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Just a reminder. Marvel believes being a woman equals superpowers.
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Just a reminder.

Marvel believes being a woman equals superpowers.
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Are you saying you've met a woman and can disprove their thesis?
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Jesus Christ that face in the middle panel is goofy as fuck
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>>78706452
What is this, Hellblazer?
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>>78706452
Woman here, can confirm.
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>>78706452
>what is first sin witchcraft
>what are witch covens
gender-based magic and witchcraft steeped in femininity has been a thing for quite some time anon
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It's a reference to how women were feared for being more in touch with nature, which made them adept of witchcraft, and how they would go into the woods every solstice or whatever to have sex with the Devil, which in turn is a myth propagated by christianity in an attempt to make people fear pagans.
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>>78706574
It's true, having the ability to convince people that the foulest orifice known to humankind is attractive is magic. I'll stick with good ol' boipuss
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>>78706452
I take this to mean ancient zoroastrian priests were actually pyromancers in Marvel then?

Pls
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>>78706709
what are you even saying
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Englehart put this in Wanda's backstory decades ago when Robinson and Busiek were growing up.

Robinson just picked Englehart over Busiek's explanation for Wanda's powers.
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>>78706763
What's Busiek's?
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women in magic aren't exactly some new invention
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>>78706452
Actually it's about ethics in cuckoldry.
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>>78706780
Englehart went with Nature and womanhood to go along with her probability powers. This was Wanda's independent of Chthon.

Busiek went her probability powers and magic is all Chthon.
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>>78706769
Are you implying the anon is a writer for Marvel?
What the fuck...
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>>78706452
The big two believe whatever makes them money.

If you don't like it, find a way to make the opposite profitable or shut your fucking Commie cockhole and take it like an American-made aluminum strap-on.
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>>78706639
Hey man, if you're too afraid to hit that then you can't blame ol'Lucy for picking up the slack.

Why do you think we wack off so much now? We've got our cocks ready to ward him off and keep the apocalypse away.
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>>78706926
well played.
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>>78706452

>--FEARED BY MENS

MENNNNNN!
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Hey, remember before Bendis when Wanda was adept at magic and even trained another witch?

Hope Robinson brings back her magic student Holly Ladonna.
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>>78707141
Bendis?
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>>78707141
I hope Nico makes it into the book she's just so squee xD
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Chthon!

Bring back Chthon!
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>>78706639
But this isn't historically accurate.
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>>78706585
They are retconing chaos magic for wymin power.
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>>78707396
Chaos magic itself was a retcon of women power.
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>>78707141
Remember how she and vision were friends with a mutant couple who masqueraded as stage magicians to hide the fact that they were actually thieves.
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>>78706452
Isn't she just talking about being a witch?
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>>78707358
yes, of course witchcraft isn't historically accurate retard
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>>78707358
You mean Wanda's take? Yeah, I know, the writers are going by massive propaganda pumped into westerners' brains.
The winners dictate the truth, right?
Pagans were burned and decapitated, so they don't have much say in the matter.
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>>78707287
He's stuck under a mountain in the flickering realm.
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remember when DC tried to imply that a society made of solely women could be a utopia?
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>>78707537
could Doctor Strange beat SW in a fight?
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>>78707683
I dunno, it gets destroyed about once a week.
Doesn't sound much like Utopia.
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>>78707730
by men
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>>78707683
aren't the Amazons like half god or some shit
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>>78707693

On paper yes but Wanda can use her powers and he'd lose because of bad luck
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>>78706452
>Gypsy raised by slavs
>ancient pagan religions linked to the energy of earth and womankind

