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>Rebels Mid-Season Trailer
https://youtu.be/LJyxPDEvo9U

>New Rebels Clip: (Princess Leia CONFIRMED, New Episode Airs January 20th)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmPBFBjNHVE

>Upcoming Releases:
http://www.swbooks.net/updates/release-2016.htm

>Star Wars Canon Guide:
http://imgur.com/a/wnoIs

>Download links: (Books, Comics, Rebels, Films, etc)
http://pastebin.com/nWsKtSya

>Newest Rebels Recon Episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JrVry8kgyw

>The Clone Wars Legacy Content:
http://www.starwars.com/tv-shows/the-clone-wars-legacy
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Old thread
>>79109404
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That AT-AT vs AT-TE was the best thing to come out of Rebels so far.
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Will Disney actually have the stones to kill off such a beloved character?
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>>79124730
Forget Disney, what about her daddy Filoni?
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>>79124730
they killed Han, they could kill this literally who
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>>79124730
>Will Disney actually have the stones to kill off such a beloved character?
This is Disney man, they're known for killing of beloved characters and making children cry. Don't you remember Bambie's mom and Mufasa?
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>>79124730
The question is: will Filoni be strong enough to kill the waifu of the decade... and his true love?
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>>79124730
>>79124759
If anything, they'll kill her off so he could have her all to himself
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>>79124798
>two characters who died within a half-hour of being introduced
>beloved
Those scenes were sad because of the effects they had on Bambi and Simba.
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>>79124767
>Han
>Dead
Yeah, sure. And when Chewie suddenly vanishes from the movie after shooting Kylo Ren all he did was run to the Falcon, warm it up, and change all the preset channels on the radio Han never let him touch.

Episode IX will have a darkest hour moment when Leia slips away to a dark room with Han's body suspended in bacta ever since Chewie saved him and she brings Han out in an homage to the carbonite scene in Return. Now light their darkest hour, smuggler man. Finish the fight and bring your sonny boy home.
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>>79124767
It's one thing to kill off a character in a PG-13 movie, it's another to kill off a character that kids love in a show aimed for young audiences.
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Reposting just for that one anon who needs his MSW fix

>All you people claiming Ahsoka dies and all the Rebels cast too are so completely wrong. I'm from MSW and just back from a highly dangerous infiltration mission at Lucasfilm where I interrogated Dave Filoni's hat for secrets. THIS is the 100% accurate Rebels endgame. Spoilers ahead, so BEWARE!

>The very last episode is a Weisman inspired time skip to right before the events of ANH. The scene opens on Coruscant during Empire Day celebrations when something very strange happens during the parade...

>These events provide a timely distraction, tying up Imperial Forces over the capital so Rogue One can successfully steal the Death Star plans. Raw test footage below:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO9rJtNtmqc [Embed]

>Known facts:
>*The Ghost is obviously disguised as a parade float
>*Zeb is riding atop the float dressed in what is basically the Slave Leia outfit. Disney doesn't care as long as it's a dude wearing it.
>*Kallus is confirmed to survive the show only to be fragged by his own troops at the Battle of Endor
>*Chopper absconds with the Betty Droid fluffer serving in Sheev's personal harem, current whereabouts unknown
>*Twenty year old Ezra rides atop the revealed Ghost, tells Hera to drive him closer to the marching AT-ATs so he can stab them with his sword

>Remember this is an MSW exclusive! MSW: Correct 100% of the time 78% of the time!
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>>79124730
She'll die, Rex, Wolf, and Gregor will die, Kanan will die, Ezra will die, Sabine will go into hiding, Chopper will live, Zeb will die.
The whole cast will be killed off in the finale
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>>79124730
They will kill her off. They better kill her off!
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>>79124833
Mufasa was a loved character. You need to understand Disney will kill the ones you love, they have no qualms about that. Saying 'hur dur its Disney, they're kiddie shit' is false. They will kill the ones you love and will kill beloved characters, like they've done in the past.
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>>79124857
They might but I would be surprised if they did anything overt. They'll show Vader's shadow striking down her shadow as Ezra freaks out, or she'll fall off a "cliff" like the Grand Inquisitor.

Something emotional but not "graphic" (very relative when talking about the kinds of kids who like her).

Honestly though it's her connection to the kids that make her death unlikely. Seems far more probable that she's at the brink of death when Rex sacrifices himself to save her, something like that. All the emotional impact without Filoni actually having to kill his waifu.
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>>79124966
What about Hera?
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>>79124983
>Mufasa was a loved character.
Mufasa died as a necessity for the plot within the story he appeared. Same with Bambi's mother.
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Vader in this time, to me, is a pretty unrepentant person. He's aware of the guilt, but you have to remember that Anakin doesn't believe he did anything wrong, he believes everyone else betrayed him," Filoni explained. "Padme's death is a horrific side effect to what went down. I think he does feel responsibility there, because the Emperor made him believe it's his fault. But at the end of the day, as long as it's serving to consume him in anger and hate, and throw that out in the world, then I think it all works."

