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This is some Squirrel Girl tier shit.
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This is some Squirrel Girl tier shit.
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le mungaaaah influence
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>>79680417
Actually, it's better drawn and written.
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>>79680417
Judging by the art style, I'll be surprised if she's not sucking Harley's and Ivy's futa cocks double barrel after two pages or so.
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>>79680417
Holy crap what an ape face. All she needs is black skin and hair and she'll look like an actual nigress
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>>79680745
Double barrel cock sucking is the best thing there is to do in a MMF threesome
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Glad I'm not that into cape comics because they're all starting to look like webcomics from tumblr hipsters
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>>79680821
What's even going on in this pic?
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>>79680788
Agreed. Too bad homophobia prevents this from being a thing more often.
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>>79680821
God forbid there's any variance in art style.
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>>79680828
homestuck expert
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>>79680821
That swastika looks a bit thin
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>>79680417
>tfw the whole "sexism in comics controversy" is just a fake crusade fabricated by bad artists who desperately wanted to work in comics
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>>79680866
>The Land of Milk and Swastikas
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>>79680879
Nazis like to keep in shape.

Except for Goering that fat fuck
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>>79680879
nazis all over the country have had to tighten their belts since WW2 ended

together, we can help them
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>>79680879
fat swastikas sound awful
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If this is for one panel it could be okay, but if the entire comic is small craniums and giant chines, well... yow.
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>>79680417
>mouth of a gouper

My dick.
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>>79680517
This but /co/ doesn't read comics.
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>>79680863
Shut up, Liefeld.
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>>79680985
This.
We read graphic literature.
/b/ plebs read comics.
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>>79680417
She looks like that negress who cucked Sanders at that rally.
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>>79680417
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST!

IT'S A HAT THAT TURN INTO A MASK NOT A STUPID HELMET THAT LOOKS LIKE A STUPID HAT!
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>>79680417
It's a deliberately exaggerated and cartoony rendering of an actual identifiable facial expression by someone who's clearly skilled, it's absolutely nothing like the new Squirrel Girl beside also having a vaguely hip tumblr webcomic aesthetic
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Strange how small her cranium is.
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>>79680517
Drawn, sure I'll give you that. Written? They're about the same.
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>>79681897
>happily accepts an invitation to meet alone with a mysterious man at the docks at night for no reason
you go girl
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How is this series right? I liked the first trade, with the whole AI Babs as the villain, but dropped it after the Grayson Rom-Com issue. Man that shit was cringeworthy.
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>>79681910
No Batgirl is far better with characters that are actually likeable and actual conflict.
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ITT: people who have never had to draw a comic book on a deadline and don't know that not every artist can draw every panel perfectly
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>>79680417
Cheap tumblr tier artwork, I would expect this more from Marvel
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>>79682024
1/10
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>>79681917
>mysterious BLACK man

>>79682013
Hi, Babs "Holy Grail" Tarr
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Batgirl is such cringeworthy shit because it actually tries to play the concept straight.

Meanwhile Gwenpool seems like it will actually work, because it's a parody of the hip teenage girl hero thing.
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>>79682145
>shilling some Harley Quinn ripoff
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>>79682145
>it's badly written on purpose
Fixed.
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>>79682196
Harley Quinn hasn't been fun in years.

Besides she really is mostly just Deadpool, if Deadpool were a teenage girl. Which isn't really that big of a difference.
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>>79682248
And Gwenpool is mostly just Waypool, if Waypool were a teenage girl. Your point?
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>>79682248
>Harley Quinn hasn't been fun in years.
Let me guess: because she doesn't pander to tumblr.
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>>79682145
More like because the writer and artist (artists, I guess) are actually good.
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>>79682272
>a webcomic hack and two japs
>good
For free or for a fee?
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>>79682257
>>79682286
Are you assholes actually shitting on Christopher Hastings?

