>Don't like the Raimi movies because "much camp, much cheese, much wimpy, NOT MUH SPIDEY"
>Don't like the Webb movies because "much serious, much hipster, much cool, NOT MUH SPIDEY"
>Already preemptively hating the Jon Watts version because "much MCU, much quips, much teen, NOT MUH SPIDEY"
What do you guys actually want out of a Spider-Man movie?
>>78619585
The first 2 by Rami are great. The new guy sucked in all of them.
>>78619585
>Don't like the Raimi movies
>lying on the internet
Sounds like you need to go back to formula.
The cast from the webb films with a Raimi script.
>What do you guys actually want out of a Spider-Man movie?
Oh right, I thought you were saying these things as your own opinions at first.
Are you actually trying to find a person who legitimately thinks all 3 of these at the same time? Like /co/ is one person?
>>78619585
This image really shows how much better was Maguire's costume.
>>78619754
ASM2 had the best costume out of all the Spidey movies.
>>78619585
some aspects of each. it's not that hard. each one gets some things right and a lot of other things wrong.
>>78619585
i want the first dude to be peter parker, and the 2nd dude to be spiderman, with no effort to change either's voice
>>78619660
Raimi didn't write them, you know.
Well, we'll just have to wait until Civil War, won't we?
>There are people on /co/ right now who unironically believe Raimi's films were 10/10 adaptations of Spider-Man
I knew this board would go to shit some day.
>>78619585
>much quips, much teen, NOT MUH SPIDEY
Do you even know who Spidey is?
>>78620252
The first two were pretty good. Tobey was kind of more of a pussy than Peter should be but that's better than him being a hipster heart-throb.
>>78620217
Yup we'll finally get our accurate 15 year old school drama spiderman.
It's hilarious that only Disney knows how to do comic characters right, every other company only seems to be able to take hot piping shits on comics.
The first Spider-Man started this whole modern superhero craze. Without it we wouldn't have Iron Man or the Avengers or even Batman Begins. X-Men was the only successful superhero movie in the 90's and it was nowhere near as popular as Spider-Man.
>>78620330
I feel like they made a mistake of making him a pussy, instead of an angry nerd.
>a hipster heart-throb
Why did anyone at Sony think this was a good idea?
>>78620385
He was neither a hipster nor a heartthrob in-universe.
>>78620475
>cast Dwayne Johnson to play dweeby nerd
>Peter Dinklage and David Spade beat him up after school
>expect the audience to take this seriously
New Spider-Man is a hipster heartthrob.
>>78619660
But leave J.K. Simmons as JJJ of course.
>>78620217
Oh please have we seriously gotten to the point where every cape film pre-MCU is trash? Really?
>>78620371
Ehhh I don't know, I would argue that Blade was the Marvel film that gave studios faith in Marvel big budget Marvel films.
>>78620523
>Average clothing
>Normie as fuck music taste
>Can't get girls
>Skinny geek
>Stutter
Yeah, he was a counter-culture panty-dropper alright.
>>78620590
>Ehhh I don't know, I would argue that Blade was the Marvel film that gave studios faith in Marvel big budget Marvel films.
Maybe. Was that before X-Men? I feel like they were both considered semi-successful by the industry but nothing special. They may have paved the way, but Spider-Man was what really pushed it into the mainstream.
>>78620628
I wouldn't say he had average clothing. Certainly above-par.
He was also a genius, good looking, and a good skateboarder.
>>78620667
>good looking
>good Skateboarder
>looks like Taylor Lautner, but less Korean
sonyggers are truly the worst
>>78620653
Before.
>>78620667
>He was also a genius, good looking,
So basically Peter?
>>78621299
Comic Peter is in a weird level of attractiveness. He would basically go out of his way to look like a stereotypical dweeb before the spider bite. After that he looked a bit more casual, and started acting more confident.
I liked the first two Raimis
I still don't know how they fucked up with Venom though, I can only assume corporate meddling.
>>78619585
Anything but Garfield. I'd take Odie as a Spiderman before Garfield.
Also those Webb movies look cheap, have zero imagination invested, and are saddled with Garfield. And no JK Simmons. Fuck them, fuck them all.
>>78619585
I liked the Webb movies. Why don't people like the Webb movies?
>What do you guys actually want out of a Spider-Man movie?pizza time
>>78621623
>Executive Meddling
You're absolutely right, actually. That big hollywood fuck, Avi Arad, basically put forth a mandate to shoehorn Venom into the third movie.
Originally, Raimi only wanted to do Sandman, and explore Peters connection to him. The whole symbiote plotline was only there because the studio wanted it to be.