That's not the story he hopes to tell in Rebels, however.

"The story I want to tell is that there is this apprentice, the apprentice of Anakin Skywalker," he said referring to Ahsoka Tano. "'Anakin Skywalker taught her, and I need to destroy the memory of Anakin Skywalker' - that would be Vader's take on it. He doesn't want anyone to remember the good person that Anakin was, because 'that name no longer means anything to me.' That's where he's at." Don't expect any redeeming moment for Darth Vader if and when he and Ahsoka finally come face-to-face, though. "No one is going to turn Vader, except Luke. And even then, it almost doesn't happen. It's a tragic story at the end of the day, Darth Vader." - Filoni
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>>79124983
How the fuck was he loved? He was in the movie for a grand fucking total of twenty minutes.

It's like saying 'Wow I can't believe they had the guts to kill off that TR-8R guy!"
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>>79124981
Disney/Lucasfilm ordering the death of their kid tested and approved strong female character? I don't think so.
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>>79124767
>literally who
Ahsoka is more important to the overall saga than Han Solo, mate. She's Darth Vader's freakin' apprentice.
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>>79125054
I'm a bit saddened that most of the kids watching TFA probably didn't even know who Han was. He was just some nice old guy who showed up and got stabbed.
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>>79124992
the whole cast and Hera
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Wait there are seriously people who think Ahsoka isn't going to die? Seriously? Are you out of your minds? What the fuck do you think this is all going to lead up to?
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Is KOTOR 2 canon now
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>>79125081
Han is to the kids of today what Kenobi was the first viewers of ANH. A nice guy we knew who did some cool stuff, said some cool stuff and then got stabbed

It's like pottery.
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How likely are we to get an Ahsoka Tano comic run about what she did in between the end of The Clone Wars season five and Rebels?
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Malachor
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>>79125106
Nope.

>>79125089
Some people have theorized Ahsoka/Ezra/Kanan surviving and meeting Luke, but that would be stupid and honestly a much worse fate, because of what we know happens to Luke's Jedi.

But yeah, all signs are pointing towards some Vader slaughter incoming.
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>>79125106
"parts of it" pablo hidalgo
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>>79125127
Han Solo's death is way more tragic though, even if you didn't know him beforehand. Obi-Wan Kenobi's death seemed a lot more planned and ambiguous, and some first-time viewers didn't even realize he actually died at first.
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>>79125081
>He was just some nice old guy who showed up and got stabbed

To be honest, if you DON'T know who han is, his death scene is a lot more gutwrenching, because in TFA, he really, really is a NICE GUY.
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>>79125089
They're Ahsokafags, you can't reason with those waifu loving idiots. Her fate is for all to see, but they don't want to see it and are pretending it won't happen.
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>>79125134
Not until Filoni himself is ready. He knows what she did, he told Ashley and Dee Bradley what their characters were up to, but he won't share a damn thing with us.
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>>79125192
Oh good grief, the thought that kids will watch the OT and wonder why Han was such an "edgy jerk and tryhard" is almost too much.
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>>79125196
Ahsokafag here. She will die.
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>>79125089
>What the fuck do you think this is all going to lead up to?
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Anybody got the Darth Filoni story?

>>79125252
>Why is he so misogynistic to Leia!
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>>79125089
Some idiot is going to scream about waifufags in response to...oh, look, already happened.

The truth of the matter is everyone here expects her to die. What we would like and hope to see, instead, is some creativity in the fates of the characters. "Vader just ganks everyone" is very boring. Have Kalus get a frag, have someone sacrifice themselves for the team, have someone get shipped to Palpatine in person, hell, even have someone survive.

The point is more: Be nasty and creative, Darth Filoni.
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>>79125196
That's cute. You sound like the anons who swore she had to die in TCWs because she didn't show up in Episode III and there is no way Sidious wouldn't have targeted her in Order 66. She's dead and anyone who thinks she's Fulcrum is just an Ahsokafag who can't accept reality.

Your tears are as delicious now as they were then and as they will be when Filoni starts his new show set in the Sequel Era that has Ahsoka show up as Old Master Tano to advise a new generation of scrappy young heroes with the Force.
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>>79125332
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>>79125081
I dunno, in the theater only children cheered when the MF and Han appeared. They also clapped in the end.
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>>79125348
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>>79125332
...I hate to say it but holy fuck is this comic shit.
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>>79125371
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>>79125303
>The truth of the matter is everyone here expects her to die. What we would like and hope to see, instead, is some creativity in the fates of the characters.
Uh, the expected thing would be for her to live. Ahsoka dying would be a major step up
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>>79125306
>She's dead and anyone who thinks she's Fulcrum is just an Ahsokafag who can't accept reality.
Everyone knew Fulcrum was Ahsoka, even me. Quit being the retard that doesn't understand what foreshadowing is. At this point it's becoming pathetic, and I like Ahsoka.
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>>79125389
typical disney shill opinion
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>>79125359
There is hope for the children.
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>>79125391
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>>79125089
The moment where Ahsoka is saved by a newly resurrected Boba Fett armed with the Infinity Gauntlet and assisted by Sora and Cloud Strife
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>>79125415
>Everyone knew Fulcrum was Ahsoka
There were anons who claimed Fulcrum was Padme.

