Batman now?
>>79721857
>>79721874
Read Detective Comics if you want detective action you dunces.
>>79721749
I'd include Ellis' Thunderbolts (which is literally suicide squad) and Morrison X-Men, but otherwise I agree. Marvel is pretty shit as a whole.
>>79721749
Has everyone forgot about CIVIL WAR? That alone is better written than all of DC's lineup combined
>>79721121
DC is always seen as the standard
Marvel is the cheap knockoff that appeals to retards and now SJW femishits libertards.
>>79721749
>My opinion is fact
I'm pretty sure you didn't even read them...
>>79721928
You gotta be more subtle m8.
>>79721896
We don't know but it seems likely
>>79721968
How else can you talk about your opinion?
>hey guys.. I...I really l...like ths... b..but not t...this
>>79721985
Then stop lying you nigger
Funny enough I find Marvel to have more forgetable super hero stories than DC, I have two reason for it.
1- it seems their characters are rooted in conflict, and so the status quo must always return to that conflict, while DC's "blander" character pick up small tidbits of characterization every odd story and stick with it.
2 - the Marvel universe is more "interconnected", every mutant fights the same enemies, every cape fights the same guys in New York, while DC lets each character have their own little microcosm and so grow a set of supporting characters stronger than a civilian love interest or banging some mutant broad.
>>79722004
No. You have to elaborate why they're shit. What makes them shit.
>>79722065
What? Elaborate on literally every single Marvel title besides those three he singled out as enjoyable? You're nuts, pal!
>>79722065
>Whenever you state an opinion you must back it up otherwise it's an undefended fact
What
>>79722101
To be fair, you could generalize a lot of complaints with modern Marvel and be accurate
DC by a wide margin
DC, quite easily.
DC no contest. Deeper lore and much more of an impact on the medium.
>>79722453
That second point isn't even true though.
Marvel. Deeper lore and much more of an impact on medium.
DC, if only because they didn't have to resort to alliteration with their characters due to having bad memoryand still getting their names wrong.
>>79722492
>more of an impact on medium
How the hell do you get to that conclusion?
>>79722552
Starting bronze age and maturing up comics.
>>79721121
DC 4 life
>>79722597
Except they didn't get set off the Bronze Age and they weren't the first to make comics for adults.
I like em both for different things.
Marvel feels more like real people with more distinct personalities and flaws between them. In general they seem more creative on powersets and mixing everything together. Seems like a more lived-in universe. I feel like it goes further into sci-fi and fantasy with the complexity and world building. They manage to ill every single good idea every fuckign time whenever left to their own devices. It's a bunch of wasted potential, especially these later years trying to seem hip and cool.
DC feels much colder, with everyone being an indestructible righteous brick, but they manage to make these archetypes work when they give them the else-world deconstruction and tend to hit my philosophical bone harder. Every single person having a family of up to 10 people with the same power is an interesting concept (different personalities in similar circumstances) that fails to interest me most of the time.
>>79722597
I'm bipartisan but DC and the companies they bought started the Golden Age (Action Comics #1), Silver Age (Showcase #4) and the Dark Age (Dark Knight Returns, Watchmen, Crisis on Infinite Earths )
>>79722656
How about making important comics first available in this side of the world while also providing a space for creators inside to work on personal projects.
>>79722689
He is talking Fantastic Four and really jump starting Superhero comics as a thing.
Also the influence and impact the late 80s of Marvel had is not soon to be forgotten
To me it has always felt like DC is trailing behind.
>>79722597
>maturing up comics
Yeah man. Look at how kiddie this shit is.
>>79721740
>implying movies are based on comic book morals or reality
>>79722689
>God Loves Man Kills
>Night Gwen Stacy Died
>Harry on drugs
>Daredevil
>Moon Knight
>Ghost Rider
>Punisher
>>79722738
>>79722738
this
was before
this
>>79722835
so get fucked
>>79722738
>Yeah man. Look at how kiddie this shit is.
Hey now, that Monster-Man is arguably no longer a person, and Batman has no problem killing animals.
