Why did she use her power to turn him gay?
>>79061262
Gingers are Satan's spawn who spread sin around the world.
>2016
>not wanting to be converted to gay
Anon, come on.
Fun fact: there are less redheads in the world than there are gays.
>>79061262
because 95% comic book writers are ass fucking retards with autism.
prove me wrong.
most stable guys in the business are artist. Most insane and psychotic are writers, followed by inkers and colorist after 1995.
She wanted his D, he didn't want her V. She couldn't fathom why, so she just assumed he liked D better, rather than accept that her snatch is where hopes and dreams go to die.
Just ask Scott.
>>79061389
2% estimation of gingers worldwide compared to 3.5% for gay
Wow, what a gay planet.
She wanted a gay best friend.
>>79061262
Because her psycihc powers breaks the 4th wall, and she knows she needs SJW power and controversy to survive.
>>79061389
that's because gays are present in any ethnicity, while redheads only in western europeans
Because she was tired of reading his mind when he didn't know about it and seeing all the lewd degrading acts he was imagining her doing. She got upset because he's own privet thoughts offended her, and like and sjw she took drastic measures to "fix" him. Jean Grey is killing the mutant race.
>>79064727
>Because she was tired of reading his mind
Then stop doing it.
>>79064742
You obviously don't understand how telepaths work when they are dirty mutants. Prof X taught everyone that it's wrong to read minds, unless you want to. No mutant telepath is just going to stop reading minds because it's impolite.
Inb4 she can't control her powers.
>>79061262
Because All New Jean has no regard for other people's minds or thoughts.
You can't make people gay, they're born that way. She just made him aware of that fact :^)
>>79064779
I hope this evil shit doesn't get forgotten like Hope's mind controlling of everyone who touched her.
>Kill all mutants
>Castrate all Inhumans
HUMANS BEST RACE #2016
>>79064888
well that got forgotten because literally everyone new mutant on that page, including Hope, is completely forgotten. Even Idie who they really wanted to push in the Wolverine and the X-Men run
>>79064922
Mutants are humans
>>79064950
That's what the mutie cabal that secretly controls the world wants you to believe. Wake up sheeple.
>>79064959
what about the sentinels
>>79065008
Sentinels are a fireworks show. Mutants stage attacks with them to get public sympathy.
>>79064803
That's all Bendis. He basically thinks psychics should be in everyone's heads all the time.
He did the same thing with Jean in Ultimate Spider-Man. Kinda wonder why no one thought to ask why the fuck she was reading Peter's mind minutes after meeting him in the first place.
>>79061262
She's a shipper.
>>79061262
Storytiming this shit:
>>79061262
He was probably staring at her tits or arse and she caught him with her mind and so put a stop to that once and for all.
>>79061262
Because All New Jean Grey is a horrible person with no sense of boundaries or morals and sees no problem with reshaping people's minds as needed.
>>79065563
[arm flapping intensifies]
How can this bitch be sure he's gay and not bi?
>>79061262
>forcibly outing a person against their will
How progressive. :)
If I had psychic powers I'd make all women bi and promiscuous.
>>79061262
its kindahotdesu
she should mindrape everyone gay that she meets for the fun of it
>>79065638
Because there are signs that Bobby's gay. Just ask CBR, they know all about those signs.
>>79065638
she can't
its just the writer being a cunt basically
>>79065638
She's slept with a Summers, she knows bi from full gay.
>>79065699
is that Tabitha?
>>79065699
Here's where he comes out:
>>79065729
Hi, Phoenix Egg.
>>79064933
She's in All new X-men, though you can barely tell it's even her anymore.
>>79065603
>"Put away"
As a gay dude, nothing makes me angrier than this. Just make a new fucking gay mutant. It's easy!
>>79065729
>She's slept with a Summers
Panel.
>>79063314
There's red headed Asians, you retard
Ainu are sometiems red heads, and Ghenghis Khan was a red head
>>79064888
Fucking dogkin.
>Marvel in charge of not being awful when it comes to gay stuff
They should just let it go and admit that DC is much better at handling LGBT characters. This whole retcon is just fucking retarded.
>>79061262
>all this time and still no New Jean r34
I guess I'll have to take the matter into my own hands.
