what do you expect from Frozen 2?
>>78489880
>google Frozen 2
>lol at all the clickbait
A failed attempt at making another Let It Go; tons of cash regardless.
Double the profits.
At the very least a little over half more than the first one.
>>78489880
More dissing old Disney tropes in a condescending mannerand then using cheesy tropes anyway
>>78489880
For Elsa to get a love interest crippling the waifufags. Also said love interest for Elsa is an inexplicably Fire Powers Guy. And also for his personality to be like that faggot Vampire from Twilight, so all abusive and shit.
It would turn on twats, but drive away waifufags who love Elsa.
>>78489896
>the first article with image of Elsa and Jack Frost in it
Give me a shirtless Kristoff scene and I'm sold.
>>78489939
>A few years after the last movie
>Elsa is jealous of Anna and Kristoff's love
>Finds a perfect guy
>Perfect guy is in fact an abusive usurper
>Elsa kicks him to the curb and realizes she's a strong independent woman who don't need no man
>Tumblr rejoices
>>78489939
>>78490017
>implying Hans won't get redeemed in the end and hooked up with Elsa
>>78490017
>Tumblr rejoices
>implying Tumblr won't ship her and abusive fuck just because he's hot as all hell.
>>78489880
another poorly written and poorly paced movie with formulaic musical numbers and poor characterization.
>>78490043
Exactly. The only ones celebrating Elsa rebelling against Abusive Fire Powers Guy Who Is Attractive would be envious beta males.
a blond chad prince to fuck Elsa.
more cancerous generals
>>78489880
Hans appearing and redeeming himself at least a little. Not a sudden and total transformation, I still want him to be interesting and a dick, but I'd like Disney to turn him around. Also backstory, Elsa struggling with the realities of ruling, the sisters exploring their relationship and experiencing character growth through arguing a bit, Kristoff finally singing and a new, credible villain.
I also think that a Kristanna proposal is in the cards.
But mainly I just want to see more of the awesome ginger fuckface. He's a great character, realistically ambiguous and just a bitter asshole with ambition instead of an ultra-evil "100% evil because villainy is fun" cardboard antagonist. I want backstory on him and I want to see the Southern Isles, dammit
An equally shitty movie.
>>78490189
>Hans appearing and redeeming himself at least a little.
why? for what purpose?
>>78490189
He literally got shoved into a pile of shit. There's no coming back from that
I expect the return of /frz/.
>>78490257
>>78490297
>acting like /frz/ ever left and might be constantly lurking with threads like this
>>78490297
God I hope so, they are easily the most obnoxious fucks in /co/
>>78490250
>no coming back from being the butt of a poo joke
Are you really this naive? Sure, he can't bounce back into being a credible main antagonist since they need to be legit threatening and not pathetic. Which leaves open the avenue of going from being a hated character to being a pitied character to getting redeemed.
>>78490227
Because he's an interesting character with a lot of unused potential, we know so little. I think he's the most realistic Disney character I've seen in years in the sense that his villainy is very similar to how it works in the real world; people who believe themselves to be in the right and who maybe have sort of acceptable motivations (a desire to be noticed, loved and respected, ambition, wanting to find their own place, getting your parent's approval etc) that just get perverted to all hell due to them getting blinded by the "ends justify the means" mindset. Most villains in the real world believe they're the heroes in their own story, like Hans. He's ambiguous, and that's a lot more interesting imo than the muahahahaha you fools I'll enslave you all villainy Disney usually goes for
>>78490389
the only thing I read out of that was that you thought he was hot and you wanted to fuck him.
>>78490189
I really liked his character until the cheesy reveal. I don't mind that he was the bad guy all along, but the reveal was just so fucking horrible and silly. It was such a cheesy trope. RIP to his character.
>>78490440
not only that but they couldn't even be assed to put in foreshadowing for it in the first act after they rewrote the third act of the movie.
>>78490416
Yes yes, nice strawman, now run along and go play with yourself
>>78490440
Yeah the reveal was awful. Almost OOC really, since if he's that cunning and a military guy, surely he'd have suffocated Anna with a pillow or sat there with a wistful face and held her hand until she died or something.
