Can we have a classic (read: traditional/2D) Disney animation thread?
I'll start by askingg: Will it ever come back? If so, Robin Hood sequel when?Don Bluth and 2D Dreamworks discussion is allowed too I guess, but don't overdo it.
Best scene in the movie.
>>78420734
man, crossdressing robin is pretty hot
>>78420764
Might just be my imagination but it seems like they changed his actual 'base' design for that costume.
Not sure why this thread isn't getting any discussion. I guess 4chan /co/ had an influx of millennials the past few years and they didn't get to experience any of the classics? A real shame if that's the case.
Man, all those great voices. Peter Ustinov and Sir Terry-Thomas were particularly brilliant in this.
Anyway here is something more recent. Brother Bear has possible the best use of colour I've ever seen in a movie. It's so highly underrated too.
>>78420508
Did they do the digital smoothing filters on this release too?
>>78420969
Millennials are as old as 34-35.
I'm nearly 30 and watched tons of classics. Its just 6am in burgerland and its a holiday.
>>78421008
Fun fact, numerous characters are voiced by actors known for doing westerns. This is because at one point in the production the setting was the old west. Explains why there's a sheriff in a medieval setting.
>>78421044
looks like it.
>>78421046
I thought 'millenials' meant anyone under the age of 20.
>>78421063
I think people are calling those "post-millennials". Then again, few can seem to come to a consensus on what age range millennials are anyway.
>>78421063
Millenials is meaningless half the time, often meaning "people younger than [the author] that [the author] doesn't like". Like, I've seen some people put it back as far as those born in 1985 which is absolutely retarded
>>78420969
I love when OP gets lonely and bitter within the first ten posts and goes off on to passive-aggressively explain why it is that nobody is posting in their thread.
>>78421050
That explains why everyone in the movie sound like they're south of mississippi.
"Ah'd lahke ta tell yall ah storey bout good ol Robin Hood"
>>78421030
Brother Bear was gorgeous, but it was tonally kind of weird and non of the songs were that memorable.
>>78421086
I'm not bitter, just disappointed there is a potentially decent thread on /co/ for once not getting enough discussion.
>>78421098
>non of the songs were that memorable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8HxQNlLhjw
I love the atmosphere in this movie, and how melancholic it is in parts.
>>78420508
Classic traditional 2D Disney is dead. Get over it.
If you want traditional 2D animation (or at least animation done with modern techniques that emulate a traditional style), you should now look outside of the US, most particularly (but nor limited to) France (Triplettes of belleville, Secret of the Kells, Ernest and Celestine, upcoming Dofus movie, etc ...)
>>78421212
>Classic traditional 2D Disney is dead.
What makes you say that? The fact that the last few major traditional released by Disney failed at the box office is completely circumstantial/the fault of the marketing it has not got much to do with the medium. Disney was on a downslope in the 70's and 80's until the new 90's golden age which would have lasted much longer if it wasn't for Toy Story utilizing the 'newer is better' meme in people's minds. And there is still this misconception floating around to this day that 2D is somehow 'inferior' to 3D. It's just sheer bad luck
>>78421267
Thing is, Disney Renaissance was instigated by Don Bluth's success and Who Framed Roger Rabbit serving as a catalyst for general interest in animation in general.
The only thing that would come close in this generation would be if all 3D films suddenly start failing really badly at box office.
Best song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jb7kJ-j_dKA
>>78421287
Why can't they just co-exist?
I started working through them a couple of weeks ago. Realised I'd seen fuck all, only ones I had memory of were Jungle Book and Lion King, although I know for a fact I used to watch Dumbo a lot when I was very young, and I'm pretty sure I saw Pocahontas and Fantasia at some point.
Rewatched Lion King, which was great, then stuck on Hercules, which was not. Mulan was very good, and I have Aladdin ready to go, then will probably rewatch Jungle Book.
What are the key ones to get on right away?
>>78420508
>>78421315
I think there's a guide floating around somewhere. Personally the must-watch movies that you didn't mention would include from the early era
>Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, Pinnochio, Bambi, Alice in Wonderland, Cinderella, Peter Pan, Robin Hood,.
Then the later stuff would be
>Beauty and the Beast, The Lion King, Lilo and Stitch, The Fox and the Hound, Hunchback of Notre Dame, The Little Mermaid, Princess and the Frog,Treasure Planet, Brother Bear.
Don't get too caught up in worrying about watching the 'grily' stuff ie 'princess' movies they are genuinely good in story and animation if you care about both.
*sigh*
>>78420508
I think it will return once in a great while as something special, but I'm not going to get my hopes up that it will make some kind of a great return.
If one movie did get a sequel, I would have personally liked to see The Great Mouse Detective get one. They could do so much with it and even had that ending as if it was setting up for another film.
It had great characters, too.
>>78421483
>*sigh*
>>78421489
The Rescuers had a better concept for sequels honestly.