>>78706663
>wanting to put your dick in a literal human sewer
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>>78707735
And Hera.
And Granny Goodness.
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>>78707683
It's reasonable considering women are less violent and a lot more cooperative than men.
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>>78707766
>women are less violent and a lot more cooperative than men.
oh boy, here we go
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>>78707760
Granny Goodness is just a pawn to a man
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>>78707461
Women power itself was a retcon of altering the probabilites, which itself was a retcon of hexes
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>>78707809
Aren't all women pawns of men?
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>>78706452
reminder: that second panel is never going away.
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>>78707683
>black people
>utopia

that contradiction
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I actually liked Scarlet Witch quite a bit. The "feared by men" thing adds an interesting aspect to what they're trying to do with the character. The plot is a little too familiar but the art and characterization is great.
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>>78707947
Unlike her eyes.
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>>78707738
They were sort of divine but not gods. Like peasant Asgardians.
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>>78707766
>a society of petty helpless creatures
>good
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>>78706585
>>78707766
>gender-based magic and witchcraft steeped in femininity
>less violent and a lot more cooperative than men.
The ole "men and women are equal, but women are better at it," routine. Try opening up a Captain America or Hawkeye book that explicitly stated he was much more qualified than women for his role because they just "don't understand" conflict/wafare.

THAT'S the problem. Women are allowed to publicly wallow around in "what makes them better" but a man would be ostracized from modern, polite society for even QUESTIONING whether or not men may be better suited for some tasks than women.
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>>78706585
So is there any masculine magic or do I have to make deals with dark entities?
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>>78708116
For instance, what if Thor's hammer would only ever consider males worthy. What if women were just afraid of weapons and implements of warfare?

After-all, men are the "more violent" ones.
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>>78707802
Men are Orcs. We fight to rid ourselves of weakness and backstabbing is much more likely to be literal. But in general, we assume places in a hierarchy fast and mostly stick to it.

Women are far more complex in terms of how they keep themselves down. Its more like stockroom trading of favors and grudges. But they tend to keep their numbers higher since social position is so fluid then a knife to the back won't advance you as far as embarrassing them.

Also, Orc chicks are fucking hot. That's very important to understand.
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>>78706452
How did I do senpai?
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>>78708238
Men are Elves, Women are Orcs.
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Jeez you guys really can't let women have anything, can you?
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>>78708286
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>>78706585
Oh god, I've really spent too much time on this board. How did I not think of this.
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>>78708365
Of course. They have to earn it, nothing ever should come free-handed.
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>>78708365
They can't have pussy if I can't get some.

I don't get it either
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>>78708355
So if you beat the shit out of a man enough, he'll become a little girl?
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>>78707895
Women power magic didn't retcon her probability/hex power.

Chthon as a plot point was weakening her natural abilities so she would turn to magic to power them up and unknowingly become a better vessel for him.

They were a addition to her natural abilities.
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>>78708403
So your problem is that Scarlet Witch didn't earn her inherently female magic?
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>>78708116
I didn't write greek literature or create norse mythology

I'm not saying women deserve to be magical, its just that a bunch of witches are often women who refer to women shit
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>>78708403
I find it hard to believe that anyone who browses 4chan earned everything in their lives.
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>>78708445
More or less. Every time a man becomes inferior, he becomes a woman.

>>78708476
Yes. Just like I have to earn my inherent male magic.
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>>78706452
Screw off Bendis.
Go back to raping Guardians.
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>>78708452
She was a mutant, not a magician, jesus christ.
You talk about her natural abilities, like she was Dr Strange with vagina.
The reason she was called a witch, because mutants were treated like witches, something devilish, unnatural. But what do you know?
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What is the big deal? It's a fucking comic book. Who cares if Robinson wants to make Wanda's magic linked to her and other womens' femininity?
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This could've been an interesting thread about women's role in mythology as being the most dangerous thing a man could face (sirens, nymphs, mermaids), or about satanism and paganism and how much it was molded by the inquisition.
Instead, let's just all cry about women getting it easy.
/co/ really is the second gayest board.
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>>78708593
Nothing. We're just gossiping like teenage girls
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>>78708209
phallic symbolism and virility magic is a thing

sacrificing your first born male isn't just a bible thing
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>>78708604
Satanism IS pretty rad.
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>>78708209
>masculine magic

ermm... alchemy?
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How many of you guys actually read the entire issue and didn't just read the OP page?
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>>78708604
>satanism and paganism
you can always go to /x/ if you want to talk about this crap
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>>78708662
God forbid a discussion of a comic about witch craft involves discussing witchcraft.
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>>78708662
>lets not talk about witches while talking about a witch
SJWs truly have won
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>>78708536
But Orcs were superior to Elves.