But a lot about the first movie was ham-fisted and a bit awful. I blame the rush they were in after changing and rechanging the plot so many times so close to releasing it. I don't think it'll stop the WDAS people from doing what they want. Hans is a great character and it'd be a shame to not use him any more. Besides the WDAS people have expressed to Santino Fontana they'd like to bring him back and redeem him, so there's a chance it'll happen.
I actually have a faint hope they'll do a better job with Frozen II, since now that they have established the main characters and their dynamics and the setting, there shouldn't be any massive last-minute changes, and they might actually have the time to think it through and actually write a coherent plot this time around.
It's only a very faint hope though.
>>78490564
did you run out of poorly drawn porn from your shitty drawfags on /frz/ or something? go back to your shitty chan, assfaggot.
>>78490502
>>78490502
There's foreshadowing, but it's all in Hans' expressions and very easy to miss. I guess they didn't want to give it away. It's a bit poorly done since so many people didn't see it all - okay, the surprise was bigger, but then most people feel the twist came completely out of nowhere and claimed that it was a last-minute addition to the plot or something
>>78490330
>>78490733
>claimed that it was a last-minute addition to the plot or something
it was.
they were half way through production when they decided to completely change the third act to be Hans as the bad guy.
>>78490779
Hans was ALWAYS the bad guy, anon. At some point in the early production he was just kind of dumb (I'm assuming this is when Elsa was still the main villain and had blue skin), but he was never good. Kristoff was supposed to be the main love interest for Anna for a looooong time, so of course it's easier if Hans isn't good but just looks like the ideal prince at first
https://twitter.com/alittlejelee/status/506967491935883264
>>78489880
I expect it to not happen.
Disney should justlet it go.
>>78490779
And besides, Frozen has technically been in development since the 1940s, so "half-way through production" doesn't mean much. If you mean the active production after being revitalized once again in 2011, I'd like to see a source citing that Hans was "suddenly turned" to be the bad guy, since everything I've seen points towards him always being the red herring love interest that turns out to have a not-so-sweet core behind the dreamy facade, and the Kristoff character being the true love interest.
If anything is a last-minute addition to the plot, it's Elsa being sweet, well-intentioned and frightened instead of the somewhat callous bitch who doesn't give two shits about freezing Arendelle over she was still quite late
Skating.
Yeah, since it is all about girls looking pretty and faboulous i am sure there will be some skating.
>>78490944
>most profitable movie Disney's had since the Lion King
>meanwhile, most moneymaking movies are sequels or parts of a franchise, including in the animation business where Toy Story, Monsters Inc. Shrek and Despicable Me sequels are raking in the dosh
>believing that Disney wouldn't try to jump on the gravy train and milk the franchise more with a sequel
come on now, anon
The spell that made people think Frozen was THE BEST ANIMATED MOVIE EVER to be broken.
That's all I can hope for. Not that it fails and not that it's bad, but that the fervent worship it gets to dissipate.
>>78489880
They're gonna make Elsa fall in love with Anna's baby and cave into kidnapping it. Meanwhile, Olaf finds his true love: a goat.
>>78489880
Elsa's inevitable world conquest.
>>78492577
M8 you know who they're eventually going to make Elsa fall in love withit'll be awesome
>>78490041
Yes, please.
>>78490041
I expected them together at the end while watching the movie.
They go to Hawaii, find a fire bf for Elsa, a sand gf for the snowman (who is somehow not melting), and the big bad is some shaven yeti throwing people in a volcano.
>>78494077
it's just so stupid I can see it happening.
>>78493953
>>78492816
>>78492772
>>78492577
and these fucking waifu fags will shit themselves posting a thousand threads about how deep and meaningful their shitty movie is because they've never actually interacted with another person before.
>>78493985
Yep, me too. I was sure after the dungeon scene that they'd be an item, the true love's kiss wouldn't work because Hans has the hots for Elsa and Anna was clearly being paired with Kristoff
>>78493953
Mein neger
>>78489880
Time for the big question.
http://strawpoll.me/6386432
>>78494232
>No "Frozen is a terrible movie" option.
shit poll.
I used to be a Frozen fan until I actually re-watched it a couple more times and saw all of it's glaring flaws.
