New avengers #4
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>>78382846
Haha time for BEST AVENGERS
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>>78382911
A-force ain't out yet anon
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>>78382937
zoom punch
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>>78382967
I like where this is going
>>78382910
>the star-sword Excelsior
Baller
>>78382976
How do we defeat POD?
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>>78383020
Uncle was right, magic must defeat magic.
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>>78383080
So is he in Billy's mind now?
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>>78382846
What Avengers are this, the one with the old Captain America or the black one or the ones with inhumans?
>>78383106
>>78383109
no this is the one with the gay wizard, gay alien, gay finnish girl, dying mugga, lady who makes hard sound, and squirrel girl.
>>78382990
POD a cute.
>>78382910
>Love can bloom on the battlefield
>>78383129
>mini Nova on Caps shield
It's coming
>>78383176
She's a gay, lonely, robot nerd.
I am so into her.
>>78383781
And she's also a top tier QT. Let's not forget that.
>>78383834
I... like her current form better.
>>78383884
>being a robophile
>2015
Fucking Christ anon, I'm sorry to break it to you but youhave great taste.
>>78382990
Starbrand.
It goes Starbrand > Justice > Spitfire (AKA POD) > Nightmask
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>>78383080
>Teddy has a storyline where Billy didn't nose his way into being the lead
>Teddy has become a space barbarian king of Night Elves
>Teddy has a story separate from Billy
>Billy wasn't an insufferable cunt
Ewing Young Avengers when?
>>78383129
Alright, since I couldn't stand Gillen's YA run after Issue 3, why is the name Demiurge relevant? Please and thank you.
>>78384225
wiccan becomes a multiversal god and creates America's home dimension
>>78384225
How do you pronounce Demiurge?
I have been saying Deh-Me-Urge
>>78384171
>Ewing Young Avengers when?
This is essentially Ewing's Young Avengers, except now that they're not so young anymore, they dropped the "young" part.
Hopefully Kate pops in for a visit.
>>78383106
Oh hey, people called it.
>>78384225
Future Wiccan will become the Demiurge a being that will rewrite the rules of magic. The consequences of that action go into the past and the future, ie he created Miss America's universe.imho Young Avengers gets better after issue 3.
>>78384225
The Demiurge was a recurring name for a Vishanti-tier god of magic that may or may not have been Billy throughout the time he was writing Iron Man and Young Avengers. A prophesied "Day of the Demiurge" has been occurring across the multiverse one universe at a time where the laws of magic have been rewritten, leaving one incarnation of Doom trying to breach other dimensions including 616 so he could gain power from those.
Also relevant because a lot more alternate futures are showing Billy becoming Sorcerer Supreme at some point.
>>78384225
In Gillen's YA, it's revealed that at some point in the future, Billy goes full on reality warping cosmic god and starts calling himself The Demiurge, creating various universes in his image, including Ms. America's universe. He briefly taps into that power at the end of the run but realises it's way too much for him to handle and that becoming the Demiurge could have horrible ramifications.
Him going down the path to becoming the Demiurge when there's an evil space wizard inhabitting his mind is not good.
>>78384336
Demiurge is basically the gnostic Satan, only worse because its Satan who's taken power from god to control the false material universe so yeah.
Anyone becoming a guy named that is b a d.
>>78382910
half night elf, half draenei.
>>78382929
>space wizard
>>78384553
I love how ridiculously campy this series is.
>>78383020
Nice to see Hawkeye actually getting to do something without being the butt of a joke for once
>>78384607
He was getting "cool dad" jokes this entire issue.
>>78384581
Same here. It's so goddamn enjoyable, and the best part is that it plays it completely straight instead of going "LOOK HOW CRAZY THIS IS HAHA"
>>78382937
> you M'ryn?
> Im M'ryn
>>78383834
>green eyes
Almost perfect.
