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Last year around this time a kind anon storytimed Pyongyang - A Journey in North Korea by Guy Delisle.

A biographical comic about a French Canadian Animation director, his life living and working in North Korea for two months. His struggles with the difficulties of outsourcing and the bureaucracy of a totalitarian closed state.

Gather round because the storytime's about to start.
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>Actually takes George Orwell's 1984 with him to NK, the absolute madman.
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They have a new airport now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qik2xFDf58

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2thOqRO2i8
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keep it up op, i had a rather shitty christmas

i need something to make me appreciate how fortunate my life is
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I hope it can lighten your mood, even if it's just a little. Who knows things might turn around for the North Koreans too sometime in the future.
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You have good taste anon
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bumping. thanks for storytime OP.
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Merci beaucoup!
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You're doing Kim's work OP, keep it up.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnEbVBZIrAE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDJwlUNiJBQ
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I always found it funny how in cartoon credits, they never specifically mention in which Korea it was made.
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Anything for NK's grorious reader
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>>78443958
The real reason these pictures are at a specific angle is not to cut out reflection but that you always have to look up to the glorious leaders.
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Keep going op,this is pretty interesting.
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Thanks. Great comic.
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>>78444012
Had a browser crash mid posting, if I disappear mid storytime.. I want you guys to know that/co/ is still love
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>microwaved bread
Goddamit, thats not how toast works!
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All of Guy Delisle's travelogue comics are pretty good, he's done one of his year in Jerusalem and another based on a few months in Shenzhen
Weirdly the Shenzhen one felt more like what I imagined Pyongyang was going to feel like. You don't really think about how restricted China is until you read about how heavily controlled the Shenzhen/Hong Kong border is
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OP could you post a download link at the end of the storytime?
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It's been on my HD for a while but finding a working dl shouldn't be too hard.
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>An additional 5 to 6 million individuals, ignored by the regime, are left to fend for themselves.
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reading bump
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also reading
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Delisle is such a good cartoonist. I loved Shenzhen and Israel. Thanks for the storytime, you're doing good work OP.
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>>78445480
The end! Merry Christmas, hope you all enjoyed it as much as I did!
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>>78445494
nice read, thanks OP
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>>78443609

Funny how global capitalism goes along with totalitarian communism in animation production department.
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>>78445494
Thanks OP, would it be possible to upload it somewhere, as I can't find any working links for this?
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Oy Vey why didn't you pick Jerusalem Chronicle instead?
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Thanks OP; much appreciated.
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Merci, senpai.
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Not op but here, enjoy this comic.
http://www53.zippyshare.com/v/JsuE4cJ9/file.html
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>>78446782
Do you have Shenzhen ?
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>>78447190
Downloading it and Jerusalem right now however my internet is slow as fuck so it probably going to take a pretty long time. I will upload both of them once I get them however if this thread 404 by that time than its going to get posted on next wednesday win-o thread
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>>78445773
>>78446227
OP here, no problem.

>>78445777
As long as it's cheap absolutely nobody really gives a shit where it's made.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2015/12/23/Human-rights-group-North-Korea-slave-force-earns-Kim-Jong-Un-regime-300M/2971450884994/?src=r

>Human rights group: North Korea slave force earns Kim Jong Un regime $300M
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>>78447255
Thanks, I will wait for that.
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>>78444188
>You don't really think about how restricted China is....

And that's exactly how the Chinese totalitarians want it.

China is the largest and darkest tyranny in history. And it exists right now, while we do nothing about it.
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>>78447488

Have you seen that "game-ification" app that they're making mandatory for citizens that gives you points for how patriotic you are and tracks your activities? It also lowers your score if you associate with people who have a lower score and insufficiently participate in it.

Pretty spooky shit.
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thanks again for posting op

enjoyed reading this last year


intresting book
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This is the worst neo-liberal reactionary shit.
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>>78444819

Motherfucker hates coca-cola?!

