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Based on recent leaks and reports, this appears to be the rough outline.

>Peggy's funeral.

>Bucky being framed for bombing the United Nations.

>New Avengers VS. Crossbones and his men in Africa, leading to the incident for which the Avengers are blamed and the Sokovia Accords are created.

>Avengers splintering over the Registration, with Captain America agreeing to help them find Bucky.

>Captain America, Falcon and the government finding Bucky, but then helping him escape when they find out the government is out to kill Bucky, leading to Captain America VS. Black Panther.

>Captain America and Falcon go rogue and find Bucky. Hawkeye, Ant-Man and Scarlet Witch arrive to help them.

>Meanwhile, Iron Man recruits Spider-Man, War Machine, Vision, Black Widow and Black Panther to capture them.

>Bucky has information on a masterplan by HYDRA that the Avengers must foil. While trying to do so, they are ambushed by Iron Man and his followers, leading to a massive battle in an airport where War Machine is wrecked.

>Both groups work to one-up each other and foil HYDRA, leading to a final battle in a snow-covered fortress where the heroes pick each other off one by one. Vision changes sides.

>In the end, it's all about Captain America and Winter Soldier VS. Iron Man.
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>Captain America and Winter Soldier foil HYDRA's plot (something related to a virus, apparently), but the Avengers are captured.

>Captain America surrenders in exchange for their freedom and is arrested while Falcon, Ant-Man, Scarlet Witch and Hawkeye go free, but are forced to abandon their superhero identity and lay low to avoid government persecution.

>MAYBE Cap is killed on either Zemo or Ross' behalf while in custody, leaving Iron Man emotionally rekt and the heroes officially is disarray.

>Bucky, Falcon or Sharon (Probably Bucky) pick up the shield to keep the legacy alive.
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Sounds OK. What's so bloated about it?
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>one woman each
>one black guy each
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>>78520083
>Warmachine
>Not Black

Okay dude what're you smokin'?
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>>78519857

Cap's team is so fucked
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>>78519777
"Sorry tony, you know I wouldn't do this if I had any other choice. But he's my friend."

>"So was I."

Why can't superheroes NOT be assholes 24/7
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>>78519777
Wow And here I thought it wasn't gonna be one sided
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>>78520189
Cap's team ends up getting scarlet witch at some point.

Implying that scarlet witch wouldn't just reset the universe to where nobody has super powers.
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>>78519777
>>78519857
Who's the person in the retarded fucking hang-glider in the background?

is it Falcon's homosexual cousin?
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>>78519777
>where War Machine is wrecked.
So he lives, right?
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>>78520752
That's Redwing. In the MCU, he's a drone rather than an actual bird.
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Full teams

>Captain America
>Bucky
>Falcon
>Hawkeye
>Scarlet Witch
>Ant-man
>Agent 13

vs

>Iron man
>War Machine
>Black Widow
>Vision
>Black Panther
>Spider-Man
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>>78520780
Obviously.
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>>78519857
>>Captain America surrenders in exchange for their freedom and is arrested while Falcon, Ant-Man, Scarlet Witch and Hawkeye go free, but are forced to abandon their superhero identity and lay low to avoid government persecution.

This can't be right. Would they take Scott away from his kid?
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>>78520752
thats a robit you goof
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I want a scene of Steve taking care of Bucky. Give the two guys a rest, damn.
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>Virus
Ohohoho this may be Red Skulls dust of death. Or perhaps Zemo is going full chemical warfare to weed out "weak" genetic traits and this create the strongest generation possible from those who survive the outbreak
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>Another fucking superhero movie where the bad guy's plan is to release a deadly gas
Fucking hell, how many is this now?
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>>78522032
2. This one and the amazing spiderman 2.

Not really all that bad desu.