Fucking PADME.

Why? Because Leia in the OT said she remembered her mother so obviously Bail and Yoda faked Padme's death. Didn't matter that the actual lines included Leia's real mom dying when she was very young.

That was just one of the Fulcrum theories. There was no consensus. Even now we have anons who somehow don't know it was already revealed coming up with theories. An anon a few threads ago said it was Darth Maul.
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>>79125418
Wait, you mean this isn't Marvel's run?
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>>79125458
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anyone want this again

uploaded pics from it a few threads back
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>>79125475
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>>79125415
>Everyone knew Fulcrum was Ahsoka
There were people who didn't
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>>79125496
imgur ig
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>>79125496
Sure, it's cool to look at concept art.
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>>79125504
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>>79125507
No, there were people in denial.
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>>79125524
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>>79125519
*it
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>>79125507
I didn't. Does that makes me stupid?
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>>79125507
So many people were swearing it was Mon Mothma. Or Leia.

Theories that it was Ahsoka included the markings on the crate (which didn't match Ahsoka's old markings but do match her new ones), theories that it wasn't include Fulcrum's hood being unable to account for Ahsoka's horns. But obviously holograms can be faked, right? But why fake a hologram with a hood pulled over the face? Because it's part of the fake out! But Sidious didn't even bother with that level of shenanigans!

The debates consumed our threads at times.
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>>79125574
>Or Leia
Wouldn't she be like 9 or something?
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>>79125574
i herd idiots say it was Starkiller baiting rebels.
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>>79125607
no
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>>79125472
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>>79125607
She's showing up in Rebels, check the link.
>>79125613
Oh hell yeah, a lot of the "theories" were shits and giggles. I remember posting some but others claiming Fulcrum was Sheev or Mara Jade, stuff like that.
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>>79125295
Well that was fast
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>>79125295
she didn't fight so good
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>>79125613
Really? Are you more of a Collie or German Sheppard man?
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>>79125607
Leia is Ezra's age.
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>>79125715
i feel like this is bull shit
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Reminder that the real Ahoska died before Episode III.

Fulcrum Ahsoka is actually a Guri-class combat sex droid commissioned by Sheev to fuck with the Rebels and Vader
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>>79125723
It's true, they were both born the year the Empire was founded. Rebels is about four or five years before A New Hope.
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>>79125723
She actually looks older >>79125641
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>>79125723
Ezra was born on Empire Day, which is when Palpatine declares the Empire a thing in ROTS.
Luke and Leia are born a couple days later.
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>>79125723
>~5 years before ANH
>~15 years after RoTS
>Luke and Leia were born in RoTS
>not doing the math
Wat
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>>79125715
yet she comes of much older...
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>>79125768
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>>79125779
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>>79125475
Vader defeated like a bitch? holy crap this is bad
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>>79125793
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>>79125641
I wonder what Luke would look like in the Rebels art style/time period. I don't ever want to see him in the show, but it'd be cool to see.
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>>79125797
>Vader defeated

Holy crap! are there really this many autists on the internets?
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>>79125768
Leia eats her ruica.
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>>79125808
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>>79125840
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>>79125859
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>>79125824
Vader can't be defeated so easily anon. Isn't he supposed to be the most pwerful sith?
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>>79125859
was it rape?
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>>79125859
pedo-palp knows the truth.
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>>79125732
DELETE THIS
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>>79125879
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>>79125859
>he knows she's Vader's kid.
>fucking with Vader the whole time
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http://imgur.com/a/zUA19

part 1 of TFA art
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>>79125927
perfectly in character for palpatine, keeps a potential replacement or tool in hands reach
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>>79125881
That's not even the issue with this scene. It's that he can somehow effortlessly cut them up early on and 'somehow' has problems with the last handful. That's the pure, undiluted bullshit of prequel-era Darkhorse. This isn't a good representation of how the company did Vader, this is among the SHITTIEST art from the company and it exemplifies the really bad crap a la Nomi Sunrider.
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>>79125973
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http://imgur.com/a/s0jkR

Part 2
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>>79126024
we may need a draw request for bueno-palpatine amalgam
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>>79126032
>this wasn't in the movie
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>>79125976
>dougs art shit
>vader is challenged = horrible plot hole

Holy fuck could you be anymore a shill. I'm actually red in the face from embarrassment for you.

1/10 for making me reply
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>>79125288
>>Why is he so misogynistic to Leia!

