Didn't Sugar say that there's gonna be no "villains" in her series.
Then how would that work out after everything we've seen with Homeworld so far?
They'll probably be revealed to be morally gray and have ulterior motives of some kind.
I'm not sure, though.
>>78344196
Being too logical might work
>>78344356
Feel free to go and have fun
>>78344110
She lied, she lied every single time. since the beggining
>>78344672
Just you wait when Sugar makes Jasper DEEP n stuff
>Didn't Sugar say that there's gonna be no "villains" in her series.
For the first season
People like Jasper and Peridot and Yellow Diamond are probably doing what they think is right by gem culture and standards.
It goes against human interests though.
>>78344948
Jasper: proving muh self, have low confidence. Have to prove I'm worthy
YD: FOR LE GOOD OF MUH PEOPLE/PLANET
there
>>78344999
damn you're smart
>>78344110
>after everything we've seen with Homeworld so far?
We haven't seen anything. Have we?
>>78344948
Jasper is unredeemeable, and you know it perfectly well. There's no happy ending for her.sorry for distroying your expectations about your waifu
so they are decepticons?
>>78345074
-rigid caste system
-destroys planets to produce gems regardless of its inhabitants
-"harvests" gems as punishment, whatever that is
>>78344948
Jasper is a soldier doing her job. If that job changes, so does her motives. There's nothing deep to it. Do you think Peridot was "deep" too?
What if this happens in Message Received?
>"The communication tower was broken, but whenever I went back I kept finding it repaired, so I sent multiple messages. Looks like it was the very last one that reached Yellow Diamond!"
>everyone looks at Pearl
>>78345222
But Peridot's arc right now is showing it
>>78345185
Also fuses dead Gems into giant abominations as weapon.
They might be at war with a different race in order to need such WMD
>>78344110
By giving them a reason to be in the right, from their point of view.
"We had a strong empire, our people had security. Rose Quartz tore it to pieces and doomed our people to a slow, meaningless death. If we can harness your healing power, we can bring everyone back to life, we can make it so this whole stupid War never happened... Unfortunately, it will take every last drop... It's your life for countless billions. Tell me i'm a villain for wanting to save us all?"
>>78344110
Either gray morality of trying to do something good by being bad.
Or she's a bad guy but will eventually become a good person.
>>78345295
It's not showing her as deep just doing her job, nothing deep about it
>>78345298
>They might be at War with a different Race
>Post yfw Gay Rock Men
>>78345298
Giant fusion monster bigger than the planet?
Man, I have a bad feeling this will escalate to silly sizes if the show lasts a couple more years
Jasper is said to be Red/White/Black
So she's not just impulsive and wants to destroy for the lulz, she's like a dog. If the superior orders her to do something, she'll do everything to accomplish it and please them, but she also has enough free will (like deciding to bring Steven to YD instead of completing her mission)
>>78345363
Gay Metal Men
>>78345363
>The war is finally over
>Both gems discover that they can mate and have offspring, way more easier that digging in the ground
>>78344110
>Didn't Sugar say that there's gonna be no "villains" in her series.
No, she never said this. Why do you think there's no quote of her saying this.
>>78345488
so... transformers?
>>78345526
no, Judas Priest
>>78344999
That jasper motivation was clearly a rushed example but it makes a lot of since, Gems are made rather than born so logically they'd make improvements to the new generations of warrior gems.
Jasper dates back to Rose's rebellion, so is probably a knight among tanks when compared to the modern warrior gems
>>78345250
>Yellow Diamond sends more gems to Earth
>even more waifufaggotry arises
>>78346445
Next gem to be revealed is Emerald, by dad works at Rebecca Sugar.
>>78346712
Your dad is Rebecca Sugar.
>>78344948
Jasper is easier to redeem than Peridot. She's the only HW Gem who didn't try to kill Steven, and clearly operates on some sense of honor (unlike Peri, who's driven purely by saving her own skin).
Even Lapis has done more bad stuff than her.
>>78346768Well he is a Jewish boy.
>>78344110
I guess an aggressive but competent leader who does what is best for her Homewrold whose interests just so happen to clash with Stevens.
Maybe to make her not a villain they can do abit of diplomacy, maybe YD makes compromises and isn't just a cackling psychopath as much as a Machiavellian following the interests of her country.
>>78345250
PEARL FUCKS UP AGAIN: NEWS AT 10
>>78345363
>mfw
>>78346804
I mean, Jasper did punch Steven in the face, and then poof Garnet.
>>78347089
And chose not to shatter either of them.
Plus she was doing the right thing, from her perspective. She's not selfish or sadistic.