TMNT don't count since the turtles arent superheroes
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>>78519777
Technically the teams are 7v7 considering that Scarlet Witch and Spidey aren't shown and Ross is a government type to contrast Agent Carter.
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>>78519857
I am guessing he doesn’t die and we are left on a cliff hanger with Cap bleeding on the floor semi dead or maybe SHIELD claims that he's dead but it is revealed on Infinity Wars part 1 that he was in a coma or whatever to keep him safe from the government and Tony and the others are pissed because they kept that from him
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>>78522143
Batman Begins, Amazing Spiderman 1, X-Men 1, X-Men 2, and Michael Bay Ninja Turtles
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>>78522315
I like that, only they brain wash Cap via Winter Soldier style and rebrand him as US Agent,
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>>78522315
Meh, I think it would be interesting to see bucky take his place as the captain. Although I would really miss the dialogue between Tony and Steve.
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>>78522371
Literally only ASM and TMNT fit.
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>>78522517
Batman Begins scarecrow gas to make the city mad doens´t count I mean duuuude....
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>>78519857
> Doctor Strange turns up and tells Scarlet Witch that he can train her and she can do this because they can bum around in crazy dimensions.
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>>78521208
I think they aren't captured. Cap turns himself in in return for them being left alone.
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> Scarlet Witch, Hawkeye, and Ant-Man are against Registration.
> Cap and Falcon are more pro-Bucky than Anti-Reg.
> Bucky is Pro-Bucky.
> Widow is a pragmatist.
> Iron Man is pro-reg, as is War Machine.
> Black Panther is only interested in fucking up Bucky.
> Spiderman is Pro then Anti.
> Vision is Pro-Reg then Pro-Wandalust; he probably unlocks Wanda's full powers by using the Mind Gem on her.
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>>78520703
She doesn't have those powers any more, remember?
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>>78520153
I think he meant AT LEAST one each.
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>>78519777

>Ant-Man standing on Hawkeye's shoulder.

Are they going to do it, /co/? Are we going to get THAT scene?
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>>78524691
Damn right we are, question is, whos the target?
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>>78524691
Hawkeye will stand on Gi-Antman's shoulder as well.
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>>78524966
Vision.
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>>78524602
Either way she's still stupid strong even compared to people like Tony or Steve. if she actually gets to fight it won't even really be a fight. It'll just be SW throwing them around like ragdolls.
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>>78524987
Source
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>>78521224
>robit
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>>78525356
No source it would just look cool.
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>>78525250
> Scarlet Witch tossing Manlet and Rhodey around like ragdolls.

> I might cum in the cinema.
> Pretty certain they will pit magic against tech before Doctor Strange just to show this mystic power is seriously powerful shit.
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>>78520752
Is anyone really impressed by that flying thing. Why can't tony just make then a jet pack?
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>>78519777
If Vision does change sides, I'm 95% certain he'll gimp Tony's armor (like in the comic) and that's why Tony seems so helpless in the 2 on 1 in the trailer
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>>78520781
Isn't he supposed to be Falcon's pet, in the same vein as a faithful canine companion? Who the fuck befriends a glorified R/C plane?
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>>78519777
The existence of falcon triggers me , wings really?

Hawkeye should have been a sniper with like enhance sight or something. Like cap.
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>>78529133
Your mother
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>>78519777
>>New Avengers VS. Crossbones and his men in Africa, leading to the incident for which the Avengers are blamed and the Sokovia Accords are created.
...Wasn't Age of Ultron the incident for which the Avengers were blamed and the Sokovia Accords were created? Seeing as how Ultron's actions wrecked the country of Sokovia?

Why would they name the legislation after a subsequent and smaller event?
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>>78529496
Because the Sokovia Accords were proposed and put on the table before the second incident.
That incident leads to them being rushed into effect.
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>>78529170
>enhanced sight
He already has it moron. The fact that he spotted nat flying on a speeder and spotted loki miles away standing on a fuckin tower without any enhanced sight is impressive enough. Giving him some tech would just defeat the purpose. He is one of the only avengers that could probably spot ant man without tech.
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>>78529170
>the existence of falcon triggers me

You are about 30 yrs late autist. How bout fucking off of /co/ going back to reddit casual..
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>>78529496
Its more along the lines that ultron, the nyc incident, hulk tearing apart the city fighting abom, hulking tearing apart africa fighting hulkbuster, hydra vs cap shenanigans fightin and blowin up hellicarriers, IM vs hammer drones in public, and avengers vs ultron drones were the catalyst. The incident vs Crossbones and colateral damage is just the final straw with the super hero shenanigans. (not to mention whatever public super fighting that may happen on a smaller scale with DD, jessica jones, luke cage, and agents of shield).
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I think its fair to assume that Warmachine gets destroyed by Giant Man.
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Calling it again, in case for those of you who missed it when the sticky thread was first posted

Hawkeye fires Ant-Arrow, Lang uses Grow disc to enlarge arrow to BTFO Tony's team. Then uses Shrink discs to make Iron Man and War Machine action figure size, and bashes them together like a kid playing with toys.
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>>78519777
>a couple of enhanced humans vs. two Iron Men and the fucking Vision

How is this even a contest?
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>>78529967
>we will never get a giantess scene from the Marvel movies
I'm done. I'm out, nobody will really miss me.
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>>78530019
>Wanda
>Shield
>Antman
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>>78530019
Because Cap's team fights for FREEDOM! Because in the end, good ALWAYS triumphs over evil!
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>>78530019
They do get Ant-Man and Scarlet Witch, who by all rights should be able to fuck up reality itself, let alone a couple of robot suits and Vision.
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>>78529731
>You are about 30 yrs late autist.
Actually closer to 50. Sam debuted in 69.
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>>78530019
I think its Scarlet Witch who rapes Iron Man and War Machine hard, after Vision massively fucks up by using the Mind Gem on her and unlocking a ton of Chaos Magic awesomeness and overloading her emotions to fucked up levels. Iron Man vs Scarlet Witch has to happen because its one of the worst most poisonous relationships in the Avengers, and it's a neat way to show mystic power vs tech, so people are pumped for Doc Strange.
The hit Rhodey took was probably intended for the Manlet.