Just like these Chinamen for example.
I read both. DC feels mythic whereas Marvel feels quick. If that makes any sense.
Marvel because ''muh relatable flawed heroes''. But I'm more into DC these days because Marvel is mostly shit except a few books.
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>>79722835
>>79722863
>so get fucked
Be quiet or Papa spank!
>>79722888
>>79722835
but why is he wearing the red?
>>79722756
Did you reply to the wrong person? I didn't say that Marvel didn't start the Bronze Age, I just said that DC had a much bigger influence the other three major Ages. All the comics you listed are Bronze Age.
Make mine DC
>>79722913
This is shit
>>79722888
This is not
>>79722918
>but why is he wearing the red?
Dick Grayson publicly saves an old woman by pushing her out of the way of car, but breaks his arm and has it in a sling.
To distract the public from noticing Robin the Boy Wonder also has a broken arm, Batman puts on different colored costumes every night.
>>79721121
DC, definitely.
Saga of the Swamp Thing, Hellblazer, Morrison´s Doom Patrol, Animal Man, Seven Soldiers, JLA, JSA, All Star Superman, Starman, Golden Age, Sandman, Lucifer, Shade the Changing Man, Giffen and Levitz Legion of Superheroes, LEGION, REBELS, Wolvman and Perez New Teen Titans, Y the Last Man, Books of Magic, Kingdom Come, Superman for all seasons, Red Son, Dark Knight Returns, Batman Year one, The Long Halloween, Dark Victory, Emerald Twilight, Hawkworld, Twilight, Fables, Transmetropolitan, Preacher, Enemy Ace War Idyll, Hunters moon, etc etc
so DC
When it comes to their legacies from their starts as Timely and National, I'd say it's a pretty even race until the 90s. After that point for me, when it comes to quality, DC wins by a giant margin.
I read both, but definitely prefer DC, Spider-Man was the first hero I was obsessed with growing up so there's still some love held over for him, Ultimate in particular is something I have some a lot of love for.
But then that love ebbed and Batman became my new obsession and I grew up on the DCAU and that love never faded. I also just think that DC has produced more truly great runs and single stories.
DC because I don't want superheroes to be flawed and "relatable", I want them to be superheroes
Didnt need movies to get mainstream. Also better event stories.
Punisher: MAX, God Loves Man Kills, Morrison's Marvel Boy, MK: Sentry, Supreme Power, Busiek Thunderbolts, Stern Avengers, KLS, Born Again, Murdock Papers, 1602, Conway Spidey, Alpha Flight, Nextwave, Exiles, Runaways, Peter David Hulk, Future Imperfect, Cleramont X-Men, Morrison X-Men, Eternals, Gruenwald Cap, DeMatteis Moonshadow, Byrne Fantastic Four, Simonson Thor, Elektra: Assassin, Alias, Dreadstar, Infinity Gauntlet, Daredevils, Requiem, Age of Sentry, Fantastic: 1234, DnA Cosmic, Kirby and Ditko Creations, Books of Doom, Triumph and Torment, Stern Spidey, Kooky Quartet Era Avengers, Druid, Ruins, Brubaker Cap and DD, Ultimate Human, Ultimate Spidey, Ellis Moon Knight
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>>79723015
Kinda startling how many of you prefer DC. How do you feel about the current comics?
>>79723173
Admittedly I don't read a great lot of current DC, mainly catching up on reprints of older runs but the current DC stuff doesn't disgust me like current Marvel does. The PC doesn't turn me off, using it as blatant pandering does.
>>79721121
DC and it's not even close.
>>79723142
Glorious Crisis on Infinite Earths
>>79723173
DC has been sticking to their roots and keeping superhero comics the way they should be for the most part.
Marvel has been selling out and owned by Disney. I'm really scared for them.
>>79723208
I say as a huge Marvel fan, DC has several amazing story arcs for basically every one of their major and minor characters.
Their stuff in the late 70's and 80's is top-notch.
The real problem is does a single % matter?
