Is anyone else fed up with video games being stuck in 80s in every single cartoon?
Oh no, arcade games in an arcade. Those bastards.
>>78537423
Are you kidding? I'd love arcades to be everywhere again.
You know why arcades died out? Because parents got paranoid when their kids were left alone.
You'd think at this point characters would graduate to playing at least Doom.
>>78537501
It was because consoles and PC gaming got better and more affordable.
>>78537423
I'm tired of 80s-90s nostalgia in general, but because the creators of these shows grew up in those times, we'll probably have to wait a while until we get the next generation of animators, who'll just end up having nostalgia for later decades.
>>78537423
Yes. Regular Show is the fucking worst for this crap.
Still better than LOL ANIME REFERENCES
>>78537423
not really, arcade games are best so fuck off
>>78537567
>Nostalgia for 00's and 10's
You really want that? You really want peope to reminisce about Lady gaga and Obama?
>>78537501
>tfw no big arcades in my area anymore
>>78537614
people are reminiscing about george w bush
its inevitable
Do any non-Asian countries even have arcades anymore?
>>78537651
Not because of him, but because 9/11 was the last bug defining event in American history.
And don't say "muh first black president". Obama's novelty wore off after a week. The last 15 years have been so stagnant that there won't be anything to be nostalgic about.
The latest issue of the Zim comic parodied a lot of current games and it dd rather well
>>78537423
It makes sense for arcade games.
Arcades largely died off after the early 2000s. Most arcade games were still mostly 2D.
>>78537793
>>78537501
Arcades died because of the Sega Dreamcast.
When a majority of your titles are straight up arcade ports, no one goes to the arcades anymore.
Which is doubly sad, because Sega made a lot of arcades/arcade cabinets, and essentially killed their own market.
People should take off their rose tinted goggles when it comes to the Dreamcast. It fucked a lot of shit up.
>>78537795
I still see Time Crisis and some racing game with USA on the title in some arcades.
>>78537793
>First panel
I don't understand
>>78537843
>Call of Duty
>Doody
>Poop
>>78537806
>pigboy as a pig
simple but made me kek
>>78537843
Dib was digitalized and forced to be a sentient model in different games, Gaz got Gir to play those games and torture Dib
>>78537856
Juvenile scatological humour I understand, what is that gameplay mechanic they are parodying.
>>78537423
It's better than when they were stuck in the 70s. At least now the shows can have jokes that go beyond the shapes of the sprite and the name of the game.
The sheer number of skin-deep gags is obnoxious, but that's just because there's more people in general, and more shows being made. In about 20 years, there's going to be heavy nostalgia for this decade's games, and the number of empty references will increase exponentially.
>>78537795
I can't think of any classic arcade games that came out after the 90's.
There was no point as consoles took over from there.
>>78537473
It's always 8-bit or 16-bit games
>>78537919
>this decade's games
Angry Birds and Call of Duty. Fantastic.
>>78537964
In a 2d cartoon you expect them to animate 3-d models for background gags?
>>78537919
Can't wait for when I'm old and watching ebin Fallout 4 homages.
>>78537806
Shit forgot a page
>>78537828
>Arcades died because of the Sega Dreamcast
Did anyone outside of a small minority actually own one of those?
I mean, I partly agree. Although it wasn't just the Dreamcast that killed it off. Console gaming getting bigger as a whole is probably what lead to its demise.
>>78537979
>>78538129
This decade is full of casuals who will be nostalgic for casual shit.
>>78537727
You're fucking stupid if you believe that. So, SO much has changed in 15 years. At least as much as from 1960 to 1975.
>>78538042
>Did anyone outside of a small minority actually own one of those?
Do you live in some BR country or something?
Dreamcast sold over 10 Million units. They were not a small minority.
>>78538161
Like what?
The last 15 years have been a period of stagnation.
I think a large part of it is just people who make cartoons for a living not playing that many video games for whatever reason.
Justin Roiland and Dan Harmon both play tons of current games, but I'm glad they don't really reference them in their work because it would come off as very pandering.
>>78537999
Well, the shoot-em-ups will most likely be pastiches of the Cave games that got more popular ports recently...and Ikaruga. Not really sure if that's an upside or not, but it's something.
>>78537423
But Alex was a preschooler when the 80s ended. He even couldn't be nostalgic for that decade.
>>78538187
Bruh, you already know it's gonna be some screed about civil rights, don't drag it out.
