Will the DCEU ever introduce Poison Ivy?
And if so, will they dare to have her be in lesbians with Harley?
Who should play her, anyhow?
>>78287637
Every morning I wake up and think "if that piece of shit hack of an artist and joke of a writer seijic can do it, so can I"
Seijic sets the bar so low he inspires others
>>78287715
writing? nothing amazing. occasionally good for a laugh, but far from award winning.
art? sorry, i don't know what you're looking at, but from the fact that you recognize the characters, size and proportions stay consistent, and realistic (as as realistic as intended), and faces are generally expressive. what the fuck do you want, if you think his art sets a low bar?
>>78287715
Just like that Meyer girl.
>>78287715
What are you doing waking up thinking about people?
I'm more of a "uhrrr., coffee...." type of person.
>>78287715
He's nit really a writer, he's an artists and his art is fine although his writimg is really inoffensive so who cares.
Now Adam Hughes, I can fap to his drawings but fuck he has some of the most cringey humor.
No across the board.
>>78288039
Most cheesecake artists have shit tier sense of humor. Not just the jokes, they suck at timing, they never know when to stop and drag a little gag for fucking ages. Where did the "more words means more REAL writing" mindset come from?
Source: Cho, Hughes, Root
To be fair, wouldn't this kind of terrible pun would be exactly the kind of thing Harley would make?
Points 4 OP because Harley would totally do something like that and piss Poison Ivy off. She'd forgive her because it's just a joke, but you know Harley does stuff like that.
>>78287637
Harley is my spirit animal.
In that I also tend to make horrible puns and get overly attached to the person I have a crush on, even when it's abundantly clear they want nothing to do with me.
But mostly the puns.
>>78287715
I guarantee you that you can spend the next 10 years seriously studying art for at least 8 hours every day and you will be nowhere near his level. Comic book art and sequential art in general is so much more difficult than some amateurs think it is by looking at the sketchy stuff that was drawn either for fun or under very tight deadlines.
>>78287715
>hack artist
What's wrong with the art exactly? He clearly has the fundamentals down, faces are expressive without looking ugly, hardly any sameface, solid linework and vibrant colors.
So what gives? Or is this a meme hate just like we 'hate' Shadbro.
>>78287715
Image is putting him on the same path Brandon Graham is currently going on: They're planning to make him a partner.
You can start hurting things now, anon.
>>78287715
Seriously? The bar is practically resting on the ground now and he's not the reason why.
>>78287747
>from the fact that you recognize the characters
Being able to recognize the characters despite the art is the lowest bar I can think of.
>>78291178
Shadbro does have lots of problems, he hasn't improved a lot since 2010 and isn't that great when it comes to actual line work often using one really thin width to do all of it. Seijic or whatever also doesn't have solid linework, in fact it's worse than shad in that they just rush a quick sketch to build a vaugue form and then barely clean things up. They get away with it because they're a competent painter and they don't really need the lines to make the form tighter anyways.
>>78287637
lesbians sell BIG
>>78287715
>shit hack of an artist
You've obviously only seen his quick sketching stuff, when he takes his time the guy is one of the best
>>78287637
>Will the DCEU ever introduce Poison Ivy?
I hope they do, I am waiting for that sweet Gotham City Sirens movie
>And if so, will they dare to have her be in lesbians with Harley?
Is the logical option the could go with it
>>78292360
>that sweet Gotham City Sirens movie
Shit, that movie will make all the shite that is Man of Steel and BvS worthwhile.
>>78287715
>all these flavors
>>78292965
Only flavor I'm getting is salt.
>>78287637
Ah, what is 4chan without some saltiness.
Not you OP. The other ones.
>>78294819
even in his sketch art he makes very expressive women. I would love him to do his old, really polished work with A-force. Could you imagine how beautiful it would be?
>>78287637
Aren't all the 'fantastic' rogues already dead? I'm pretty sure the only ones left are those that are conveniently easy to do in live action film.
>>78291244
God, that fucking face. She looks like pic related.
>>78287637
ok, I'm fed up with people shitting on this awesome artist, fuck ya'll this is better than almost anything in comics
>>78295282
Death Vigil was too good for us.
