Most superheroines would look better with a fully covering costume. Do you agree or disagree?
No SJW discussion here please, this is just a thread about design.
>>78828467
I wouldn't say most, but certainly more than there are now. Batgirl III is best Batgirl. Cassie turned to shit later, but for a while in the mid-aughts she was the best bat-character around. The costume was a big part of why, it fit her character, history, personality, etc well
>>78828467
I kinda agree. For superheros/ines especialy those who don't have powers a practical suit is important.
For example the Huntress outfits who show skin. You run by a fence in the wrong angle and your costume rips apart or your stuck. Not the best condition in a fight.
Another point might be that full cover costumes imply that the heroine doesn't just rely on her female charm but that might be highly subjective.
>>78828467
Yeah but I think costumes need more diversity.
>>78828467
I actually have a fetish for girls wearing face-concealing masks.
>Batgirl
>Spider-Gwen
>Renee Montoya as Question
>Spoiler
>>78828467
Faces are an important part of design.
I also agree. It makes them look more serious. I never like the "Everyone should look like an Olympic acrobat" school of character design.
>>78828467more gimp girls in comics please
>>78830673
>>78830673
Are you sure? They have their normal life but with the mask they become the personification of the hero. Kinda like Rorschach but less crazy.
Also it's not really secret identity if only the eyes are covered. Although you caould say that to half of the male hero cast aswell
>>78828522
technically speaking, Cass is Batgirl IV, as Batgirl III was Huntress in disguise
>>78830903
Kek.
>>78829087
Agreed on this.
>>78828467
>this is just a thread about design
We know exactly what this thread is about, anon
>>78831085
>all these plebs forgetting about Bette
>>78831627
>Talking about astethics in this small contained thread is somehow worse then all the waifu faggotry, generals, other shit threads which only bait for replies
>>78831640
I think most people forget about Helena's time as Batgirl, as it was so short
There was a drawfag in these sort of threads who liked doing full mask redesigns of superhero costumes. Anyone remember his name? Or have his art? I loved his stuff and hope he comes back sometime.
>>78831752
Cepev or something like that. There's a C and a v involved, at least
>>78828467
Annie Wu once brought up a good point in regards to superhero costume design: you need to make a costume that not only makes sense for what they're doing, but reflects aspects about their personality.
take black canary for example. she's a martial artist by practice, but wears leather clothes and fish-net stockings. however she wears that because it reflects on her personality and what she wants to dress in. it may not be practical, but dinah isn't really someone who focuses on practicality.
or let's go to kamala khan. her costume is pretty basic in design because she's a teenage girl without many resources to make a costume that would protect her better.
i don't think every hero(ine) needs a costume that covers up their whole body. it boils down to what makes sense for what they do and their own sensibility in how the costume reflects their personality.
related image here is a terrible design for wonder woman, as is the official finch one, because it doesn't at all reflect diana's personality or her sensibilities as an amazon warrior. it's basic tacticool armor. if all our heroes wore tacticool armor then it'd be incredibly bland and boring.
people say wondy's bathing suit looks silly but it's part of the iconography, which is also important for heroes with long lasting legacies.
>>78831924
on that note this person made a series of terrible redesigns and unironically believes they are genius
>>78831924
>ancient magic bracers are an important part of the design and powerset
>nah let's just make them blend in seamlessly with the rest of this shit
>>78831977
this is why you don't let tumblr morons without any sense of fashion and iconography design costumes my friends
>>78828467
Maybe they should just paint the armor on.
>>78831977
>redesigns
>plural
He only has one design
>>78831977
>>78832007
>lol the incredibles NO CAPES
I both love and loathe that fucking movie.
>>78831924
>>78831977
>>78832007
The first one actually looked good. But then it was all the same. I think its rather the fault of the artist. Tacticool can be apealing but if you always do the same it sucks. There is still space for personal special desings on those things without making them overdesigned
At the very least you'd expect a notorious thief to cover their face somewhat
>>78832175
A notorious thief is a bad one.
A GOOD thief can wear whatever they want and n one will know its them.
>>78832169
>>78832109
I can't wait for the pendulum to shift once more so artists will once again design outfits with bright colors, oversized pauldrons, and long, flowing capes galore.