>>78538187
Come now, 2000 and 2015 are very different from each other.
>>78538265
Beside a resurgence of obnoxious and invasive political correctness, how are they different?
Has anyone considered its just easier to draw them that way?
>>78537423
Well, if games move past that they'll look more realistic than the cartoon itself, which just wouldn't look good.
>>78538279
Completely different stage in history. A lot of the things we take for granted now like smart phones, Internet that's actually useful for something, MP3 players, streaming didn't exist or were in their infancy. The pop culture was different as well, still operated on a 20th century model. The politics are totally different as well - 2000 was before 9/11 happened.
>>78538377
>vague generalities and pop cultural mishmash
So substantively, nothing changed.
>>78538187
The first iPhone came out only 8 years ago. Think about how much smartphones have infiltrated our daily lives on a global scale since then, and the related industries and lingo that they've spawned.
15 years ago there was no YouTube, Netflix, Wikipedia, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, 4chan, Tumblr, Snapchat, etc. These are all now essential parts of the cutural zeitgeist and most millenials more-or-less base their lives around them.
The aesthetic of advertisements and products has totally changed.
The big thing that hasn't changed all that much is fashion, and that's because this globalized world we now live in no longer allows for the creation of isolated scenes.
>>78537828
What ?
Bro. Arcades were dead long before the Dreamcast.
The only way they exist now is through ticket machines at Chunky Cheeze and D&B
Why don't you blame portable gaming ?
>>78538406
just the speed we consume media is vastly faster things had a longer appeal prior to the internet now something new appears and it's old in minutes instead of weeks or months as in the past
>>78538427
But the overculture has largely remained the same.
Stagnation has set in because the same six companies control all media.
>>78538481
That makes sense.
>>78538427
>The big thing that hasn't changed all that much is fashion, and that's because this globalized world we now live in no longer allows for the creation of isolated scenes.
It never really was; every culture always had certain standardized outfits everyone wore. For example everyone in Western countries in the 1700s wore tricorner hats and breeches, 1800s stovepipe hats, etc, etc.
>>78537423
>In an arcade
>"where's muh gaystation and xbones"
retard
>>78538502
>Stagnation has set in because the same six companies control all media.
Was that not true in the 1950s, 60s, 70s, and 80s?
its because the people making cartoons right now grew up in the 80s/90s
give it time and soon cartoons will be full of halo and sonic adventure 2 parodies
>>78538528
Not to the extent it is now. And it only really started to become a concern in the 70's.
>>78537501
Consoles killed arcades. Video killed the radio star.
>>78538569
Oh boy are you wrong. Back then it was 1000x worse because no Internet meant that the only source for electronic news, info, and entertainment were the big three networks. an entire generation of Americans were lobotomized by Walter Cronkite.
>>78538658
The internet is not exempt from this mass media convergence.
Most blogs and whatever just repeat the party line.
>>78538427
There's some notable changes in fashion, too, such as women commonly wearing yoga pants as day to day leggings and keffiyehs. The way hipsters dress is also a noticeable trend of fashion during this period.
>>78538427
>The aesthetic of advertisements and products has totally changed.
Instinctively I don't really feel like this is true. For the former, yes I have noticed some new trends, but that's mostly just swapping one new style with another just like they've always done, and the old ways are still visible. Aesthetic of products have changed somewhat, but I don't think it amounts to a total change.
>>78537793
>Dank Souls
>>78538711
So fashion is the same, but sloppier.
The classics of fashion still hold true, so I see no need to closely follow fads. Nice jeans, collard shirt, optional tie, and a sport coat is still a great combo and won't be going away anytime soon.
>>78538241
80's nostalgia was big in the early 00's
>>78537979
More like Minecraft nostalgia.
Seriously, that game's success is tremendous.
>>78537501
>You know why arcades died out? Because parents got paranoid when their kids were left alone.
That's wrong, though.
>>78538850
But that wasn't people his age wanking over the 80s. Those were people 10-20 years older than him.
>>78537501
>You know why arcades died out? Because parents got paranoid when their kids were left alone.
That's completely and totally wrong. They died because of console and pc gaming and people stopped going. It sucks because I still went to arcades right up until the end. They were really fun places.
>>78538926
I still see those Ms. Pacman/Galaga combo machines everywhere, so a small spark remains.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H9GpAmKJ0Q
Commercials from 2000. Come on, you can see how dated these look by now.