>>78295615
Next time, include a magnifying glass with your post, will you?
Have you guys read Switch? His art is even more half assed than usual on that
>>78287637
Is that all Ivy is these days? Harley's lesbian straight man?
>>78295615
apologies for ant-art
>>78295660
I can live with that.
>>78287715
post your art
>>78295615
He has the same problem as Alex Ross where everything he draws looks frozen in time, rather than a still image of real life.
>>78295660
Usually. That's what happens when one character is more popular than the other.
Ivy is getting a mini so she might be more there.
>>78295707
seconding
>>78295729
She's not interesting or likeable enough to be anything else.
>>78295721
Not really, cause while there is a definite 'frame capture' image, it has dynamic that has the feeling of action.
You may disagree, but I love this style of art
>>78295750
That is untrue. I can't think of any character that's unsalvageable given the right writer.
>>78295798
>>78295721
I find that comes off a lot more if the comic is more painterly or just more realistically rendered in general.
>>78295798
even his Joker has more style than any artist. This was a clear homage to Ledger's joker, but it does it with it's own style
>>78295844
Please explain cause I have no clue what you are meaning.
...OK, be as cynical as you want to be, but clearly this works, 'cause I'm off to get tthis book.
will continue to post one of the most amazing artist /co/ should love more than they do.
How the fuck can anyone hate this artist? This is some of the beautiful art I have seen
>>78295889
well then you would love their threesome they have with Catwoman
>>78291764
No I can clearly see the time taken. But I don't see what's best about those techniques I'm seeing used.
Again, I can see the time taken.
>>78295969
>I'm seeing used.
I don't understand what you mean there. Please explain
If I may make a proposition before you respond, is it cause you don't want realistic are and want 'movement' art?
I just don't understand why anyone could dislike his art
>>78295878
It could just be my personal preference, but when a comic gets more painterly and realistically rendered like >>78295664, the art looks a bit more static. It tends to adhere to realistic physics and motion. It's not as lenient as other styles of cartooning, there's less dynamism. It comes off looking like a paused movie. I'm not saying that the art is bad because it's obviously phenomenal, but it can be more rigid than I like interiors to look.
>>78296040
Appreciation of technique =/= appreciation of the work.
You can appreciate the work, effort, and technical skill it takes to make a certain thing, and still think it's the most hideous thing in the world.
>>78287637
> will they dare to have her be in lesbians with Harley?
It's like daring to include a mostly naked attractive woman on the cover, or daring to pair said woman with an unattractive man (late teens to mid-twenties, either skinny or fat, shy and lacking in sexual experience, loves comic books), or daring to kill an unpopular character off. Truly, the writers would have to have balls of steel to attempt that.
>>78296043
>>78296112
Ok you two are definitely not agreeing with my taste. I do agree that movement in a panel isn't his strong point, but detail is. I fucking love the detail, where the colour is so expressed and dynamic; each and every one of his Ravine/Witchblade pages I would print and put up on my wall as huge posters, They are detailed enough to DO THAT. That makes them much better than most of the /co/ material. There are few comic artists that I would put up on my wall
>>78296295
No, I definitely agree that the art is fantastic. The detail and lighting are gorgeous.
>>78296295
forgot pic
>>78296354
so, what, specifically, is your dislike of it?
>>78287715
What's wrong with his art?
>>78296393
Yeah, I don't think you're gonna get an answer that's gonna satisfy you, so let's just drop it.
>>78295721
>He has the same problem as Alex Ross where everything he draws looks frozen in time,
How the fuck do you even get that from Seijic's art? I'm starting to think you're too unqualified for art analysis.
>>78296393
What I just said in >>78296043
>>78296295
>each and every one of his Ravine/Witchblade pages I would print and put up on my wall as huge posters
I think that's the very issue some have with him, that art you'd like on posters doesn't translate to good storytelling.
>>78296503
but they DO, they tell dramatic endevores, one at a time. it may not be as manga with lines as you like, but the realistic picture is what I seek in comics.