>>78382891
>every one is dying
>Those staying behind are sacrificing themselves for the sake of humanity
>I eat lots of walnuts for the omega-3
THIS IS HOW YOU WRITE SQUIRREL GIRL
>>78382955
Knuckle claws are a neat trick he hasn't tried before
>>78382955
GOMU GOMU NO
MAGE BUSTER
>>78383106
Oh great more Demiurge nonsense
>>78383037
>Magic sword shapeshifter knight roll D20 to ATTACK THE OCTOPUS SATANIST AND SAVE THE SPACE ELVES
Best
MARVEL
BOOK
EVER
What a waste of paper and ink, piece of shit comic.
>>78385167
She knows not to worry herself too much over things she has no control over.
>Old God
>Prince with magic sword (who might fall to corruption)
>Prince has corrupt wizard
>bunch of murder hobos saving the day (Avengers)
It feels like WotLK with Yogg-Saron, Arthas, Kel'Thuzad and a bunch of players
>>78383176
she's an angle
>>78384378
I'd find Billy becoming Demiurge so much more interesting if it was actually because he was evil or influenced by something evil. And the whole rewriting the laws of magic across the multiverse thing was because he wanted to screw over every other sorcerer out there.
Plus it would force America Chavez to deal with the fact that her god was evil and her lesbian utopian homeworld was a mistake.
>>78383129
Who is that supposed to be on the shield?
Please tell me it's Richard
>>78385874
I know Nova is a GL clone, but I doubt Marvel is THAT self-aware.
>>78383129
Gay Wizard
Gay Alien
Gay Robot
Ethnic Leader
Dye Hair
Fat Tumblrina
IT SHOULD BE EVERYTHING I HATE
But it's best Marvel book out there
>>78382891
>not strictly a mutant
in other words, a revolving door for re-retcon, once the movie rights change?
>>78382929
>Anonymous 12/23/15(Wed)10:38:54 No.78382863â–¶>>78382891
>File: New Avengers (2015-) 004-002.jpg (1.72 MB, 1988x3056)
You mean the Wymen Powah bait comic.
>>78385167
you mean, quirky randumb and unfunny?
>>78383037
have these two used 'babe' before? I enjoy it but it sounds new for Teddy
>>78386133
Songbird's hair isn't dyed.
>>78386164
Read her comic.
They had a full page about this a month or two ago.
>>78383106
and now the Demiurge will be his evil atlerego.
>>78386217
I mean, the short, unironic, jewel of nonsensicak humour that puts editorial bullshit in its place without making a show of itself
>Oh Squirrel Girl! How did you handle secret invasion
Oh I was too busy fighting gallactus off pannel
>Oh Squirrel Girl, how did you survive the terrigen Holocaust?
Lots of Omega 3. Squirrels.
>>78386935
>read her comic
why would you ever do that to yourself
The Knights are fun but I can't believe they're gone already. Next solicits are about Wiccan and the future avengers. When will Teddy get to be protagonist for a full arc?
>>78387630
It's a big team. Can't focus on one character for too long. After the Avengers 20XX arc is a White Tiger focused issue followed by the Wiccan/Demiurge focused issue, followed by the Standoff! tie-in. That'll probably lead right into the Civil War 2 tie-in. I'm sure we'll get back to the Knights of the Infinite stuff once everyone has gotten a turn.
Gotta get a Pod issue in there somewhere.
>>78387693
Wiccan focus issue comes before White Tiger. Solicits say the futurevengers will be in 5+6, so that's another ~2 issues for Demiurge plot that technically started this issue. Assuming that's the 'catastrophe' in 5.
Hopefully POD will really join the team for Standoff/Civil War, gotta get that robot gay representation
>>78383106
So Billy is Thor's grandfather afterall...
>>78386582
So how is it like this?
Fuck... Did Norbert implant her white and pink hairs?
>>78388346
Fixer changed it on a genetic level. That's why it remained white and pink even when she was homeless in Dark Reign.
>>78388211
Bor is Thor's grandfather.