>>78538972
Yeah, but those times where 4 people are simultaneously playing gauntlet legends or golden axe, or you have a bunch of people crowded around some 2d fighting game and people are taking turns are long behind.
>>78538972
The easy to pick up games are still a draw when right there and convenient. But the days of people going to arcades for games consoles couldn't handle are over.
>>78538161
And most of that stuff happened because of 911. It changed everything. Technology is better but everything else sucks.
>>78537423
That's one of the reasons why I like We Bare Bears. It's very contemporary.
>>78538746
Similar, not the same. I've also noticed that guys drooping their pants isn't as common as it used to be, at least not in my area.
Old video games had a more distinct look to them due to hardware limitations, so they're almost always used as visual shorthand.
>>78538167
No, I lived in America, and I can only ever recall one kid having a dreamcast, while everyone else either had a Playstation or an N64.
Admittedly, I exaggerated the "small minority" bit, but both the N64 and the Playstation clocked in over 20+ Million sold in America alone. So I'd imagine that they'd be far more prevalent than the Dreamcast.
>>78539096
yeah that. same reason gramophones, boomboxes, and those bell alarm clocks still exist in cartoons. they're big, distinct, and broadcast their purpose clearly. as long as the show isn't trying to do modern video game commentary, 8-bit is a better way to communicate "video game".
>>78542387
meant for >>78540131
>>78537423
>cartoon shows characters playing video game
>it has modern graphics, orchestrated soundtrack, etc
>the producers created 30 seconds of game footage to show on a tv playing in the background
>show gets cancelled because that's what they spent the entire budget on
this is why games are stuck in the 80's in cartoons, anon
>>78539096
I fucking HATE that about it. I don't want to see a cartoon character worry about their social status on Facebook, holy fuck how is that entertaining. Guess I'm old.
>>78537664
Yeah. In the US you can find an arcade in nearly any large hotel, movie theater, or amusement park.
>>78540131
this guy gets it
>>78542453
You don't know any social media junkies or people who don't have much going on irl so they value online interactions? The show mostly wants you to laugh at them for carrying about things like that, not to emotionally invest yourself in a character's rapidly declining number of Facebook friends.
>>78542528
Haven't seen an arcade in a hotel in some time, but I'll vouch for you on the other two.
Sadly modern movie theater arcades are usually a crane game, an airhockey table, and if you're lucky, a pinball machine. Around here anyways.
>these plebs don't have local arcades in their malls
Plebs, or you live in the middle of nowhere.
I'm going to the arcade to playInitial Dright now.
>>78537614
>years from now, cartoons will have Pewdiepie and Markiplier references
>>78542987
Why would you tell me this?
>>78537423
People about our age or a bit older are animating now. So we get 80's and early 90's stuff. Imagine the awful bullshit late 90's and 00's pop trends we're going to get when the underage b&s grow up and start animating.
>>78537806
what's wrong with the resolution Buckley? The fonts are clear as rain, but they're superimposed on an upscaled pixelated image.
>>78537995
Why not?
>>78537423
Well I am also upset about every theater play in cartoons being stuck at high school level and only doing Shakespeare. But that's what happens when you don't care about the content and only stick to simple representations.
>>78538265
Yeah, we got a financial crisis now.
>>78538711
It barely changed if you compare it to previous decades.
>>78538481
That's also how things have changed. there's so many tools for the every day person to get work out there.
Drawings on Deviant art or tumblr or even 4 chan.
Lets players on sites like Twitch, hitbox (lol) and youtube
new tools like Garrys mod or Source film maker.
tutorials on how to do just about any conceivable topic you can think of.
WHoever says the world is boring or has stagnated is one of two thing.
1: they mean there's nothing they like being made
2: they've had their head under a rock.
>>78537828
>>78537561
>>78538604
>>78538906
>>78538926
Arcade Master Race here.
This guy: >>78537501 is partially right. Inner city arcades in the 90s were DANGEROUS. To the point where kids couldn't go in them.
Consoles surpassing arcades in technology was a factor, but far from the main reason.
Biggest reason by far was that property tax, property value, and manufacturing costs all went through the roof over time to the point where the expenses of running an arcade eventually outpaced the revenue. When that tipping point was reached (around 1994-ish IIRC) the arcade business began to nosedive and a lot of places went out of business until we were at where we are now where there are none left except a handful of what are essentially novelty stores selling retro nostalgia.