That is a personal preferance though, I get that
>>78287637
Well since Harley will likely be very popular in Suicide Squad, I imagine they'll introduce her somehow.
another example of his great art, if you say otherwise you just don't like super-realistm. Which is as stupid opinion in my opinion
>>78287747
His art looks like rough sketches that he never finished that someone else just filled in with flat colors in Photoshop. I don't know why /co/ loves him so much, his work isn't very good.
Since Mera is going to black, Emilia should play poison ivy
>>78296986
Yeah I wouldn't go as far as other and saying it's shit, but it's not exactly to my tastes either.
>>78296503
It's the same issue Alex Ross has, everything feels static
Wait, wait. Why isn't Harley blond anymore?
>>78297118
God I want OG Lara back so much. Back when she used to have fun.
>>78297118
What exactly is super realistic about that image? It looks like he stopped halfway through and never finished.
What if Jena Malone is poison ivy?
If she were batgirl, we would have known by now, maybe she's one of the rogues batman fights earlier on in the movie, like scarecrow in the dark knight
>>78297191
Same reason Joker's hair is green. He pushed her into the same vat.
>>78297228
I could live with that.
>>78297209
uh...it's a drawing. Realistic to a point, right?
Will they lez out?
>>78297523
It's not super realistic at all though.
>>78297578
but it IS super realistic, just idealistic
>>78296374
you know he does a porn comic about halflings right?
>>78297657
That's Incase, a different artist.
>>78297657
and how does that impact the art? I dont fucking care
>>78297807
i've thought they were the same for a long time my mistake.
>>78297819
>he doesn't want to see halfling porn
what are you? gay??because he's got shit for you too /co/mrade
How can you hate this art? Reallly, how can you not like it? It is the best
>>78298059
Uncanny valley.
>>78298165
AH, THAT makes sense. Some of of it is almost too much,but I but it cause that is some of the most amazing art I have ever scene
>>78298059
>black cat rapes him
>>78298059
the perspective in this one is off, it just looks like he's drawn smaller rather than behind her
>>78298665
But if he is behind her then he will appear smaller.
>>78298715
I get that but it doesn't look right. I don't know if it's an angling thing, light source, or something else but literally the only thing in the art that suggests that she's in front of him is the white bar at the bottom. Maybe it would be less weird if it was an actual scene and not a random blur and a gray box in the background.
>>78295660
Isn't that what she's have been since the BTAS "Harley & Ivy" episode?
>>78297150
Wow, That's a nice pussy
>>78298775
so you are complaining that it is not blurry? As an eye would look at it. OK I can understand that. But also, fuck you this is better art than 99%of comic artists
>>78299157
Not that he's not blurry, just something about it is poorly executed. Maybe the proportion of his body that's visible is wrong?
There are better examples of his work in this thread at least.
>>78297118
off coloring/shading and no movement. everything looks like it's cemented in glossy plastic.
>>78299255
well if we are comparing his work to others of his caliber then I'm all for that discussion, but the reccent conversation has been nothing like that.
how is he poorly executed?
>>78299329
fair enough, but this is a style of hyper realism where the art is more real than the person. And that is a great part in art. Anyone who cant tell the difference between these art forms on /co/ is terrible...
love your art forms, but acknowledge the others
>>78299541
I'm saying it's poorly executed because the distance is not expressed in a manner that shows the actual perspective that he was trying to draw. Without the dialogue it mostly just looks like they're standing the same distance from the viewer.
I'm just unsure how to fix it.
>>78288592
I wish I could hate you to death
>>78299667
ah, ok I get that. But I take it instead as a more metaphorical prespective. Thats how I read it anyway
>>78299761
fair enough
>>78298059
Looks like he skipped fundamentals and just went into realistic rendering, which he doesn't even do that well.
>>78287715
the art is fine. sloppy, but the expressions and poses are done really well.
>>78287637
>Who should play her, anyhow?
Does it really matter? You can pretty well slap body paint on any woman in Hollywood and there you go, she's not a physically complicated character.
>>78295889
>>78295965
don't forget all the lesbian subtext when Harley was hanging around Power Girl playing hero. There's some genuinely funny moments.....like when Harley gets a new costume with a boob window like PG. She meets a random bad guy, who sats her tits are lame. So Harley turns around.......and she has an ass window too.