Like I don't / won't read a majority of the work from either because it is boring run of the mill shit.
But the 3% of Marvel comics I enjoy and the 2% of DC comics are really good?
But that is 5% out of 200 and that doesn't seem like a worthy enough distinction.
>>79721121
DC. I like Marvel, but DC really one-ups them with quite a few stories.
>>79723173
I don't really care for either DC or Marvel right now. DC has some okay on-goings, but nothing that has really stuck out to me as anything special. Same goes for Marvel. On top of that, both have been doing some pretty dumb things the past few years.
>>79723173
4chan is the epitome of contraianism of course the majority on this site would side with DC.
>>79723223
/thread
DC, no question. Most of DC's works seem much more memorable than Marvel's.
>>79721121
I've been a DC fag ever since I got into reading comics. I just find the history and cosmology of the setting a lot more interesting than Marvel's. (although I fucking love several Marvel heroes individually, like Daredevil and Moon Knight).
I prefer Marvel because lore and characters are generally more interesting.
>>79723317
>contraianism
There's that word again.
I think you need to back to your home site, tourist.
>>79723317
>Liking DC is contrianism
I like both, if I had to choose one I'll go with DC.
>>79721121
DC easy.
>>79723173
Better than Marvel's current comics.
>>79723317
Pre-2013 /co/ had more Marvel fans than DC though.
>>79723317
You know a lot of us actually read comics. We didn't watch the avengers and pretend to be a comic fan like you.
>>79723173
Not gonna lie, the new 52 had a lot of missteps. But there were a few nuggets in there too, so I never lost hope in DC. They're trying something different, and they're failing a lot, but they're also seeing what works and that's nice to see from an established company. It would be so easy for DC to stick to a formula and run with it forever, and I'm thankful that they dont.
>>79723370
I'm sorry, Marvel shill. Can't we just get along?
>>79723370
>I enjoy X
>FUCKING X SHILL
>>79723370
>copying the shitty Thor movie armored robot design
Disney shills on suicide watch
>>79723356
>>79723359
While most threads about Marvel tend to turn into hysterics, DC threads tend to be a sobering reflection about how much worse they're doing in the market,
>>79721121
One thing I like more about DC is that it's much more isolated. This is definitely a personal preference thing, but I like that you can read a bunch of [character] stories without necessarily dipping in and out of the rest of the universe.
>>79723427
>how much worse they're doing in the market,
Oh, you're one of THOSE.
Kindly off yourself, friend.
>>79723426
>DC fans don't read comics
How typical...
>>79723458
>playing dumb
>>79723453
>Oh, you're one of THOSE.
"Those" what? I want to read good comics from DC but I find very little in the DCYou lineup to be entertaining.
It seems to me that they're blundering a lot of their potential.
>>79721361
Yeah. That they are also adapting their comics to fit the movies turns me off too. Say what you want about DC, but at least they don't cave in like that (yet)
>>79723487
"Those" as in people who cite sales as relevant to any argument involving quality, which is what this thread is about.
>>79721121
Marvel.
But I love DC as well.
>>79723370
>All black the necrosword, destroyer of worlds the annihiblade
Do Marvel fans actually like this shit?
Marvel's comics generally are more interesting visually and DCs more generally revert to a 'Heroic' house style.
>>79723531
Interesting how DC hasn't been good since the 80s
>>79723564
Costume designs and characterization us also better
>>79721626
(You)
>>79723585
I can see how that would true if you haven't read anything since the 80's.
>>79723585
Wow, getting a little old for 4chan, aren't you grandpa?
>>79723585
>DC hasn't been good since the 80s
Source?
>>79723552
I'm a DC fag and I loved the God Butcher arc. It's so ridiculous that it wraps back around to "COMPLETELY FUCKING METAL".
>>79723375
I'd say it was about equal.
>>79723564
Objectively wrong.
>>79723601
Marvel's costumes can hardly even be considered costumes anymore. All the heroes that have a live-action MCU counterpart are getting a "battle outfit" but hardly a superhero costume.