I'll tell them what I want when they FIX THIS DAMN DOOR!
>>78620361
I think they'll do a good job.
>>78620590
No, just saying that - it's in Marvel/Disney's hands now. No use crying and fighting about it.
>>78619585
Spider-man 2 is literally the best superhero movie ever made.
The scene where he tells Aunt May it's fault Ben died is easily the best directed, shot and acted scene in anything comic book related.
Dat horrified walk away, mang.
>>78619585
>What do you guys actually want out of a Spider-Man movie?
Clone Saga just because I think it would allow them to break from the formula of "guy becomes villain through science, Spidey is the only one who can stop him, huge battle in the streets of NYC"
I want to see something a little different. Not see somebody try to take the same shit we've seen and do a better job of it
>ASM 2 Suit
>Maguire Peter
>Rino Ramano Spider-Man
>Adapt the Death of Jean DeWolfe arc or Kravens Last Hunt
>Maguire sounds like Maguire when out of costume
>Ramano when masked
>>78621957
So, it would've been shit regardless?
The entire retcon was garbage.
>>78620590
>Blade
That thing was successful because most people thought it was an original story about vampires and didn't knew he was a comic book character at all, so the "ugh a super hero movie, that's for kids right?/it will suck" mindset didn't apply.
When X-Men and Spider-man went out everybody knew they were adaptations of a comic.
>>78619585
I think Rami found a balance of Seriousness/realism and cheese at least in the 1st 2 movies.
>he discovered that Spider-Man fans are as annoying as Batman fans
It only took you till 2016!
>>78619585
>>Don't like the Raimi movies because "much camp, much cheese, much wimpy, NOT MUH SPIDEY"
Raimi movies were GOAT, kill yourself faggot
>>78619585
cast from MCU spiderman, spiderman personality from ASM, and general plot from Raimi.
>>78619585
>much
Get the fuck on back to Reddit, cunt.
>>78619585
>Don't like the Raimi movies because "much camp, much cheese, much wimpy, NOT MUH SPIDEY"
Greentexting something doesn't make it true.
The general consensus, by far, is that the first two Raimi films were great and are the best Spidey films to date. The third one sucked, but even Raimi has admitted that he fucked it up. And even then, the third movie didn't suck for the reasons you mentioned.
Shit thread, OP. If you wanted to ask /co/ their opinion on what it would take to make a good Spidey film, just ask. You don't have to go and tell lies on the internet like that
>>78619695
This. Honestly I think the best Spider-Man movie was one of Raimi's, and the second-best was one of Webb's.
Both directed their respective entries just fine - it's the writing of certain movies that let them down.
>>78619585
>I don't like anything and nothing will satisfy me
Am I getting that right?
>>78621352
He dressed like a square right up until Romita started drawing him.
This was also the same time when Flash and Harry stopped giving him shit and a bunch of other things that fans bemoaned.
>>78619623
he was a worse peter parker, but he was an infinitely better spiderman. also he had web blasters like he was supposed to.
if it weren't for retreading his origin story, but with a shitty villain and literally doing the same mistake that 3 did (too many villains with no time to focus on each of them) I think people would've found him to be the definitive spidey.
now whether or not we'd be getting more movies with him is another story altogether. i heard he pissed off sony executives by not showing up to a dinner where they'd be announcing new movies for him.
>Spider-Man 2 is the best cape film
>Faggots still deny it
>>78619585
I want more Raimi Spider-Man with Tobey and Simmons and Dunst, that's it. No school boring flick like new MCU one.
The only people that hate the first 2 Raimi Spider films are MCU memetards.
The only problem with the first 2 Spider films is that the MJ of that universe is Kirsten Dunst, who isn't hot in the slightest sense of the word.
>>78621957
>You're absolutely right, actually. That big hollywood fuck, Avi Arad, basically put forth a mandate to shoehorn Venom into the third movie.
There's a great little comic, which I'm sure I have somewhere but can't find at the moment, that explain why this is a bullshit excuse.
>Originally, Raimi only wanted to do Sandman, and explore Peters connection to him. The whole symbiote plotline was only there because the studio wanted it to be.
No he wanted to use the Vulture as well as Sandman
>>78627788
>a better Spidey
So he's supposed to spout memes?
>>78627836
Superman 2 is better
>>78628946
yes, have you never read a spider-man comic?
>>78619585
>tfw MCU will never do a multiverse movie starring Tobey and/or Andrew as matured Spider-men guiding Tom.