>>78382863
Why does EVERYONE have to shit on Clint? Songbird at the very least should respect him for his time as Thunderbolts leader
>>78388601
Demiurge is Gaea's father and Gaea is Thor's mother. And by extension Demiurge is Thor's grandfather. It is common sense really. Dunno how you fail to see this.
Meh. Still no maker.
>>78383068
Kl'rt the he Super-Skrull is the current Skrull Emperor, right? He actually wanted Billy to take the throne so he might be able to get the Skrulls to follow him.
Not sure about the Kree, I'm not sure what Bendis has planned for them.
>>78386935
the comic itself contradict that. it says that the doctor doesn't know himself
>>78387147
hurr hurr. how funny. not.
>>78388211
So that means the Scarlet Witch is Thor's Great-Grandmother
>>78388601
Thor has two grandfathers
His mother Jord aka Gaia was born of the original Demiurge
>>78388822
Has thor and the Scarlet Witch ever banged?
>>78388211
Different Demiurge, bruh.
>>78388641
>Doesn't know the higherarchy of Marvel cosmic pre-90's Major Arcana
Forgive me oh wise man, but I enjoy sex.
>>78382863
How come Forson never had to deal with all the crap Roberto has to deal with? Nobody ever tried to arrest Forson despite him blatantly attacking other countries and doing criminal activities. They even put AIM on the UN Security Council.
>>78389103
That anon was pointing out that saying that Demiurge can't be Thor's grandfather because Bor is his grandfather is stupid because by definition everyone has 2 grandfathers.
Also, you're pulling the "I have sex" card while posting on 4chan? Seriously?
>>78389229
See, now you made it weird.
It's comics man, just enjoy this shit
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>>78382990
Emotional rejection.
You can't shoot a broken heart.
Well, not without offig yourself, which would be the definition of a self-defeating strategy.
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>>78382917
>the killers started playing 10 years ago
Is space satanic squid the best new villain of ANAD just for the concept?
>>78391200
For stealing from the right people?
Yeah, maybe just for that.
>>78389154
Forson wasn't a mutant, for one. Also, Forson burned all the good will. Fool me once, type deal.
>Yeah, but we're the GOOD AIM
>yeah, well, that's what the last Scientist Supreme said
>>78382929
>Wiccan is prince consort already
>>78384256
demi-urge
I think technically the word is meant to be demithurge, but people stopped using that ages ago.
in gnosticism, the demiurge is the false god born into the empty universe that believed itself the universe's creator and thus shaped the universe as he saw fit.
Actually, Gnostic would be a great codename for Wiccan.
>>78385798
>I'd find Billy becoming Demiurge so much more interesting if it was actually because he was evil or influenced by something evil.
You mean like what was just confirmed to be happening in this issue?
>>78394121
It's kind of retarded that Wiccan can't call himself Wiccan
Wiccans are biddy ol' forest witches who believe in wonly gods like frost giants and try to cast magic the best way they can, through rituals meant to channel their wants and desires into the universe, and if they're righteous, having it returned upon them
GUESS WHAT
WICCAN CASTS MAGIC BY CHANNELING HIS WANTS INTO THE UNIVERSE
AND
HE BELIEVES IN GODS. WHY HE'S IN A TEAM WITH ONE OF THEM. AND HE KNOWS ANOTHER THREE. ONE OF THEM WAS A FROST GIANT
HE IS LITERALLY A WICCAN
>>78394455
His powers manifest through Wiccan symbolism, such as pentagrams and shit
He's seriously, the most Wiccan thing in the entire 616
Clint should be the first one to go: >Cursed sword and dark magic, huh? Better check the ol' Black Knight protocols.
I haven't read this since issue one, and that was mostly b/c of Songbird. I might pick it up if this series is___fun___.
Do you think it is so far?
>>78395312
Hell yes.
Throw Patriot/Eli Bradley in this and it's sold for me.