>>78421384
Yeah, I'm not fussed about the "girly" stuff. I've seen hardly any Disney at all, not just the 2D side, and have Frozen and Tangled ready to go as well, just didn't mention as not relevant to the thread.
>>78420734
What's never explained is how Robin got Prince John out of his clothes.
>>78420841
That... Makes no fucking sense. I love it
>>78421098
I agree. It was a very well animated movie, but I didn't think it was a very good movie. It had a "killing animals is bad" message but it turned the main character into the earth's largest land predator, which is thematically pretty stupid and it never really gelled with me.
>>78420508
>If so, Robin Hood sequel when?
We're lucky they didn't make one in the age of Disney DTV sequels.
Since King Richard already returned at the end of the first one, it would just be random shit or a prequel with standard Robin Hood elements only with animals.
>>78421956
I never noticed that until now..
>>78420508
>starting a 2D disney thread with the shittiest disney movie of all time only some furfags like
>>78422063
It's definitely not the best, but still has a lot going for it.
>>78421986
For a sequel they could somewhat go back to the original concept and take elements from the Reynard fable.
Set it maybe a good decade after the original. Introduce Isengrim - a wolf as another of King Richard's adopted(like Maid Marian) who usurps the throne, focus on the relationship between Robin Hood and his first and only son Reynard. Let's see how Robin Hood deals with bringing up his only son into nobility, possibly with Maid Marian out of the picture(passed away). Then once again having to deal with exile/being outlaws. And throw an older(late-teens)Skippy in there somewhere too. Boom, there's a seed for a decent sequel right there. It could expand upon the themes and tone we experience in the original. And just imagine it visually executed with more contemporary techniques like Brother Bear and Princess and the Frog.
Boom.
>>78422063
It's certainly far from the best but it doesn't feel like a waste of time.
It was made during an era when people simply didn't give a fuck about Disney anymore. The baby boom from after WW2 had all grown up and Disney's target demographic was tiny. Thus Disney didn't have money so the movie was made on a budget.
If you compare this movie to earlier Disney movies like Cinderella or Snow White and also the later ones like anything from the 90s, you'll notice that this movie have fucking nothing in terms of frames and even reuses animation cycles from earlier movies.
It had to be made fast, thus the recycled animations, it had to be made cheap, thus lesser frames because lesser frames meant less money spent on color and animators.
I could name quite a few movies that i like better than this but what i do like about Robin Hood is that it doesn't try and present itself like a masterpiece like others did. It's cozy and i can appreciate for the very same reasons that i can appreciate The Sword in The Stone.
>>78422282
But it's shit.
>>78422282
so why waste your time with this garbage if you could actually watch a masterpiece instead?
Robin Hood better finally get a world in Kingdom Hearts 3 or I will track down Tetsuya Nomura and kick him square in the balls.
>>78422312
That's actually a good counter point. I haven't seen Robin Hood in 20 years, and as for the 'masterpieces' i have seen most of the ones people consider to be 'good'.
Honestly, i could use some recommendations right now.
Going to be stuck at my parent's place until new year's so i might as well.
>>78422353
Just watch any Don Bluth film or anime.
>>78422308
>Not liking Robin being one of Disney's most based heroes.
>Not liking the antics and crybaby Prince John and corrupt hick sheriff.
>Not liking the god-tier musical numbers.
I swear, RH was one of the first Disney films too good for idiot audiences.
>>78422368
I've seen everything by Don Bluth, Mamoru Hosoda and Ghibli.
>>78422390
Go to Madhouse or Studio 4C.
Angels Egg is a good start.
>>78422397
I've seen Angel's Egg and some by Studio 4C already, but the rest that i haven't, looks promising.
Thanks, dude.
>>78422421
Most of their old works are fantastic, so make sure to view those first.
Try baka.bt if you need a torrent.
>>78422390
watch some sanrio.
I especially recommend ringing bell, a must watch during the christmas season!
>Tfw you watched this movie so much as a kid you could recite most of the lines.
>>78422282
this honestly
>>78420841
I'm more curious how they have helium in the Middle Ages.
>>78420508
YIFF IN HELL, FURFAGS.
>>78423054
because they want to teach children how the real world is. Not make them have unreachable standards for the perfect life like fucking disney, now this is the stuff that really makes someone depressed.
>>78423172
If you don't think Disney movies teach real life lessons then there is something wrong with you.
>>78423267
And what sort of lessons do they teach?
>>78423267
>disney
>real life lesson
top kek mate
Speaking of Don Bluth, somebody won these.
>>78423528
And this.
>>78423528
>>78423536
Also this.
>>78421341
It bears the tumblr nose, but has fluid animation ?
>What witchery is this anon !?
>>78423769
Red noses were used in cartoons for decades, if not centuries.
>>78423558
>Hey kid, wanna /ss/?
No wonder this created so many furries
Best mom coming through!
>>78421050
The Sheriff of Nottingham was an actual historical figure and the title of sheriff predates the old west by a good 800 years.
Having said that reframing the story as a classic western was an inspired decsion.