Both of them fucking suck outside of some outliers.
>>79723375
No really. I was the only DC poster. Lol.
>>79723682
Indiean pls go
>>79723653
Not him, but you can't just say that without refuting the argument.
>>79723684
Lol :p
>>79723699
Where do you think we are?
>>79723684
Meant to reply>>79723633
>>79723682
>>79723585
But DC's best time period was the 90's you pleb.
To take a break from company wars and shitposting, what is your favorite series/character from each of the big two?
>>79723668
>Marvel's costumes can hardly even be considered costumes anymore.
POUCHES AS FAR AS TH EYE CAN SEE.
>>79723769
Deadpool and Harley Quinn.
>>79723731
A place of discussion?
>entire publishing histories
DC
>current publishing histories
Marvel
>>79723758
>The Dark Knight Returns, The Killing Joke, Death of Superman, Crisis on Infinite Earths
>>79723769
>To take a break from company wars and shitposting, what is your favorite series/character from each of the big two?
By volume: Batman/Daredevil
>>79723823
Literally only one of those were in the 90's, what is your point?
>>79723699
He didn't have an argument either, he just said something hilariously wrong. I made this argument a few days ago, but DC is better know for it's magic side which is full of non traditional cape stories, while Marvel has a better developed cosmic side, but even then the comics are mostly just "capes in space". marvel built their entire company on making classic superhero stories with "relatable" leads.
You look at DC's biggest hero(Batman) and the Grant Morrison is far away from "house style cape", while on marvel you struggle to find something(especially in the last couple of years) that's not just straight cape. Even characters with lore deeply rooted in occult like Ghost Rider and Dr. Strange get relegated and turned into just normal superhero comics and put on the Avengers.
>>79723823
All those books didn't come out in the same decade....
>>79723769
Marvel: Punisher. MAX was some good shit.
DC: Cass Cain. I loved her Batgirl on-going.
>>79723851
>>79723861
The 80s were better
>>79723853
Okay this all has nothing to do with what I was talking about but well done
(The Morrison Batman Run specifically is FULL OF DC House Style)
>>79723823
Wait, are you claiming Death of Superman was good?
>>79723901
Elaborate.
>>79723901
>The Morrison Batman Run specifically is FULL OF DC House Style
Source?
>>79723769
>Favorite character
>Marvel
I switch between Spidey and DD
>DC
I switch between Dick and Clark
>Favorite series
>Marvel
Bendis DD
>DC
Probably The New Frontier
>>79723933
>>79723932
LARGE SWATHS OF IT IS DRAWN BY A KUBERT SIBLING AND TONY DANIEL
>>79721121
>Marvel: best movies, comics
>DC: Best cartoons
Marvel wins I guess
>>79723932
>>79723933
House Style refers to the "status quo" art style that publishers settle on for a given time period. I'm re-reading through Morrison's run right now and as much as I love it, The whole run up until Quitely takes over is house style.
>>79724007
Even after Quitely leaves and before Burnham takes over there are some rough parts in the middle there too.
>>79723966
>publishing histories
>movies and cartoons
kill yourself
>>79723966
>Obadiah Stane
>Shooting Ahead in Business
>>79721121
Well, Marvel may have heroes but DC has THE heroes, Batman and Superman respectively, plus - much deeper lore and always, in Batman case especially, anthropological take in the stories instead of Marvel's "relatable" pandering characters. So, DC.
>>79723896
So now we don't just have company wars, we have time wars IN the one company.
>>79723951
No, it's not you fucking retard. That's just the first couple of issues. I think the most issues an artist has done on his Batman run is Burnham. Other than tan that the run had JH Williams III, Frazer Irving, Frank Quitely, Ryan Sook and Yanick Paquette.
Peace on Earth is my favorite comic of all time, even more than TDKR and Watchmen and ASSM
I like Marvel heroes more, but I enjoy more DC comics overall. Currently I'm also reading more DC than Marvel.