>>78395312
Absolutely
>>78395312
It's a pretty fun ride, but it may get derailed by events in the next few months
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>>78395462
Good enough for me, I'll grab the rest. Thanks.
>>78394455
Literally zero practitioners of Wicca care about the use of the name as long as "LOL DEVIL WORSHIPPERS" doesn't pop up in conversation.
>>78395476
Only if he replaces Power Man.
White Tiger and POD centric arcs when? Book is based desu senpai. Why is Ewing such a bro?
>>78385874
>Tiny Dick
>>78395923
I like Powerman even if it's like, 90% certain he's the traitor.
>>78396844
White Tiger is getting an issue focused on her coming up. We'll have to wait and see for POD.
>>78396844
Because he sticks to continuity, focuses on characters and only occasionally lets his political views seep through his writing, which is better than I can say for most current Marvel writers.
really enjoying this book, thanks for posting
>>78395608
Standoff tie-in seems fun.
I'm glad that it'll be cancelled at issue #12
>>78401065
>cancelled mid event
Try again, mouthbreather.
>>78401115
The sales for the book are atrocious.
last issue dropped to 30k
>>78401175
>New Avengers 3 - 41,630
http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2015/2015-11.html
>>78382910
>Excelsior
>>78388641
Different Demiurge
>>78382910
So....Hulkling and Wiccan have to kiss. That's the story, right? I missed last issue when they were abducted, so that's what they seem like they must have professed love in the last issue and now they are getting married and kissing. Right?
>>78382929
>love to the universe
we Starfire now? Gay Starfire?
>>78382967
>tentacle porn
>butt fucked wiccan
I don't mind gay, but do they have to be this graphic
>>78404198
If you actually want to see them kissing, you have to read Young Avengers. Someday maybe we'll get flashback on how they went from getting recruited by a sixteen year old Kang the Conqueror to dating each other.
>>78404429
>Not even reading Venom raping peter comics
lol faggot
>>78382989
Wait, wait. If they are doing what I think they are doing, Marvel has issued a death knell for Stan Lee! He's going to die! There can't be a star sword named Excelsior in Marvel Comics unless they think something is up
>>78391200
I just love their new concept of it being now "the 8th universe." Galactus came from the 6th version (high science skills, plus Galactus is a 6 lettered name), Marvel as we knew it before ANAD was 7th and most powerful objects were the Infinity Gems/Cosmic Cube (6+1 = 7), and ANAD is the 8th and it is powered literally by ISO-8 as the new McGuffin. The 5th dimension must be "old ways" like the source of magic etc. and well, Lovecraftian horrors. Magic is a 5-lettered word. Each world had a different high form of creating. Each new world includes elements of the past worlds. No idea what ISO-8 does other than grants "programmable" powers within certain specified sizes.
>New Avengers focuses on defense of magic and the old ways
>Ultimates focuses on defense of new universe threats and fabric of current reality
>Avengers focuses on the world at large
>>78383227
You realize that the people who write this shit browse all the same boards we do, right?
>>78406663
>Galactus is a 6 lettered name
do they not teach kids to count these days or am I missing something
>>78391200
I have a thing for space squid wizards, so for me definitely.
>>78406663
saved, true or not that is cool. I doubt Marvel could pull that off.
>>78407236
hey, it's Christmas Eve and this man has a bottle of Malbec. Hunger is a 6 letter word. Galactus... hungers
ISO-8 = 8 = Infinity is an 8 lettered word
"words have power, a form of basic magic" -- Doctor Strange
I'm tipsy, but I think I'm on to it
>>78407789
Malbec is a six lettered word. Galactus loves to drink Malbec. Thirst is a 6 lettered word. Galactus... Thirsts.
>>78406663
Wiccan uses words as commands to warp reality. He must "speak" into existence his changes. Words have power
>this is going into hyperreality
>>78406663
Prolly next Avengers event will deal with the earlier universes.
>>78389103
>90's Major Arcana
?
>>78389103
I hope you die tonight