>>78832175
I've seen an AU Catwoman with a fully covering black suit. Looked really good
>>78831924
>>78831977
>>78832007
Remove the pointless details and cover the heads. Make then tighter and shinier too.
>>78832175
>>78831853
Cepev! That's it. I wonder what happened to him.
While we are at Catwoman. She is actually a prime example of good bodysuit design. Has enough individuality and can show skin if she want.
And most importantly no heels. You can say what you want about any costume but heels just make them unbelievable
>>78832007
>>78831977
>>78831924
These pictures are perfect examples on how they would look like if they became semi practical instead of the personality design.
But sadly, the person who made those designs thinks these are genius
>>78832381
Nowadays people usually give her boots with high heels.
To be fair, DC is already wacky enough and Selina is promiscuous enough that she's one of the few characters that I'd say could work high heels without it feeling completely stupid, but I still prefer boots on her.
>>78832175
I really dig the cheetah tear-lines here. Only thing is it's REALLY cute, and Selina's always been more lewd than cute, I think.
Looking a bit like a cat is also important
>>78831924
>>78831977
>>78832007
I hate this new "costumes have to be realistic" fad. There's nothing wrong with capes and colorful costumes.
>>78831924
>people say wondy's bathing suit looks silly
This would never fly in comics, but WW should be a nudist and not care about how much she covers herself. She would cover herself for the rest of the world, to accept the traditions but on the island they had shared baths and didn't care about nudity
I really like that Storm was a nudist in old comics (doubt shei is now but haven't read).
>>78832508
The costume isn't bad, but having a "catwoman beyond" is a stupid idea
Like, while they were making Batman beyond they were specifically going out of their way to avoid making "joker beyond, two-face beyond, clayface beyond, scarecrow beyond"
You can draw definite parallels, like Ten is Catwoman, Inque shares the villainous elements of Catwoman while filling a clayface role, The guy with the weird spinning outfit has a similar feel to scarecrow while acting more like hugo strange
But they never once just go like "oh this guy is the future version of this guy" straight up, they're all their own characters.
>>78832381
>no heels
>>78832601
Frankly, WW should dress like this
I like Nighthawk from squadron supreme. Mainly for the creepy glowing eyes.
Spider-Girls also benefit from it.
>>78832601
This. she is a statue, and invulnerable. clothing is pointless.
ditto Fire, Killer Frost, Livewire.. any of those elementals for whom clothes are irrelevant
common sense ground-level heroines who need protection should wear sensible useful clothes.
barda warrior types should have armor without much care for what it covers, just that it comes in handy
acrobatic sorts who cant take hits anyway should stick to spandex
it's not that fuckin hard.
I agree, they reflect a lot of personality when done right and i find them way sexier than showing a lot of skin
>>78833017
Oh yeah das it mayne
>>78832866
well, not everyone invulnerable should go around nude. Some invulnerable people are still shy, or they actually want to keep themselves secret like Batman or Superman. Scars could show who you are (I know, poor examples).
But yeah, Iceman prefers to be in his nude ice form, Storm IS a nudist, Hulk doesn't care, She-Hulk also is a nudist (A-Force 1 confirms it with her saying she agrees to no clothes).
There should be more nude heroes. I wonder if that's why I like Singularity, cause she's so...naked. Emotionally and physically.
>>78834044
>well, not everyone invulnerable should go around nude. Some invulnerable people are still shy, or they actually want to keep themselves secret like Batman or Superman. Scars could show who you are (I know, poor examples).
Also invulnerability!=not feeling cold.
>>78831924
>>78831977
>>78832007
Oh look costumes that look ALL THE FUCKING SAME!
>>78828467
Disagree.
It'd just make the design become overdone and bland.
There should be a variety of costumes.
Not every hero should be Spider-man, so not every heroine should be Spider-girl.
>>78834322
And I just had a chat with my LCS owner about how the new X characters in the latest years look too bland\generic, and one of the reasons X-men was successful was because you could recognise them at first sight, without having to read the dialogues
>>78834397
Yeah, Emma and Magick borderline look the same, even outside the artstyle.
Who's the wise guy who thought to take Emma out of white?