He's already written some stuff for Marvel in the past which was all well received around here. Just because you started off with a webcomic, doesn't mean you're not talented enough to make it into real comics.
There are some examples, but this guy genuinely deserves his shot.
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>>79682286
Those are some good coherent arguments you've got there.
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>>79682319
>Just because you started off with a webcomic, doesn't mean you're not talented enough to make it into real comics.
No, only into Marlel or Imagay.
>this guy genuinely deserves his shot in the head
Fixed.
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>>79681201
Babs Tarr is not skilled and she's no better than Erica Henderson

She did that anime thing where she can't draw the bottom of her jaw so she squeezed her facial features to the top of her head without changing the perspective to compensate

>>79682013
How does a deadline keep from drawing a head in perspective correctly?
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>>79682487
Erica pls
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>>79680821
Probably because they're bringing in webcomic and tumblr creators.
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>>79682338
Someone is jealous.
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>>79682502
>implying Henderson would ever say her art is bad
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>>79682997
>she doesn't realize her art sucks
Poor girl or whatever the term is; these tumblrfags, you know....

>>79682986
Jealousy is very expensive, I save it for talented people.
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>>79681897
Woah, the dialogue are fucking cringeworthy.
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>>79680417
I don't mind this honestly, but it is getting dangerously close to "empowered female webcomic artist" tier.
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>>79680417
Can anyone here tell me the latest issue of captain america
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>>79680821
read this...
>>79682509

They know that in order for the industry to survive, they need to draw in more youthful demographics. And what do these kids give a shit about?

>muh tumblr
>muh empowered female characters
>muh diversity
>muh easy to digest art style
>muh quick and short dialogue
>muh references

I think we're well past the days of yore, lads
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>>79682268
Except Harley Quinn does pander to tumblr now.

I guess I can't argue with the sales numbers, but it's always rubbed me the wrong way how they turned the Joker's semi-tragic lackey into wacky girlpower Waypool.
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>>79683022
>Jealousy is very expensive, I save it for talented people.
This might be the stupidest attempt at wit I've read all day. It doesn't even make sense.
You sure you don't write a webcomic yourself?
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I don't read either, but this >>79682248 looks better than >>79681897
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>>79683223
>Harley Quinn does pander to tumblr now.
Does she? She's so scantily clad.
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Have people considered *not* reading Batgirl and Squirrel Girl? Pick up and talk about stuff that doesn't send them into a frothing rage?
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ITT simonefags
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>>79683391
>Have people considered *not* reading Batgirl and Squirrel Girl?

Only people with something resembling standards
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>>79680821
>you mess with the girl, you get the hitler.jpg
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>Batgirl was infected with the Zika virus at birth


It all makes sense now
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>>79683390
That's a woman embrassing her own sexuality, anon.
Tumblr loves comic book Harley, but hates the movie one.
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>>79683551
>tumblr
>loving anything DC
>ever
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>>79680417
Did she dislocate her jaw choking on Batwing's big black dick?
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>>79683612
It's true though. Especially when it comes to Injustice Harley.
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>>79683116
Really because it seems pretty basic to me.
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>>79680417
More like Bruce Timm shit.
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I love Babs Tarr's art, it was the original reason I picked up the new run to begin with, but I had to drop it a few issues back. The wedding issue was the last straw where they just brought Grayson in to shit on him.

The writing is just bad. Fletcher and Stewart do not flesh out their characters at all. There were how many issues devoted to Alysia getting married? They gave no reason for readers who jumped on with the new creative team to give a shit about her wedding or her fiance being in danger. Alysia pops up in a couple panels and we're told that her and Barbara are just the best of friends and so close, but we are never shown any reason why. Why should I care about the wedding of this character I know nothing about?

The "big reveal" of her co-worker at the college being involved in a villain's scheme was pointless. We hardly see Barbara do anything at the college or interact with this guy outside of the first issues of the run and now we're supposed to care that he's done something wrong? I'm sure most readers forgot who he was at that point.

