Well, shit...
>>79180408
>Rotten Tomatoes
They're all a bunch of paid off Disney shills, anon. This is the same site that only gave Man of Steel a 56%. They're clearly trying to push an anti-DC agenda.
>>79180455
Nice tinfoil hat buddy
I'll wait till I actually see it
>>79180455
>this is kind of shit is what /co/ actually believes
>>79180499
He's not wrong.
>audience score
>hasn't even aired yet
>>79180408
LMAOOOOO, I KNEW IT, I FUCKING KNEW IT THIS WAS GOING TO B SHIT WHEN I SAW THAT TRAILER.
It can't be possibly worse than Arrow.
>>79180582
>>79180455
>my content is not bad, they are the ones with shit taste
>>79180408
>Caring about Rotten Tomatoes.
>Being too much of a cuck to form your own opinions.
>>79180455
But Rotten Tomatoes is owned by Warner. Wouldn't it be the other way around?
>>79180455
>This is the same site that only gave Man of Steel a 56%.
You're right.
It deserved way less than that.
>>79180499
He is wrong about them being paid Disney shills, but RT is primarily filled with Roger Ebert drones that want to be the next big contrarian shit. Ebert was notoriously biased to television.
>>79180408
>Kingdom of the Crystal Skull still delivers the thrills and Harrison Ford's return in the title role is more than welcome.
>It's on the CW
It's shit. Doesn't matter if it's DC, Marvel, or some unrelated non-capeshit property.
It's cool if you enjoy their shows, I enjoy a lot of shitty things myself, but call it what it is:
The TV equivalent of fast food.
>>79180729
>cape movie
>fucking brilliant
I enjoy them well enough, but let's not pretend they're some sort of high art.
>>79180455
>This is the same site that only gave Man of Steel a 56%
They were being generous
>>79180455
Owned by Warner Bros. and they have The Flash sitting at 98%. So?
>rating a series after two episodes
when will you learn?
Idk, I could tell from the trailers that it is going to be a hot mess. The roster of characters alone is too much.
>>79180455
56%? Holy fuck, how did they give that awful flick this much.
I'm not that concerned. Capeshows almost always have a rough first few episodes. I wasn't expecting a masterpiece right out of the gate.
Were'nt you faggots complaining that Rotten Tomatoes gave Supergirl 100% at some point and saying the site is clearly bullshit? Now you're running to it to fulfill your confirmation bias?
>>79180408
who the fuck looks up reviews for tv shows?
just a marvel shill trying to kill the hype.
probably jelly because no one gave a fuck about Agent Carter and the 75 aniversary for Cap just because we had The Flash returning and a BADASS Justilice League Special
moving on, Legends of Tomorrow is already better than all the marvel shosw put together
>>79180987
RT is full of "progressives".
>>79181035
Brand loyalists, anon.
> overload cast of characters
So same problem with the X-Men movies
>Trusting Rotten Tomatoes opinion about anything.
>>79180455
>>79181418
Maybe we should say
>RT is a WB website
>but the critics work for Disney
>>79180704
Well it's better than TFA. I never thought I'd say this but Shia LaBeouf was far better in a far better son role.
>>79180499
have you ever seen a RT review or do you just look at the tomatometer and make up your mind from there?
AoU's section was fuckfest. I swear I've saw a review that was "This wasn't a good movie, but 5/5 for dialogue!"
>>79181412
Yes, this is bad if the product is not Disney.
>>79181418
>season 3
>>79180658
WHAT?! MY OPINIONS?! BUT THEY SUCK!!! I NEVER LISTEN TO MY OPINIONS!!!! I LET SOMEONE ELSE DO ALL MY DECISIONS FOR ME!!! WHY SOMEONE TOLD ME THE OTHER DAY TO KILL MYSELF AND I DID!!!!
... wait.
>>79180455
You all have no literal proof of Disney paying off critics. lets see some evidence, buster!
>>79180658
I'm proud of you, critics of Rotten Tomato.
I'm sure I've watched Top Gun nearly 10 times now, but it is indeed a shitty movie.