I'm really hoping that they don't have steven become BEST BUDS with her in the end, I want her to be a genuine “bad guy" but with her own motivations and shit, basically like what's best for her people kind thing
>>78347130
Well, when you see an alien species with Rose's powers and gem, obviously you'd take it to the research department
>>78347245
She didn't kill the other Gems, either.
>>78347190
I'm conflicted on this.
I want YD to be a menace, and a threat for Steven to overcome.
But I also feel like its an excellent opportunity for Steven to get some character building, so I'm thinking YD tries to talk to him and be reasonable instead of just shoot first talk later.
>>78347297
Maybe she tries to be diplomatic at first, but when Steven disagrees with her and she decides he can't be reasoned with, she goes full ruthless.
>>78347297
I prefer that YD is calm, polite and doesn't attack first.
But Steven soon realizes sh's cold, unethical, and cares very little about feelings as long as it maintains order, like YHWH in SMT
>>78347325
See I could understand this, but it still feels kinda shallow. Maybe a bit more shade of grey?
Like YD just doesn't attack Steven at all. Crystal Gems? Yep, but Steven she is convinced is really innocent in all this, and not a target.
>>78347325
What if she's so convinced that she's right that Steven cannot reason with her, and is forced into a do or die situation?
Still like the idea of an outside threat. Why would they have to produce masses of soldiers if they weren't involved in a war? The Cluster seems like a pretty big deal to engineer just for the hell of it. If she's fighting for survival, why would she try to reason with Steven at all?
>>78347452
Empathy, maybe. History with Rose? She can still be a character with feelings that aren't all about ambition and efficiency.
>>78347485
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that the Kindergartens were established before the rebellion. The holes and connection with Amethyst seem to indicate that they were mass producing Jaspers, which once again would be odd to do if they were in a state of peace. Smashing millions of dead gems into a planet-sized weapon also seems pretty ridiculous if they were able to largely nullify the threat of the rebellion without it.
So will steven actually grow up and look older? Cause that would be pretty awesome.
>>78344948
>Just you wait when Sugar makes Jasper DEEP n stuff
[sarcasm] That's impossible. Jasper is confirmed to have no connection to anything else. Especially not the fusion experiments introduced shortly after she was, which all share her most unique physical trait that no other Gem has. Jasper was designed only "to look cool" and there can be no other reason for her appearance. We must unquestioningly accept such out-of-show statements as the whole truth, since writers are required by law to reveal plot points months in advance when asked about a fan theory that happens to be correct.[/sarcasm]
>>78347429
>but Steven she is convinced is really innocent in all this, and not a target.
Or she realizes Steven can be used as an asset, what with having Rose's healing ability.
>>78347452
Somehow adding a bigger threat feels like more of a cop-out than self-preservation. I mean, either way they'd be fighting for survival, at least in the latter scenario the Gems don't become victims just for the sake of sympathy points.
>>78347569
That's true, and we shouldn't forget that Homeworld up to now has been billed as intolerant, authoritarian, xenophobic and despotic coupled with being rampantly imperialistic.
But I think that YD as a gem cares about Gems in her caste, she respects power. So it follows that she respected Rose Quartz, a gem of immense power. Its actually very probable that she and Rose knew each other and were friends at one point.
So YD as a character could be empathetic to Rose as an individual, enough to actually give a damn about Steven, but still be a tough as nails ruler.
You know, I wrote that reply out then looked at your post again. My post was answering you very last question; why she would reason with Steven, not about the peace or war stuff.
>>78347645
>Asset
Maybe abit of both, emotionally she wants it and its practically justifiable as asset collection.
>>78347297
>YD comes across as cold and manipulative
>Turns out it was just because she was trained to be that way when she was created
>It's literally in her genetics to be a ruthless conqueror
>She's tired of seeing life-filled worlds destroyed just because "it's her job," but knows she is not able to go against her programming
>Decides to have Earth be her final test to see if they're strong enough to survive or if they'll just be another reason why she exists
>>78347636
lmao what a stupid theory
>>78347636
This is reaching.
Matt said she was a complicated character, but i seriously doubt anything like this is related.
>>78347892
>Jasper
>complicated
Better then lapis 'once a prisoner always a prisoner'
>>78344110
Two things:
First, we've only seen what the Crystal Gems have shown us. Given that they fought against Homeworld, they aren't exactly reliable as a reference for who is bad and who is good.
Second, Homeworld TECHNICALLY hasn't done anything wrong. They need to sacrifice planets in order to procreate; a species has only a responsibility to itself and it's own people. Homeworld need not care for the lives of some massively under-evolved apes when the survival of Gemkind is at stake.