DROPPED
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>>78443609

If anyone is wondering what cartoon he went to NK to work on, it's The Bellflower Bunnies.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1185090
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>>78447984
It seems like a more honest and fair depiction than what we usually get in the West.
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>>78444473

>it's full of beggars and it isn't very clean

Well he's not wrong.
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>>78447984
Have you red Jerusalem or Footnotes In Gaza from Joe Sacco?
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>>78444202
Hehe that's level 2 in Doom isn't it?
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>We could have gotten a movie made out of this comic but Seth Rogen had to go and piss off North Korea with The Interview

http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/steve-carell-s-north-korea-movie-from-guy-delisle-novel-scrapped-after-sony-hack-1.2877462

http://www.guydelisle.com/divers/farewell-hollywood/

In 2001, a few months after my return from North Korea, I was sending the
first pages of my book to the animation studio directors who had sent me
there. I thought that they would be amused to read how life was in
Pyongyang, where their TV series was produced. The reaction was cold, I was
told that I wasn’t allowed to talk about my stay over there and that my
contract had a confidentiality clause that prevented me from publishing a
book on the subject.

I consulted with my editor at the time, L’Association, where I had published
my first albums. Jean-Christophe Menu the director of this small publishing
house really liked the idea and the first pages of the book. We looked for
the confidentiality clause and couldn’t find it. Finally he told me: too bad
if we end up in court, it’s a book we have to do.

Guy Delisle, December 19, 2014

>>78447936
No problem, it's why I did it this year.
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Mother of fuck. I wouldn't last a day.
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>>78444394
>Giving 1984 to your North Korean guide
The absolute madman
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>>78448407
Both Delisle and Sacco are really good. Both tell such interesting stories and really try to give you a feel by explaining tiny details. This is a rare gift.
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>>78448914
No normal person would last in NK, that place is made to break you down until you're nothing more than a husk.
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>>78448920
Dude probably got sent to a labour camp afterwards.
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>>78444468
I read a post on Reddit (!) in some kind of AMA by a North Korean defector and she said that the most overwhelming characteristic of the Western world is that people spoke their minds all the time without even thinking of repercussions. I can't remember the exact words but it was terrifying. It's like everyone is lying to each other all the time.
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>>78443957
Both governments claim sovereignty over the whole peninsula. I'm guessing that putting "North" or "South" in your company's name would undermine that.
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>>78444729
This has been great so far. About to ride to Daytona Beach, got this downloaded and plan to finish it along the way.
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>>78449071
Someone you might think is trustworthy could rat you out for a bowl of rice, but NK is showing a lot of cracks as of late.

Can't find it now but I recall seeing a recent video of a lady rebelling against a army officer for not letting others on a truck because he took the space for himself or something like that.
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>>78449344
Don't read comics and drive!
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it's a good comic and all but I generally hate the main character, everybody is always being nice and good to him but he's always making fun of everything related to their country (because lol it's a regimen! you are supposed to hate that kind of stuff, right?) he has no sense of kindness towards anybody.
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>>78449631
Not true he gave them 1984 and some booze also he isn't mean or anything. He is suprisingly neutral against their propaganda.
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>>78447293
Jerusalem part 1 and 2 (had to split them in halfcause file was too big)
http://www65.zippyshare.com/v/rSPNKxkU/file.html
http://www65.zippyshare.com/v/WQ79yWes/file.html
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Goddamn it. I was kind of nauseated by the end of it. That bit where he sings Bob Marley was great, I could really imagine how eerie it would have been.

Thanks for the storytime, OP

>>78448920
That was fucking brave. If this is all true this man is brave.
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>>78445494

Did the paper airplane made it to the river?

This is a important plot point.
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>>78450150
> This is a important plot point.
Are you suggesting that there is a plot point other than our Glorious Leader?
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>>78449071
>North Korean defector