The biggest irritant for me was the forced romance between Barbara and Luke Fox. They bump into each other a handful of times on a mission of Barbara's and suddenly they're in love and dating? When they kissed I was really confused because it came out of nowhere. There was no build up or demonstration of their chemistry. We're just told they are into each other now, deal with it.
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>>79683391
>implying anyone in this thread has read Batgirl
Why read it when you can stubbornly insist this book is tumblr.
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>>79680417
That's hideous.
When 90% of cartoon pornography has better art than official DC/Marvel shit, you know things are going really, really wrong.
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>>79683744
>how many issues devoted to the tranny getting married
One. It was a running subplot. Ut only one real issue devoted to it.
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>>79683612
>TFW posting all kinds of crap on my tumblr
>D&D-related stuff gets constant reblogs and likes
>The most I got from DC content is for Harley Quinn-related screencaps
Tumblr is sort of predictable.
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>>79683689
Retard of the year.
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>>79683796
>enormous jaw
>not Timm style
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>>79683795
>using tumblr for fandom crap and not just following artists you like
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>>79680417
I RECOGNIZE THAT CHIN
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>>79683787
I suppose you're right, but it really stuck out to me because it was the only consistent subplot I can remember. The run seems to have no plan, no overarching plot or theme. They start out with Barbara going to grad school and working on a project, but that gets dumped so fast. Then we just get random stories of a computer Babs, a cross dressing villain, Livewire, and tiger lady.
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>>79683822
>Following artists on tumblr
>Having to bear witness to every dumb little reblog or brain fart they have
Nah, I'll pass.
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>>79683940
Is there a setting on tumblr that just lets you see an artists work instead of their blogs and reblogs and links to other people's work?
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>>79683822
>following artists
Yeah, you definitely do seem like a follower rather than a doer.
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>>79683940
Very few of the artists I follow reblog anything other than art.

>>79683977
>posting screencaps of comics

Damn, you're doing so much. I'm impressed.
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>>79683612
this.

tumblr will constantly get up in arms with DC for so much as breathing, while Marvel gets praised up and down for doing the same shit. this is because Marvel has learned that tumblr can easily be distracted by women in colorful, but not skin revealing costumes, along with quick zingers that can be reblogged a hundred times over.
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>>79684272
I wish I still had the images that laid out just how much more diverse DC's line is and how they have a more diverse group of artists and writers working for them. It is really strange that Marvel gets this blind support.
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>>79681897
>including white gang bangers to not be called racist
kek this truly is USB
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>>79683822
>following an artist
>not just bookmarking their archive so you can see their actual art posts and ignore their shitposts
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>>79684602
>bookmarking their archive
>not just hacking your favorite artists and intercepting all of their art and pages before they get uploaded online or sent to their editors

Do you guys even like art? lmbo
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>>79684484
Come on man.
Not only is this Gotham, where if you're black there's a 90% chance you're related to Lucius Fox in some way, this is the gentrified hipster neighborhood in Gotham. It's more amazing the entire gang isn't white.

This posse had to bus in from outside.
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>>79684675
>if you're black there's a 90% chance you're related to Lucius Fox in some way
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What the fuck happened to Batgirl? Why is it about her becoming twitter famous and doing quirky things with other quirky tumblrinas.

Fucking A. I liked the way it was before.
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>>79684736
>liking Simone's batgirl
That's taking shitposting a little too far don't ya think?
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>>79684882
What didn't you like about it, senpai?
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>>79684896
A lot of things but I guess my major beef with it was the retarded edgy drama.
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>>79685007
I kind of liked it. I don't know why it got so much hate.

It was pretty enjoyable to read and the covers were absolutely gorgeous.
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>>79685065
I told you guys, OP is a simonefag.
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>>79684736
>this tumblr landwhale is not as good as the other tumblr landwhale
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>>79685074
I'm not OP, and I said that I liked simone's run in this post already >>79684736

nice detective skills bud
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>>79680821

what the fuck is that...is that milk?

shame we can't see her feet.

I might not like Nazi's but she's kinda cute that girl.
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>>79685065
> I don't know why it got so much hate.
Because it's horribly written SJW pandering propoganda of the highest order? Just because it had a house style artist that somehow makes it good?

I don't see how you can say that this book is bad because it's "tumblr" while simultaneously liking the most SJW tumblr pandering comic of the New 52.