Good or bad, seriously, just imagine the fucking reaction people would get if we saw an older Tobey Macguire in his spidey suit just popping up in the MCU.
>>78629232
>Tobey Macguire
Maguire** shit, always thought there was a "c" in there somewhere.
>>78619585
>>Don't like the Raimi movies because "much camp, much cheese, much wimpy, NOT MUH SPIDEY"
I don't like the Raimi movies because the actors/actresses couldn't do the campy and just made it cringy. Spider-Man SHOULD be campy.
>>78619585
>"Much cheese, much wimpyness"
What does this even mean? Either way memeing and green arrows aren't criticism reddit. The first two are great
>>78619585
>Don't like the Raimi movies because "much camp, much cheese, much wimpy, NOT MUH SPIDEY"
OP's first day browsing /co/
>>78627897
Dunst was the worst.
>>78620361
??????????????????
>>78621957
Except Raimi's first draft featured both Sandman and Vulture plus Harry becoming New Goblin.
>>78630323
I will always love you SPEC-TAC-ULAR SPIDER-MAN.;___;
>>78628526
I hate it because first Spider-Man movie was better.
Now what?
>>78627536
No, you should try reading it again.
>>78621849
They try to cram why too much into a short amount of time. It's kinda the same problem, to me, with MoS.
>>78628946
>spout memes
literally when?
>>78627788
>also he had web blasters like he was supposed to.
Retarded bullshit. Why would someone who is just super-strong call himself Spider-Man? He needs organic webs to make any sense.
>>78619585
Raimi had good peter and bad spider-man
Webb had bad peter and good spider-man
>>78619585
>much quips
>not muh Spidey
>>78620523
I would watch this as a spoof of movies like "she's all that"
>>78619585
>muh
>muh
>muh
>MUH
>MUH
>MUH
Is "MUH" the worst meme of all time? Faggots just use it without even considering its meaning. They think just randomly attaching it to words is an "argument".
>>78619585
I always think about the Spider-Man movies this way.
Raimi had the better Peter, but a worse Spidey
Webb had the better Spidey, but a worse Peter
>>78630323
What I loved about Spectacular is that it combines the 60s-70s writing in a modern day style and setting.
>>78631190
Because he does whatever a spider can, you dunce.
>>78619585
>raimi movies
1 - shit
2 - shit
3- shit
ASM 1 - good
ASM 2 - shit.
>>78619585
All those things are very Spidey though, not necessarily everyone's favorite version.
I like camp/cheese but I don't particularly like wimpy, at least not as wimpy as Maguire. Fuck he has such a punchable face, and I'm still mad Topher Grace wasn't Pete in the Raimi movies, he would have been a much better fit for the campy faux-60s style they went with, perfect Spidey voice too.
Garflied has a punchable face aswell and contrary to many people I didn't enjoy his quips. They were trying to be cool and failed instead of satisfying themselves of being cheesy. I'm not sure how much of that is on the writing and how much of that is on his voice, that I find annoying. All in all I couzldn't give a shit about whatever happened to him.
MCU we'll see. People complain for a variety of reasons outside of whatever the portrayal itself may end up being (Spidey overshadowing lesser known characters and stealing screentime, yet another reboot, companywar faggotry).
All in all I'll never be satisfied because Topher Grace will never play Spider-Man.
>>78619660
But most of the Raimi cast was great, it's just that those that were bad choices (Peter, MJ, Eddie, arguably Harry) get a lot of screentime.
>implying that's not pitch-perfect Aunt May and Uncle Ben
>>78632916
forgot pic
>>78621772
>I'd take Odie as a Spiderman before Garfield.
>>78621957
It's possible that without Avi Arad there's no Spider-Man movies altogether, and let's remember how succesful those were and how they paved the way for cape movies to come (back) in force.
Make of that what you will
>>78631190
Because he got bitten by a spider and can stick to walls.
>>78632902
>I didn't enjoy his quips
I agree, they were terrible.
Comics' Peter is enjoyable kind of obnoxious. Garfield's is plain obnoxious. The car thief scene is painful to watch because of him.
>>78632853
>your opinions
1 - okay
2 - good
3 - shit
ASM - meh
ASM 2 - shit
>>78628526
I think she's hot, she's just a terrible MJ.
>>78629305
>the actors/actresses couldn't do the campy and just made it cringy
Some (the Osborns, Aunt May and Uncle Ben, JJJ, Doc Ock) embraced the cheesiness just fine, but Maguire and Dunst sucked at it. And I'm sure Maguire was trying too, he's just not that good at it.