I mean... holy shit, look at the horrendous things Humanity does to EACH OTHER, and we all share the same planet. Do you think if our only method of reproduction was to rape an inhabited planet we'd hesitate for even one second to hatefuck every last living man, woman, and child there to death?
>>78347636
Please stop this shit autist
Jasper is too much of a dick to be a morally grey character like this thread is suggesting. She figuratively raped Lapis for power.
>>78347945
>nothing wrong
They violated the golden rule of do unto others as you would to yourself.
>>78347979
True, but you can still give a shade of grey with motivations, backgrounds and such. Although her actual actions are pretty well in the black
>>78347636
Jasper looks like shit with one color, same with her eyes being different from non-fusions.
>>78347645
>Somehow adding a bigger threat feels like more of a cop-out than self-preservation.
I agree, it's not a good story direction to have an established antagonist say "we're not so evil, those OTHER aliens are evil, go fight them!", because either it's still Good vs. Evil with a red herring in the middle, or now there's a whole other faction to develop morally ambiguous motives for.
>>78347979
women can't rape, you misogynist
>>78348015
>They violated the golden rule of do unto others as you would to yourself.
The golden rule is horseshit even here on Earth, why the fuck would space aliens give a shit about it?
>>78347864
>>78347892
>>78347976
>>78348042
That is not an argument.
>>78348087
Its a design choice. If you take her stripes away she looks plain as fuck. She has those pupils to make her more intimidating.
Your theory is shit.
>>78348087
I'm not trying to argue, sperg. I'm laughing at your "PROVE ME WRONG" attitude.
>>78348087
>dodging any form of debate by writing it off as 'not an argument'.
>>78348058
That's true. Although, it could be done right, even great if handled correctly.
Linking the antagonists reasons to fallout from whatever Rose did would be a great way to do it. Say a Gem civil war broke out and hasn't ended since as a result of Rose- that would be enough to make Steven feel something as a character and flesh out Homeworld and gem culture whilst providing a motivation for callousness that doesn't end with the characters in question being "evil" in the end
>>78348087
I would have been totally behind you if you hadn't added an FAQ at the end. It shows you think too highly of yourself and your own opinions.
>>78347636
Or maybe she has stripes because orange jaspers have stripes and because the crewniverse has said multiple times that they make designs based on what they think looks cool.
But maybe I only think that way because I'm not retarded.
>>78348125
Yes, it is a choice. No one was forced to do it.
I can conceive of other ways to make her arms less plain that don't cause her to resemble the fusion experiments. Giving her gloves would be just as effective and simpler to animate.
And I never mentioned her eyes, what is wrong with you.
>>78348270
>>78348201
>Homeworld uses a huge amount of manpower to put down the rebellion.
>The implied weapon used at the end of the rebellion was a last-ditch effort because they couldn't keep fighting at such high losses.
>This is a double-given if their civilization was facing some kind of demographic crisis before this.
>War weariness and instability cause a gem civil war.
>This has been going on for thousands of years.
>Steven has to come to grips with the fact that his mom's actions not only killed her followers, but millions of gems over the last several thousand years as well.
I could dig it.
>>78348329
>>78348350
This.
The weapons stuff fits great with the current lore we know now.
Infact I'm screen-capping this. I really want this to happen.
>>78348361
What's that supposed to mean?
>>78348181
>debate
I'm sorry, how may I debate such COMPELLING arguments as "what a stupid theory" and "please stop"?
>>78348329
Uh-oh. UH-OH! BOOM!
I can keep blowing you out of the water all day, motherfucker.
>>78348603
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>78348201
I agree it could be done right, but why do it right with three factions if it could be done right with just two? Having a third party would just needlessly overcomplicate the plot.
>>78347636
>>78348329
>>78348361
>>78348603
Sorry faggot, there is only one form of opal. All others are just virgin loser's wet dream.
>>78348603
I don't see a second skin color on her.
>>78348087
That's not a very good theory
>>78344110
The bigger question is: Who would be the perfect voice for Yellow Diamond?
My vote goes to Barbara Goodson.
>>78348845
What if she talked like the retarded kid from South Park, Nathan or whatever
we
>>78348603
>>78348634
>>78348714
>>78348986
>When your end game villain sound like Scott Malkinson, the diabetes kid.
>>78349060
>What's so bad about taking orders from me?
>Shut up Yellow Diamond "I'm Yellow Diamond, I've got a lisp and diabetes"
>>78348845
Aisha Tyler, Wendy Malick, Olivia Wilde.
Alternately, J. K. Simmons.
YELLOW DIAMOND WANTS PICTURES. PICTURES OF ROSE QUARTZ!
>>78349028
As has already been pointed out, Jasper has stripes because it looks cool and because jaspers have stripes. What about that are you not getting?