Men inherit Middle Earth from Elves when they return to the islands in the west of Arda, Orcs inherit Middle Earth when man wipes itself out and goes to Eru (possibly). Dwarves don't have an end and remain eternally. The Wood Elves hide so far in the forest they drop from the sight of time.
Everyone just kind of forgets Hobbits exist.
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>a) men and women are equally capable of everything
>b) there are certain things men are better at
>c) there are certain things women are better at
I see a lot of C that both masquerades as A and is morally repulsed by B. THAT'S my problem. Especially in the "creative" community.
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>>78708757
My mugga.
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>>78708649
In this, we are all agreed.
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>>78706585
No, I'm pretty sure sjws have just taken over
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>>78707746

I never got why jack kirby find a gypsy jews to be worth a character background

Its the same with Doctor Doom every time I see him I'm like grossed out cause he's a filthy gypo, it takes away so much from his 'badassness"

Only American would find gypsy's to be sympathetic
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>>78708732
Yes. There are boards for that stuff.

>>78708757
There's nothing you can do. Get over that
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>>78708816
Get used to it. We aren't going back.
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>>78708776
Orcs were uglier, smellier Elves. How is that superior?
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>>78708586
Her mutant power was probability manipulation/hexes.

Learning Magic under Agatha was her shonen power up when they went to shit because of Chthon not a retcon replacing her mutant power.

She started off as a mutant and character/plot development lead her to becoming a actual witch as well as a mutant. Or do you think any time someone gets a new power it's a retcon?
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>>78708927
I think that once she became an Avenger, she never recovered.
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>>78708818
Why are gipsies bad?
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>>78708969
No one cares X-fag.
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>>78708969
Her not being a mutant anymore was the best thing that happened to her in the past ten years.
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>>78709010
>imblying
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>>78708604
>satanism and paganism and how much it was molded by the inquisition.

The actual Inquisition was concerned entirely with Christian heresies and the sincerity of Muslim and Jewish converts.
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>>78709010
He's not wrong, though.
She would be better among the more paranormal side of the marvel.
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>>78709063
Sure, because she won't end up in limbo.
But then again, marvel status quo never lasts.
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>>78709063
If that was the only way to get her away from Bendis, then fine.
Plus nows not a great time to be a mutant, and she just got out of comic limbo.
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>>78708870
Elves refused to industrialize and mankind was really really slow at it.

Mankind was basically struggling with the concept of gunpowder while Orcs had machinery and interchangeable parts.

Also remember the concept of Orcs being ugly, smelly monsters came from adaptations. In the source material they were just sweaty from labor, had diets largely consisting of meat and alcohol, were blackened by their machine work, and added spikes to things to show rank. Basically how Tolkien, scarred by WW1 and with his country being bombed as he was writing the trilogy, viewed Germans.

So your analogy falls apart since it relies on the idea that men are closer to God, destined to ascend to heaven as saints because they're too pure for this world and too retarded to adapt to it while women assemble massive armies, pioneer technologies, and make cannons modernize while men almost literally left in the stone age.

tl:dr you're saying being a woman is a superpower
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>>78709109
I think he means she would have been better off with X-men since before avengers that's where she was.

Marvel is putting her in paranormal now to help rebuild Mystic Marvel.
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>>78708116
>but a man would be ostracized from modern, polite society for even QUESTIONING whether or not men may be better suited for some tasks than women

For like the last 20-30 years out of several thousand
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>>78709097
There were also the Salem Witch Hunts, but that was more about limiting land ownership.
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>>78709178
Nature > Industrialization.
That's what women don't get. Living in harmony with nature is more satisfying than creating a world, where you are a slave to the corrupted system. But you should be happy. We live in a world where Orcs rule.
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http://scarletwitching.tumblr.com

Got posted last SW thread by someone else.