However, I can't seem to get really attached to DC characters like I do with Marvel characters. I think the settings and stories are much more interesting than the characters themselves when it comes to DC.
>>79724161
read Secret Identity yu'll love it
>>79724090
>Marvel may have heroes but DC has THE heroes, Batman and Superman respectively
Spider-Man is just as big as Batman and Superman
>>79723951
>>79724007
Morrison Batman run ha something like a million artists working on it, that';s the exact oposite of hosue style. House style is safe and same-y fast artists that draw realistic looking characters and have basic layouts.
The "DC is house style" argument is never backed up with any examples, it's just a meme at this point, especially considering how DC has a wide and diverse pool of artists right now while Marvel is settling into a house style with Henderon clones(like the IronFist/Luke Cage artist)
>>79724134
We can go deeper
>>79722973
Man. DC writers of the Silver age were that bad that they suddenly became good and then bad again.
>>79724293
Yes but this thread is not about current DC and Marvel.
>>79724135
I am pretty sure Kubert did like 10 and then Daniel did at least 10-15 with like 3 issues by Williams in the middle.
That run starts earlier and lasts way longer than anyone actually thinks about.
>>79724434
Daniel did fewer issues than Kubert and Burnham did about 12-13. It still doesn't matter since having your art fluctuate and change so much during one run is the exact opposite of house style.
>Yes but this thread is not about current DC and Marvel.
If you're not going to compare their current 50-60 series then what, you're going to cherry pick what you want out of decade of comics to prove your point?
I personally stick with DC but I'm always willing to read anything that catches my interest.
now question, any good Western in the Marvel side? the weirdest the bestest
>>79724658
Well in the years I have been reading comics I have found myself drawn more to the Marvel side if we are only taking these two in and the reason for that has been the artistic talent Marvel has drawn over the years has been more appealing.
Nothing I can say will ever be representative of all DC comics or all Marvel comics and no one expects that.
DC comics and their characters seems more the ones to have a thick jaw and strike a heroic pose than the Marvel ones and that tends to lead to a certain style of art.
Also it looks at the artistic styles the Boom of both companies was founded on. Looking at early Kirby and Ditko Marvel stuff and the DC stuff at the same time personally the Marvel side has always looked more interesting visually and that has continued for every decade from a glance.
The only thing i cared about Marvel was the cosmic stuff, now that is gone there is nothing remotely interesting for me in there.
Which company had the artists that were so popular they could leave and make their own company with blackjack and hookers again
>>79725044
>>79724247
He is the "relatable" type. Part of the whole hero concept is that they are fucking not that.
>>79724988
But you're just cherry picking. Both Ditko and Kirby did work for DC too. So did Frank Miller. And Alex Toth did a lot more work for DC. All you're doing is cherry picking and stereotyping based on what you heard some guy repeat what he heard from some other guy.
Almost everything DC has done is on the front line of comics history.
Marvel is only known for the 60s and their fuckups in the 90s
>>79723682
>(You)
DC. They seem to have more diversity, in the sense that their stories and situations vary from year to year, and I appreciate the amount of times DC's gone to bat for some Z-list comic that obviously wouldn't make it two years, yet breaks the mold with what little time it has.
Marvel just feels like a bunch of people in samey spandex gallivanting around New York for decades, rarely branching off from a city Ijust don't care about. Still, I feel that Marvel was doing neat experiments with Daredevil/Hawkeye/Moon Knight/Thor: God of Thunder/Superior Foes of Spider-Man, but that's all fallen by the wayside and nothing's replaced them.
>>79725260
>Almost everything DC has done is on the front line of comics history.
I think you mean to say, "almost everything on the front line of comics history is something DC has done".
Anyone get the feeling Hickman was brought into FF and then Avengers to DCfy the MU?
>>79721121
One invented superheroes. One came second.
>>79721697
>>79724425
How is that bad? It actually makes sense, Batman didn't want people to figure out Dick Grayson was Robin
>>79721626
With and without the armor Batman would beat Stark's shit anyways.
DC
but the X-Men hold a very special place in my heart.