>>78538926
There's a potential niche for a resurgence of arcades in VR technology. Decent VR can't be done at home, but an arcade could have dedicated VR machines and dedicated games for them.
>>78537806
>Critter Debt Simulator
>>78537890
>Juvenile scatological humour I understand, what is that gameplay mechanic they are parodying.
It's a First Person Shooter. Normally, you're supposed to run around, trying to avoid getting shot at by enemies by hiding behind cover. However, Dib is just standing there, leaving himself vulnerable to attack. You can also throw grenades in these games at your foes in order to kill them, but instead Dib is dropping the grenade down his own pants, which would harm him instead of it's intended purpose of harming his enemies. These actions are very foolish to do, because they run contrary to achieving the goal of the game (defeating the enemy), and are thus comical.
>>78544624
Interestingly enough my Mall just put one in with all sorts of cabinets with racing games and such, as well as the typical scam games you'd find everywhere else like Stacker, and even a back area for laser tag.
I'm wondering when it's going to get shut down. I don't see nearly as many people in there as I expected.
>>78537592
I hate anime references when they're done by people who clearly only watched edit dubs back when they were popular.
>>78544399
when cranking out half-baked shit from a tutorial becomes a social norm, the dedicated, authentic work which was created in utter seclusion in the earlier days of the internet can no longer exist. There's an otherworldly quality to the older works which is completely negated by the acknowledgement of mini-fan clubs that form around just about any content creator nowadays, no matter how small or obscure. I think it's really because creating amateur works is like a social pastime now, and the work itself is just a by-product.
>>78544633
doubtful. Like motion controls or 3d, VR is going to be a trend at best. Nobody is going to want to waggle their arm at shit that isn't there. Too tiring and it really fucks with your senses to.
>>78544633
No there isn't and no it couldn't.
"Arcades" means playing games with other people face-to-face. VR by nature removes the entire point and turns it into a solitary experience.
You REALLY are not understanding what arcades were like. They were hangouts that happened to have video games in them. Bring back the after school/work hangout environment and build it around video game machines and arcades will make a comeback. Otherwise not happening. People went to the arcades to chill with their friends, relax after work with their buddies, or to take a girl on a cheap/quick/casual/no-preparation date. Video games were just something you did while you were there.
>>78544745
>when cranking out half-baked shit from a tutorial becomes a social norm, the dedicated, authentic work which was created in utter seclusion in the earlier days of the internet can no longer exist. There's an otherworldly quality to the older works
Take the rose tinted glasses off. There was nothing overly special or more authentic about older works than there is to new ones.
Shit may be half baked, but everybody has to start somewhere. EgoRaptor, jon tron, Stamper, Whomp or whoever didn't start out instantly good and at the top of their game. And with all the helpful tuts and resources out there, it's much easier for people to get their ideas out into the open. Yeah about 85% of what's made is mediocre or absolute trash or someones passing fancy. But that's how the creative field has been since the dawn of art.
>>78544847
Feels good to live in a city with an arcade and an arcade bar.
>>78544766
That's not what "VR" means, dumbass.
Arcades are currently in the middle of a huge upswing, especially with R1 popping up in the states to give D&B some real competition. Plus, retro bars are popping up everywhere.
>>78545026
does it not stand for virtual reality?
>>78544847
>You REALLY are not understanding what arcades were like. They were hangouts that happened to have video games in them. Bring back the after school/work hangout environment and build it around video game machines and arcades will make a comeback. Otherwise not happening. People went to the arcades to chill with their friends, relax after work with their buddies, or to take a girl on a cheap/quick/casual/no-preparation date. Video games were just something you did while you were there.
So they're totally redundant, in other words. You're right, we never had them in my country, so I don't understand your nostalgia.
>>78545054
Damn you for letting me know R1 exists because now I want to go and the nearest one is fucking five hours away and I don't know a single dude from Massachusetts.
>>78537567
Look. Here's the thing.
Video games represent a simplified version of reality. Cartoons are even MORE simplified. If you made a video game "realistic" in a cartoon world, it would be indistinguishable from "reality".
A good way to make a video game read as a "Video Game" in a cartoon, is to render it even more simplistic (i.e. pixel art). Otherwise it just looks like a television. I'm not saying this is an unbreakable rule, but it explains why a lot of cartoons do this.
>>78545298
The only show I can think of that does it differently is South Park, but that's because they use real game footage.