I have actually seen this. I saw someone on Twitter calling Empire Strikes Back the worst of the original trilogy because of the way Han makes advances on Leia against her will.
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>>79125950
>Darth Talon could have been a villian but they removed her from the story.
JUST.
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>>79126032
>>79125950
Proof JJ is a hack for rejecting this.
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>>79126101
She just was a stand-in very early on before they decided on a villain.
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>>79125903
Feelings this wrong can't be right but I love them.
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http://imgur.com/a/mx4sy

Part 3
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>>79126122
>mfw no Darth Talon sex scenes in TFA.
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>>79126105
he had Disney execs breathing down his neck desu
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>>79124588
>AT-ATeam
We will never have a series or comic called Star Wars: Clones that deals with ex-Clone Troopers living as soldiers of fortune, hired to save various worlds and people from the naughty Stormtroopers of the Empire.
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>>79124759
>Implying Filoni didn't use his Disney dollars to make an Ahsoka sex android
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Part 4

http://imgur.com/a/Rwusl
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>>79126207
Anything is possible, anon. I didn't think we'd ever get a canon story set between Episodes I and II and I was proven wrong.
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>>79126220
>implying that post implied anything of the kind

We already know Dave misappropriated funds from Rebels in the attempt to make his waifu real. Why do you think Maz wound up as CGI, the most impractical of effects JJ swore he'd never use? Because Dave stole the animatronic puppet body they'd originally made, then crammed a bunch of concept arts he turned into Inquisitors under his cowboy hat.
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http://imgur.com/a/GNSQe

Part 5
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>>79126105
>Rey destroying a Star Destroyer with a Lightsaber would be good
I know we all want cool shit but that idea would haven been fucking retarded
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>>79126320
I actually meant it for >>79124814

I'm really tired
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Reminder
Ezra kills Ahsoka and becomes Old Master's apprentice
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>>79126360
No biggie, I was just looking for an excuse to post a lame joke about why Maz was CG. The thought of Dave painting Maz orange and is making salty love to it right this moment is actually quite horrific.
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>>79126366
Reminder
Ezra will be unable to control his foray into the Dark Side and it will end up killing Maul
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>>79126438
That sounded poetic but made no sense
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>>79126438

Reminder that you're full of it.

Ahsoka actually offers herself to Maul body and soul in order to save Ezra. All ends in tears as Maul breaks down and admits that space legally he's actually married to pic related.
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>>79126080
Please. Vader isn't "challenged" at all. The entire setup is horrendously aritficial and forced. He barely breaks a sweat killing half the room and then suddenly the writer realises "Oh fuck I derped" and shoehorns in that the final bosses are mysteriously more powerful than the rest of the jedi, whom they let get slaughtered earlier.

This is 100% crap, you inspid little troll. You can whine about "shilling" all you like, but this is literally on the level of Marvel. This is Dark Horse at its WORST.
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http://imgur.com/a/snQRA

final part.
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I like bagel-shaped Death Star
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>>79126532
SYMBOLISM
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>people still don't know how concept art works
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>>79126618
I know how it works, but I still wanted that Talon booty in TFA.
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>>79126618
>people still don't know how posting works so it's at least vaguely indicated what the hell they are talking about
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>>79126670
>talonfags
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>>79126739
Not a talonfag, a twilekfag.
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Looks like the "stop liking what I don't like" brigade has arrived. If people happen to appreciate female Darth Maul and wouldn't mind spending seven minutes of non-canon sensuous tussling with her and then dealing with a lifetime of space STDs who are any of us to judge?
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Where did the whole "empire is xenophobic" thing come from anyway? Just because the imperials were all humans, or because of lolnazisinspace?
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>>79126849
>7 minutes.
>implying I last that long.
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>>79126903
>"empire is xenophobic" thing come from anyway?
The EU. They saw that the Empire was human in the movies and decided they were all racist against aliens and created Human-High Culture. The funny part is when you see the rebellion is also mostly full of humans as well.
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>>79126915
A combination of being generous and figuring most people's first time with a twi'lek female ends in the tragedy of trying to nuzzle the side of your heads together, taking her ear cone through your eye socket, and then she mistakes your twitching for the best foreplay of her life.
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>>79127045
We at least saw a few non-human rebels.
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>>79127045
Which is weird, cause I never got the impression of any specific species-ism from the movies (except from TPM which has the most heavy handed racism analogy I've ever seen)
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>>79126903
It's because the Empire like the First Order are all cats in disguise. MAUS was right!
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>>79126903
Literally zero aliens in the Empire scenes, and lots of them in the Rebel scenes.