Webb only good when it comes to chemistry between two leads, especially on romance, and he nailed Spider-man's personality. But he's shit on directing action scenes
>>78632965
And that's another reason Topher Grace would have been a great Spidey, he makes bad jokes endearing. He's had years of playing a character whose whole schtick was "I'm a nerd who makes lame jokes, but aren't I cute" and selling it.
>>78632965
>The car thief scene is painful to watch because of him.
Uh, that scene was everything Spider-Man is...in the Raimi movies he never not once delivers a line that belittles or makes fun of the opponent
He says shit that any generic 60s era super hero would say, that isn't Spider-Man
>>78633064
>Uh, that scene was everything Spider-Man is
In theory yeah, but it was executed extremely poorly. I'm not enough of a cinema expert to understand why, but I didn't like it. These types of scenes in this movie make me want to punch Spidey in the mouth, and I'm not a Spider-Man villain so there's got to be something wrong here. Spider-Man being a dick is usually endearing to me, here it isn't, and I don't know why.
>He says shit that any generic 60s era super hero would say, that isn't Spider-Man
It's 60s Spider-Man.
>>78633097
>It's 60s Spider-Man.
So not the Spider-Man any of here grew up reading, great.
>These types of scenes in this movie make me want to punch Spidey in the mouth, and I'm not a Spider-Man villain so there's got to be something wrong here.
Well, had the opposite effect on me...so say la fricken' vee?
>>78633064
It sure didn't feel anything like it to me.
Spider-Man's quips always feel smug and kind of deadpan to me.
Garfield sounded less like that and more like an obnoxious loudmouth kid, hope that gets my point across.
I'm still not sure if it's the jokes themselves or Garfield's delivery but it was annoying. Not to mention it dragged on for too damn long.
>>78633138
So what you're saying is...
>TOO MEAN SPIRITED
>>78633163
Nice meme.
>TOO OBNOXIOUS
FTFY. Garfield has no understanding of comedic line delivery, so he's clowning around like an idiot thinking it would be funny, but it ends up being cringeworthy.
>>78633120
>So not the Spider-Man any of here grew up reading, great.
Plenty did. I did, and no, I'm not 50. In fact Lee and Ditko's run is often cited as one of the fan favorite versions. You know, among people who read comic books.
Oui, c'est la putain de vie, I guess.
>>78619585
I liked parts and aspects of both, but as wholes I loved neither. Spider-Man 2 is close though. I thought I'd hate Doc Ock, and still feel like I should, but I actually really liked him.
Honestly, I just want something closer to the Ultimate Spider-Man comics...
>>78633174
Hilarious. And when is Toby NOT cringeworthy period in the entire trilogy? And furthermore when does he ever act like Peter Parker or Spider-Man, and not just a stereotypical "geek" and "hero" which is what only casuals think Spider-Man is
>>78633178
>Plenty did. I did, and no, I'm not 50. In fact Lee and Ditko's run is often cited as one of the fan favorite versions. You know, among people who read comic books.
Parker was meaner in the older books than he is in newer ones anyway, he wasn't a sobbing dweeb he was a cynical fuck
>>78619585
Webpits
>>78633186
>talk about Garfield sucking as Spider-Man not even mentioning Maguire
>B-BUT TOBY MAGUIRE
Ok.
I want Miles. And not because MUH BLACK SPIDEY, but moreso because of his team's formation. That was such a great a natural progression of a group coming together with the Young Ultimates. Save for Kitty. That bitch had no right.
So I want Pete to have his 2 or 3 movies, but at the same time it would be cool if it lead to Miles getting his own trilogy or a NEtflix tie in series or ABC even. Fuck. I don't know.
>>78619585
i want:
This as the main theme of the movie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3jnXxIH_s4
First movie should not be the origin, we know what spidey does by now.
Have a cool enemy, not just rehash doc ock, lizard or goblin.
Keep the quips on point and Peter a loser (i.e he doesnt get the girl because he is a beta and we love watching him suffer)
You can only mention "great power, great responsibilyt" once.
Set up the story for the sequel(s) in the first movie so it flows like one movie when watched back-to-back
>>78633259
Kitty is shit, but I'd love to see this suit in live-action.
For no apparent reason.
>>78633194
I thought we were talking about Spider-Man in-costume. His putdowns were cheesy and not really effective.
>>78633260
That reminds me.
>MCU usually uses "dark mirror of a hero" as a main villain
C-can we finally get Scorpion? Please?
>>78633303
I like Kitty sometimes, just not on the Young Avengers team. She was actually pretty good as part of Pete's extended cast. To me anyways.
