FUCK YOU AND DIE MARVEL!
They tuned a obscured but well liked character into a prostitute just so they can flat out say sexualized dark toned female characters from the 90s are gone and never coming back and that they were the equivalent of prostitutes and those that still like them are basically men that use prostitutes.
BURN IT THE FUCK DOWN!
THEY HAVE CROSSED THE FUCKING LINE!
>>78917647
Fuck off S/D.
What the fuck does this even mean?
That was your limit? No wonder they get away with the weirdest shit.
>>78917647
Who the hell is this? And why is Cap a dog?
>>78917696
>People that work in marketing and advertising are soulless assholes that only care about money
GO TO BED IT'S LIKE 3AM WHERE YOU AT
>>78917708
a long and storied tradition of Captain America turning into a werewolf
>>78917716
No wonder nobody cares about these characters.
>>78917647
Read the preview for the next issue
She turned to evil (and stripping) because her boyfriend Constrictor needed money for medicine
>>78917647
lol literally who
No one fucking cares, faggot.
>>78917757
What's wrong with Marvel? They have maybe four books worth reading now.
>>78917647
Marvel that's crazy pal you knew in high school who was always down to party but after college they got a high paying job and became buttoned up corporate stooge and are no longer fun to be around.
the "Anti Bad Girl Movement" doesn't really bother me when the Big 2 do it, but when Dynamite sanitizes Vampirella and Chaos! comics it drives me nuts.
>>78917647
>They tuned a obscured but well liked character into a prostitute just so they can flat out say sexualized dark toned female characters from the 90s are gone and never coming back and that they were the equivalent of prostitutes and those that still like them are basically men that use prostitutes.
kek, what?
>>78917647
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>>78917647
You do realize she's talking about B.A.D. Girls, the actual name of the team she was on with Black Mamba and Asp, right? It's not supposed to be a commentary on the 90s.
More importantly, read the preview to the next issue, or just wait for the next issue o come out
>>78917757
>cyber bullying
>a scourge
jesu christe
>>78917716
Was Bucky werewolf?
>>78917821
>>78917752
But Constrictor wasn't that poor, he worked for government and Zemo, right?
>>78917805
No its a metaphor for the Bad Girl comics of the 90s.
>>78917834
He became a Hulk, if that counts.
>>78917647
Why is her nose red?
>>78917871
colorist trick to create depth.
>>78917871
It's a prostitute-thing
>>78917647
> Still reading comics.
Cape comics are trash, and so are a bunch of others too. Read creators only, and nothing else.
>>78917647
If there was ever a time for you to drop the Big 2 cancers now is it OP.
I dont follow DC much, but Marvel has exactly 4 books that arent complete trash.
>>78917871
I can't believe I have to keep on pointing this out, when artists depict characters with it so much these days. One would think it would be common knowledge by now.
It's a medical disorder called Rosacea, which causes a pronounced redness around the nose, and in andvanced cases causes the nose to become bulbous and deformed. If you look at Grunkle Stan from Gravity Falls, he's obviously meant to be one of those more advanced cases, whereas Diamondback here is at the beginning stages of the disease.
>she wants the knot
>>78917843
Fucking based.
>>78917694
S/D actually liked this issue so I doubt it's them.
>>78918038
Dat feel when rosacea. Feels bad man.
>>78918182
Well, he'll like issue. Diamondback showed up after X amounts of days.
Get over it you fucking child
>>78917757
From the minds of "here's my satire series about ME and some golden age wank hero I just made up."
>>78917647
are they implying thor sex change is a show of advancement?
>>78917757
kek. I hope no one ever said something so stupid
>>78917778
that pal was a traitor.I wanted to study hard but he seduced me into partying and then did better than me on tests. fuck that guy
>>78918426
But it is progressive change, even sales are better! :^)
>>78918440
Ignorance is bliss, anon.
>>78917821
>or even in the same league as regular suicide
>>78917871
tumbler art + too much vodka
>>78918453
>But it is progressive change, even sales are better!
its a change.claiming its inherently positive is sexist.
>>78918440
It's an actual quote.
>>78917647
>>78917696
So apparently whoever wrote this never read any of Diamondback's actual stories? That's kind of sad, why even use an existing character if you don't do any research?
>>78917647
I'd hire her.
>>78917647
Who gives a shit about Diamondback, a trash character from a crap time no one cared for.
>>78917757
leaving out the cyber bullying shit would this be an ok story? it may fly in image comics comics where heroes are whores and monsters but in big 2 it would be counter intuitive since if even the inspirational hero can't handle his shit what chance does a weak reader have, he should pick up the razor right now.
>>78917647
Are you that guy that always writes the Diamondback/Songbird porn?