>He did it for the Lulz!
>Barbara, I'm transgender
Gross to be honest family.
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>>79685105
Seo is the best.
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>>79680821
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>>79683472
This anon has it right. Clearly DC is just trying to increase the representation of microcephaly in their books so that they can get that sweet untapped market of retard Zika babies.
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>>79681917
Is this a prequel to STRAY BAT or something?
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>>79685193
>having a transgender woman makes it sjw propaganda
I don't see it as a pandering. And if the killer is an edgy 4chan autist, then yes I could see him saying "he did it for the lulz".

Those minor parts don't detract from the overall great story anyway. Is this literally all you got senpai?
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>>79683391
People in /co/ actually believe Batgirl and SG are good characters.
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>>79684736
That's not what the book is about at all.
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>>79684310
it's a shame but tumblr, hell most comic sites in general, doesn't care nearly as much for creators as they do for characters. which is nuts to me because those creators are the ones making the characters and writing them and drawing them.
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>>79685396
After Simone's run, yes that is what it's about.

There was an entire arc where she became twitter famous in fact. Black Canary got the aids too, now she's in a fucking rock band using the same trash art.
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>>79685424
>arc
It was half an issue.
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>>79680417

I do not understand why they changed. Before she looked stronger now very sickly..

Before it was a true heroine, now she looks like a girl, it's like being a teenager again .. as if 16 years back.

Without being a fan Pre-flashpoint, I prefer to Barbara as Oracle(I've heard a lot about it).. Better than this change ...
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>>79685452
look faggot. every fucking chapter has:

>at least one segment where she's on social media
>some retarded social event that I don't care about (e.g. her planning her friends gay wedding..)
>being obsessed with some boy
etc.

I'm sick of this shit. I'm sick of that black, computer programming, half head shaved tumblrina too. She should get paralyzed again to save her from this hell
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>>79680417
>Character targeted to and popular with teenage girls is being drawn in a more manga-esque style since that's appealing to that demographic.
Woah how awful
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>>79685529
>social media
That's shits pervasive in today's world retard.
>some social event
Normal people gonout you autistic piece of shit
>interacting with a boy
I know talking tonthe opposite sex is a scary concept to you but people do it
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>>79685678
I'm reading a CAPE comic. Why the FUCK would anyone anyone think that's a good idea to include in a CAPE comic. Fuck off, if I want to read some shitty teen romance book I'll do that.

I don't care what you guys think about Batgirl. I've always liked her character. This book is absolute garbage now. When the entire series consists of a teenage girl doing regular teenage girl shit with her tumblrina friends, it's gone down hill. She's not a regular teenage girl, she's batgirl.
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>>79683745
Which kind of leads back to why I wonder why they don't just ignore them and talk about stuff they like. Some just get off on being outraged that these versions of Batgirl and Squirrel Girl exist.
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>>79685801
Because I liked Batgirl before the new run took over. Therefore I have a right to complain about it on an anonymous forum even though it accomplishes nothing.
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>>79683744

I do not like the characters look .. little Burnside and ... JASON ... Batman Eternal made to believe that Barbara would come out with Jason and did not happen ..

And failed to pull me the idea of the mind. Damn you Batwing.
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>>79684310
I got you senpai. I post it on reddit/tumblr/twitter too every time I see someone say "DC is racist, sexist, not diverse enough!"
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>>79685774
Fuck you and stifling attitude about the genre.
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>>79685774
>I've always liked her character.
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>>79681917
She's a fucking superhero retard
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>>79685903
And fuck you for encouraging the destruction of a good character.

batgirl should have ended after Knightfall instead of continuing on with this nonsense.
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>>79680417
The next Style Burnside Victim STARFIRE:

https://twitter.com/jpalmiotti/status/690184602275680256/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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>>79685774
Liking Babsgirl means liking this. She's always been a less serious more "lucks into winning" cape that faces weaker threats.
That's why the only good Batgirl is Cass.
Now inb4 racists accuse me of yellow fever because that's the only way in their minds an asian female character can have fans.
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>>79686070
Less serious is perfectly fine. But she's an absolute joke in this book.