>>79180875
Flash didn't get good until the Captain Cold episode
I wouldn't worry too much about the pilot, of course they're not going to develop everyone right away. Is it for half a season or a whole one?
>>79181460
>if the product is not Disney
I was feeling it in Age of Ultron, Civil War's cast looks exhausting as well
>>79180408
Most pilots are always mediocre because they have to set-up so much stuff.
>>79180658
Top Gun IS shit though.
>>79180408
=(
I wanted more quality shows.
>>79180717
>The TV equivalent of fast food
What is Breaking Bad?
>>79181595
And The Wire. All overrated normie shit.
>>79181595
>>79181608
Oh no! Don't say that! These are sacred cows! Even though there are many animes ten times better than Breaking Bad, but we can't say that, because we're just weebs, right?
>>79181652
Bakemonogatari is better than Breaking Bad
>>79181663
Fucking Dragon Ball is better
>>79181663
>>79181680
Fucking weebs
>>79181702
Go back to pound sign posting on Twitter and drinking coffee, normie. What pop music are you listening to right now? You have a 9-5 wagecuck job too?
>>79180408
Probably good then.
Considering how shit The Flash is
>>79181702
Don't take the bait. All you had to do is google the anime he was talking about to see that he's clearly just being a ruseman.
>>79181652
>Even though there are many animes ten times better than Breaking Bad, but we can't say that, because we're just weebs, right?
Yes.
Yes you are.
>pluralizing the word anime
I bet your preferred subtitles have honorifics, too.
>>79181474
no one is buying that shit.
you can eat sooo much shit that at some point it will taste good.
the same goes for Agents of shield
>>79181737
This.
>The Monogatari series revolves around Koyomi Araragi, a third-year high school student
I got this far into the description and stopped reading.
>>79180408
>>79180717
>The TV equivalent of fast food.
Ash vs. Evil Dead?Come on, horrorfags. I need your tears. Your icons Campbell and Raimi are shit.
Oh, critics are doing their job for once and saying a mediocre show is just mediocre.
Good. It's fucking sickening to see all those positive reviews for subpar shows and movies.
>>79182062
>this time they are doing their job because i have some irrational hatred for a show i haven't watched.
>>79181919
You're picking on the wrong crowd, because most horrorfags revel in the fact that the thing they like is normally shit. It's widely accepted that movies in the genre are rarely very artistic achievements. They embrace tropes, cliches, and general cheesiness, enjoying shitty and campy horror flicks almost as much as legitimately scary/well made films.
All of the things that make Ash vs. Evil Dead a shitty show are also the things that people love about it.
The Strain is a shitty show, and that's what what makes it so fucking great. It's so fucking dumb that it's brilliant, and it's a ton of fucking fun to watch that trainwreck unfold.
Etc., etc.
>>79182086
Speak for yourself.
I couldn't care less for horror movies not being artistic achievements, but horrorfags are legit scum for letting their genre (which in my opinion has unrealized potential) to go down the drain with cheesy, godawful stuff like Evil Dead, Nightmare on Elm Street or Friday the 13th.
The worst thing, they celebrate that kind of shit instead of admitting that it's what is killing their genre.
Ash vs. Evil Dead (or everything Evil Dead-related) and The Strain are just unwatchable idiotic garbage and people who watch and enjoy it are contributing to the genre's further downfall.
>legitimately scary/well made films.
No such thing.
>>79182078
Yes, kid. Capeshit shows are generally mediocre and definitely don't deserve 90+ percent scores on various sites.
Deal with it.
most reviews i see praise the direction of the time travelling storylines, but the problem is that there are too many characters fighting for screentime and meaningful storytelling.
so basically the same problem with any superhero team, be it in movies, tv shows or comics. especially the fucking comics good lord.
>>79182173
So how am I wrong for saying that picking on horrorfags is fucking dumb because they simply don't give a fuck?
You're the one that comes across as a butt hurt faggot, especially because you're trying to derail a thread with your hatred of a genre that's completely unrelated to the discussion at hand. It's not like horror fags came into this Legends of Tommorow thread saying "It's shit, watch OUR SHOWS instead! They're SOOOO much better."