That says a lot, thematically
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>>79127094
>>79127143
But we do see aliens working for the empire. We see the informant in ANH, and then the various bounty hunters in ESB.
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>>79125389
that a fucking joke anon? Cause thats a real shit opinion otherwise
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>>79127088
Brutal.
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>>79127172
People willing to take money from the Empire doesn't mean they're Imperial.
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>>79127172
Yeah, they're working for the Empire but are not part of it.
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>tfw they still haven't released the new cantina music
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>>79127143
>lots of them in the Rebel scenes.
A few Sullistans and a handful of Mon Calamari in ROTJ, that's about it. But it was mostly just humans.
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who are the biggest cucks in the Star wars "scene" and why is it the Star Wars HQ brothers?
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>>79127236
No one cares about your vendetta against these two literally whos.
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>>79127190
Hey, you end up surviving and she thinks you're some kind of god in the bedroom. That's a win win, mister, even if you have trouble remembering simple things like the alphabet and family members faces.
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>>79127272
Sex god with brain damage. Sounds good to me.
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>>79127318
Chicks dig the sympathy angle.
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>>79125019
...seriously? Anon, I hope you never realize that your father and mother will only ever be in your life for maybe half of your ideal existence.
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who /hype for poe's comic/ here
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>>79125052
You are a fool. Death is part of the corporate process in Disney. The fact that you do not realize this is simply a subfact of your immaturity. One day, you will be an adult, and we will be having an adult conversation.
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>>79124800
If he does his journey to the dark side will be complete.

He was seduced by the light once already, George wanted her dead in the clone wars but Filoni couldn't do it.

He's gonna have to make her death extra tragic now to get back in his masters good graces. Killing off the whole cast is probably how he plans to win back George's approval.
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>>79127541
I'm hyped for the story but not the dreadful art
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>>79127651
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So what new bullshit are we going to get for VIII?
Novelty is important.
VII had Kylo's special sword and his blaster bolt freezing.

What're we going to see in VIII that's totally new?
I'm guessing a staff-saber for Rey and Luke doing something from TFU
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>>79127589
See.
>>79125309
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>>79127677
How was that edgy?

Not him, btw.
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Which was the position Anakin wanted to have in Ep 3? He was already a Jedi and was present in the circle reunion what there other position?
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>>79127808
He wanted the rank of Jedi Master.
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>>79127691
I don't like the massive timeskips the Star Wars movies have. You lose to much information
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>>79127691
Luke fighting using only the force. Deflecting blaster fire and lightsaber attacks with his bare hands. I also want to see him as a pilot one more time.
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>>79127822
aren't you a Jedi Master when you have a Padawan?
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>>79127575
You know nothing of the corporate world. Every last ounce of profit must be milked from this new acquisition, which will be thrown out onto the streets to whore if need be. Then, only when every last possible iota of value is milked, will Disney toss the shriveled husk into the gutter.

You, mere boy who pretends to be a man, know nothing. You mewl and whine because you need something you don't like destroyed. What a pointless waste. Disney, sitting in their fully armed and operational Epcot Center, have such grand plans for the largely untapped Grrl Power market.

Now get out of my site, you stunted slime. Back to reddit where you can fester and learn true hatred.
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>>79127808
He wanted to access the forbidden section of the Hogwarts library.
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I just got home with pic related. Time to find out if buying it was worth it.
It probably wasn't.
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>>79127787
Noto's pretty good.
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>>79127822
Speaking of which, why the fuck did the council granted him a seat if they weren't about to give him the corresponding rank?

That seems so petty and intentionally spiteful.

Like, the PT gets shat on a lot for having so much pointless politics, but really, it needed a lot more if it was going to do what it seemed it wanted to do.
Like, they council was clearly against having Anakin be trained. If somehow we could see how they forced to accept him (like maybe there's a FAE that has an executive power) and then we could see how the council could be split enough to both grant him a seat and reject his ascension to Master.
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>>79127859
No you become a Jedi Master when your Padawan becomes a Knight
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>>79127859
Nope. Fully training a padawan isn't necessarily a guarantee of being elevated to Master either, though some people swear it is. It can be considered a sign you are ready but it's always the decision of the Council whether you advance or not.
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>>79127859
Apparently you only need to be a Knight to be eligible for a padawan.
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>>79127850
>Luke fighting using only the force
You want another Yoda vs Dooku? besides Luke killing everyone with a lightsaber will be awesome
he'll probably jump and do backflips like in the PT
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>>79127875
You think only that you are a part of the true whole. One day, as you fall, only then will you realize the true nets raveled around you soul. Maybe then will you understand the nature of profits, but I doubt it.
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>>79127859
Why do people even try to think they know about Star Wars
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>>79127904
Well, that's an opinion.
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>>79127859
There's master and Master.

It's like how in the Navy, any one in control of a ship is called "Captain" by the crew, regardless of the actual rank of the officer.

So a Padawan always calls their instructor "master" even if that person is only a Knight.
Just like how the crew of a ship would call the officer in charge "Captain", even if that person is only a Lieutenant.

English is a fun language.
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>>79127905
>Speaking of which, why the fuck did the council granted him a seat if they weren't about to give him the corresponding rank?
Because the Jedi were fucking idiots and I don't mean that to be insulting, I mean they were dumb as shit

>>79127915
>You want another Yoda vs Dooku
If that entire fight had been just them using the Force at each other, then yes
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>>79127691
>>79127850
>>79127915
I expect to see some better choreography in the battles like in the PT. I prefer those better than the ones in the OT
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>>79127850
>>79127915
It would be absolutely amazing if done right.