>>79063182
>it's homosexuality. i ain't gotta explain shit
Is there any chance that all of the shit that's going on is just young Jean subconsciously telepathically rewriting people's thought processes to fit her headcanon?
>>79061262
>>79066067
totally. But, they also apparently just forgot Hope was doing that too. or think its ok or something. Who the fuck knows.
So don't expect any resolution or comeuppance for it.
How long has it been?
And this plot thread is still just hanging and nothing's been done with it.
Bendis really, really needs to write with dialogue emphasis in the speech bubbles. It still wouldn't be good but this is almost unreadable.
>>79065563
>and believe me she does
magik's mind is supposed to be impenetrable to psychics.
>>79065937
>>79065719
he's had sex with a lot of women. That proves he's gay.
>>79066394
Well maybe it's not a mind reading thing.
I mean I can believe that Bendis would just straight up ignore that but still.
>>79065947
>>79066430
Playing devil's advocate, there are lots of crazy closet cases and y'know the concepts of beards
>>79066424
kek
>>79065973
they're like what 1 in a million? possibly less
>>79065973
Ghenghis Khan was a red head because his mother was a westerner
>>79066434
the way it was presented it suggests that Jean knows in th same way she knos bobby is gay
>>79063314
Red hair is a trait in all ethnicity and has always been since the dawn of man. There is a tribe in Africa the has so little genetic diversity that every one in the tribe is a red head.
COLD AS ICE
>>79065877
now you know how black people feel about comics.
>>79065618
Hills was the best thing about this run.
>"Last night I dreamt the X-Men blew up the moon."
>"Director?!"
>"It was a very vivid dream."
>>79061262
Because Bendis hates bisexuals.
>>79065639
It's bits like that glance from Laura make it look like what most here are saying: Jean is directly interfering in the minds of other almost constantly. She wants a new gay BFF; ergo Bobby is made to be gay. Laura isn't actually keen on Angel but Angel is interested in her; so she makes Laura fall for Warren.
>>79061262
Did she have his consent? Oh, boy.
>>79063314.
>>79066474
My dad was a red head and he's black. lightskin and freckles too.
>>79066067
A chance, sure, but Marvel would never have the guts to write it.
>>79066871
>he's black.
>lightskin
>>79067067
He doesn't know about lightskin niggas.
>>79067075
Ain't no such thing but ashy niggas.
>>79066034
>DC is much better at handling LGBT characters
Need I remind you what happened to Alan Scott?
>>79067121
Yeah, but that whole comic was shitty to begin with.
They handled it well enough during Multiversity.
>>79067067
>>79067094
>Being this stupid
>>79067121
>earth 2
Not even Robinson could make that good. You'd have been better off bringing up the "no marriages" thing that screwed over Batwoman.
When DC messes up it's because of incompetence. When Marvel messes up it's because they dive head first into a mental pit of money and good PR.
But DC has Midnighter so they win by default.
>>79067121
As opposed to how Marvel has handled stuff like Iceman and Hercules, among other recent fuck ups?
DC's got Midnighter, Constantine, Harley Quinn, Catwoman, and that's just characters with their own books, there's plenty of support cast too
>>79067184
you know, I am blond, but have dark hairs
>>79067275
Robinson's run of E2 was magical. It's what happened after he left that really sent the series into the shitter.
>>79067431
Rose tinted glasses. Robinson lost his skills doing his JLA run. Not even counting Gay for Justice because that was allegedly written ages ago.
>>79065603
>how can my older self not be, but i am
>I on't know, it's a unique situation
IT'S CALLED BEING BISEXUAL MORON!
>>79067481
What's a bisexual? Never heard of them.
>>79067309
Catman is also pretty much the lead character in Secret Six.
>>79067481
A what now
>>79065603
>>79067481
>But I think you're more...full gay
"Just start sucking dicks. I think you're full gay. Super gay. You're so flaming it hurts. But it's not because it's easier for the audience to understand black and white terms and for us to make a bigger deal about this, it's because you're REALLY gay. People don't change and their tastes don't fluctuate so future you is clearly in the closet."