Especially since it's clear from your
>No such thing
statement that you're the one that's being ignorant and bitter that people like something that you don't. Fanboys of anything suck, but faggots like you are the true scum of the earth.
>>79182173
>go down the drain with cheesy, godawful stuff like Evil Dead, Nightmare on Elm Street or Friday the 13th.
>I haven't watched a horror movie since the 80's
I know this is a bait thread, but you think that those series accurately represent the problems that plague modern horror you're an out of touch idiot.
>>79180658
The only good thing about Top Gun is Kenny Loggins and you know it
also
>METACRTIC? WHAT CRITICS KNOW ANYWAY?! MY OPINIONS ARE WAY MORE VALID THAN THAT!
>>79182358
Do you even own a fedora?
>all these people accusing RT of being shills
You do realize that RT doesn't actually review anything, right?
>>79182358
Don't forget Tom Cruise! He's such a loveable asshole, and one of my favorite "generic actorman" actors.
>>79181418
Yeah, but AoS is good.
Reading the reviews, the main complaint I'm seeing is that the show has no definable lead like the Avengers have Iron Man and Captain America, X-Men has Wolverine and Guardians of the Galaxy has Star-Lord. The more conventional leader type falls upon the Atom, but he's also bland.
If you ask me, that is easily fixed by giving focus to Captain Cold and White Canary, which seems to be plan anyway.
>>79182173
>legitimately scary/well made films.
>No such thing.
STOP THE PRESSES. THIS MAN IS REALLY, REALLY TOUGH! SOMEONE GIVE HIM A MEDAL FOR BEING SO BRAVE!
I miss Siskle and Ebert.
I miss when critics had known names.
>>79182446
>Roger Ebert reviews are still a thing through his website
It feels wrong
>>79182492
I know.
It's like . . . Zombie Reviews.
>>79182173
>I couldn't care less for horror movies not being artistic achievements, but horrorfags are legit scum for letting their genre (which in my opinion has unrealized potential) to go down the drain with cheesy, godawful stuff like Evil Dead, Nightmare on Elm Street or Friday the 13th.
What is American Horror Story?
>>79182446
>Missing the "fun for the whole family 10/10" duo
Ebert made a legit difference in movie critics industry, and was a nice guy overall, but his opinions were shit
>Did not liked Pulp Fiction because it was too violent
>Gave Jurassic Park low score because it may scary children away
>Did not liked Clockwork Orange because he got offended by it
>Gave 'Brazil" two stars because he don't get it
The complaints I'm seeing are
>Too many characters wrestling for the spotlight.
>No defineable lead character that anchors the rest.
>Vandal Savage is bland.
>Episodes give way too much focus to "this is a once-in-a-lifetime chance to catch Savage" when it's a foregone conclusion that he'll only be caught in the season finale.
>>79182559
>American Horror Story
Merely a consequence of a genre being shit since the 80s?
>>79182568
Don't forget
>didn't like Weekend with Bernie
At least he hated I Spit On Your Grave, even if for wrong reasons.
>>79182573
>Vandal Savage is bland.
So, in other words no improvement from his appearance on Flash/Arrow.
How do you take a bastard who's so fun to hate, and make him bland? Justice League: Doom was a shit movie, and even there he was the best thing about it.
>>79182568
I disagree with many of his opinions, but I agree more than disagree.
And that's fine.
He articulated them pretty well, for the most part.
>>79182358
The beach volleyball scene alone gave Top Gun 5 stars
>>79182624
They should have brought Dean Cain back
>>79182633
I don't know, "this film is so vile it disgusts me" kind of reviews are not articulating something well. It's trying to make people mistake verbose for profound and that's coming from someone who agrees that some of those movies are shit.
>>79181663
bakemono is the best monogatari.
>>79182589
Weekend with Bernie is a cheesy 80's flick, it's comprehensible high profile critics bash on it, just like Evil Dead or Pork's movies. However anything with blood make Ebert take out 2 stars or more because NOT FUN FOR THE FAMILY
>>79182624
I haven't seen that show yet, but from what I've seen/read of Savage is that the key to him is in multiple parts.