>>78619585
Much quips and much teen sounds exactly like spider-man.
>>78633314
You'll get Venom again and you'll like it.
>>78633314
Only if it's Ultimate Scorpion Clone Pete Scorpion
>>78632375
>MUH DISCUSSION
>>78630137
Dunst was actually hot in Spider-man 1. IDK what happened in SM2 and 3.
>>78633314
That's Venom's entire gimmick.
>>78633064
>in the Raimi movies he never not once delivers a line that belittles or makes fun of the opponent
Some retard posts this thread basically everyday, how do you miss that.
>>78633503
Gargan was there first and if we are to have MCU synergy, I'd rather see some writer (not Slott hopefully) to try to salvage him and finally destroy his status of a joke character.
He was at his best when he wasn't everyone's and their momma's punching bag.
>>78633314
My nigga
>>78633503
True, but Scorpion did it first and it would make sense to have him rather than venom in the first movies. Literally created to be the bigger, badder, arachnid themed dude. Beat the shit out of Peter and started robbing banks (using his greater powers irresponsibly).
>>78633259
Miles and Gwen were a mistake.
What a tumblr pandering bad decision
>>78633600
forgot pic
>>78627788
>bring a beard to a premiere
>also grow some facial hair
>also take a shit on Sony execs and snub them
The guy was asking to get fired.
>>78633565
>>78633600
Yeah, but Scorpion is just another bank robber. His character is kind of one note, and he's always been a B-lister. Venom's connection to Spider-man is much more personal and works better as the evil counterpart.
>>78633623
>tfw Scorpion will never be a threat again
>>78633632
>one note
That describes a majority of MCU villains. Besides, no one is stopping anyone from updating his character.
Wasting Venom on a first film is just not fun anyway.
>>78633632
But Scorpion was Venom. Checkmate, atheists
6 SPIDER-MAN FILMS
>replace Venom with Scorpion, add Vulture arc like planned, pls no that awful New Goblin suit but instead just Garry trying out to ride that glider and failling hard
>Spider-Man 4 is all about Spidey making a fabric black suit, happy life with MJ, main villian is Hobgoblin, film is very grimdark yet has lot of colors and feels like 80s sometimes
>Spider-Man 5 is all about dat Mysterio epic everyone long awaited, plus Ben Reily (three Spideys, classic "who is who" situation) and Jackal who acts almost off-screen
>and finally Spider-Man 6 where our hero mutates into a Man-Spider, full Kraven arc, also Shocker cameo where he just robs shit and gets away with it
THE SPIDER-MAN SAGA
>>78632902
why wasnt he scarlet spider..
>>78633565
He's been popping up a lot in Spider-Man 2099.
>>78633310
What? Are you seriously calling Spideys lines in ASM cheesey in comparison to Raimi's trilogy? You're OUT OF YOUR MIND
>>78633516
That's one good line in three movies...
>>78633684
Venom should not be used in the first movie, hell he shouldn't be used for many movies in...but let's HOPE now that MCU has interesting villains to work with they don't make them throw aways, even with c listers like Scorpion who could be really cool if done right.
But who are we kidding, that won't happen
>>78633954
ASM's lines are too cringey
>>78619585
SM 1 was the best one to me. It kept the general tone of a Spider-Man comic in its prime, and felt like genuine love went into the movie.
Sam 2 was fantastic, and though Doc Ock wasn't exactly himself, he felt like a really good amalgamation of Peter's rogues, making him really memorable. Fantastic fights, though Spidey not one shotting Otto was weird to me. Also MJ is a bit cunty. Still, there was a lot of heart and effort in the film, and it hits every note it aims for in spades. Overall one of the best superhero movies.
SM 3 isn't awful, just really disappointing. Sandman's connection to Peter was infuriating, and Venom was lazy. MJ went full bitch. James Franco did great, but his costume was shit tier. Thomas Hayden Church was perfect casting, but Marko was wasted completely. It felt like a good movie was trying to break free, but couldn't due to executive meddling.
ASM was literally SM 1, but far more soulless and calculated. It did nothing original, and took the endearing aspects of SM 1 and made it milk toast. This Peter was way more unlikable, and in general his switch to heroism felt like the plot demanded it. The villain was GG again, but with far less charisma or memorable lines. It just felt like a combination of laziness and pandering to the lowest common denominator.
I have not seen ASM 2, and I don't plan on doing it. It just sounds like a disaster, and the first one was awful imo.