>>78349214
The fact that opals also have stripes.
Also, am I supposed to believe every single one of the shards used for fusion experiments came from Jaspers?
>>78349028
She could possibly have more than one skin color, have you ever seen her naked?
>>78349028
Anon, jaspers are striped, and Jasper having stripes is also a reference to how soldiers put war paint on their face before battle.
>>78349344
>Anon, jaspers are striped
What do you think opals look like? They can easily have four or five distinct hues close together.
Hell, sardonyx is striped the same way as jasper, and in the same family of minerals as jasper, but the Gem named after it has one skin color.
>>78348845
Lesley Staples.
>Can't you see?
>Can't you see how much they need each other?
>>78349580
You're just gonna keep arguing until you make everyone believe your headcanon is fact, when it obviously isn't, aren't you?
>>78349639
You're just going to repeat the same debunked excuse about jasper the mineral having stripes, aren't you?
>>78347979
She's less of a dick than Peridot.
Also, Lapis raped Jasper. It was a rape-and-switch.
>>78349580
Yes, but Jasper is meant to look like she has war paint.
>>78349749
The theory makes no sense anon. The cluster experiments happened near the end of the war. Jasper was a warrior that fought during the beginning war. She can't be a successful cluster experiment like you keep claiming she is.
>>78349827
To be fair, we've only seen 'A' Jasper during the war, and it was a hologram. This Jasper could have been experimented on fairly recently, for all we know.
>>78349279
>The fact that opals also have stripes.
Not all opals have stripes. In fact, very few do. Most have spots, speckles, or prismatic filtering. Some have very solid colors, or change colors depending on which angle you hold them or how light hits the surface.
An opal is possibly the single worst example you could use for your little theory, friend.
>>78349827
She fought for most of the war without having two skin colors, and became an experiment near the end. She was a Jasper the entire time, she just got an upgrade. What is so hard to understand?
>>78349955
What? Where are you getting that she had one skin color during the war?
>>78349923
>being this pedantic
Spots and speckles are still multicolored.
Are you going to tell me this rock is a single color?
>>78349915
How do we know that's a Jasper?
>Crew has only said, "We haven't seen any male fems yet. Doesn't mean they don't exist."
>YD shows up several times in the shadows, remains silent.
>Finally speaks.
>Christopher Walken.
>>78349989
Well, do you have any evidence that she didn't? It's completely possible she was enhanced with shards during the war, and that would not contradict anything we know about the timeline.
You seem to think I was claiming Jasper was grown as a fusion experiment. I addressed that. She is a whole Gem with shards added.
>>78350032
>Not Kanye West.
It'd just be 20 minutes of YD being confused and constantly calling Garnet Estelle.
>>78350032
But Steven exists. Hell technically there are more male gems than female gems, cause none of the gems are really female.
>>78350115
>Shard enhancement.
I have never heard of this theory until this thread. If this is a reference to how real life Jaspers are agates, then it makes no sense.
>>78350191
>If this is a reference to how real life Jaspers are agates
It's not. Why would it be?
>>78350134
Oh come on, we all know that excuse only holds so much water. Besides, you think someone's going to bother to type "female-looking" Gem every time?
>>78350025
It doesn't need to be a single color. The simple fact is that there's no hard or fast rule for how a gem's skin should be. The colors of Opal's gems match that of real opals, and that's all that matters. Or do you think they really want to animate the constantly changing flecks of color within an opal as part of Opal's skin?
Jasper isn't a fusion, she's not a mutant, she's just a jasper. Deal with it.
>>78350235
Because your theory would at least make a little sense if it referenced how some jaspers are formed like agates.
>>78350256
>there's no hard or fast rule for how a gem's skin should be
Then there is logically no causal relation between Jasper's name and her skin colors, so saying the latter is BECAUSE OF the former is a lie.
Why are we still arguing with this retard? Its obvious he won't listen to us.
Lets talk about the upcoming episode. What kind Gems do you think we'll meet?
>>78350456
Jerky Homeworld ones.
>>78348061
But Lapis is a woman too, and anything that a woman doesn't like is rape
>>78350456
More fusions like Jasper
>>78350555
Ten bucks says we'll see one of the HW gems step right on a plant.
>>78350618
>It's gonna be Sapphire.
>>78347636
You know, I could almost enjoy this theory if you weren't so much of an autist about it
>>78350648
>Sapphire
>feet
>>78350700
Where do you think Garnet gets them?
>>78350456
Emerald's pretty much a given, seeing as how it's the last precious gem.
Well known semi-precious stones like turquoise, topaz, and agate.
Maybe other organic gems like amber and abalone.