None of that bruteforce "I throw" stuff at you, and then we try to push each other down" stuff.

But like a martial artist flowing through combat.
Sliding around blaster bolts.
Giving a slight touch to knock them out.
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>>79127997
I was quite OK with the choreography in the saber duel at the end of TFA.

I liked how you could see the different styles between Kylo, Rey, and Finn
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>>79127997
Only Maul's is good
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>>79127997
Definetly. I don't get why so many people are down on the twirly lightsaber duels from the PT, they're fucking amazing. I mean, no, they're not realistic, but neither is shooting lightning out of your fingertips.
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>>79127958
it always seemed weird to me, how the knights are still given the prefix 'master' regardless. Like a Padawan would be refered to as simply "Padawan _____" when being addressed, like Padawan Tano. But both Knights and Masters are given the title "Master ______" so you hear both "Master Windu" and "Master Skywalker" even though Skywalker is just a knight.

I think this might only go upwards though, like padawans, younglings, and outsiders from the order like clones would refer to a Knight like Anakin as Master, but actual Jedi Master might not? I don't recall. And I have no idea of a Knight would refer to another Knight as Master ______.
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>>79127859
Any one else found retarded how the council gave Anakin a Padawan? All the Jedis except for Obi-Wan saw Anakin as a problem that didn't belong with them since the beginning in Ep1, Ep2 and Ep3. They never trusted him and they give him a Padawan? He was only 22 or younger. He wasn't wise as Obi-wan or the other Jedi members and was reckless and hotheaded. Lucas created Ashoka just to make a new Tv show, that Hack.
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>>79127937
Ah, Ezra my dearest boy. You know absolutely nothing. For my ally is profit. And a powerful ally it is, ho-ho. Value creates it, makes it grow. Price tags surround us, bind us. Marketable beings are we, especially the crude matters! Just ask me about the Poor Little Sith Lord series sometime, lemme tell you. BUT...I digress. You must feel the profit around you. Here, between you, me, the tree, the rock, everywhere! Yes, even the land and the ship! My cousin owns a dealership and came make you quite the offer!
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>>79128113
What was the reason in-universe for giving Anakin a padawan?
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>>79128060
I like the twirly duels because it "accurately" represents a fight between two blades of no mass.
There is no weight to a lightsaber beyond the hilt.

For good or bad, twirly fights is something we need to accept.

It was one of the bad things about Jackson's Windu. He always swung that prop like it had weight. Which, if it was a real sword, would look fine. But it looked so out of place and clumsy compared to everyone else.
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>>79128040
Its the best in the whole franchise i think. Once Obi-Wan fights him alone that is
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>>79128024
The fight in TFA needed more crazy movements like in the PT
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>>79127836
>not using your imagination to fill in the details
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>>79128134
They wanted him to learn and mature
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>>79128176
>The fight in TFA needed more crazy movements like in the PT
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>>79127908
>Anakin must have known he needed to have trained a padawan to knighthood to become a Master
>still threw a hissyfit when he didnt get promoted

Anakin is a real little shit
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>>79128134
Yoda hoped that it would teach Anakin a valuable lesson in letting go when his Padawan matured in the Force. This almost worked after Ahsoka was captured once and used her training to save herself (with some help from Chewbacca and friends). Then it boomeranged on them in the end, making Anakin even more clingier and emo that the galaxy wasn't treating him as he deserved to be.
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>>79128113
Anakin was still a ridiculously advanced Jedi Knight. He had mastered lightsaber and force techniques in record time, and in terms of skill with the force and lightsaber he really was already at Jedi Master level by the time of TCW. They didn't trust him because they could sense that he was still spiritually incomplete and emotionally frustrated, and they were afraid of what he could do with his power. They gave him a padawan to try and calm him down, teach him responsibility and perhaps make him ultimately a wiser man.

Unfortunately, instead of Ahsoka's relatively more gentle, by-the-book nature rubbing off on Anakin, his reckless, brutal tactics rubbed off on her and then the whole ordeal with her leaving the Jedi order happened.
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>>79128113
It was retarded, but so was many of the council's decisions (due to Sheev's literal retard field).

I think it was one of the things where everyone knows it's wrong but does it anyways because that's the "way it's done".

Like
>Skywalker is a Knight in war time. He needs a Padawan to ensure that fallen Knights are replaced
>But he's a problem. We don't know if we can trust him.
>Is there any legitimate reason beyond emotion to why he shouldn't have a Padawan? No? Ok, assign Skywalker a Padawan.
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>>79128122

>All those people mad because hondo got old.
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>>79128195
>>79128206
And if he didn't do well, wouldn't that fuck up her training?
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I'm so glad George is spending some of his Disney billions to make pic related a reality.
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>>79128204
Its Ashokas fault that he never became a Master.
Ashoka is the true reason why the Galaxy is so fucked up
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>>79127999
I want to see Luke fighting like this: https://youtu.be/ldVsVzlFV_o
Deflecing attacks with minimal effort.
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>>79128235
What's one Padawan compared to "fixing" the Chosen One?
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>>79128255
I hope he whispers that to her when he kills her.
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>>79128255
>decides to leave the Jedi Order after they completely screw her over and leave her to be executed