I think that if Sony/Marvel is going to do more Peter, keep him animated only for a while (which we know they aren't). The movies have hardly tapped into all of the solo stories you can tell, and they need to go that route and stop retreading old ground. I love the Goblins, but let's see some Mysterio, Scorpion, Crime Master, Vulture, Black Tarantula, Kraven, Hammerhead, Molten Man, Shocker, Silvermane, Beetle, and all the other cool villains that haven't been touched.
>>78634042
*SM
Dumb phone
>>78634051
>Sam Raimi was fantastic
ftfy senpai
Sandman was pretty good. Basically one of the main reasons I love SM3.
>>78633684
>You will never get a big budget rooftop fight between Spider-Man and Scorpion beating each other senseless.
Fuck Millar and fuck Slott. There was 0 reasoning to make Scorpion a low level villain. He literally spent 20 years being a major threat. Even Hammer had to send an army of supervillains against Mac.
>>78633971
>ASM's lines are too cringey
You really can't say which or how, you just can't or you don't know the definition of cringe
>AUNT MAY, IS SHE AN ANGEL
That is cringe
>>78634042
>ASM was literally SM 1,
No, ASM2 was closer to it if anything
>but far more soulless and calculated.
In both cases, no...
>It did nothing original, and took the endearing aspects of SM 1 and made it milk toast.
Uh it did a lot original, which I might add wasn't exactly a good thing...one of the major problems with the ASM movies was making the plot way too convoluted when it doesn't need to
>This Peter was way more unlikable
No, he was better. Peter is supposed to be a dick, if you don't get that you don't know Spider-Man
When it comes down to it, Spider-Man 1-2 felt decently planned out, 3 felt like it was a bit rushed but even still just to round things out lets say 1-3.
That is literally all it has going for it, Parker didn't seem like Parker, Spider-Man didn't seem like Spider-Man, the dialogue was awful, the action scenes were beyond awful, the villains were cartoon characters
Now...as for ASM, these two films were horribly put together...they crammed way too much shit in that never needed to be there and in doing such they ended up not being that good of movies...but even so, they got things the former didn't....Spider-Man finally felt like Spider-Man, the romance and character interaction (mostly) was believable, and the action scenes and movements of Spider-Man mirrored those we see in the comic books.
>>78634042
>It did nothing original
Right, and when it tried to be original it felt more like an awkward attempt at distancing itself from Raimi's movies and other adaptations, prime example being uncle Ben dying in front of a random grocery store because Peter wanted chocolate milk and the thief clumsily dropped his gun
>>78634091
one of the times comic accuracy should be ignored....
they can't give cap wings on his head, but they can put a guy dressed like that in the 00s?
>>78634159
ASM wasn't like 60's run at all, stop kidding yourself.
>>78634137
Scorp at his worst is mid tier. I mean what exactly makes him "low level"? I mean if you need a villain for Pete to shit on he's got a plethora of those.
>>78634160
Or trying to avoid the line "With Great power comes great responsibility".
>>78633492
Drugs are a helluva drug
>>78634170
It's a fucking shirt
>alfred molina
>willem dafriend
>j k simmons
>bonesaw
Raimi spiders had best supporting cast
>>78634182
Nothing is like the 60's anymore and for good reason.
And Raimi's films weren't like them either aside from the goofy overall feeling so stop using that excuse for "camp" being ok.
Can Scorpion jump? How high? Too me he seems kinda limited to be a threat to Spidey. How agile is his tail? Or himself?
That Smythe's costume was menacing, but in his original he doesn't seem that much. And I don't mean just looks.
Is he even strong to throw a car with his tail or something?
>>78634207
nobody has worn a shirt like that, tucked a shirt like that in, a belt like that, or brown denim since the 60s
that film doesn't take place then
>>78634237
Scorpion is technically stronger than Spider-Man....Gargan is just a fucking loser so he always well, loses
>>78634232
Lee also didn't write Spidey to be gritty and ****realistic****
>>78634255
>>78634091
It's his iconic look, faggot
It's just a stripped shirt and some chinos.
>>78634265
>Scorpion is technically stronger than Spider-Man....Gargan is just a fucking loser so he always well, loses
So...every Spider-man villain?
>>78634237
Think Spider-Man +10, with a strong fast tail that shatters concrete like it's nothing
>>78634275
>So...every Spider-man villain?
No, while every Spidey villain loses in the end because of plot...Gargan is legitimately played out to be a joke most times he shows up
>>78634268
>It's his iconic look, faggot
And it shouldn't be put into modern movies, it works in cartoons and comics, don't put it in movies because it's visually jarring and looks out of place.