>>79728312
How do I get into x-men? I always hear about how so much of it is shit.
>Golden Age
Not really relevant in a Marvel vs. DC discussion due to all of the mergers and name changes and whatnot
>Silver Age
Both stellar but Marvel wins by a hair. A HAIR.
>Bronze Age
Impossible to choose. Both 10/10. Best era in mainstream comic by far.
>late 80's / 90's
DC because Vertigo
>2000's - today
Don't really read either but I'll give it to DC because of the Morrison Bat Epic / Hypercrisis
>>79728456
Read Claremont's run or Morrison's run. Everything else is awful or a pale imitation of one of those.
DC by miles. I much prefer DC shared universe in comparison to Marvels. All the individual characters have supporting casts and Histories of their own and crossovers feel more organic. I was enjoying the current Daredevil run from Marvel but the sudden appearance of Captain America for absolutely zero reason has killed all interest. Also I can point to any DC hero hero and find a great run. Something I can't do for Marvel even though a handful of their heroes have some of the best runs in Comics
>>79728514
It's been true for as long as DC and Marvel have been around that DC does better elseworld/isolated stories for their heroes will Marvel has better in universe runs. Those days are fucking over now since Marvel keeps relaunching
>>79721121
DC has more substance, high quality and their aesthetic is alot better, plus they don't push that much leftist liberal propaganda
Marvel.....well its colorful?
>>79728514
>Golden Age
DC because Marvel barely had anything worth revisiting outside of the Invaders members and Howling Commandos
>Silver Age
Marvel wins since they had Kirby at his peak creative output
>Bronze Age
tie
>80s
DC because it hosted more impactful aspects of that era (CoIE, Alan Moore, Gaiman, TDKR, etc)
>90s
DC because it avoided Liefeld and company, plus there were cool books around (Deathstroke, Starman, Legion, the Vertigo line)
>00s
I'd go with DC because Infinite Crisis was an actual attempt at rebuilding the DCU whereas everything past Avengers Disassembled was a destruction of the status quo to force writers to come up with new stories
>10s
Is this even a question?
>>79723769
>To take a break from company wars and shitposting, what is your favorite series/character from each of the big two?
DC
>Batman
Marvel
>Daredevil
I used to really like Wolverine too, and this is actually what made me prefer DC over Marvel. The point of Wolverine, and why he had so much potential as a character is that you didn't really know his backstory.
Sure, you knew he had been a part of the Weapon X project; you knew he was Canadian, and you knew he was really old; but other than that you didn't know anything and neither did he.
You could have Wolverine stories where some dude comes up to Wolverine and be like "You killed my great-granddad in the Weimar Republic and I've been part of a century long vendetta to avenge him" and Wolverine is like "Really? I hung out in Germany in the 1920s?"
But then Marvel decided to write Wolverine: Origins because Fox said they were going to make a Wolverine Origins movie, and they completely destroyed Logan as a character (oh that's right his name isn't actually Logan it's James?!).
>>79729667
That seems rather petty to have that ruin a character for you.
I would probably be close to voting for Wolverine even though I don't tend to read comics for characters, he has some really good ones.
>>79728456
Morrison then Whedon right after. Read Remender's Uncanny X-Force and Spurrier's X-Force. Don't bother with Claremont, dated and boring as fuck despite what /co/ will tell you.
>>79729747
It isn't petty.
They took all of the mystery and narrative potential out of a great character.
I'm sure at some point Marvel will retcon it and the whole James Howlett thing will be like "didn't happen" and they will, hopefully, be people writing good Wolverine stories again.
Notice that I'm talking about Wolverine stories, not X-Men stories.
X-Men has only really been great under Claremont and then Morrison, but I don't really have a massive problem with memories-Logan in X-Men itself. It's Wolverine stories I'm talking about.
>>79729997
>Whedon
>Good
>Claremont
>Bad
Whatever you do; do NOT listen to this anon.
DC's universe/multiverse just is more interesting and fits together better. I prefer individual stories in Marvel, but as soon as more than a dozen different heroes/villains come together it becomes really offputting.