What they should do the with sequel:
>avoid all romantic plot lines for Elsa like they've been doing
>Add in an actual antag who poses a real threat, not just Hans being a piece of shit douche
>Actually give Krsitoph something to do
>Anna and Elsa fighting off the cool antag together
What will happen:
>Elsa will get a love interest because fuck you this is Disney
>Kristoph is just there for shit one liners
>SO. MUCH. OLAF.
>Antag is some stupid ass Rasputin type weirdo who wants to melt the world or something dumb
>Elsa gets a new dress again
>>78494269
That option is to not participate in the poll or this thread. You kinda failed at that.
>>78494301
I'm here to remind you all that your general got banned for a reason.
I can only hope that mods have learned their lesson and will delete your threads a month after the movie opens when you all are just jerking off to your own shitty stories like you had been for a fucking year.
>>78494232
The only possible results are either outright straight, or still left vague in Frozen 2 (and revealed as straight in Frozen 3, should it ever happen).
Personally I disagree with this notion that in order to be independent and strong, a woman must be alone. As if women would be so weak that any romantic relationship whatsoever would mean total dependency and suddenly their whole existence would just be about getting a man and catering to them, or something. So I don't think giving Elsa a love interest would "ruin" the message of the first film, as I've seen some people claim.
Also surely no-one is as delusional as to actually think that Disney would ever portray lesbian incest as a positive thing in their Princess movie directed at toddlers? It's just trolling? Right?
>>78494232
>inb4 some feggot games the poll so Elsanna wins
>>78494329
But all you do is whine and bitch, anon
HA HA
TIME FOR HANS
>>78494352
clearly you've never been to /frz/
>>78494275
The tumblrinas and fanboys are gonna flip out over the dress. Fan art: guaranteed.
>>78494399
when you speak to toddlers you have to talk like a toddler.
>>78494329
Personally I have no problem with /frz2/ getting shut down when the movie leaves the theaters. /frz/ became a monstrosity that shouldn't have been allowed.
>>78494449
I think that general threads of any kind should be shut down. All it does is engender /soc/ talk and eventually all discussion about the actual material is left behind.
Just look at any thread in /vg/ that doesn't have a recent release. There's fucking nothing going on in there except for people bumping threads with nothing in them.
>>78494437
But the only person whining and bitching in this thread is you, anon
>>78494449
Yeah, after all we're on an international forum, and movies don't open at the same time everywhere, and not everyone sees movies within a month of release.
I really don't understand why people are so upset that people want do discuss popular content. It seems weird to demand that discussion of a particular media product is culled or banned for no other reason than it being popular and people wanting to discuss it a lot. I can understand that if it gets completely out of hand and goes on for a year or something like that, it's too much, but setting artificial limits like 4 WEEKS FROM RELEASE seems odd
>>78494548
This is true, but they need to exist for a while, otherwise you get 10 - 20 threads discussing the same shit. And no one wants 20 Frozen threads. It does need to be shut down because people don't know when tolet it go.
>>78494548
but wouldn't that result in the entire board being overrun with dozens of threads about the same franchise?
Or would you suggest that discussing any franchise or media product with no "new material" should be banned? Only currently airing shows or movies or very recent releases can be discussed, and that's it, everything else is banned?
>>78494645
it happens even with general threads.
>>78494563
You clearly never went into /frz/ a month or two after the release. Generals only discuss the general topic for short time before it devolves into random chatter and/or fanfiction discussion. Even IF someone saw the movie from say, the UK, months after the US release, they would not be able to effectively discuss it in the General, because everything they want to talk about has already been discussed by the thread regs a dozen times. Best to kill the general and let anyone that wants to discuss it after the fact make a separate spontaneous thread.
>>78494645
The trouble is "General" as in a string of threads about a topic chained together as one thread dies another is made in it's place. THIS is a practice that should be banned when there is no new material. The Mods got it right when they banned /frz/ but not Frozen discussion.
>>78494764
Exactly this.
I should be able to have a Kim Possible thread. I should not be able to have a three, four, five, six Kim Possible threads all linked together, especially when the only thing being discussed is a fan porn story.
The only group that seems to get this stuff right, most of the time, are the webcomic ones.
>>78489880
I expect her to remain single. I feel like she has to, Parents will get too buttmad if there's a lesbian in their kids' movie and SJWs and LGBT activists will be too buttmad if Elsa isn't a dyke. Disney won't want to piss off either side, no matter how small it is, so they'll go for the soft option.