>>78634268
>Lee also didn't write Spidey to be gritty and ****realistic****
Who said anything about that? ASM wasn't gritty or realistic in any way, it would be impossible to make Spider-Man gritty and realistic...
>>78634189
>Or trying to avoid the line "With Great power comes great responsibility".
I completely forgot that, damn retards
>>78619585
Nice bait mate, we do like the Raimi movies.
>>78634322
>And it shouldn't be put into modern movies, it works in cartoons and comics, don't put it in movies because it's visually jarring and looks out of place.
This, i can understand people having powers and shit, but a guy with a striped t-shirt, tucked even? What is this, the [years before i was born] ??? Fucking granpas shoehorning their outdated style in muh movie
>>78634346
Would you like a v-neck and hipster haircut and a much younger Sandman say late 20s or something?
>>78634346
Lol, it looks out of place. It just does...it's not the shirt it's the whole outfit, nobody has tucked their shirt in (t shirt) since the late 80s early 90s, and nobody has worn that kind of shirt, belt, or pants since decades before that
If the whole movie was a period piece it'd look normal but it looks fucking stupid when every other character around him wears modern fashion and he isn't even that old
That faggot spams this anti-Raimi threads everyday, christ
>>78634381
No you yourself just haven't seen people do it so of course it doesn't exist
>>78634255
This is some next tier autism.
If you think an odd choice in clothing is what makes a film that features a bloke who can crawl up walls and shoot webs from his wrists unrealistic then you need to sort out your suspension of belief mate.
>>78634326
damage control
>>78634418
>defending ASM
damage control
>>78634363
Yes, and during most of the movie he has to complain and blog about how sand sucks and feels too '80s and then when he finally transforms he realizes the sand was him the whole time
I have just the perfect casting in mind too
>>78634418
The level of damage control the last couple of days is ridiculously funny desu. I'm pretty sure it's one guy.
>>78634159
>>78634160
funny how only one thing from here was challenged among a whole bunch of legit complaints
>>78634440
You mean one guy creating anti-Raimi threads?
>>78634381
It really isn't that jarring. I've never noticed his clothing seems anachronistic before and neither has anyone else I've come across you contrain fuck.
>>78634461
The one guy who keeps trying to force the raimi meme ,more like
>>78634488
>"raimi "meme""
Confirmed underage. Get out kid.
>>78634480
>you contrain fuck.
>contrain fuck
>contrain
>>78634499
>Confirmed underage. Get out kid.
Lol son how delusional are you...underaged people are the only ones who like that horse shit. It was a travesty to us who actually grew up reading Spider-Man in the 80's and 90's. Only 00's babies like Raimi's movies
>>78634518
You've only read Ultimate Spidey, haven't you kid? It shows
>>78634533
Uh...alright. Says the guy that is defending organic webs and OC Peter.
>>78619660
Andrew is way too old, i kinda saw his old age on that movie
>>78633314
That's the rumor.
>>78619585
The first 2 Raimi Spider-Man movies were okay.
The Webb Spider-Man movies were okay.
I'm getting sick of seeing spider-origins, and chumpy amateur spidey.
Hopeful for the MCU take; I like Spidey as an avenger.
I'd love a Spidey movie that follows a good plot from the comics, and include any backstory as a short exposition at the beginning.
Really though; standalone Spidey makes for better TV than movies. I could go for MCU Spidey like they've done with Jessica Jones and Daredevil.
>>78619585
Look, all I want is to open the movie with Spidey on the run with his suit torn to hell and his shit clearly pushed in by some unseen mystery villain still in hot pursuit, then flashback to the generic eye rolling Spider-man origin story for the n-teenth time but with this weird ocassionally creepy vouyeristic camerawork and then as we jump between flashback and Spidey on the run it goes all Memento until it becomes clear that the person watching Spider-man wasn't just the camera guy but an actual character and it was Spider-man and then we see Spider-man catch up with Spider-man and get into a fight just before Spider-man shows up to stop them. Then we get one last flashback tying everything together where Spider-man was really Kain and Spider-man was Peter but Spider-man was Ben Rilely. and then we start a whole Scarlet Spider series and don't fucking touch Spider-man again in film for like 10 years. That's all I want.
>>78633259
Unless you also want Kaine or Miguel, you have shit taste anon.
>>78629232
>>78629259
I'd be pretty hype, though I don't see it happening.
>>78633492
If it helps, she forgot to wear a bra for SM2 and 3.