Was it Yeonmi Park? She's very outspoken about her experiences in NK and escaping from there with her mother, wrote a book and makes a pretty wide lecture circuit. Read up on her if you want another story about just how horrific it is to live there.
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>>78449631
Congratulations for totally and utterly misreading the tone and content of the book. I can only assume your faulty brain's erroneous conclusions are the direct result of a personal, intellectual, or character fault of yours.
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Thank you OP
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>>78450218
>Was it Yeonmi Park?
No idea, sorry. It was a long time ago.
I can't believe how of all things like wealth and food and technology, this person was struck the most by how candid people were when interacting with each other.
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>>78450023
Shenzhen
http://www65.zippyshare.com/v/NGZuEizX/file.html
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>>78447901
Thats not exactly how it works. Its actually supposed to be a uniform credit system because China doesn't have one yet. It tracks loyalty in terms of purchases. This is in response to Chinese traveling abroad, buying up all the foreign merchandise they can find and selling it back to locals at inflated prices. Your score goes up when you buy locally rather than foreign products. It is shady but at this point kinda necessary as a lot of crooks live in China that profit off exploiting others.
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>>78447901
The worst part of sesame credit is that none of us give a shit about it.
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>>78450112
If anyone got in trouble for that it would have been the guide, not him. I'm not saying it was bad for him to do that, but he was endangering someone else with little risk to himself and I dunno if I'd call that brave.
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>>78449631
Uh oh, emotional retard in the thread everybody.
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>>78449631
>>78449631
It's very ironic, and he loves to play along as the falsely naive guy. But I think you totally misread it, he is pretty respectful and kind, he doesn't hate on anything. I would even say that he does not really make fun of the peoples he meets, nor their habits, he does not ridicule them (I dare you to find a page where he ridicules anything), he just describe them with a few funny side notes. If this is mean for you,I don't know what to say to you, aside from leave your hugbox.

Sinon merci bien OP ! J'ai découvert Guy Delisle avec ce bouquin il y a quelques années et je n'avais jamais eu l'occasion de jeter un œil a la traduction anglaise, merci pour l'upload !
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>>78448047
If I had to live in NK AND work on that I might have killed myself
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>>78448914
Same
I'm way too sarcastic for that shit
the page where he has to bow to a terrible wax statue of GREAT LEADER made me really think that I couldn't last, I would have laughed out loud.
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>>78450635
We're social animals
Communicating is the most important thing to us, and to undermine that is to undermine what makes us human. And to live in fear of being human isn't life at all.
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>>78451042
Well, he does ridicule the musuem attendants and the singing assistant, but mostly only people who are actively feeding their fellow people the bullshit
But most of the time he knows that they're just doing what they can
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>>78450112
It does seem like a eerie location especially if you're staying there for your job.

Things seem to be going down around NK again this year what with a Canadian pastor being sentenced for life of hard labour.

>He is the only Western citizen known to be held currently in North Korea.

>>78450430
Cheers!

>>78451042
>Sinon merci bien OP ! J'ai découvert Guy Delisle avec ce bouquin il y a quelques années et je n'avais jamais eu l'occasion de jeter un œil a la traduction anglaise, merci pour l'upload !

No problem, it was my pleasure to storytime it. I only discovered it when it was storytimed last year so I thought I'd do the same this year, what do you think of its translation to English?
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He seems pretty douchey to me. I've read a few things of his, it's not just North Korea, everywhere he goes he has a self-absorbed mediocrity air about him and can only seem to hold a fascination in a foreign land in so much as he can perceive it as being backwards (he's plenty respectful of individuals, but not at all of their culture).

I think it just comes with the territory of wanting to write from your own perspective. I thought the writer of Maus came off as a lame jerk. Both of them are just lucky they have interesting things and people to write about because neither seem like interesting people or interesting writers. At least Spiegelman had the sense to downplay his role as much as he could manage, becayse Delisle really puts way too much of his day-to-day who-gives-a-crap into it.
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>>78447488
>And it exists right now, while we do nothing about it.
Mostly because we can't do anything about it.
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>>78451454
>self-absorbed mediocrity air
What does this even mean?
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>>78445777
After the Bolshevik revolution, when Lenin opened the doors to foreign investors, European and American capitalists were stepping over each other to make money in Russia, despite their governments asking them not to.
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>>78451500

yeah, part of it is that China is actively propping them up and supporting the regime, and the other part is HOLY SHIT THEY HAVE NUKES AND THEIR LEADER IS FUCKING INSANE ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY USE THEM
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>>78449071
I never speak my mind on 4chan because I'm afraid of being called a Redditor.
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>>78451831
They were talking about China in those posts, not Nork. Nork exists as China's smokescreen: their human rights violations don't seem as bad as Nork's.
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>>78451867

Ah yeah, I see.
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>>78450635
North Koreas aren't near as ignorant of western technology as you might think. There's a cheap usb-based media player called a notel that fairly common in north korean households. Western TV shows get smuggled across the border from china on thumb drives and then passed around. The regime even legalized them a while back, or at least they stopped sending people to the camps for having them.

North korans know about iphones and shit, they just don't have any chance to acquire them.
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