>>78495271
I really doubt any significant amount of SJW or LGBT activists would actually get angry or even be surprised because a cartoon princess in a movie directed at little kids expresses interest in guys, though? I mean, its a Disney movie after all.
All they'd have to do is write her finding romance in a way that's still empowering and doesn't make getting married her sole goal in life and people should still be pleased. And in any case - if they'd put in a different character who'd be openly gay but still a positive human character, boom, it'd be heralded as a progressive movie for the LGBT community because they'd finally have their first openly, officially gay Disney character, which would be groundbreaking.
After all, Elsa's been suffering from loneliness all her life, so it seems pretty sad that she'd be left an eternal spinster. And besides, people do want to see her hook up with someone - heck, there's been petitions with over 10K signatures about how Disney should buy the rights to Jack Frost from the Guardians movie and slap him in Frozen 2 so they could be together.
>>78495534
>I really doubt any significant amount of SJW or LGBT activists would actually get angry or even be surprised because a cartoon princess in a movie directed at little kids expresses interest in guys, though? I mean, its a Disney movie after all.
That's because you're thinking Logically. SJWs and LGBT activists don't do that. They, along with Feminists and race-baiters live in their own little world where people are just supposed to do what the SJWs and the like want without regard for anything else.
Similar to how fanboys expect certain things to happen in cartoons despite the fact that the cartoon is not made for them.
>>78489905
>new Let it Go
Imagine the poor soul told to write the followup to that amount of focus and hype.
>>78495608
Sure, but I don't think the amount of buttmad SJW tumblrinas in the end would be high enough to actually cause any effect or reaction. They might be loud in their little corner of the internet, but that'd be it.
IRL feminists wouldn't get properly angry over a Disney cartoon, they might write a huffy online article about how "predictable" it is but that's it. The only people who might legit get upset, teenage / young adult fans in the internet fandoms, would be noticeably tempered down by
a) ranting in their blogs and blowing their steam off that way
b) not having a lot of money anyway, so their "boycott" wouldn't be a big loss for Disney
c) their online fandoms also containing a lot of people who saw Elsa as straight and maybe even shipped her with someone, or people who really like the new film with its romance. There'd be internal discussion in the fandom about how it's wrong to "attack" the ships, preferences and headcanons of other people, and how we all should respect each other in the same fandom and learn to live together, and how it's actually bullying and really rude and toxic to get too loud about how you hate the movie because there might be depressed people who really like Frozen II and have you thought about their feelings, huh.
Essentially it'd just be a couple of ranty tumblr posts, maybe a lot of activity in the anti-Frozen tag and the creation of a new lesbian Elsa tag, where people would withdraw to and live in their blessed AU headcanon bubble. Kind of what the Elsanna fandom is doing now, denying reality.
I mean sure, a part (not the majority) of the hardcore online fandom might get upset. But they're not really where the money is coming from. And Disney, a for-profit company, cares about money and the wider audience more than the feelings of obsessive hardcore fans.
At least I hope so, because man will it be a boring movie if they'll be afraid to piss any chunk of the diverse fandom off.
>>78495534
So she gets married to a REALLY emasculated simpy bitch guy who has no spine and needs Elsa to fight his battles for him?
I'm talking a male character that makes Ratatouille's Linguini look masculine.
Mass suicide
>>78496099
>Sure, but I don't think the amount of buttmad SJW tumblrinas in the end would be high enough to actually cause any effect or reaction. They might be loud in their little corner of the internet, but that'd be it.
I used to believe that too. Then GamerGate happened.
>>78496916
To be honest I'd love to see something like this, it would NEVER happen though.
>>78489880
I'd kind of would want a Frozen animated series instead, actually. Flesh out the world and personalities further and their backstories. (Like I imagine Kristoff is surprisingly versed in magic 'theory' and myths being raised by rock trolls)
>>78497058
Gamergate is way different than "waah this Disney Princess character wasn't a lesbian even though it was my headcanon" though. Gamergate was seen as a legit, adult, respectable feminist cause they could get properly upset about and earn feminist warrior points, fighting for a "good cause".