Has surprisingly good metas on Wanda and all her relationships.lots of love went into it.
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>>78709179
Which is too little and too late.
Now, imagine SW ongoing in 80s? Without Vision.
Yummy.
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>>78709230
>For like the last 20-30 years out of several thousand

Whats your point?
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>>78709277
>literally posting tumblr on /co/
why is that allowed again?
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>>78709279
DnA wrote a 90's Wanda solo.
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>>78709293
That he either knows shit, or tries to bait you

>>78709324
>4 issues mini-series
Should I give him a medal for that, or is cookie enough?
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>>78709313
Because everyone in the last thread agreed it was a great Wanda site.

Are you that afraid of tumblr?
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>>78709313
Because anyone can make a tumblr page, there is no agenda restriction to it. Don't be fully retarded.
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>>78709250
>Living in harmony with nature is more satisfying than creating a world, where you are a slave to the corrupted system

Getting your shit kicked in by wild animals, dying if something goes wrong giving birth, a broken leg equals a death sentence and getting simple cut can lead to a dangerous infection that could kill you without medical treatment is what the mother goddess wants.
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>>78709242
The Inquisition had nothing to do with the Salem Witch Hunts. Most of what we consider to be the result of the Inquisition was actually secular groups or Protestants.

The Salem Witch Hunts also had a host of factors surrounding them, many of which are debated to this day, but did have a heavy undercurrent of pre-existing grievances, legal disputes, and land appropriation.
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>>78709352
>him
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>>78709388
Yes.
Also, don't trust people who agree on posting anything from tumblr
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>>78709250
Elves weren't hugely in touch with nature, that's just a trope.

They were about refinement and faith.

An Orc acquires power. A man acquires power. An Elf simply has power, and neither seeks nor trusts it.
Orcs practice war, Elves practice song, man does both but clumsily.

Elves are eternal; all of creation is a reflection of God and Elves are part of his body. Men are part of God's spirit and thoughts, they simply appear in the world then disappear from it back into God himself as if they'd never existed. Orcs, originating as Elves, are also part of God but are a reflection of his strength, the muscles and sinew beneath the skin.
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>>78709313
Because this isn't your safe space where mean ol' tumblr can't get you?
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>>78709447
We all know that Abnett did shit. Look at his current Guardians.
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>>78706452
>Robinson will never be cool again

What happened to you James?
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>>78709421
>what is herbal medicine
>what are cute puppies
get a load of that steampunker

Harmony means that you know the opportunities, but also threats, and you learn to live with them. It's not a rocket science
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>>78709293
Meaning that because that poster has made sweeping generalisations about the entirety of human history, men must pay for grievances that's never happened to said poster.
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>>78709548
Purity is the only ideology for humanity's future, xenofucker.
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>>78709468
Fuck off with this propaganda.
Orcs do not originate from Elves, it's a revisionism bullshit. We all know that Orcs are actually a species related to Trolls
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>>78709498
>implying Lanning is any better
They're both meme-writers. At least Abnett can do future/space slang.
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>>78709577
I don't want to live in a convent.
I want to live with my breast full of clean air, and have wild orgies with booze.
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>>78709577
Piss off 40kfag, Elf-fucking resulted in the death of Slaanesh. Your faggot Emperor couldn't even survive his followers turning on him.
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>>78709548
Herbal medicine is not some fucking miracle cure straight outta nature.