>>78421314
Theaters have limited space.
>>78424995
Too bad her children turned out to be little shits.
Which Didney flim do I watch next out of the non marked ones? Also what do you guys think of The Arisocats? It's my favorite Disney movie personally.
>>78427960
you haven't seen Snow White, Pinocchio AND Fantasia?
are you kidding me you goddamn pleb
>>78428042
I've actually seen Snow White and Fantasia when I was very young so I don't really remember any of either. I plan on watching everything on the list anyway so I'll get to them.
>>78421137
>my thread is better than other threads
cri moar
>>78427960
I've always liked the Jungle Book.
Watch it.
>>78424995
Mrs Brisby is a better example of a strong, well written female character than any of the forced SJW bullshit you see now.
>>78422397
>Badhouse
Bones is where it's at, my man.
>>78420508
I used to watch this all the time as a kid. The opening tune was stuck in my head long before it became a meme.
>>78422312
What a shitty attitude.
>why waste time with movies when you could be watching your favorite movie over and over
>why waste your time with all these shit songs when you could be listening to your favorite song over and over
>why waste time with food when you could be eating your favorite dish only
Just because something isnt the absolute best in a given field doesnt mean its not good and/or worth your while.
>>78427960
Sleeping Beauty is gorgeous, the backgrounds are absolutely stellar.
>>78421085
>which is absolutely retarded
Not really. One generation typically lasts somewhere between 18-22 years, so if you were to define "Millennials" as the last born before the 21st century, they would be those born between before 2000 but after 1980 (or as late as 1982). Generation X would then be those born between about 1963 and 1982, Baby Boomers would be 1943-1963, and so on. Defining Millennials as simply anybody under the age of 20, as >>78421063 said, would extend the length of Gen X from 1963 to 1995.
Chances are, most people browsing this site (i.e. the 18-34 demographic) are all Millennials. If the pre-2000 definition of the generation is used, then you won't see "post-Millennials" legally posting on this site for another couple years.
>>78427960
Fuck all of those watch: Atlantis, Brother Bear, and Hercules
Then watch Titan AE, the last of Don Bluth
>>78427960
Aristocats is pretty forgettable aside from that singing number near the end. One of the weaker films honestly
>>78427960
Don't bother with Black Cauldron or Tarzan they are legitimately bad.
>>78431831
>>78427960
Black cauldron had a legitimately scary villain
Probably the only one in Disney history
![tarzan-1999-review-clayton-death-hanging-disney-animated-film[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/JKlxQ8W.jpg "tarzan-1999-review-clayton-death-hanging-disney-animated-film[1].jpg")
>>78431831
>tarzan
>bad
nope. and had the best waifu of all time
when this scene came on, i was actually shocked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2YVeovK9Nw
>>78424995
Mrs. Brisby became a strong 2nd when I watched this movie. /co/ was talking about it weeks ago so I gave a go. Leafie made me cry too much and set a heartbreaking example of a mother's love and sacrifice.
>>78421093
>south of the mississippi
>>78420508
>Cartoon has anthro characters in it
>Thread is filled with "HURR FURFAGS YIFF IN HELL LMAO"
Man I sure do love discussing cartoons on a cartoon board, huh.
>>78427960
DUMBO
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>>78431556
But I've also seen the term used to describe teens born in 2000, I've barely seen "post-millenial" used.
>>78424995
Sexiest voice
>>78437518
Shame about the suicide.
>>78421267
Honestly that title fits Shrek more than Toy Story. Shrek was just alternate way of Jeffery Katzenberg saying fuck you to Disney just because he didn't get a promotion.
>>78423568
> bard gives a buff to the cleric.webm
Also if big hero 6 was on here it would have an x.
>>78438363
>big hero 6 was on here it would have an x.
That movie was so fucking bland and forgettable.
>>78438431
4 u
>>78438758
You just want to fuck the shota, don't you?
>>78423031
and rubber for that matter
>>78438431
Well like frozen I've only seen some parts of it. The end and some of the middle. I had to sit threw that goddamn end credits scene a lot.
Who else agrees that Road to Eld Dorado is possible one of Disney's greatest achievements?
This probably the best Disney sequel made
>>78421030
This is probably my favourite post-TLK Disney movie. So lush and well told.
>>78432071
>the carnivore cries when she eat the chicken
>oh and there are tons of dead chickens nearby
I always thought those part of the movie as head in the ass retarded.
>>78441761
But that isn't Disney and this exist.
>>78438363
>chicken little
>brother bear
>classics
>>78427960
>tfw bolt was the return to form for Disney that everybody ignored
>tfw it could have been so much better
>>78442172
If only we could have been given Sanders original American Dog concept instead.
>>78421314
People will always choose only one side
>>78442134
Brother Bear is pretty good though, Anon. Chicken Little a shit, however.
>>78420734
Do you think Robin had a boner during this whole segment? Asking for a friend, hahaI think he did
>>78444519
We can all tell that you did.