>>79067121
You mean an entirely new universe? It's not like they went "Hey you know that old guy, married with kids? Actually super gay"
It's a new universe, so I give them a pass if they want to mix stuff up.
>>79061262
It's an allegory for 4chan.
>>79063099
Fuck this gay earth.
>>79066681
"But, Spider-Man. How is it that you, my future self is white when I'm black?"
"I just sort of put it away."
>>79061262
>retroactively make the second biggest x-manwhore gay
That's what gets me, aside from Jean very obviously abusing her powers and making him gay.
>>79068299
This is hilarious when you learn about how badly Micheal Jackson wanted to play spiderman.
He even tried to buy marvel in the 90s to do so.
>>79065234
do you have a page for that?
>>79065699
Is Boom Boom leading the Mutant Resistance?
>>79065603
>Maybe I'm bi
>No you're not because I said so
Fuck yourself Jean
>>79068464
No, see, having sex with all those women is the surest sign of being gay.
>>79068464
>>79069063
>>79061262
Imagine if they decide to make him hook up with johnny storm.
>>79069128
You know, I thought Johnny was bi. It would make more sense than Iceman be gay.
>>79061262
Because Bendis realized that nobody would care or remember anything about his run so he hastily had to put something together that people would HAVE to remember. Because if they didn't and made him have sex with women after making him full gay, then would be an uproar.
Notice that despite how decompressed his storytelling is, he managed to make Bobby full gay and addressed it in less than ~20 total pages without regard to what Bobby actually thinks.
>>79069454
>>79069128
He always was flaming
>>79065910
>>79065919
>>79065932
>>79065937
>>79065947
Can someone post the edits to these pages? An anon edited the preview pages with dialogue and close to these. It's sad how predictable Marvel is.
>>79065234
To be fair, most Marvel Psychics have to struggle to keep other peoples' thoughts at bay, without training (and some even with training).
IIRC, this Jean hasn't had any training in that regard, so leave her the fuck alone, you Christless flatscans.
>>79061457
Let me clue you in on something -- writing comic books was not their first choice.
They all wanted to been novelists or screenwriters or playwrights or poets with grants and a Giller Prize.
Instead they washed out and ended up writing disposable stories about immortal magic people in spandex.
You tell me how your mental health fares when your dreams are crushed and replaced with something trite and juvenile that doesn't even pay very well.
>>79070786
>that projection
Some people actually enjoy their job
Is this series worth getting into?
>>79070786
Nah, the reason most comic book writers are autists who can't write is because they're comic book fans that managed to land a job writing them
>>79061363
Sheeit, can I at least be a power bottom?
>>79066014
>a close up of Cyclops' eyes
>conveying nothing because he wears a fucking visor that obscures his eyes
The writer on this comic should be shot, there's so many things where the artist has been stuck with the most god damn dumb things to draw and done a wonderful job - would that dumb ass "come on... you know..." conversation even have been as good if the artist wasn't capable of entirely conveying the sheer retarded guppy look someone who might say that would have while saying that?
What about this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgQc4ZkVeMY
>>79066424
>I'm so fucked up.jpg
>>79067481
>BISEXUAL
No such thing exists in the Marvel universe!
>>79065563
>>79065572
>>79065582
>>79065593
>>79065603
>>79065613
Damn, that's some shit writing right there.
>>79070516
It was me! I was the one who edited them. And I will never get tired of posting them, so my pleasure.
>>79073223
Also, pages 2 and 3 were uncoloured, inked pages at the time that they were posted online, so I coloured them myself so they'd look a bit more authentic. Perhaps not professional quality, but I think they look okay, and I had fun doing it.
>>79073269
I've had so many people tell me that these edits are their official headcanon now, which I find pretty delightful. I've been toying with doing more edits of Bendis's X-books; I've got a load of ideas I really like, but it's such a lengthy process.
Probably because he was the only one not attracted to her. Hank, Scott, Warren, and even Charles himself wanted her. Bobby wanted someone with a soul I guess.
To Jean, thats unforgivable. Especially teen Jean. She has to be the center of attention because everyone loves her and gets really upset every time she dies.
>>79070786
Except for Johns. I would bet my life that writing comics was his first career choice.