Giant Man and Hawkeye probably wreck Vision for doing that.
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>>78522315
That'd be lame.
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>>78529876
Fuck yes

FUCK BITCHES GET TAYNE
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>>78529876
>People still think Lego sets are accurate portrayals of what happens in the movie
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>>78532787
There's been lots of rumors about Giant-Man.

Even when the Russos were discussing the IMAX cameras, they said it was great because you could get a great sense of height
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>>78519777
I get the feeling that the only person *actually* on Tony's team is War Machine.
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>>78519857
>Bucky, Falcon or Sharon (Probably Bucky) pick up the shield to keep the legacy alive.

While I don't think its likely at all, I actually wouldn't be apposed to Sharon doing so. Sharon is a great character in the movie, who really should have gotten more screen time in Winter Soldier and VanCamp is a great actress.
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i'm so fucking glad they fixed rhodey's suit

the mk 2 worked fine as iron patriot, but it was too slim and not loaded down with enough guns for war machine. what did joe sweden do? painted it gunmetal and called it a day.

thank you russos
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I'm really hyped for this, hope we'll get a second trailer soon.

When's the Superb Owl? Or is it over? Not 'murrican.
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>>78534475

Going by all the other MCU trailers, we should expect the second one to be in February
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>>78534475
February, m80
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February or Cap Anniversary in mid Jan.
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>>78520459
I don't know why they thought this line was powerful.

Tony and Steve never really got along.
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>>78534658
It worked for some reason though, all my casual friends lost their shit at that line.
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>>78534658
I think the Russos expected Cap and Tony to have a deeper friendship in AoU, but with how messy that movie was that whole relationship fell flat.

That 2 minute scene at the end where they suddenly go "wah I'll miss you" doesn't really count since they acted like cunts to eachother the rest of the movie. Whedon had one job and he blew it, couldn't even develop that friendship in 2 movies. Cap/Falcon and Cap/Widow managed to be more believable friendships after just one.
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>>78534775
can i just be the millionth person to say "holy shit winter soldier was an amazing movie"

they just knocked everything out of the park, most important of which being the character relationships

i'm tempted to just ignore avengers 1 and 2 because of how poorly they handle the characters
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>>78534821
Yeah, I really feel like people are overlooking how good the character work was in that movie. Widow was finally good for once, Falcon was great, Fury finally felt like he was doing something in these movies.

Their dynamics with Cap were also nice, especially the friendship between Cap and Widow. I was skeptical when I heard she was gonna be in the movie, but damn they made it work. The "good spy/bad spy" thing she had with Cap was really nice and I'm glad they didn't go for the predictable romance route with them. Loved the car scene and the one in Sam's apartment. I was pretty damn disappointed when Whedon ignored their friendship in AoU in favor of the Banner romance and Stark bickering.
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>>78519777
But wasn't Hydra's master plan to open a portal to Maveth so they could free the ultimate inhuman?
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>>78534923
I don't think Marvel owns the rights to Namor.
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>>78534990
I think they mostly do, but there are some complications.
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>>78520801
spider man changes sides afaik
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>>78530019
Ant Man wrecks both suits while we get a cutaway of Pym laughing at punk ass Stark tech.
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>>78534775
>>78534821
>>78534910

I'm hoping we get a good scene in CW that actually shows a good friendship between Cap and Tony, before the divide. I'm thinking the funeral scene might be a good place to have one.
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>>78535943
I wonder if Peggy ever met Tony whenever she went by the Stark's to have tea with good old Jarvis.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPFwKdVe3J8

Trailer music is damn good
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>>78536367
reminds me a lot of cloud atlas, but more tense and less sweet.
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>>78532710
>>78522455
Guys we know he's not going to die in Cap 3, Evans already said he was going to be in Infinity Wars and there is no way Disney and Marvel Studios would let his character go like that, he's not Quicksilver.