>What are cute puppies

Livestock.
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>>78709622
>At least Abnett can do future/space slang.
>At least Abnett can do
>At least Abnett
>At least
>
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>>78707766

>It's reasonable considering women are less violent and a lot more cooperative than men.
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>>78709647
>2016
>eating things that poo, piss, and cum
very hygienic dude, verrry.
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>>78707809

>Darkseid
>A man

Nigga Darkseid IS
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>>78709688
It is hygienic. It is natural waste from our bodies and we want to natural don't we?
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>>78706452
Marvel is just the worst
DC is also shit
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I wouldn't care if men got their own magic as well
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>>78709594
Trolls were shaped from stone by Melkor, the embodiement of God's unpleasant emotions like Envy and Wrath, because he was pissed off that God's happy emotions had shaped Elves, Dwarves, and were getting ready to make men later on in history. Melkor later kidnapped some of the Elves and corrupted them into Orcs.

So in a way they're related, but only in a very vague way.

Then later on Melkor had a giant spider everyone was scared of eat most of the light in reality, and kidnapped a human shota to make his Greek friend. When Melkor was banished from the world, his shota pet became Sauron and tricked Atlantis into becoming Satanists so God would sink it as part of an elaborate trolling scheme.
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>>78709739
You do realize that we have something called mineral water to drink? Or berries to eat. Do you know how many dishes you can do with 2 berries? A lot.

Be alternative-man, not carnivore-man. The meat you eat and blood you drink is clouding your reason.
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>>78706452
Who approved this art? She's walleyed.
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>>78709632
I can't hear you over the sound of your whirring eggwhisk-dick, you Supremacist shiteater

Wrong franchise
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>>78709808
Wasn't Melkor that gifted musician that got butthurt that his hipster indie music sucked?
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>>78709816
>not drinking your own piss

By Gaia, I am SO much more natural than you will ever be.
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>>78709997
piss is overrated. get on with times, GRANDPA!
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>>78709468

What the fuck is this shit? Elves did some nasty blood thirsty shit in the first age and they were always war like and getting into everyone's business before the third age when they decided to pussy out and abandon Middle Earth
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>>78710235
They pussied out, because muh Orcs oppression!
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Rudy is next artist.
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>>78710265
yeah elf your priviledge
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>>78709878
Pretty much. In the beginning there was nothing but God, then God embodied all of his emptions as living beings, called angels or even gods later by mortals, and lead them to sing in a choir.

As they sang their melodies mixed, and Happiness singing with Bravery caused both to gain a bit of each other, basically giving emotions to his emotions until they were all people.

Melkor quickly became prideful and began singing his own song, confusing some of the others into singing with him. God kept trolling him by making him the dissonance to his harmony, the harmony to his dissonance, making Melkor's seperate song into a chord.

Then when the song ended he told them all to turn around. Their somg had created all things, from sky to earth. He told them to go down to the planet and shape it, and Melkor was a little shit who turned the calm oceans stormy, the tranquil Earth barren and volcanic, and the gentle breeze into a storm. Just as God planned.

They didn't know it, but their song was fate; everything that ever will happen in our concept of time is in the song. The exception is the creation of Dwarves, who were an accident that God added to the song later.
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>>78710382
I hope that you are not one of these Melkor's Witness sect? I like my ears and nose where they are.
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>>78710382

>Accident

Aule got the jump on Eru and Eru is a faggot for denying the first true born of Middle Earth. Elves a shit
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>>78710444
It was so long time ago, and you are still butthurt about that.
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>>78710539

Elves are fucking cowards. Go back to your fucking undying lands you hippie fucks
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>>78710444
Dwarves get to keep Middle Earth while Elves only get to visit.

The meek inherit the Earth, but not the mineral rights.
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I liked this book.