I don't think we're going to have a proper introduction to every gem, there's too many. The only one I really feel confident about is emerald, due to it being extremely well known and the last precious gem we haven't seen. It'll be interesting to see what other gems ultimately get chosen as developed characters.
>>78350456
What birthstone haven't we seen yet?
>>78350456
I feel like Peedle will turn out to be Jade or something.
>>78350032
Actually, Sugar herself has directly stated that Steven is the only male gem.
>>78350456Bismuth
>>78350873
Anon, surely you meanRose's metal.
>>78344110
It's all just a misunderstanding, and everyone has sex because they're all futa.
>>78344948
>gets defused and alone with Steven
>talks down her rage
>something about the fight with Rose being the only one she lost, glory and battle and the traditions she affronted
>learning to accept what she can't change
>learning that Lapis was right and Steven is someone worth protecting
>coming back to Lapis as equals, after HER groove sorting arc
>Malachite is their fusion form but not as monstrous this time
>>78350700
They have feet anon
>>78351223
>Peridot is either going to get ded, or go home and then get ded
>Jasper will more than likely get to live
God damn you, sucrose.
>>78350873Amber
They already used pearl. Why not another organically formed gemstone?
>>78351396
>forgot pic
>>78344948
>Sugar going deep in Jasper
wew tango
>>78351416
>>78351396
Why amber? There are tons of better organic gemstones.
Various petrified woods, coral, jet, fossilized bone, ivory, ammolite, ammonite, crinoidal limestone, turritella agate, mary ellen jaspers, nacre... lots of them.
Amber is just so boring.
God damn ANOTHER thread up?
You want us to get banned before we even move back here?
>>78351587
Ivory and jet would be pretty cool.
Fossil would be like a joke character they use in those Classroom Gem videos.
>>78351587
Don't forget coprolite.
>>78346768
Your MOM is rebecca sugar!
>>78344110
Last second redeem.FUCK, I REGRET TYPING THIS BECUASE I KNOW IT'S HAPPENING. FUCK THE S2 WRITING.
>>78350032
What sense would it make for a sexless species to have multiple genders?
>>78346988
>>78346988
how would gems even commit suicide? i mean, it seems a bit impossible unless you have the right weapon or your gem in the right place
>>78351801
Amethyst almost killed herself by falling off a cliff onto a rock. Can't be that hard.
>>78351801
By crushing their own gem.
By retreating and never coming out.
>>78351587
Meh it was just the first one that came to mind. And I figured that since it formed from a liquid that could lead to some cool powers/backstory.
>>78351801
I'm trying to think of a quick and painless way but I keep coming up with autobody tools.
>>78351801
Directing the destabilizer on the gem
>>78351881
Oh boy, more Eva references!
>>78345510
Shut down
>>78347608
>an episode dedicated to this
>asking this question
>>78345437
Matt Burnett is a shitty writer, stop confirming his MTG fake character analysis bullshit.
>>78347608
Hahaha
>>78352050
Matt is a filthy liar, but I wouldn't say his writing is shitty. Also MtG is pretty okay.
>>78352104
Matt also said WW2 never happened.
Why the fuck does everyone have a smartphone?
The Crewniverse say they're making althistory without understanding the ramifications of thinking EVERYTHING out.
>>78352205
Matt says a bunch of things just to shit with people. He's said this. I answered the only real writer you can trust
Quick guys please I need that faceless Greg template from House Guest
Anybody?
>>78347979
Silly anon, everyone knows Lapis is the rapist.
lapis rescued? y/n?
Jasperredeemed?
>>78352462
n
yes
>>78352439
are you implying she'sRapis Lazuli
>>78352462
Nay and yay, respectively.
That is if YD doesn't throw the dynamic of the show for too much of a loop.
>>78352515
>>78352549
how can one happen without the other?
>>78348042
solid color Jasper looks like something I shouldn't be aloud to see
>>78352570
Lapis is the bad one.
>>78352583
Christ, I forgot how ugly Amethyst's/Jasper's lips look.
What the fuck is wrong with the art team lmao
>>78344110
>>78345510
Last time someone brought up that villain shit, some kind faggot finally gave me the likely source of it.
http://io9.gizmodo.com/steven-universe-is-a-show-about-fantasys-love-affair-1458060916
>But we won't necessarily see that many iconic villains on Steven Universe, says Sugar — the Gems aren't dealing with a particular person, but something "bigger than that." There's not "really a singular enemy." Instead, the conflict will be within the group, and it'll be about Steven figuring out what's right.
It's bullshit. She didn't say there'd be no villains, just that the main antagonists of the show were going to be whole forces, not a single iconic being.
They aren't facing Yellow Diamond, they're facing gem-kind.