>>78918666
superior iron man pls go
>>78918762
Why does Marvel have such a short term memory? THIS IS FROM THE SAME TIME AS CIVIL WAR, FUCK
>>78918704
>>78919016
Story trumps continuity applies to both DC and Marvel, faggot.
>>78917696
>>78917647
Diamondback is a really terrible example of a "bad girl". They should have had someone who actually fit that bill do this, like Psylocke or Domino.
>>78919016
>dude still feels like shit and still wears Penance costume
>Tony just wipes his mind and everyone loves him
>>78918961
No, he/she was actually OK with the issue apparentlty.
>>78919103
Or Titania
>putting mutants as examples
Denied by the disney comitee
>>78917647
>They tuned a obscured but well liked character into a prostitute just so they can flat out say sexualized dark toned female characters
So novel, unheard of until now. Truly remarkably original. We should write about this unique idea online because this has never happened before.
>>78919156
Titania is a bad example as well, she's just a villainess, not a Bad Girl. Also she predates the bad Girl craze by half a decade.
>>78919103
>like Psylocke or Domino.
Are those actually two different characters to begin with?
>>78919183
Yeah Psylocke is a sadist cunt, Dom is a fun bouncy likeable sex loving BFF.
>>78919183
>>78919208
They started out pretty similar. Well started out in Psylocke's case meant "Claremont gives in to Jim Lee's AZN ninja slut fetish". But they have evolved differently since.
Psylocke is pretty much the poster child for the Bad Girl movement at Marvel though, even though other characters like Lady Death epitomize it better.
Diamondback is the only one for Steve and now she is treated like this.
>>78919374
Diamondback is to Cap as Catwoman is to Batman and Black Cat is to Spider-man.
Notice how both Catwoman and Black Cat went full villain in the last two years. Now it's Diamondback's turn.
>>78919119
It's not really gone.
>>78918629
Actually, it's pretty in character with Diamondback, even referencing her and Constrictor back in Avengers the Initiative
>>78919440
That's what I said, he's still Penance. Just pretending to be Speedball.
>>78918379
>I just made up
Except he didn't make him up.
>>78919454
No? She's more moral than most actual heroes of this cynical age.
>>78919440
Oh jesus that's sad
Go back to tumblr you salty faggot.
>inb4 le tumblr boogieman xD
>>78920216
The best part is, because Hummingbird is a reincarnated Aztec god or something, the whole Penance thing gave her the biggest ladyboner.
Why'd you have to go and get cancelled, New Warriors?
>>78919440
what book?
>>78920650
New Warriors.
>>78917778
so marvel has become the DC of the silver age?
>>78918426
The thing that pisses me off is Marvel keeps pushing that in universe female heroes weren't taken seriously which is such false bullshit that I am sick of seeing them push.
>>78918704
Japs liked her.
>>78917843
>successful rapper with verified status and millions of fans tells powerless teenagers who get stalked and mocked everywhere, even on their only social outlets, and get impersonated by people who hate them to just get over it
Tyler is a cunt
>>78919969
So?
The comic shows her looking like she has fallen on hard times, which turns out at least in part a lure for Cap when she backstabs him ina Serpent Solutions ltd. ambush.
Her reasons for any of that are not explained, but the comic implies she does this out of necessity or for other reasons does not feel all too hot about it.
>>78917647
I think she was supposed to be a stripper. We don't see her work, just where Sam picks her up. Since she is with Serpent Society, she may not even actually work there at all.
>>78921394
>Her reasons for any of that are not explained,
It's because Constrictor has cancer and neither of them have money for medicine.
>>78921428
Where was that specified? I seem to have missed it.
>>78921438
>>78921511
>>78921521
Where's Zemo with his Nazi gold when you need him?
>>78918038
Back in my day it just meant the character was drunk as a skunk.
>>78921548
He's busy in his Citizen V book.
>>78921560
Preparing for crossover with Death's Head?
>>78921568
Yeah, the one that's setting up the new Fantastic Four ongoing.
>>78917843
>>78921250
>>78918162
He's making a joke. He knows he isn't supposed to be taken seriously as an adult swim stoner comedy superstar, so his position is meant to represent the ignorance of others.
>>78917696
okay if you don't get this joke you are literally autistic.
>>78919440
I am always amused when I see Penance cause I think to myself "Marko Djurdjevic designed that and it clashes so much with established aesthetics in the Marvel universe".
>>78921511
>>78921521
Oh. I missed the preview, then.
Thanks.
>>78921640
Or work in marketing.
>>78921438
This anon beat me to it.