So it's a cop out or he gets revived on IW but that would be cheaper.
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>>78536367
But then how do they dream?
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>>78536405
Who says he doesn't get brought back to life in Infinity War: Part 2 or something?
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>>78534923
>He believes Fiege gives a shit about AoS bullshit
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>>78537173
He does. They have incorporated -some- stuff from AoS into the movies. Not much. But some. And they're building to the Inhumans movie.
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>>78536367
Fuck yes, it's been released.

When the trailer came out you couldn't find the song anywhere.
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>>78537381
Lol no autist. They havent at all and they never will. If you think fiege even for one second says "hey lets check if agents of shield did with hydra before use them in our mega blockbuster", then you are delusional. Nobody gives a fuck about the show in that boardroom. Fiege more than likely only watched episode 1
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>>78536367
Winter soldier trailers had great music too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da4d2lDURj0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9TJxV3sUos
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>>78537484
what* we*
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>>78537381
>Agents of Shit
>canon
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>>78537484
>They havent at all and they never will

You realize Agent Sitwell, who was a decent sized part of Winter Soldier, was a large part of early Agents of Shield, right? Also the helicarrier in AoU, etc.

>Lol no autist.

This statement is looking pretty ironic now.
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>>78537594
You realize Sitwell was in Thor and Avengers before AoS, right?
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>>78537691
Where was he in Avengers?
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>>78519777
>Bucky has information on a masterplan by HYDRA that the Avengers must foil.

Please let it be Supreme Death God Emperor of HYDRA Grant Ward.
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>>78537735
Sitwell kept serving under S.H.I.E.L.D. and was seen as a computer expert on the S.H.I.E.L.D Helicarrier. He was the agent who located Loki in Stuttgart. During Hawkeye's attack on the ship, Sitwell's abilities were essential in regaining the control of the Helicarrier despite the heavy damages.
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>>78537735
He wasn't. The anon was just pulling stuff out of his ass,
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>>78537787
>being this retarded
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0848228/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast
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>>78529876
Why don't they just make a giant mini fig for Giant Man.
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>>78536367
Sharks Don't Sleep.

Beautiful and melancholic. Intense but also sad.
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>>78538074
Just like I hope the movie will be.

Cap movies are the only ones in the MCU I give a shit about.
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>>78537988
That's not how Pym Particles work, Stark you dipshit. Go create a mad AI or slap Pepper why don't you.

~Hank 'the Pymp' Pym
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>>78529876
>that bucky
I'm in tears.
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why is the roster so small?
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>>78534821
The Russos say they thought of how each character would behave, and you only have to look at Winter Soldier to see that they really do that.
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>>78534227
Cap's team is very close-knit and built on kinship and friendship.

Stark's team is built on convenience and pragmatism.
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>>78541683
p much
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>>78529876
>Mandarin mobile shooting orange balls at iron man.jpg
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>>78522371
Batman has the Joker parading deadly gas around

X-men 2 had psychic bomb.

Gas is a weapon we've feared for over 100 years now and honestly some Nazis using it makes sense.
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>>78543721
We know the airport scene happens, there is a big difference between that and the Mandarin Mobile set.
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>>78540637
He's so happy.
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>>78519777
So whats the betting Spider Man gets unmasked sometime during the fight by somebody who tells him he's too green, Ant Man maybe?
I imagine Cap would be unmasked sometime soon after so nothing comes of it.
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>>78526058
Pls kill yourself afterward
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>>78529967

>Hawkeye fires Ant-Arrow, Lang uses Grow disc to enlarge arrow to BTFO Tony's team. Then uses Shrink discs to make Iron Man and War Machine action figure size, and bashes them together like a kid playing with toys.
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>>78534658
>>78534683
Well assholes.... i cried at that scene....
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>>78540971
Because you guys cried for age of ultron being too crowded
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>>78519777
Why is antman in this movie? Did his even connect to the mcu more than the scuffle with falcon?
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>>78548333
Dont you remember the ending of Ant-Man?
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>>78548407
Not really. It was a happy ending
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>>78547790
When the next trailer shows Vision vs Scarlet Witch YouTube reaction videos of girls going "noooooo" with their hands over their mouths will be everywhere.
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>>78548420
Louis told Scott that Falcon was looking for him because Falcon needed him to steal some shit
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>>78548562
Scott will tell Clint and Wanda about the incident in Ant-Man.
Sam-kun will spend the rest of the movie worrying if Steve-senpai will find out.
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>>78529876
>Antman constantly beating up black heroes
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>>78519777

I really wish Spider-Man wasn't in this movie. It seems so horribly forced
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>>78548906
My greatest fear is Spiderman sucking character development away from the other characters.

That is going to get alot worse come Spiderman and Iron Man's Infinity War.
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