Making a fake video game that looks good is beyond most budgets and only happens when it is relevant to the plot, ie Gravity Falls' Fight Fighters and Farily OddParents' Gamesphere.
>>78537651
feels good man.
Bush did nothing wrong.
>>78537423
If they aren't instantly recognizable, then the audience won't know what the hell is happening.
It's the same with Star Trek references. It's always the original crew with the gold, red and blue shirts. Not the Wrath of Khan uniforms, not the Next Generation, just TOS with the first uniforms.
>>78538528
>>78538569
For "old media" it didn't reach current levels until the 90s.
>>78538406
>The war on terror, 9/11and the growth of the surveillance state
>The recession
>Internet becomes mainstream along with smart phones
These are just off the top of the head examples
You seriously have to be retarded to think 2000 and 2015 are the same
>>78542431
It wouldn't be as garish if they just said that the games themselves were old, or if they played smartphone games or something.
Although, oddly enough, it's easier to pass off a pixelated mess of a platformer as a new game now than it was 10 years ago.
>>78542624
My theater has House of the Dead.
>>78545516
TNG gets referenced nearly as much as TOS, though.
>>78546603
Lucky guy.
>>78538528
In some ways, it's worse now. There used to be a bottleneck in distribution that caused so many things to be alike.
Like Hanna-Barbera for instance; they cranked out a ton of similar shows because there were only three networks and those networks wanted certain types of shows.
These days, there are tons of networks but you still have the same problem where there's really not all that much to choose from. They're all trying to copy each other; look how many networks started with the idea of appealing to a certain market and abandoned that focus for programming that is basically the same as what is available on other networks if not the exact same shows.
So you went from stagnation by necessity to stagnation by choice.
>>78542624
>>78546603
I've seen the terminator game a lot. Aside from that there's always Chuck E Cheeses and Dave and Busters. The latter is an adult catered arcade/restaurant that is lax on the "don't bring kids in" rule.
>>78547771
>Terminator
I see that shit everywhere too. And it's so odd that this, of all movies, was the one that would capitalize on its release to get in all the movie theater arcades. The movie didn't do well and the game's wide release was long after Salvation dropped off the marquee.
It should be Marvel vs. Capcom 3. That shit will never stop being relevant.
>>78537501
>You know why arcades died out? Because parents got paranoid when their kids were left alone.
No, it's because half-decent arcades are far too spread out or are overshadowed by big chains like Dave & Busters. Arcades are still a thing in Asia because countries like Japan have an insane population density and local arcades are like a block away from a train stop so you don't have to make it a whole day affair to stop by an arcade like in America unless you're one of lucky bastards that lives near a local arcade with a huge variety of games or a Round1. Every arcade around Philly sucks ass and has nothing I care about, so I have to take a three hour commute to 8 on the Break which is located in the middle of bumfuck nowhere (Dunellen) to play anything I give a rat's ass about.
>kids watching gravity falls today won't ever get the chance to go to an arcade
>>78549124
I always remember MK3 and Marvel vs Capcom in every arcade I've been in. I didn't really play anything else.
>>78549124
Who knows? Maybe the cost of building and maintaining the machines will come down and there will be a new arcade renaissance someday!Yeah I know. Let me dream.
>>78549431
Maybe after the console market crashes. The one that's been said to have happened a few times already.
>>78544624
Why are they still common in Japan?
>>78537423
Nope. I'm fine with it, but I'm sure they'll slowly work their way into the 90s. I just hope they stop at 16-bit, because yo' can't get no bettah than that!
>>78550138
because they are EVERYWHERE in japan
and also they are a social place, unlike in america, where everyone thought they were smokey murder holes with bleep bloop music
>>78538819
Plus, with my trademark fedora and wallet chain I'm pure pussy magnet.
Not just arcade machines... if a character DOES have a home console, it's inevitably a NES or gameboy
>>78545290
What's R1?
>>78542987
>south park did it, south park did it
>>78551122
Round 1, a popular arcade/entertainment chain from Japan that's been popping up in the US recently. They get some REALLY good Japanese stuff with exclusive network rights (beatmania IIDX, Sound Voltex, Initial D V8) and more focus on stuff like fighters. Pretty much D&B plus bowling and catering to more niche arcade audiences.
>>78549124
oh stop it, theres 3 arcade spots just within 10 miles of me, and i dont live anywhere remotely special
>>78551266
Oh, that sounds awesome.