>>78921511
>>78921521
Rachel is clearly feeling like shit over this, but she doesn't seem to have another way to make money than to go back to the Serpents. Kinda weird that the Initiative had no form of retirement plan, but I guess with how sudden it was revoked that was not an option.
I genuinely feel bad for these two schmucks.
>>78921077
Sounds demeaning to Marvel heroines.
>oh your heroic deeds don't count because nobody took you seriously b4
>>78921777
Working for government doesn't pay out.
>>78921077
they push it out of universe too.
I remember them shitting on Past She-Hulk and saying "This one in A-Force is different". And they don't even want you to remember the X-Women
>>78921077
This is 99% editorially mandated bullshit. It's bad enough that Marvel are bad at keeping their classic comics in print, but actively shitting on the past when those comics were often the best that the characters have ever been is such a fool's errand. It only tricks people who have read comics for 10 years or less, and who don't bother to read material older than that.
I really hope this short-sightedness comes back to bite Marvel in the ass eventually.
>inb4 marvelshills somehow manage to make it seem like ANAD marvel isn't failing
At least this heel turn makes sense compared to Slott and Black Cat. Hell, it is rare that Marvel wants us to feel sympathy for a villain who isn't Loki.
>>78921990
Also Titania in the new Illuminati
>>Diamondback proves to have more conflict in these pages than Carol, female Thor or Spider-Gwen ever had their whole push.
I hope she actually gets a growing fandom.
>>78922044
Right, forgot about that one.
>>78922044
I want to like that book, but the toddler scrawling art just is too off-putting. Shame, since it uses some seriously under-used characters.
>>78922109
Yeah I'm not really feeling it so far
>>78921185
And Japs have awful awful tastes what's your point?
>>78918038
My older brother actually has Rosacea, its like his entire face.
But its not as bad as some people's Ive seen when googling it.
>>78921552
Or extremely jolly.
Sometimes both.
>>78922109
>>78922126
Right. Good premise, but just going nowhere fast.
Showing why and how villains fail from an inside perspective doesn't make it any less frustrating to watch it happen.
>>78917752
Wait, when did they get together? Didn't they break up at the end of the same book where they got together?
New issue is tomorrow, so...
>>78921250
Sorry but teenagers these days are fucking pussies and social media is a big part of why that is. It's softened you kids up to the point where someone on a keyboard can say some bullshit and get you lames to off yourselves. Tyler was making a joke but there is truth to it.
>>78917647
I wonder how much you can pay her to cum in her.
>>78917772
Ms. Marvel, ANAL Avengers, ANAL Inhumans... what's the fourth?
>>78917647
It's getting hard to be a marvel fan these days.
It's sad because I did not oppose to all those changes, yet I grew up reading and enjoying comics in the 90's and 00's. My favorite X-men is the X-statix for instance.
It's like they resent all the money, attention and love I gave them.
Celebrate your pass while you embrace the "future" or whatever this madness is, do not look down to the designs of old and shit down your fans. I feel bad for ever caring in the first place.
>>78922149
For real, judging by their character selection and how much screen time they gave Pym theyhave better taste than /co/ when it comes to Marvel.
>>78921877
The amazing thing is writers and fans tended to take then seriously and its so frustrating to listen to them shittalk She-Hulk and others and amazingly disrespectful to the writers that did care.
>>78919454
It's pretty clear they never read any of the actual issues or they'd know that she and Constrictor broke up after he went on the lam and she stayed with Cap and SHIELD. Hopefully this wasn't written by Spencer.
>>78917647
>They tuned a obscured but well liked character into a prostitute just so they can flat out say sexualized dark toned female characters from the 90s are gone and never coming back and that they were the equivalent of prostitutes and those that still like them are basically men that use prostitutes.
If you read the Captain America issues where she appeared, most notably the Grunewald ones, it's kind of said that she whored herself out to supervillains for her gear.
>disliking when comics have commentary and aren't just punching
why
You can tell Spencer loves that bronze age Cap/Marvel and I think that makes the book much stronger. He's good enough now that I trust him to tell a decent story when it's all said and done. Standoff is gonna be interesting.
rip buckyman i remember when he was a joke
>>78925640
Except the fact that he ignored all the character development for the character back in the Bronze Age Captain America and reduced her back to being a prostitute when she started out.
Really this just smells like Spencer looking to do something provocative and not being familiar with the material and just choosing a character with a prostitute backstory to make a statement while not being aware the character hasn't been like that since forever.
>>78917647
Hey,I'd stick my dick in it and cum, if you know what I mean.
>>78917647
She's a Bouncer, did you even read the comic?
>>78925997
Nigga did you even read the comic or are you freaking out over out-of-context panels? She's a stripper, not a prostitute, and is doing out of necessity, not want.