>>78834295
depends. If they have accelerated healing, like most do (I can't think of a super that doesn't have accelerated healing), they will generate much more heat and make them resistant to cold. This has been shown with most Marvel supers, especially when they encounter Thor's ice trolls
>>78828467
I agree, it does not make sense for a superhero to be going out with revealing skin tight suits when it doesn't provide any tactical adventage whatsoever.
>>78834593
huh? post pics pls. I'm out of touch with X-men, just trying to catch up. But White Queen should stay that way
>>78834734
>it doesn't make sense for an agile super hero to have lots of restrictions on their movement
>it doesn't make sense for a hero to have full body coverage that restricts their flexability
keep trying.
Ever watch MMA?
>>78834799
Yes and their outfits aren't exposed because of fanservice.
>>78834738
Though to be fair they just got new outfits in the new ongoing so I don't even know what they look like now, but it's probably shit.
>>78834799
Don't respond to Scrapper it's either a retard or a troll.
>>78834698
Superpowers are funky that way you never know how they actually work... people might well have super-regeneration and still being relatively cold.
Or have an invulnerable body but no regeneration better than a normal human(cfr. Luke Cage)
>>78834734
except relatively revealing suits DO provide advantages to those using physical combat.
>>78829784
>Spoiler
That's not how you fucking spoiler faggot it's.
Agreed. They look great
>>78835023
I'm not sure if this is a joke or an idiot.
>>78835066
It's ajoke. Humour isn't my forte.
>>78831977
>>78831924
I like it.
is there a comic that utilizes this style?
>>78835058
that's not a fully covering costume you can see her mouth
>>78835302
It's as fully covering as costumes usually go barring Spider-man and a few odd ones.
>>78834867
You are a fucking idiot who has never exerted yourself. You need to shed heat, so you sweat. But the only way that works is if it evaporates, it can do that between clothing but when the clothing absorbs enough it makes an equilibrium. Hence why they wear the least amount of clothes they can. It's not fan service, that is just a by product that they profit on.
Fucking idiot
As long as it isn't boob armour and it looks good I guess I can live with the design choices.
>>78834900
well, that is kinda hot, but it's not my Emma hot. She is much more sophisticated than that. Morrison really fucked her up, Whedon saved her.
>>78835455
Be glad you didn't read the Bendis run then.
>>78835455
She's been walking around in actual lingerie since she was first introduced. Sophisticated isn't the word I would choose.
>>78828467
>Most superheroines would look better with a fully covering costume.
I find the superheroine clad in a fully covered costume aesthetically pleasing, yes. If solely coz of the ambiguity of it. I wouldn't mind seeing more fully clothed superheroines.
>>78835494
never been to a burlesque even I see. A person can put on a show and then own it. Usually they have more power than anyone in the audience. Emma is FAAAAAR more powerful than that
>>78835554
There's barely any, but plenty of male ones. A lot of people say they "hate the bald look" on female characters which confuses me a lot. The hair hanging out of the cowl Batgirl-style always looked awful to me.
>>78834907
>>78835385
Let's compare the modern comic book hero with the modern world. Soldiers in Afghanistan don't wear skimpy clothing because our clothing technology has advanced so far we can wear clothing that can give off heat and fight at the same time.
>>78835629
I like hair through the cowl.
>>78835960
Doesn't look very good to me.
>>78832381
Unless you're working with a gravity-defying character, then she could probably wear heels and be fine.
>>78828467
God that's such a fucking ace costume design.
>>78832007
The bit about support might make more sense if PG was human, but as a kryptonian on earth no amount of "jostling" will cause her tits tissue damage.
>>78837654
>>78837775
Agreed. The creepy look worked so well for her. All her later costumes fail by giving her the standard cute teenage hero mask and showing her face, which isn't Cass's character at all.
>>78832249
I'm just waiting for mullets to make a come-back
>>78835873
CAM-O-FLAUGH
>>78838982
No thanks.
>>78832007
I like this one. The colors are shit but I like the armored look.
>>78841898
Oh well please do fuck right off and take anyone with your shared sensibilities.
>>78842057
>STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE
>>78842080
Yes, please do that.
Jim Lee and Kris Anka are cancers.