Kicking up a tantrum because oh what a fucking surprise, Disney didn't turn their immensely popular Princess character directed at little kids into a dyke after all, oh wow they were predictable and safe instead of trailblazing and groundbreaking - it's just not the same thing. After all, she hasn't even been hinted to be a lesbian. She just didn't immediately start to lust after a man the moment she stopped being a lethal danger to everyone around her.
>>78496766
You really think the only options are "obsessed about romance and desperate to find a man since they can't bear being alone" and "married to a spineless turbowimp"? Really? Either the woman or the man has to be a spineless, fragile flower, completely leaning on the other?
No middle ground option of equal companions?
>>78489880
>Elsa gets a love interest
>It's a tall muscular black guy with lightning and fire powers
>He talks in stereotypical hood rat dialect to be culturally accurate
>Kristoff feels inferior next to the superior black specimen
>He gets all passive aggressive which puts a strain on his relationship with Anna
>Everyone loves black Zeus
>At the end of the movie Anna leaves Kristoff and the new male main character culturally enriches both Elsa and Anna while singing a parody of "Let it go" that goes something like "Suck my bone! Suck my bone! You bitches gonna swallow my big fat load!"
>Movie generates trillions of dollars in pure profit and ushers in a new age of animation.
>>78497587
It's a movie targeted at little children, please put more effort in your nightmare scenarios so they'd seem even vaguely possible
>>78497469
Not when Disney is in charge of making Gynocentric propaganda. Can't have Elsa pair up with a man who is in every way her superior. Doing that would be sexist. So by default Elsa's love interest has to be a politically corrected emasculated dope. He could look good and has muscle, but his emotional state must be neutered and his intellect must be non-existent. He cannot be sharp minded or strong emotionally.
That is the formula for Pro-Female movies. The only people who can make the tough masculine men in every way without accusations of sexism are other women. Hence the Twilight Novels or 50 Shades of Grey. Only women can craft alpha males without any PC roadblocks.
/frz/ to pollute this board again and for the fanbase to showcase autism that makes Sanic and Homesuck fans blush.
/frz/ was a fucking blast, I feed on your tears, butthurt fuccbois.
>>78498242
the return will be pretty awesome, I think
Almost like a reunion
>>78489880
elsa blue dress got even more sexier than before
also more boob jiggle.
>>78498942
>boob jiggle
this is a fucking kids movie we are talking about not one of your chink cartoons
>>78499074
its for all ages movie, not kids only movie.
also in frozen 1 there is already lots of boob jiggle.
>>78498242
I never got a chance to experience it, and neo/frz/ is basically two shitposters and a shitposter who can't stop talking about how he wants to marry elsa. I just wanna experience that initial rush of creativity firsthand.
I also really, really want Elsa to hook up with a qt highborn lady and show her the joys of not being repressed or something. It'll never happen, but I can dream.
>>78489905
They already tried than on Frozen Fever, it was failed.
well at least they tried.
>>78489880
Less Song, more dialogue Please.
>>78499406
Yeah, I actually don't like the stuff the Lopezes produce too much. It's too generic blah, too broadway
>>78490330
>even the containment board can't stop them
>>78499843
which songs would you cut out of frozen 1?
>>78500816
that troll song & build a snowman song.
>>78500816
I like Frozen Heart. I wish the rest of the songs would try to imbue the mood and the setting of the film in a similar way.
For the First Time in Forever is also good, and I like the DOOOOOOR part in Love is an Open Door a lot, even though parts of the song are a bit meh. Let it Go is also okay, I suppose.
The build a snowman song is a bit, well, it's not the worst but it could be better. It works for what it's there for though, it gives the exposition it's supposed to. But I really wish the musical themes were more Nordic.
But Olaf's In Summer, and the troll song, Fixer Upper, are absolutely awful. And the song in Frozen Fever was atrocious. Okay it's a narrative song for the short but still.
There's just, I don't like a lot of the Lopezes word choices, I guess. It feels too teenager-y and mundane, somehow. Don't know why. There's no great ballad feel, it's just like ha ha burping or excitement who knows amirite and like totally your face dude you're so hot JINX hey he likes to tinkle in the woods lol by the way where's the ring guuurrl. It feels flat, somehow. I expected more from Disney ballads, something aspiring higher, towards depicting these grand emotions and longing and aspiration.