>>79723173
Fantastic. Don't believe what you hear. DC has always had at least 5 amazing books going at any given time and what more could you ask for? Not to mention Multiversity was god tier and I looved the callbacks to all the previous events, bringing them back into continuity for potential storytelling.
>>79723346
Is there a similar chart for DC?
>>79730557
I'm a DCfag and I honestly can't name five good ongoing right now. But I don't read everything they publish. I can think of...
>Grayson
>Omega Men
>Midnighter
>Sheriff of Babylon (but this is Vertigo so...?)
>>79730776
Martian Manhunter and Justice League 3001.
>>79730217
This is something that I've never thought of, but actually rings true once I think about it. Marvel's characters don't mesh well. At all. Mutants, Inhumans, the FF, the space races, then the characters in the OG Avengers...its just really nonsensical in a way DC isn't.
>>79730776
I think Snyder and Cappula's run on Batman is pretty good so far too.
>>79730776
Martian Manhunter
We are Robin
>>79730776
You couldn't name one more? You are full of shit. You totally could have.
Martian Manhunter
Justice League
JL 3001
DC because all of the great non-superhero comics they made in the silver & golden age
I like Marvel street level, x-men(pre Morrison), magic, and cosmic stuff. I like DC's obscure shit, vertigo shit, JL related characters, and most of all, Superman.
>>79730776
It really depends on how high you set the bar for god ongoing superhero comics, but the DC line as a whole has been pretty damn good since the New52, even if it came at the cost of their entire continuity.
You can't tell me the three JL books out right now aren't at the very least passable, of course comparing it to preNew52 JL books or Avengers. Same thing goes for most of the line, and there's standouts like the ones you mentioned, MM, JL3k, Batman.
>>79731076
Snyder can't write worth a shit, but I'll check out Martian Manhunter and Just league 3001.
>>79728312
>but the X-Men hold a very special place in my heart
And Marvel is making sure they won't recapture it
>>79721121
It's a tie.
Marvel for the 60's- 70's
DC 80's-90's
2000-2016 is like picking between a shit sandwich and a shit smoothie.
>>79731140
If you're down for some more straight up cape, JLA is pretty damn good, it sorta feels like a Authority story with JL characters and scale. I also thoroughly enjoy Cyborg, Swam Thing and Constantine, Cyborg feels pretty fresh and actually makes Cyborg looks pretty interesting, Swamp Thing is a straight up old school horror comic with great art and Constantine is a halfway point between classic Hellblazer and that neutered spell slinging shit we were getting earlier.
I read both DC and Marvel. Enjoy aspects of both/dislike some things of both. I also read Image, Valiant, Darkhorse, and pretty much anything else that has a good story, good characters, good art, etc.
Why does it always have to be company wars here?
>Golden Age
DC
>Silver Age
Marvel. No contest.
>Bronze Age - 80's
Marvel. Born Again, KLS, Claremont X-Men, Stern - Byrne Cap, Gruenwald Cap, Alpha Flight, Frank Miller Daredevil, Elektra: Assassin, Moonshadow, God Loves Man Kills, Conway Spidey
Marvel
>90's - 2016
I would say Marvel because it's more memorable. Yet, there's a handful amounts of shitty comics.
>>79722453
>>79722492
>>79723632
Same. Also the fact that the art is fucking gorgeous.
Esad Ribic is easily one of my favorite comic artists of all time.
Casual who mostly knows about comics through movies here. I'm considering stopping being a pleb, but at the same time I was wondering what keeps comics fresh for you people?
How do you read about the same characters for years upon years, death after revival following retcons without getting sick of it? What keeps you coming back?
>>79730118
you're an idiot.
one of the few runs Whedon has had was his X-Men run
>>79723943
>favorite character
Are you me?
>>79731764
>90s Marvel more memorable than 90s DC...
>>79732302
Because unlike the movies, comic books are sometimes given talented writers who manage to make a storyline/character actually interesting and compelling to read month to month.