At his core, he's still a goddamn caveman. Savage, brutish, and direct. But he has a facade of elegance that can ensnare the unwary.
He is also exceedingly patient. If things don't work this time, he's in no rush. He can scrap a plan and start anew. Not the first time he built himself up from nothing.
And he just doesn't give a fuck about things that he views as inconsequential -- which is a lot of things.
He could legitimately do Dragon Ball Z abridged' "Heroic Speeches" game and it wouldn't be too far out of character for him.
>>79182621
Whatever are you trying to say
>>79182662
Hence "For the most part"
>>79182693
The problem is he's not even a caveman on the shows since they combined him with Hawkman and Hawkgirl's priest nemesis who's obsessed with them.
I hope he gets better but it's been a letdown so far especially since the actor himself has the look down pretty well.
Can we use other sources then
Don't pilots tend to suck in comparison to the rest of the series? I'd give it a few episodes before making a final judgement on a show
>>79180658
It's a shame Tony Scott killed himself. He could've made a GOAT capeshit movie.His style was perfect for them.
Someone explain to me why they thought it would be a good idea to split the pilot over the course of two weeks.
>4channers are literally incapable coming up with their own opinions on things
>>79183067
They have a lot to cover for one hour? splitting the pilot in 2 episodes is quite common.
>>79182568
At least he gives well written and insightful reasons as to why he did or didn't like something. He thought Watchmen was some kind of masterpiece too.
>>79183090
Right, but why split it over two weeks is my question. Why not a 2 hour series premiere?
WHY it's a 2 parter isn't in question, why it's split over 2 weeks is.
>>79181720
Never show your full power level dude
You went full r9k
You never go full r9k
>>79182813
>The problem is he's not even a caveman on the shows since they combined him with Hawkman and Hawkgirl's priest nemesis who's obsessed with them.
WHY?!
>>79183666
To be fair we don't know that he was born there. He might have already been ancient and showed up offering his services as a priest and sage.
>>79180408
probably the same reviewers that said the same shit about AoU but gave it a fresh review because it's only okay when Marvel does it
well,things do not look good for BvS even if it turns out to be good
>Reviews Counted: 16
>Fresh: 8
>Rotten: 8
>>79181418
But AoS is good???
>>79180455
>56%
How? Fucking how?
>>79180674
The fuck does that even prove? Even if it is just fake shit you make up.
>>79183110
I think CW is very limited in the amount of time they get to air original shows.
>>79181608
>capeshit is good
>the wire isn't
I pity you, anon
>>79180408
>they actually trust rotten tomatoes
>>79180408
>anons actually thought a show thats headlined by Routh's we-have-a-budget-for-two-lazer-beams-then-you-get-knocked-out Iron Man lite, yuck mouth Hawkgirl and 6 more people that can't act would be good
I'm blown away that any of you praise Miller's Captain Cold. The man is a joke.
>>79185176
It's just typical 4chan contrarianism
>>79184704
It's an aggregate site, not an actual critic. All that means is that fifty-six percent of all "critics" said it was okay.
RT is junk; I don't really care what Muffy Toulouse of DogSweaters.com thinks.
>Rotten Tomatoes for TV shows
lol, it's a movie site you dumbass
>>79180408
>crowded
it's not like most of those characters had almost 4 seasons worth of development or anything
1. Who goes to rotten tomatoes for TV shows?
2. Who goes to rotten tomatoes for well made reviews? Fuck any site that'd give Halloween a new perfect score, but give all the sequels <20% reviews.
People were actually excited for Legends of Shit? Of course it was going to be terrible.
>>79182985
I kinda like IMDB
Rotten Tomatoes scores always seem like too perfect of a score or too harsh of a score.
IMDB doesn't seem to have that extreme of a margin.
>>79186340
IMDB is average from 1 to 10 scale scores, while RT is based on how many positive reviews thing has got.
So theoretically RT doesn't differentiate with movie that gets only 10/10 reviews and move that only has 7/10 reviews. They are both 100% positive. (assuming 5/10 is the divider between positive and negative).
At least that was it last time I checked, dunno now.