>>79073306
>>79073269
>>79073223
Ey man, I LOVE these pages. Did you make them in Paint.net?
>>79074606
I have no idea what paint.net is. I used my trusty old Photoshop version 7 that I've been using for like sixteen years or so now. A reliable old workhorse.
Here's my edit of the first two pages of All-New X-Men #1, which I MAY wind up doing more of if I can find the motivation.
>>79071511
This.
If I, or You, or anyone on this thread, or board even, someday manage to land a comicbook writer job. The comics produced will be among the shittiest pile of crap ever produced.
>>79074786
>mfw that page
Paint.net is a freeware Photoshop clone that doesn't hog your CPU.
>>79074903
Well, that's the benefit of using Photoshop 7; its system requirements are such that I could run it on a machine that's 20 years old, much less a modern computer. And I'm so comfortable with the interface that it's hard to imagine wanting to try to learn something new now!
>>79074574
... I thought Superboy WAS a clone of Superman and Lex Luthor?
>>79075708
Only because Johns became the writer for Teen Titans and made it so.
>>79061262
God, why is Jean such a massive cunt in everything she appears in.
>>79065618
I think Bendis tried to make her into a more tamed Dirk Anger.
>>79065639
Yeaaah this looks like Jean is fuxking with everyone's minds.
>>79075741
Ahh, I see.
Jesus, that's some serious obsession.
>>79075800
That is her character. How long did she string Scott and James along?
>>79066455
Its not some freak genetic occurrence; it happened semi-regularly among mongols and their ancestors. With all the raiding and pillaging and conquering into China they and they cousins have done, theirs enough genetics for it to pop up once in a while for the chinese.
More common for the actual mongols, however. Common enough to be known as a family trait.
>>79074786
>>79073306
>>79073269
>>79073223
These are pretty awesome do have a tumblr or something?
>>79061262
no prof x to rein her in
>>79065823
I can't prove it, obv, but that wasn't me.
Not even sure how that post was reminiscent of me.
Anyway, then answer to this thread is Bendis. He needed some easy controversy because otherwise his run would have ended on an uneventful note in addition to being badly written.
>>79064803
>Implying this isn't the setup for a new Dark Phoenix Saga
No wait, that would be way too smart for Bendis.
>>79077255
>Not even sure how that post was reminiscent of me.
Really mate? Your more predictable than boco and his self hate.
>>79076046
The first thing I thought when I saw t hose aliens was "Asian caricature".
>>79078123
They are not-Dominators.
>>79069063
Perhaps the only time Iceman was even remotely interesting.
>>79072741
>Bendis
>>79065932
I can't believe this shit is canon.
wow
is this Bendis or somebody taking up the Bendis mantle
>>79066446
Bobby is not one of those though.
I like Magik's horns.
>>79079791
It's going to be funny when he ends up being a stereotypical gay guy and nothing else
>>79082271
I know this is beating on a dead horse, but WOW this gay retcon is such fucking bullshit,
Instead of making a new mutant gay character, the writers decided that it's a better idea to just simply make an existing character gay themselves.
And all those women that the existing character hooked up with... Did it really matter and prove that he was really straight? Nope, it was just him trying to simply prove that he's not gay, I guess.
Jesus christ, this was just handled so horribly.
At the very least they could've just made him bi, but instead it had to be "full gay", or whatever the fuck that means. I can't wait until when one of these days they're gonna pull a fucking Bruce Jenner on somebody, maybe it'll be freaking Gambit or Nightcrawler who goes transgender out of nowhere. Just pick a guess at this point since Iceman was probably the least likely to be considered gay.
>>79065947
Oh geez... so they DID make Iceman gay???
I'd sooner buy it if X-23 smelled the gay on him than I would Jean being the one to break it to him. because Jean can't go a single issue without abusing her powers.
>>79082899
You don't understand. Bendis DID create gay characters, 2 at least. But they were completely forgettable and no one cared. He had to make sure his run wasn't forgotten, that years from now people will still talk about his run like they do with Whedon, Gillen, Morrison, and Clearmont. In his early interviews he even said he wanted to be like Clearmont on his run. So what does he do? He pulls something out of his ass last minute to get people to talk about it. No one can undo it, they don't have the balls to and he knows. What's worse is that everyone on Team Bendis will bring it up, so it won't be forgettable either. The best part is Marvel, and Bendis, crushed whatever controversy or butthurt there was with sarcasm and their classic "it's just boys being mad because we are SO progressive" line.