Also very hyped for the upcoming Kooky Quartet book.
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>>78710627
What's that? Someone farted here?
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>>78706452
The appearance of "reminder" in an Op comment is 95% indication of a shitpost. 100% for "Daily reminders". Adding the word to your filter list can only make your life better.
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>>78710646
please, don't shitpost here
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Everyone here knows the OP loves the book and is only shitposting as a experiment to stop this book from being cancelled early like Vision right?
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>>78710634
So this Tolkein's Universe right? Is this all in the Simarillion? Asking because I planned on rereading everthing.
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>>78710646
Kooky Quartet is getting a book!?
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>>78710877
The book is more or less confirmed cancelled.
Also, we are discussing the male magic vs vagina magic
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>>78710877
it's not a good book though.
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>>78710687
same goes for 'now that the dust has settled' and 'am I the only one'
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>>78710877
Well it caused a lot of bitching. So here's hoping he's right.
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>>78706964
>the big two

I love how you instantly try to deflect attention away from Marvel. That's a good Disney intern, you deserve a raise.
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So where does the "nearly destroying all mutants with a single sentence" thing work into Scarlet Witches new book?
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>>78706452
Wanda's battles with Chthon have a strong feminist undertone while being a compelling narrative.
Wanda could arguably fare better in the cheeky Elder God's pocket dimension than Strange (who got raped hard) given she has the in-built resistance that comes with having a fraction of his essence in her)

I hope Robinson has not ditched that in favour of some shallow.
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>>78711958
Not talking about it because Blackbolt is the new mutant genocide guy. And everyone's tired of it.
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>>78711995
(Continued) bit of pandering. Wanda does not need any of that, she has plenty as a character and needs no "diversity props".
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>>78710341
Based Rudy.
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>>78706889
I prefer Busiek.

> Dat benefactor is also your most dangerous enemy.
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>>78709313
>newfag doesn't know about /co/s recommendation tumblr.
tumblr isn't the enemy, redditors are.
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>>78708927
Chthon is awesome and her relationship with him has so much fucking dramatic potential yet that's been pissed away on nonsense like Disasssembled, HoM, UA etc.
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>>78709178
Looks like somebody read The Last Ringbearer!
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>>78710877
I never know anymore
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>>78706452
And if you don't like it, you can go watch anime!
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>>78712822
Or read better comics, of which there are many.

None of them at Marvel, mind, but still they exist.
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>>78707287
Chthon is one of the best Marvel villains by far, and has been criminally underused and was arguably as damaged by Bendis as Wanda.

If Chthon had been behind Disassembled and HoM they might have actually made sense. Fucking Bendis. Chthon's ommission was retard writing at its worst.
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>>78706491
Shut up Waid
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>>78712933

always time for someone to retcon it
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>>78709250
>That's what women don't get. Living in harmony with nature is more satisfying than creating a world, where you are a slave to the corrupted system

What? There's a whole ideology called ecofeminism that thinks creating a world is evidence of man's evil because it rapes Mother Nature just like men rape women.
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>>78707683
Sure, but it's a medieval civilization inferior to Man's World at everything, and every major technological advancement they have comes from either the gods or aliens.

Themyscira is literally a testament to the idea that women are useless and could never accomplish anything on their own. They still use fire for lighting.
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It's called witchcraft for a fucking reason. Jesus. You guys are gay.
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>>78713048
> Chthon will never turn Kitty Pryde into a retard and thus save the GotG from the Bendisfu.
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Some ship Wanda with Steve...some ship her with Stephen...I ship Wanda x Chthon. You know it makes sense.

She could mend his mean trolling ways, show him happy things he could show her his huge magiks, before you know it the Great Shadow will be known as the Great QT Husbando.
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>>78713259
It's witchcraft, not SJWitchcraft.
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She just invokes goddesses that like women
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>>78706452
>Marvel believes being a woman equals superpowers.
Don't you mean history?

Why do you think so many women had magic in stories throughout the world? Men were mighty with their hands and women with otherworldly powers.

Like for instance...Freyja, Goddess of Magic. (Odin's wife)

Hecate? Circe? Or ever heard of witches?