>>78926076
I was hoping it would be this gif
I wasn't dissapointed
>ITT /co/ pretends to read comics instead of just out of context panels and pages
>>78926087
If you read her issues in Initiatve you'd know she broke up constrictor precisely because he had one back to being a supervillain.
This is them reducing a once strong female character to being a victim because it satisfies that feminist narrative that all women were being exploited prior to the present.
>>78921511
>>78921521
>Constrictor comes back as a decent bloke again after Avengers Initiative, one of my favourites
>Has bloody FUCKING cancer
GOD DAMNIT
>>78917778
So DC is the guy who tries his best but ends up screwing up nearly everytime?
>>78921511
>>78921521
It's pretty clear Spencer didn't even read initiatve or he'd know Constrictor lost his arms to KIA and is a cyborg. Fucking idiot.
>>78926952
It's more they both screw up, but Marvel has a PR-man that makes up excuses for them while DC hired the worse PR firm they can buy and gets blamed everything including all the shit that is not their fault.
>>78927423
the whole world gets torn apart and rebuilt and you care about some d listers arms
>>78917647
I'm wondering why, in universe, it is so good Thor is now a woman? The original Thor has saved the world countless times, saved the universe even, and he is now depowered a bit and not as capable
Why does she want one of the most competent and experienced heroes replaced with an inexperienced one for the sake of diversity?
>>78928716
The character was no longer selling and Marvel didn't know what to do. Post-Onslaught and post-Disassembled there were two hiatuses for the character.
What they are trying to do is go back to the very original dynamic, but with a female cancer patient instead of a lamed doctor.
>>78928828
I'm thinking more about the pink haired girl in the op. She is thrilled there is a new female Thor
Why would she want the experienced skilled Thor replaced with a new Thor, who has much less experienced. What if there was a big crisis where Thordette is simply not capable (as if) to fight whatever problem there is, due to her inexperience? Old Thor knows how to handle that kind of stuff, but he is now away, but at least there is a female Thor
Why would any citizen want to replace perfectly capable heroes just because diversity?
>>78928980
Don't know about "any citizen" but for Diamondback, the Pinkhaired girl, if you've seen the previews we can guess, that in her current situation, she's quite enthralled by the idea of starting all over again, with a new identity. Even better with instant credibility.
>>78928980
the same reason all the niggers were supporting obama. whor was one of "them"
>>78928980
I think she finds a growing number of high-profile female heroes somewhat heartening because her own career hasn't been going well.
Or maybe she just thinks that chick might not hit Serpent Society quite as hard.
>>78928980
>I'm thinking more about the pink haired girl in the op.
Get the fuck out and stop pretending you have actual, sincere opinions about comics you rancid fucking casualfag.
>>78929483
Which required a pretty big retcon. Since her last appearance had her as a SHIELD and they are pretty well compensated.
>>78928980
I feel like it pops up a lot in dialogue in these comics and it feels so disconnected from the actual Marvel universe. Outside, on the PR front, it's fine to say "Thor's a woman now!" but inside the universe? It just rips any reasonable person right out of the narrative.
When you look at the actual universes, DC and Marvel, from an internal point their female characters were rarely being ostracized or looked down upon by their male comrades or most citizens that we know of. For them to pretend like they're only just now being taken seriously in universe is a false narrative to the world and rips me out every damn time. DC really isn't doing this as bad at least.
I can't remember where else it popped up but I know I've seen it once or twice now and others have commented that Marvel's been doing it often lately. It just doesn't ring true from the context of the world. When you throw it into your script you need to take a step back and realize it's a bad idea.
Then you have Thor himself. To these people Thor is a person, not a character. He's a friend, and a hero... But they're talking about him as if he's not real. What does it matter if Thor's a woman to these people? Titania fights female heroes all the time why would she give herself up just because Thor is a girl?
She's just another person doing what's right in a sea of people doing the right thing. Thor was their friend but they're all talking about him like one would talk about movie casting. Its putting your ideals first not the world you're working with.
Also in terms of outfits sure they were revealing but you have to remember your character chose to wear them. You can complain about them all you want but your character didn't wear them for the reason they were designed. It can work if it was a brief costume, or if you have another character wear it and realize it kind of sucks like Cass struggling to fight in Babs heels. Its just another thing that rips me right out of the world.
>>78917647
Sucks to see Rachel like that, she was easily the best Cap love interest and I liked her dynamic with him as well as her dynamic with other characters.
>>78926903
Hopefully the same shit happens to him that happened to Patsy and he gets cured or some shit.
>>78921521
Can she go to Steve? I am sure he would have fucking gotten Frank the best treatment.