>>78352612
>>78352583
This isn't right. It's-it's unholy.
>>78352636
>art team
*Sugar
>>78345363
>gay rock men
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUhVCoTsBaM
>>78352650
>that condescending bitch face in the 2nd to last panel
Gets me every time.
>>78352669
Fucking hell I love Jojo and SU
I'd love a crossover animation some day.
>>78352583
It looks basically normal
you're used to seeing jasper with the stripe, so naturally jasper without it looks off
the design is less cool, but it looks like just about any other gem
>aloud
>>78352732
You better be a prog rock fan as well.
>>78352583
Left side may work, but it isn't the same now with the tiger pattern
>>78352669
I wonder if the opposing race to the Gems is either that, orthe Sneple
>>78352669
Pretty sure the gems would be fucked if they had to go up against the Piller Men
>>78352732
>Steven's Stand is Lion
>Garnet is a joint Stand between Ruby and Sapphire
What about everyone else's?
>>78352732
>I love Jojo and SU
got just the thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=s5gejJXypSM#t=54
Full villains just want to trash everything to show off all the power the can use.
Real people make choices and can emotionally grow
>>78352812
kill me
end my life
this man(?) is a weapon of mass destruction via world-wide suicide
>>78352828
The key to writing a good villain is remembering that nobody sees themselves as the bad guy.
>>78352812
What kind of cancer is this.
I was expecting flamboyent gay rock men.
>>78352646
So... whether Homeworld society can be redeemed or just let it all burn?
>>78345363
Nah, they'll be space dragons with access toportaltechnology.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gem_dragon
>Almost every type eats gems.
>>78352914
isn't that the little guy from the colored pones show?
>>78352904
Sounds familiar.
>>78350873
I don't get why everyone thinks this is a gem. They can bubble other stuff, Steven bubbled a bag of chips for centipeedle. Maybe it's a part to a weapon, or a key to some hidden part of the temple, or an art project of Gregs. My vote is red herring by the creators.
>>78352965
All would have gone well if the Big E just told his sons what he was planning. Instead he had to be all secretive and it fucked everything up.
>>78352944
>He's never played a PS1-era platformer.
Jesus Christ...
He's another familar face from the same series that'a obsessed with gems.
>>78351840
>will it blend gem edition hosted by jasper.
>>78352914
Nah, here's your dragon. It got ate.
>>78353036
>PS1-era platformer.
does Pandemonium count?
>>78353036
Fucking Moneybags.
>>78352205
Human culture is also completely unaffected by a massive alien invasion in our ancient history.
I don't think the writers think too hard about this shit. Because the CG should be worshipped as immortal god queens if human behavior was the least bit consistent between our worlds. They aren't even famous, people are actually wierded out by gem 'magic' even though it would be the crux of many fields of scientific, cultural, and historical inquiry.
It's a fun show, but I'm not going to pretend the world is well built, or be disappointed when it doesn't suddenly do a better job after not caring for so long.
>>78352650
Lapis if she was played by Cheryl/Carol from Archer.
>>78353075
If that's a dragon, then it's definitely a hatchling.
>>78353131
Not really, that one's multiplatform.
>>78353134
He'll reactivtate the Warp Pad for the Crystal Gems.If they pay him a small fee, of course...
>>78353411
well I also played gekko, monsters inc, 101 dalmatians, asterix & obelix
do they count?
>>78353140
What if the fighting took place in remote locations, like the Kindergarten? I mean, 3000 bc (5000 years ago) is around when North Africa had early agriculture, so it wouldn't be that hard for a lot of humans to miss a massive alien attack, and it would explain why some people don't even know about the CGs. Not to mention, there's always the possibility that there were some gems with psychic/mind wiping abilities that could help with hiding gem presence from people in urban areas.
>>78347979
>if you rape someone you're evil
Well shit
>>78353583
With shit like "eye-rape" and that post-sexual withdrawal of consent shit they have going on in Canada, that's pretty much bullshit anymore.
Yellow Diamond is hot.
>>78353678
But we literally only have a side shot of her. A really dark side shot.
People are clinging to her without her even having shown up in the show at all.
I'm hoping it'll be an even bigger letdown than all the faggots that came up with ideas for Peridot only for her to be completely different.
>>78353678
See >>78353729
>inb4 YD is yd
get it
yd
wide
Your power-top waifu is gonna be fat in the name of progressiveness
>>78344110
I doubt they'll go to lengths to make yellow diamond/Jasper into good people, but rather make homeworld gems in general feel sympathetic, maybe there'll be some important reason or ingrained mindset that they have which is why they turn planets into kindergardens/gem worlds, something that the protags may be able to fix.