Cass is p good too.
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>>79681029
Do you think Bettefags hatted this all-new Batgirl?
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>>79685827
Batgirl is likable, but then I've never read many of her primary books, and the ones I have, I didn't enjoy as much as the recent run of Batwoman ones.

Batwoman has her head on straight. She does about as well as you could expect from someone who "isn't Batman". It's not really a gender or sex thing, it's just that "He's fucking Batman". Everyone like them is derivative of, and lesser than him as a whole.

There are Bat Family members and "tribute Capes" that follow his example who approach or even exceed him in some qualities, but generally speaking, he's the most well rounded and successful, besides being hyper competent. Physically he is also generally the peak of "beating ass old school" and just generally going all medieval on people. He's a big guy. A big, skilled guy will on balance, kick more ass than other equally skilled people. And Bruce is pretty fucking big.

But yeah, just to reiterate, Batwoman seems to have found a nice niche. She handles some of the crap that Bruce is too busy for, and has leads into stuff that's a little tougher for him, often. Batgirl seems like I dunno, kind of a piker compared to her, honestly. She's always going to be the kid sister or mission control. She can run around and clean up little Bat Family messes, but to me, the character and the way they write her are straight "Robin tier" material. She is not really up to "A-lister Rogue or Bat Threat" situations alone. She punches the henchmen and lackies of a-listers in the mouth, not the a-listers. On a good day, the Joker is too much for her.
On a bad day, she might get one over on him, but at his best, she's beneath him.
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>>79685774
>mfw reatrds have never read silver and bronze age comics that heavily focus on the characters social and love lives
Decompressed shitty long action sagas are new to cape comics. Read Batman or Detective not Batgirl
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>>79686107
>Less serious is perfectly fine.
Here's the thing. I agree that less serious superheroes are fine, but not when they don't have powers. Powers are a safety net that means that you can slum it a little. If you're bulletproof, then you can be a little more silly.

But the Bat Family needs to take shit seriously and be at the top of their game 100% of the time, or they'd die and fail. That's the basic premise of being a Bat-person.
So when the Batgirl book says "We need to move our hacking operation to a secure location so that the bad guys can't track us" and then said hacker goes to STARBUCKS, that's kind of fucked up.
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>>79686162
Social aspects and love lives are perfectly fine. When it's ENJOYABLE. None of the Batgirl supporting characters from the new run are likable and they're shoved down your throat 24/7. I like when characters interact. I like when it builds upon their personality. This is absolute shit.

Batman is a shit and I will not read his new 52 edge. I enjoyed the cute supe/bats pre 52 book because they had good chemistry and the social interaction was pleasant. See? here's the difference.
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http://batman-news.com/2016/02/05/batgirl-48-review/
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>>79686136
I'll check out Batwoman. I've read some of her stuff but I didn't really get into it. I'll give it another go.

I just really can't stand Batman comics. Is she Batman-esque character? He takes himself way too seriously.
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>>79686293

BAD, THIS IS:

http://batman-news.com/2016/02/05/batgirl-48-review/

I support the note, I'm user in batman news.
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>>79680517

While i love Babs Tarr's art, and the look of the Batgirl of Burnside, i have to say, the writing has been lacking this 2nd story arc.
I don't understand why Stewart and Fletcher thought it would be a good idea to have the 2nd arc be about Barbara's brain again, when that was the entire plot of the first arc.

The idea of the brain scan gone insane was a very interesting idea, but now that someone is "hacking" Barbara's brain erasing memories, it feels like they are trying way to hard to prove that this younger hipster Batgirl Barbara is still Oracle Barbara on the inside.

People who dig The Batgirl of Burnside want Batgirl adventures, not "OMG Barbara's brain!"

The current arc also puts Barbara into the role of "the victim" with everyone else around her needing to keep her on her feet, including newbie superhero Spoiler.

Seriously, i think Stewart is so disgruntled about the SJW backlash of the transvestite and the variant cover, that he gave up on writing decent fun Batgirl adventures, and is just doing it for the paycheck at this point.