>>78499364
>le everyone is gay meme
go back to your fucking reddit
>>78502661
Fixer Upper has it's moments, but it's really brought down by being both the final song, and for like the third time hitting the audience over the head with the goddamn moral of the story, and In Summer really feels like a "we got Gad, we might as well give him a song" which really kills when you have Groff RIGHT FUCKING THERE, and he gets nothing.
Frozen Heart is, I think along with Vuelie, the best and worst song at the same time. It's the only song that feels like it fits the setting, and ends up being something of a disappointment because it's so far removed from all the other songs, as you've said.
The Instrumental songs are typically better, simply because you don't have the Lopez's words messing up nice tracks.
>>78503213
Yeah. I understand that they wanted to prepare for the Broadway musical by making a lot of the songs Broadway-ish to begin with but I think it's an awful choice. I just wish the songs would have fit the mood better, instead of disrupting the mood and taking the viewer away from the world, in a way.
The movie was a hit despite the songs, I'd say, not because of them. And I'm actually a bit upset the Lopezes are now considered hit songwriters in part because of Frozen's success. I mean "Making Today a Perfect Day" was really awful.
>>78503746
It's only Robert who is the "hit song writer" and he can be good when he's given more freedom, and not told to make it kid friendly, that can be seen in his earlier works.
>>78489880
Male elsa
This was a success because it appealed to female guilt.
They'll have to come up with a new reason for either Anna or Elsa to be a social outcast and a new reason for them to get over it in song form.
My guess is that Elsa will marry someone with a bad reputation, and Anna has to realise he's innocent, and prevent whatever civil unrest this causes. Some bad guy behind the scenes wants to be king and is spreading bad rumors.
>Disney sequels
>good
>ever
There's a reason they always go Direct-to-DVD.
>>78489880
elsanna
>>78489880
More Porn
>had a thing for Norwegian dresses for years, even before the movie
>mfw all of the fan art and cosplay as a result of Frozen
for the love of God, bring out the sequel already
>>78505933
They ended the direct to dvd cheapquels. But you're right, it probably won't be any good. As they say, Lightning never strikes twice in the same place.
>>78506899
This
>reminder that it was a warm Christmas because nobody celebrated Elsa's birthday this year
>>78499372
I just watched Frozen Fever for the first time the other day. That song really didn't strike me as trying to be a successor to "Let it Go".
That short was cringe-worthy though. It was uncomfortably apparent how aware Disney was of the movie's fanbase, and how hard they were trying to pander to them.
>>78489880
More rape
>>78510034
At Least we get Drunk Elsa
>>78489880
They should bring in that cute Arab queen from the children's book.
>>78510082
She needs to get tanked more often
>>78510107
>originally read that as 'cute Crab queen'
goddammit
>>78489880
Guns, Blood, Explosion, Elsa Kills people.
>>78489880More Cowbell
They should explore why Elsa even has powers.
More old norse inspired fantasy lore, please.
More Degenerate fetishist.
>>78510129
>that face
Now I know what she reminds me of.
>>78510351
or Elsa lost her powers in Frozen 2
And her hair turned from Blonde to Brunette
Ana's and Elsa's relation grows into more than just sisters, as the warm spring summer approaches. With this newfound love Elsa has lost her powers. Follow Ana, Elsa, Snowfucker, and surprise Disney channel stars in my an adventure of a lifetime. In Frozen 2, Defrosting. Coming 2017
>>78510463
Cannot unsee.
>>78510082
>>78510129
http://metro.co.uk/2015/12/29/people-are-not-happy-with-this-frozen-branded-bottle-of-champagne-for-kids-5589660/
Blame Frozen Fever for this.
HANS DID NOTHING WRONG
>>78489880
Frozen 2 Become the first R rated disney animation movie in russia
Because Elsanna is canon.
Do it disney, you already makes a shit ton of money in frozen 1 dont be a full jew.
Have you seen this? SJWs are outraged over it's rampant sexuality, and are demanding it be removed, burned, and everyone who made it be burned with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft_Zr6twZQY
>>78511716
In other words the sky is blue.
>>78511716
Game of Thrones villain wannabe