>>79180455
I legit don't know if this is just bait since it seems like people actually believe MoS is nothing short of a masterpiece and any criticism is either butthurt marvelfags or an anti DC conspiracy.
You don't need to give too much weight to RT scores, but 56% sounds like a fair score.
>>79187536
Yea, I think a lot of people forget about that. There are a lot of bad movies I might have still said I enjoyed coming out of. Really anything over a 5/10 is still an enjoyment.
>>79180408
From what I'm seeing, the reaction is divisive. Either you're gonna love it or hate it, kinda like Gotham.
Or it could be a case where the shows still struggling to find its footing. The critics have only seen two episodes after all. It's rare that pilots manage to deliver anything really spectacular, we got lucky with Flash.
But ultimately, we're just gonna have to wait and see.
>>79180455
MoS got a 56% because it was shit, you're fucking dumb and lucky it didn't get any worse.
>>79187774
even flash's pilot wasn't all that great, at least not compared to later episodes.
i think LoT will grow into itself. even the trailers seem to only show off footage from the two-parter pilot, so there's a lot to be seen.
Were people legitimately excited for this? I watch Flash every week religiously and even I wasn't excited for this
It's fucking a bunch of B and C-listers fighting in a universe that is completely unrelated to everything else. The actors aren't even that great. It was bound to be CGI-heavy just because of the premise and just how good could that be coming from the fucking CW? Even Flash's CGI is wonky at times and it uses it pretty sparingly outside of a lot of blur and the running segments.
>>79187945
would you fuck off already guy from the last thread
>>79188098
I just got back from work like a couple of minutes ago
>>79187945
I think everyone's holding their breath because they like the individual pieces but they're waiting to see if it'll all mesh together.
How long till premiere?
>>79180455
For the 10000000th time. RT doesn't review movies. They simply aggregate reviews from critics on the internet.
Also RT is owned by Warner Bros.
>>79182589
I Spit On Your Grave, thats a good film though, unless you're talking about the remake
>>79180987
Im sure those exact people are in this thread.
>>79185279
I'd like to see them do it in real life too
The buildings on fire, every body out....wait, kid where are you going
Im going inside, I don't do that normies shit, fucking normies.
>>79185108
Rotten Tomatoes is owned by Flixster, which is part of Warner Bros., which is a Time Warner subsidiary.
It's true that literally every company games the review system there with botnets tho; look up anything that hasn't come out yet and they've usually got user reviews months or even years in advance. The ones for Man of Steel giving it 5 stars and a whole lot of praise were up a year before release, for example.
The reason they do that is because people take those user numbers seriously, but in actuality they're just mean averages of user submitted reviews. So if you post 10,000 positive reviews ahead of release, even when the first weekend's bitching begins your score doesn't sink (as rapidly as it otherwise would). It takes a really shitty production to make the user review scores sink rapidly, or a really cheap production that can't afford the extra bots.
Of course, this does all kind of sideline the use of RT as it was intended to be used, but since none of it matters anyway it's all fine.
>>79185237
Have you not been coming here long? We had like 2 years of Rightclops threads, even though his secondary mutant power is being wrong.
>>79185176
It's like you didn't even read the reply string
>>79189055
People do that all the time. "Building's on fire, get the fuck out", "nah I've got shit to do, it's cold out there, I'll go in a minute, I can't even see any flames".
You tell them that's not how fire works or why you evacuate, and they go turn the fire alarm off. Guy I lived with years ago told me about a week after the event that he'd taken the batteries out of the monoxide alarm because it kept going off, but no matter how long I explained it to him, he couldn't understand what was wrong with that. Didn't even open the window. Not a dumbass in most respects, just incapable of understanding things that he wasn't specifically trained or interested in.
>join Legends of Tomorrow thread about two weeks back
>say "I swear this isn't b8, but does this look like shit to anyone else?" after seeing how shit the trailer looked
>7 replies calling it b8 and calling me a Marvel drone
You guys still think I was b8ing?
>>79189165
In an apartment building, if there is fire in the hallways, it might be safer to stay in your apartment and keep the door closed.
Still stupid to take off one's own firealarm.
>>79189248
If you said it's not a bait then it surely was a bait.