I'm all for people playing it cool and normal and not going nuts with GIRL POWAH but this stuff is supported by our real history and myths. Calling to the fact she's a witch when it's in her fucking NAME is hardly anything to lose your mind about.
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>>78710884
Yep.
Get a version that has the notes too, a lot is in his letters.
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>>78708491
>I didn't write greek literature or create norse mythology
>I'm not saying women deserve to be magical, its just that a bunch of witches are often women who refer to women shit

The problem is, in those mythologies witchery usually did not give you phenomenal cosmic power. Resorting to it was a sign of weakness, resorting to petty tricks because lack power to directly stab your opponent's in the face. When Loki said that Odin was participating in witch rituals during the bitchfit that led to Loki's imprisonment he meant that as one of the most scathing insults he could think of.
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>>78707766
>It's reasonable considering women are less violent and a lot more cooperative than men.

One look at any all-women environment, like women prisons, disproves that. There arguably might be less violence, but there is absolutely no cooperation. Women would literally rather suck dicks for five minutes of access to something normally not allowed by rules, like a mobile phone, rather than abstain from snitching on each other whenever one of them smuggles that thing in.
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>revered by pagans

Didn't "Pagans" use to sacrifice people to try and keep shit like this away, and have all sorts of rituals that would try and stop the Fae from fucking with them with their evil magic?
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le feminist scurge
/pol/ go to your containment board
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>>78717477
Odin was also the God of knowledge, wisdom, literacy, etc.
>men value study and intelligence
>women value magical hocus pocus
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>>78719572
Elves are wonderful. They provoke wonder.
Elves are marvelous. They cause marvels.
Elves are fantastic. They create fantasies.
Elves are glamorous. They project glamour.
Elves are enchanting. They weave enchantment.
Elves are terrific. They beget terror.
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>>78706452
Yet ANOTHER Hawkeye ripoff?
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>chaos means "lol all your crops failed and your cattle are dead enjoy starvation."
>LOL SILLY MENS FEARING CHAOS
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>>78706452
Just a reminder.

Marvel believes pandering to women, gays and people of color in a very blatant fashion will save them from the crash.
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>women are chaos incarnate

Yep, sounds about right.
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>>78719944
Doing good for them so far. Not like anyone here buys comics. They just bitch about them.
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>>78709499
Marvel happened. Got to toe the liberal line at the House of Mouse
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>>78720090
Kill the Mouse. Take his house.

Kill the Mouse. Take his house.

KILL THE MOUSE. TAKE HIS HOUSE.
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>>78720008
But Chthon is a Elder God Demon bloke and he loves chaos and fucking your shit up.
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>>78720126
Is it wrong I want a shirt of this?
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>>78712933
This. Allan Heinberg had a chance to retcon everything into being Chthon's fault. Hell, even Immortus would have made more sense, especially since it would have conected to Iron Lad.
Instead we got a confusing Life Force retcon and Doctor Doom was somehow behind it all and had Wanda prisoner for years, even those times where Doom wasn't in Castle Doom because he was in exile or imprisoned
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>>78706452
>dat feel when born too late to post all the pages of Marston's Wonder Woman that had WW outright state that women are superior to men mentally, morally and physically

rarestpepe.jpg
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>>78709550
No, Anon was saying, because some people who've been dead for a long time suffered, you should pay for their [dead people] suffering to them [People now] which you had no part of, because you have traits those people had.
But only if you're white. Not allowed to get Muslims to pay for oppressing women, heavily, to this day. Or other races for their violent pasts to other people.

Don't you see anon, were all the same and equal women and the colored people, sorry people of color, are just more equal than everyone else.
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>>78707766
>Less violent
>more cooperative

They can go ape shit on you and switch back to a professional victim within seconds.
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>>78713081
Fuck off white knight. We know who rapes mother nature, and it's not man
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>>78713259
it's called minecraft, you pleb
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>>78706452
>marvel

Not even surprised.
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>>78720018
Actually the opposite. check the numbers, sis
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>>78707978

Really rude to be honest.
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>>78706452
so only women can have magic powers in the marvel universe now?

wow that is the most sexist thing i have ever read in a comic.

well but it is sexism against men so it´s ok in the eyes of the liberal faggots that write and read comics
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>>78721064
You're clearly misunderstanding. Robinson is trying to make Witchcraft a distinct form of magic, not more powerful, just different
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>200 angry replies

Hope your book lasts, OP. You really love your waifu.
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>>78720445
> Wanda suffers personal tragedy loses self-confidence. At a low ebb, she is vulnerable.
> Chthon seizes the opportunity and slyly manipulates her while funnelling more power into her to tempt her.