>>78347979
Jasper is less of a dick than Peridot, and has done less wrong than Peri has at this point. She acted based on what she thought was right, rather than selfishness, and she had a sense of honor rather than playing dirty.
Why are people so quick to call her more irredeemable?It is because she looks like a man?
>>78347636
It's because Jasper is a streaked mineral IRL you retard. Opal doesn't have streaks or multi-colors because it's a design choice.
Learn to occam's razor
>>78354793
Because she's violent and stuff and its more fun to see her as a bad guy
>>78344110
what´s bad for earth doesnt mean it´s bad for the HW
>>78346445
a man can only dream
>>78347742
LET'S TAKE THIS TO THE TREADMILL
>>78348845
Kate Mulgrew.
>>78353729
They'd still embrace it anyway
Peridot turned out to be a loser nerd and it only led to more fans
Just hoping that YD's character turns out interesting, and not something like 80's Skeletor or Cobra Commander
>>78350873
if it's a gem, she would be edgy
>>78345303
Yes
>>78350873
>>78355571
>That MMX4 description
>>78350873
I'll post my shit tier crack pot theory too, because all the cool kids are doing it.
That bismuth is somehow kinda Lion's gem in a way. Lion is some type of weird gem creature that was created as a byproduct when Rose made Steven. He's an amalgamation of all the leftover things that she didn't put into Steven, like her motherly instincts, and fierce warrior nature,her vast interiorand shit like that. That's why none of the gems saw Lion before Steven was born, and why Lion is so protective of him.
>>78356627
>somehow kinda Lion's gem in a way
that's not how poofed, bubbled gems work
>>78352914
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gem_dragon
Would be neat. Any new species being introduced, really.
I'd like to see a hint at a society orders of magnitudes above the Gems, just for Pearl to realize she's essentially to someone else what humans are to her. Of course, considering her caste, she's essentially like that within her own society.
>>78348076
Morality is not negated just because people choose to perform immoral acts.
>>78344110
Everything the CGs seem to stand for can be turned on it's head when you have to apply it to a group larger than 3-6 people.
Fusion alone is a mess. Just look at Sug ... I mean, I'm pretty damn sure none of the gems who made up sug WANTS to kill Steven and Pearl but Sug (a temporary HUGE FUCKING "War Machine") was ready and willing to crush em all. What if 2 gems pulled a Jasper/ Lapis on a 3rd gem so that they could use the fusion for their own means? How can you prove the 3rd gem was tricked into partaking in the fusion that may have caused so much damage and loss of life? Fusions can't be "punished", they're experiences that end when they decide to or can't stay that way any longer.
How do you stop that? Shun fusion. Turn it into a thing you only do to fight for the cause. Have gems fuse with others of their type so that they don't become something new, they just become bigger and likely better at their task. Make this a cultural norm and teach it to all new gems like Pdot.
>>78356659
and Steven is not how fusions work. Rose did some weird ass science/magic to make him. is it really so hard to imagine she did some weird shenanigans to make Lion too?
>>78356747
Makes sense, really.
Garnet and Amethyst aren't even particularly powerful gems, but they're too stable to fuse despite their chaotic nature.
Can you imagine if Malachite composed of fractured Lapus and Jasper? The show would have been over.
>>78344110
>they call herA DIAMOND DOG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36lWAcY9IXE&ab_channel=Alexm799
I want DY's appearance start out with a song
>>78356787
>Steven is not how fusions work
because he isn't
>>78347945
>Homeworld need not care for the lives of some massively under-evolved apes when the survival of Gemkind is at stake.
>when the survival of Gemkind is at stake.
why do immortal holograms need to reproduce?
especially at the cost of all other life on a kindergarden planet?
And even if they die, their lives are far FAR greater than 6000 years, and they don't have/have looked for other methods during that time?
For their species to be at equilibrium Their massive reproduction pipeline that the kindergarten showed implied they die at a huge rate, but from what besides their own infighting?
If not at equilibrium, then their excessive reproduction IS a horrendous thing
the entire need for gems to reproduce AT ALL is underdeveloped to the point of being a plothole
>>78345185
>-rigid caste system
Cultural differences aren't inherently evil, it's just hard to change things from the way they've always done them, especially when you're talking about plenty of those lives having potentially been there since the very beginning.
>-destroys planets to produce gems regardless of its inhabitants
Taking life in order to grow, survive and flourish is no different from human beings. They didn't recognizes us as being equals so didn't afford us any rights, it's understandable.
>-"harvests" gems as punishment, whatever that is
Punishment for those that break the law is understandable.
You're dealing with an alien culture, you can't label everything they do as evil just because it isn't what you would do, otherwise they are justified in killing us solely because we are "evil" as well.