Shocking
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>>79128214
>He had mastered lightsaber and force techniques in record time

None of that matters, you can suck at that and still be a Jedi Master. And Anakin was frequently put in his place by Masters throughout TCW.
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>>79128235
Yoda kept a watchful eye on them, as did Obi-Wan. The whole thing seems to have been a collusion between those two which is why they dropped it on him at Christophsis.
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>>79128152
>I like the twirly duels because it "accurately" represents a fight between two blades of no mass.
Not just that, but a fight between mildly precogniscent people. Jedi can see a few moments or so into the future, and a well trained Jedi knows how a move ends before it even actually starts. Every swing isn't necessarily an actual thrust at the enemy, it's like a rehearsed dance they have to get through, trying to plan enough moves ahead that they can trap their opponent with no way out, or surprise them. It's like speed chess.
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>>79128176
No shut up
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>>79128235
Thats why is pretty stupid.
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>>79127905
>>79127972

They didn't have a choice you fucking autists

Sheev placed him on the council as his representative
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>>79128243
What are you talking about?
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>>79128265
This.
It'll undo what how Lucas butchered Yoda.
A true master Jedi should see physical combat as distasteful and unnecessary.
Only beings are connected to the Force. To harm others is to farm yourself.

While sometimes violence serves a greater purpose and people sometimes need to die, but it should always be regretful.
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>>79128265
autism
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>>79128339
They cut the part out about the Chancellor being granted some power directly over the Jedi which is how Sheev was able to even appoint Anakin as his "personal representative" in the first place. The Jedi, needless to say, were less than pleased.
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The PT's style of lightsaber fights was liked up until AOTC. Along with everything else wrong with that movie, it has literally the worst fight with Obi and Anakin against Dooku. And after the Yoda thing, it started to get a little ridiculous. Then ROTS comes along and the fight that started out as a lightsaber fight becomes a spectacle of look how cool this lava is

Oh and Grievous. Obi vs. Grievous was good for its banter, not so much the fighting
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>>79128401

MACE: Anakin Skywalker, we have approved your appointment to the Council as the Chancellor's personal representative.
ANAKIN: I will do my best to uphold the principles of the Jedi Order.
YODA: Allow this appointment lightly, the Council does not. Disturbing is this move by Chancellor Palpatine.
ANAKIN: I understand.
MACE: You are on this Council, but we do not grant you the rank of Master.

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It's literally said
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>>79128369
Not enough 'pew pew' for you, huh?
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>>79127997
>>79128060
I agree. Jedi are supposed to be these awesome space warriors so of course their fights should be more grand and twirly.
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>>79128369
>autism
How?
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>>79128425
You misread the post which was about why the Chancellor even had the authority to appoint anyone in the first place. This, as well as the other political maneuvering such as the formation of the regional governors, was cut.
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>>79128425
But why?
Why does Sheev get a "personal representative"?
Why then?
Why not before?
The war was winding down then.

Did Valorum have a "personal representative"?

What power did the Senate even have over the Jedi?

The whole Jedi Civil War came down to the Jedi Council saying "No" to helping the Republic
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>>79124588
So why isn't Rebels on Netflix?
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>>79128511
The whole thing was Palpatine fucking with the Jedi right before his endgame. Technically the Jedi had involved themselves in Republic affairs since they were generals, why shouldn't it go both ways? If the Jedi had tried to fight it, well, they didn't want the showdown, not when they felt the war was so near it's end. It was also his way of goading them into what they did, which was send Jedi to make him give up those powers his office had been acquiring.

Basically boils down to "sheev schemes" and him being a bitch for shits and giggles but also furthering his endgame.
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>>79128478
>>79128511

Because he's the fucking Supreme Leader of the Galactic army and most powerful person in the galaxy

And also, I think the Jedi still had the last say in it

>MACE: ... we have approved

This would imply that the Supreme Chancellor could not simply appoint a Jedi to the Council without the Council's consent. A lot of the relationships between the Chancellor's Office, the Senate and the Jedi Order was unprecedented during the Clone Wars. They had never had to work together so closely before - they had to be united against a (perceived) exterior enemy, the Separatists, so much of what happened was unorthodox but all taken in the name of security.