Its kind of ridiculous Heinberg didn't see this logical storytelling avenue. He had an open goal to shoot down Bendis, and missed.
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Remember when Bendis accidentally retconned Chthon out of existince?
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>>78710877
It's a well established fact that the only way to have a discussion about anything anymore is to start a thread with a bait OP.
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>>78721525
I'll admit to being guilty of this. When I want a topic to be discussed I'll be sure to say things that I know will trigger certain people to ensure enough people will reply that at some point an actual discussion can be made.
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I dislike the faces but Pulido's upcoming issue looks great.
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Lotay
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Dillon
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>>78709808
>and kidnapped a human shota to make his Greek friend. When Melkor was banished from the world, his shota pet became Sauron
Sauron was a Maia.
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>>78719382
A hypocritical one at that, as Odin used all kinds of bullshit witchcraft.
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>>78708209
I don't know the specifics, but generally it involves feeding people your semen.
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>>78721635
>>78721624
I like how Dillon drew Wanda. I'm really surprised, I was expecting a Frankface.
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>>78724757
Yeah, he actually tried, maybe old Dillon is coming back.
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>>78721589
Isn't Tulaotay doing a issue as well?
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>>78721635
>zombie franks coming to assimilate Wanda
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>>78721613
>>78724879
Yes. Already posted a snippet of her Wanda.
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>>78707632
>That's bullshit. My eyes are fine.
Say what you want, Magneto really is her father
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>>78724922
I thought she was just doing a cover. I've heard different things from people.
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>>78719726
>6 hours and no one posted this yet
/co/... has changed.
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>>78719944
They were doing that in the 70's too. That's not a new thing unless you are 65+ years old to remember.
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>>78725062
I prefer this one.
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>>78725001
She's doing a whole issue.

Aja is doing all the covers.
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>>78721455
I think Brevoort may have said he opposed the Chthon-did-it explanation. I can't remember, but Chthon was brought up as a possible culprit in Children's Crusade 1, so it's not like they didn't remember him.

Writing off Disassembled/House of M as possession wouldn't have pleased Bendis or Brevoort because it would have invalidated those events completely.
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That doesn't invalidate anything. That just gives a better enemy.

Wanda had no agency in HoM or Dissembled. She was a plot device for others.

Chthon makes a whole Phoenix vs Elder God throw down in AvsX fight happen.
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>>78728680
I agree Wanda's characterization sucked in Disassembled/House of M but Bendis and Brevoort didn't care about that. They just needed a plot catalyst for their events and both events were massively successful.

The problem with Children's Crusade is it was trying to "fix" an event that was bad for a particular character but good for Marvel's bottom line. It's easier to retcon out an event that bombed, like the Crossing. With CC you could see Heinberg could only go so far and not step on the success of those events.

(Like bringing back Scott Lang - a pet character for both Heinberg and his pal Geoff Johns - in such a way that it didn't change what happened in Avengers Disassembled.)
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>>78706452
Is Scarlet Witch retarded or something? Both her and her brother's powers are a result of the High Evolutionary's experimentation. It is not some ancient bs that she claims it is.
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>>78706889
Having the origin of your power be from an ancient evil Elder God is significantly more awesome than feminist powers.
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that women, nature, pagan bullshit pisses me off. women were no more special in most pagan faiths than men, just different. sure they were closer to the goddesses in some, but the men were just close to the gods. christianity won because it supported a single ruler over a secular ruler and a bunch of high priests. dealing with a single unified religious power that would often work to facilitate and continue nobles was better than the more disorganized and often power hungry cults of pagan faiths. the mother goddess women are special bullshit is 70's hippie counter culture misrepresenting a facet of history.
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