>>79061262
>Jean was a hardcore fujoshi in her teen years
>she's secretly using her powers to turn everyone gay in order to fulfill her fantasies
we really can't talk about this enough
>>79070688
>She hasn't had any training in that regard
There were at least 3 points during All-New X-Men where she was trained with her powers. If you didn't read the book, at least don't make it so obvious
>>79085000
>we really can't make Bendis rich enough
>>79066014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbusENG6hCE
Every time. Every damn time.
>>79068720
>Resistance
>Randomly murdering anyone who stumbles upon their seemingly completely abandoned ruins
Boy, the mutants sure do make me super sympathetic with the plight of how they're so totally oppressed all the time by damn flatscans, boy howdy!
>>79065691
So, do absolutely nothing to change them.
>>79064803
>god-given things
>not gifts
>or any other non-placeholder noun
Who the hell wrote this, a 7-years-old?
Oh, it was Bendis? Oh well.
>>79073306
>You're gay. Be Gay. BE GAY.
>>79065919
>>79065932
>>79065937
>>79065947
This is beyond retarded. They have to twist canon around so fucking hard just to maintain the belief that everyone who's gay was born that way and just hid it from everyone including themselves for their entire lives up until the point where they "come out".
They can't dare risk suggesting that it's possible for someone to be straight and then become gay later in life because that's completely impossible and to even suggest it would be horribly offensive.
So Bobby is gay now? For what purpose? He wasn't gay all along, why would they change an already established character to fit their way of thinking when they can make an entirely new character?
He was pulled from an alternate timeline where he was gay. Do you faggots even read comics? These are universes where a 1000 different Spidermen exist and people are taking issue with who or what 616 bobby fucked.
>>79089018
No, he was gay all along.
He was in such deep, intense denial that even he didn't know he was gay and accidentally had sex with several women thinking he was attracted to them when he really wasn't.
>>79089065
Read the storytime. They retconned it so that 616 Bobby was always gay and had sex with several women out of pure denial of his sexuality.
>implying that there are any good gay super heroes who aren't midnighter and apollo
Pic related
>>79089065
Now see that's what really surprised and pissed me off about this whole arc.
Literally hundreds of times before when anybody in the Marvel universe has dealt with time travel bullshit it always turns out that it was just another universe, because you can't actually travel back in time without it affecting the current timeline. The second any change is made that means it's a different timeline.
The fact that NOBODY remembers being brought to the future should indicate that these aren't the original X-Men. I mean for fucks sake Jean has powers that she wouldn't have for years, but they just handwaved all that bullshit away because of reasons.
And like everyone before me, it's soooooooo fucking obvious she's mind controlling people whenever she feels like it.
Also Bobby is so fucking obviously Bi that it hurts. Christ sake why isn't every character in Marvel Bi just so we can stop having people wonder about that shit. Just have Reed Richards make a Bi-The-Way-Ray and boom, no more problems. I can totally imagine Bullseye blowing his load perfectly into a trash can while thinkin' about Daredevil.
>>79089065
>>79089330
They made it a point in the story to show it was the original past versions of the O5. When Teen Scott died, Old Scott blipped out of existence. Everything can literally be hand waved as "they were mind wiped and returned" if they ever plan on returning them. You can even chalk up Old bobby being gay simple to "young bobby came out early so old bobby realized he was gay" side effect bullshit. You can mind wipe teen Bobby and return him to the past, but that won't change old Bobby from not being gay.
The only bullshit is they would be a year older if they went back.
It's fucking Bendis, what he says goes and if he wants something, he will get it.
>>79088914
>They can't dare risk suggesting that it's possible for someone to be straight and then become gay later in life
Or the reverse.
>>79089717
What if him being straight saved someone's life?
Like he stopped a supervillian from killing a girl by staring at her pretending to check her out and intercepted him.
>>79089128
Batwoman is good too.