The Council only "allowed" it in order to try to figure out Palpatines plans. They didn't like Anakins relationship with the Chancellor but they assumed Anakin would remain loyal to the Jedi and report on anything suspicious.
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>>79128511
Because the Jedi were serving as generals and commanders in the army of the Republic so Palp and would need to be kept on the up-and-up about their decisions and movements concerning the war. I don't know what his excuse was for waiting for so late into the war to try to get one but I'd say it was due to the failings of the Jedi so many times and the attack on Coruscant was the last straw.
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>>79128555
Disney
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>>79128721
>>79128425

Indeed. Very crucial moment, this is where Palpatine really takes it up a level.
- Firstly, as a direct representative of Palpatine, Anakin is his right-hand man, and one step closer to being Palpatine’s apprentice.
- Secondly, it drives a much intended wedge between Anakin/Palpatine and the Jedi, who are already rightfully suspicious. Psychologically, the Jedi are going to further see Anakin as not truly one of them, and Anakin will sense this, adding to his feeling of isolation.
- Thirdly, he is conveniently using Anakin to spy on his sworn enemy, and knows the Jedi will ask the same of Anakin in return – “I think they will (accept Anakin onto the Council)...”.
- And finally, even though he is asking Anakin to do exactly the same thing as the Jedi will from the other side, Palpatine’s actions comes across as generous and fatherly - seeming to grant Anakin Mastership - which he probably knew the Jedi wouldn’t give Anakin anyway. With the Jedi on the other hand, asking him to spy (through Obi-Wan) is seen as a betrayal and an insult. They appear colder than Palpatine, even though Palpatine is creating this situation on purpose, and the Jedi actually care about Anakin more than Palpatine does – OBI-WAN: “Anakin, I am on your side, I didn’t want to put you in this situation.”
Palpatine’s final line is quite ominous... “They need you... more than you know.” A hint at Palpatine’s true opinion... of course foreshadowing that the Jedi’s own chosen one will tragically become their greatest enemy. The musical transition to the Council spire scene is done perfectly.
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>>79126499
holy shit
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>>79128721
If you'd watched the movies and tv show you'd know that Jedi affairs are separate. They have autonomy. This power grab over them troubled them deeply, they say so. Windu's approval is about Anakin specifically and says nothing about whether they could resist having a personal representative appointed at all. We don't know what a confrontation over rejection would have been like since they capitulated.
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>>79127822
>>79127808
>>79127905

Based Lucas.

This is an interesting scene because we don't know who's morally right.
The Jedi mean well but are wrong in their dogmatism. Anakin is right on the issue, but wrong in meaning.
He's right in that he's overdue for praise. He's a volunteer who is one of the most skilled Jedi.
The Jedi are right in putting this egomaniac in check, but that's ALL they do. They never point out they're in his debt.
Anakin basically has no honor given. He's told to sit like a little puppy, and Anakin just bullshits them right back. Instead of venting his frustration out in the open, the Jedi preferred fake courtesy. So Anakin gives it to them, seethes in the background with his grievances, and then goes AWOL.
That do-gooder society really fucked up on his issues.
It's just a fiction full of plot holes, but you can see the basic dynamics. It's basic negotiation. Anakin has really simple and meetable demands.
1. His mother safe, free and protected.
2. A relationship with Padme.
3. A title befitting his skills and contributions.
Have him dishonorably discharged from the Jedi order. Give him the rank of "knight". In the same way Boba Fett works freelance for the empire on occasion without being an imperial soldier, Anakin could be likewise.
Maintaining a relationship with non-Jedi is important.
The way Anakin was handled was one monumental fuck-up due to their "one size fits all" approach. The "no attachment" philosophy clearly isn't for him.
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>>79126319
It's seems to be pretty good too 0_0
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>>79127895
let us know anon
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Do you guys hope that the RPG, possibly open world "Star Wars" game will be any good? I would love to have the option to choose to be a jedi, sith, smuggler, or a bounty hunter and follow your own path and also create a legacy with your own character.
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>>79128984
The Old Republic?
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>>79128984
Of course I hope it's good
I have my doubts that it will be though
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What happened to her? Was she executed by the Republic? Did she escape? Did she die in Order 66? Will we ever know?
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>>79128822
>Anakin has really simple and meetable demands.
>1. His mother safe, free and protected.
>2. A relationship with Padme.
>3. A title befitting his skills and contributions.
>Have him dishonorably discharged from the Jedi order. Give him the rank of "knight". In the same way Boba Fett works freelance for the empire on occasion without being an imperial soldier, Anakin could be likewise.

But see, this misses a key point for Anakin. Anakin wasn't content to just be happy and left to his own devices. It wasn't just about pride. Anakin was obsessed with helping people and solving problems, and truly believed himself to be the chosen one, that it was his destiny, his birthright, to save the entire Galaxy. In his eyes, he should be powerful enough to save absolutely anyone from anything, and the council was holding him back and not letting him reach his full potential because they were scared of him and what he could do, which was, well, true.

If Qui-Gon had been able to teach him, or the council just had as much faith in Anakin as Qui-Gon had, that whole ordeal might have been averted. Really Sheev's plan hinged on driving mistrust between the council and Anakin, so that they wouldn't let him reach the full potential he so desperately craved, and he would be forced to seek power elsewhere.
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>>79129057
>Will we ever know?
I hope we never know, because once we do, we know it won't be good for her.
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>>79129057
Who knows?
We don't that's for sure
Yet everyday it's the same question
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>>79128984
What's this?
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