Bryan Q. Miller did a better job at consistently writing a more simple but fun Batgirl comic in the old continuity with Stephanie Brown.
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>>79686063
As long as she isn't written as badly as Batgirl, they can have any artist they want.
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This type of character was done before, but a lot better, when Steph was Batgirl.
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>>79686944
>I don't understand why Stewart and Fletcher thought it would be a good idea to have the 2nd arc be about Barbara's brain again, when that was the entire plot of the first arc.
Probably because if they keep talking about how Babs is brilliant and how it's a bad idea to threaten her genius brain, people will forget they haven't actually written her as being particularly smart.
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>>79685871

The DC bombshells angers me a bit because the male designs are fucking amazing, and having them in a female-focused comic is a damn waste.
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>>79686994
Who was just a copy of babs as batgirl.
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>>79687241
Not really. Old Babs was always rather level-headed.
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>>79680828
Pussy Riot?
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>>79687380
>Always
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>>79687380
Only because that's going so far back that cell phone cameras and social media didn't exist.
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>>79686994

No.

>>79687380

Go read Batgirl Year One. Stephanie was Year One Barbara to the teeth. Same attitude. Same quirky humor. Stephanie was written was a Year One Babs clone way more than Burnside Babs is written was pre-FP Stephanie.
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>>79685424
How boring of taste do you have to have to hate anything that isn't the shit house style of bland Jim Lee clones?
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Not even near to Squirrel level of crap.
I like the BatGirl art.

Don, t be a jackass.
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>>79684640
Did you see that pokemon commercial during the superb owl?
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>>79687786
>I like the BatGirl art.
you like shit art

but then again this is the same board that worships mediocre draw fags because their weiners get hard at anything
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>>79682487
She's a beginner comic artist and, big surprise, comics take a long time to draw. Most comic artists cut corners in some way, and honestly, if you can still tell what's going on in the panels the comic is getting its job done. Your eyeballs scan the panels for half a second. It's not like Henderson where every panel has wonky mouths and caveman brows.

Have you ever drawn a single thing in your life, or even talked to an artist? Just curious.
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>>79690710
>this bitch just scribbled random shit on my whiteboard what the fuck
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Babs Tarr is one of the best artists to come out of the big 2 in awhile. i wish /co/ wouldn't talk about stuff they hate
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>>79690710
What's the issue with these panels besides sketchy linework? Everything looks fine to me. It gets the message across clearly. Are you pissy about the stylization?
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>>79680899
Whats the denizen?
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>>79691596
>She's a beginner comic artist
And she's also been drawing for several years

They have a month to finish like 20 pages, Jack Kirby was putting out around a hundred pages a month during the 60s and they still look significantly better than people with more time are able to shit out today

>Most comic artists cut corners in some way, and honestly, if you can still tell what's going on in the panels the comic is getting its job done.
Who needs standards when you can meet the bare minimum, truly wise words
Pfft visual storytelling, just look at a panel for a few seconds and pay more attention to the crappy dialogue!

> It's not like Henderson where every panel has wonky mouths and caveman brows.
Actually it's a lot like that
But the difference is that Babs is curvy so you fags are okay with it now

>>79691746
Got to love the "it's her style" excuse.

Please get some taste.
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>>79686122
your puns anger and confuse me
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>>79685871
All I'm getting from this image is that no one wants to read comics about muslims/blacks/gays/feminists/trannies/whatever.
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>>79692573
>every artist no matter the medium should be good at comics right away
>every artist is going to be as good as Jack Kirby

wew
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>>79692573
>They have a month to finish like 20 pages,
It's probably significantly less, or used to be given how editors had to have time to change things.
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>>79696491
It is less. Especially if your editor has major changes from pencils to inks, even worse if the writing changes.
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>>79686122
>Not muh Batgirl
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>>79688192
>superb owl
IT GETS FUNNIER EVERY TIME XD!!
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Is Batgirl good? or should I just stick to Prez and Grayson?
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