>>78356882
Hard to say as gems are immortal, but CAN be killed
So why increase their numbers 6000 years ago?
>>78356882
It's not so much a lifespan thing as much as an outnumbering the opposition thing.
They're creating more soldiers, not creating heirs.
Those soldiers then defeat another planet, and use it to create more soldiers.
Obviously they have to leave some planets alive because if you don't what was the fucking point of taking it over?
Then again, nothing I say matters because we just don't fucking know, man.
>>78345510
>No, she never said this. Why do you think there's no quote of her saying this.
100% wrong
I read the post she made, I don't remember it word for word but it was this more or less
>There are no villains in Steven Universe, only misunderstandings.
She specifically said misunderstandings.
>Gems are a virus
>Steven is the vaccine
>>78356938
>Misunderstandings
Man, I sure can't wait for Talk no Jutsu for season 5 in 2019
>>78356924
>So why increase their numbers 6000 years ago?
To expand the empire. A larger workforce allows you to do more. This also applies to culture in a very basic way.
1 painter vs 1000
Which group is more likely to produce greater works? It's pretty obvious, there's simply more potential with more people, period.
>>78345114
Fuck you. Jasper has literally done nothing wrong.
>>78356960
I don't remember any talk no jutsu when Jasper and co came, at least nothing that went anywhere peacefully. Misunderstandings lead to fights which is pretty common.
>>78356924
Technical Immortality, reduces the need to reproduce, not imcrease it
I assumed they have more than one kindergarten, and plant them reguglarly, so what is the question about 6000 years specifically?
6000 years is nothing to an immortal
>>78356930
What opposition?
have you seen any gem without a function? The soldiers are the heirs
>Obviously they have to leave some planets alive because if you don't what was the fucking point of taking it over?
Nothing about gems implies they need live planets
>>78356961
Immortals don't necessarily imply the need to grow an empire
And the destructive method they use only increases all other animosity toward them
for example: Transformers are explicitly hated in thier universe for thier destructive influence on the entire universe, and they don't even need to kill planets
>>78347636
The theory worked until the guidebook, it seems to shit on it completely and refute it.
>>78356987
>Immortals don't necessarily imply the need to grow an empire
Not sure what you mean here, if they have ambitions they need ways to fulfill those and a workforce makes sense.
>And the destructive method they use only increases all other animosity toward them
There probably wasn't any other way known to them. Technically there still isn't, Steven just replaced a Gem essentially, they didn't increase their number. Though they told us we would see whether or not there was a way to make new gems outside of the injectors.
>Transformers are explicitly hated in thier universe for thier destructive influence on the entire universe
We don't even know if there are any other sapients in the show, and those people that hate the warring of the transformers would have hated the Decepticons winning far more and coming to rape their planet simply because they don't give a damn.
>>78356987
First of all, shit happens. Gems are ageless beings but they still can be destroyed. Accidents can happen to them, and they would need to be replaced. That's why gems need to make more of themselves.
About kindergardens, we don't know if there are any other means of making new gems, so as far as we know it's the only viable way of making new gems.
I love you guys
Wait, you people do know that the whole "injecting gems into planets" thing is relatively new to gem kind ... right?
Pdot called the kindergarten injectors "first era" ... they only came up with this tech around the time of the war which is with in the life time of most of the team.
>>78357014
>First of all, shit happens. Gems are ageless beings but they still can be destroyed
I'm not saying it can't. I'm saying that killing off a life planet Is not worth more gems even TO GEMS in the long run, which is the normal run to an immortal
And you would still look for other methods, even if you only knew of one
>>78357009
Ambition does not validate atrocities, which was the issue I was arguing
>We don't even know if there are any other sapients in the show,
In transformers, we do
In SU we don't, but what other reason would they need a fucking planet killing weapon? More Infighting? Again another reason that their atrocities are unjustified either way
And if sugar says there are no villains then the other spaients wouldn't be villains either
>>78357044
The injectors may be new
the methodology of gem birth may not
however it is likely considering Gems before they started space travel makes the birth methodology unsustainable on a single planet
>>78352804
Amethyst's Stand is Purple Puma
Pearl's Stand isHolo Pearl
>>78357044
We don't know what is considered an "era" to gems.
>>78357085
the amount of time they mean by era is not his point
his point was there was "a before the first era" time period
>>78357087
Are you even reading what you're saying?
>>78357059
My guess is that though HW makes gems naturally it doesn't make enough for them to replenish their population after all their warring with each other.
So they decided to research ways to make more gems and even create NEW gems.
So they gravitate to the caste/ class system and make gems for certain jobs that will help them advance.
Then they find out that they can make gems on other planets and happened upon earth.