I actually liked all of the Spider-Man movies, but ASM2 and SM3 were some of the weakest movies.I'm looking forward to the MCU Spider-Man. I think the Breakfast Club feel they're going for with high school Pete is going to be fun.
>>78619585
A continuation of Amazing Spiderman with Andrew Garfield cause I liked those movies.
You Raimifags can suck my dick, those movies are near unwatchable.
>>78632989
This. It's seriously hard to like a film when the protagonist is incredibly cringey and unlikeable.
>>78634410
Let's just have women in kimonos churn butter in the background of New York then, since we're throwing realism out the window because MUH SUPERPOWERS.
>>78619585
Just Japanese Spider-Man. He's the only true Spider-Man.
>he's too attractive to be Peter
Are we talking about the same guy who managed to attract a literal supermodel, the queen bee of his high school, and a thief who could moonlight as a $10,000 a night escort?
>>78638787
Peter as a character is a paradox. He is simultaneously an awkward geeky teenager with pimples and premature ejaculation, as he is a cool and good looking Chad with the entire Marvel female cast lusting for his dick.
So it's only natural that some fans sees him as the geek, while other sees him as the Chad. And I seriously doubt you can make both fan bases happy with a film that's ~2 hours long.
>>78619585
I liked the first two Raimi ones.
Didn't like Webb because why the hell did the feel the need to do a reboot and give us yet another origin story?
MCU is hit or miss. Whedon's out and never coming back, so hopefully we won't see anyhing as bad as AOU again.
>>78633954
>Are you seriously calling Spideys lines in ASM cheesey in comparison to Raimi's trilogy?
No.
I'm saying SM's "putdowns" during fights were cheesy and uneffective, like early Spidey. I didn't like ASM's quips, again I'm not sure why.
>>78638969
I don't see him as either...he's not a geek stereotype nor is he a natural born ladies man like Stark or Wayne, he's a normal kid...NORMAL...who happens to be very smary, why is it so hard for people to understand you can be intelligent without being a total geekazoid with a pocket protector? Or that you can be smart and also pretty average?
>>78620385
>Why did anyone at Sony think this was a good idea?
They probably looked at his stats and realized that autistic nerd Peter made no sense with that in mind.
Peter had at least six girlfriends. Not Spider-man, Peter. Raimi's Spaghetti-man doesn't even seem like he could net one.
>>78634042
>keep him animated only for a while
Do you mean keep Spidey masked for as long as possible? Because I honestly don't care about Pete half as much as I care about Spidey, and the previous movies spent too much time trying to make me care about that dickish dweeb.
>>78639085
And you are right. While there still is a billion comics that proves you wrong.
Reminder that if you hate the Amazing movies you're agreeing with Moviebob.
>>78634170
>>78634255
NIgga it's just a striped shirt, the rest looks normal as fuck.
>>78634159
>the dialogue was awful, the villains were cartoon characters
Just like Stan Lee then.
>>78622231
>Anything comic book related
You mean anything cape related, my pleb
>>78634232
>for good reason.
What's that? Your shit taste?
>>78634275
Like 80% are supposedly physically weaker than him. Fuck isn't Kraven just a very skilled base human?
I'd like to see a Spider-Man tv show along with the movie trilogy. That way, it could show villains and plotlines that the movies couldn't fit in. If all the actors from the movies can't be in the show, then they should just make it animated, but still canon to the MCU.
>>78634381
>nobody has tucked their shirt in (t shirt) since the late 80s early 90s, and nobody has worn that kind of shirt, belt, or pants since decades before that
But all that is wrong.
>>78639171
I can't think of any comics where Pete is as big of a pussy as Toby is..
Post some
>>78639032
Because in their conception Spider-Man is a teen hero and Maguire got old.
>>78639176
Reminder that by knowing who Moviebobb is, you're even more of a faggot than me.
>>78630323
why does disney always shit on good superhero cartoons
>>78638391
You ready for your first day back at school tomorrow?
>>78619585
Raimi with a better Peter.
Garfield's with better writing.
>>78639526
Peter hasn't been in high school since the 60s and he graduated college in the 70s
>>78634381
I saw those pants in a shop the other day.
I've seen people under the age of 30 wearing pants like that in the past 4 months.
I've seen belts like that in shops, and my housemates have some.
The shirt's fine.
The only thing I agree with is the tucked in shirt part.
>>78634665
I thought Kraven with background Norman was the rumour?
>>78619585
Complain.
The only thing this morons want is to complain.
It could be a frame by frame adaptation of the best spidey arc, or getting a bloody comicbook writer to do it, and the manchildren in this board will cry and bitch about any small thing.