>>78296043
so, just a bunch of bullshit then? gotcha.
>>78300934
How did you get to this website if you don't know how to read? Just curious.
ITT: art maesters who have nothing to show for themselves but their hot opinions.
>>78301309
>implying any thread on here is any different
>>78291244
Jesus, spoiler that shit, I was not prepared.
>>78287715
where do these random seijic haters come from? i don't get it. it's like there's some weird remnant of /co/ that thinks he's the worst artist ever for some reason.
>>78301309
>implying you have to be an artist to judge art
>implying you have to be a director to judge film
>implying you have to be a chef to judge food
>implying you have to be a musician to judge music
>implying you have to be a mechanic to judge a car
>implying you have to be a veterinarian to judge a pet
>implying you have to be a model to judge clothing
>>78295889
>are you gonna get off?
>are you?
Ivy missing the joke so hard. You'd think she'd be dialed in that lesbo wave.
Wait, wait, wait. Hold the phone.
Someone is saying Nebezial is a bad artist?
LOL WTF U FKIN FGT
Get your shit together.
>>78297185
Except no? It never feels as static as Ross' can be.
>>78291244
honestly the rest of the pic is fine but the face. dear god why.
>>78305193
If only anon. But Palmiotti & Conner like to play the "do they?" schtick
>>78305241
>The rest of the pic is fine
>Forgetting about those awful hands
It's like the artist completely forgot that she/he was drawing hands
>>78291244
I try my best with ms paint.
>>78305408
Anon , there's now way to save that monstrosity. Its better to keep it as it is and keep praying so that God doesn't keep sending us more monsters
>This thread
I like the man's art, but I don't think it warrants this much investment either way. It's not bad, but it's not Michaelangelo's second coming either,as some people act it is.
Also, Ivy better be in one of these movies, and if she is, she better lez it up with Harley, too, is all I'm saying.
>>78305215
>LOL WTF U FKIN FGT
>>>/reddit/
>>78307445
It'd be perfect if Ivy and Selina had their DCCU/DCEU debut in a Gotham City Sirens movie
>>78305408
You can't shine a turd, son.
>>78307445
Of course she'll lez is up with Harley.
Being Harley's girlfriend is like 75% of Ivy's character.
>>78304987
>implying you have to be Australian to judge shit posting
>>78309154
More like 69.
>>78309080
There HAS to be a white edit of that one.
>>78287715
>>78287637
>>78287637
i liked when they were sistas, this lesbian thing is just /co/ pandering at its worst
>>78312782
Hey, buddy. Pal. Hate to burst your hetero-normative bubble here, but Ivy was in lesbians with Harley from pretty much their first appearance together.
>>78313022
Harley seems like such a reluctant lesbian
Like
>Oh wow Ivy you treat me so well
>But... the penis............ I crave it
>>78314147
Well, you know bisexuals...
>>78314164
I think it's just simply that the Harley/Ivy thing can never have any real traction because at the end of the day Harley's core characterization is that she loves the Joker above everyone else, even herself.
Harley loves the Joker and she loves the cock, she's just an incredibly easily manipulated and childish person when it comes to expressing her needs, which Ivy readily takes advantage of. They are an incredibly bad mix, a woman who will do and say anything to further her own agenda and a woman who will go along with anything for the sake of attention. There's nothing real between them, but I suppose in that regard it DOES mirror most real-world lesbian relationships.
It's sad that she's just being used as a LGBT propaganda mouthpiece now, by people who completely ignore these facts. It makes them look like stupid tools.
>>78314239
In literally none of the stories does Ivy ever manipulate Harley. It's more like the other way around: Harley does whatever the fuck she wants, and uses whatever attributes she has to get Ivy to either do what she wants, or forgive her for what she did. She did that growing up, she did that in college, and in her career as a psychologist, and she's still doing that with Ivy, Batman, and everybody else. She even does it with the Joker, it's just that he is the only one who can do the same back to her.
>>78314225
>Harley's core characterization is that she loves the Joker above everyone else, even herself.
Not according to Dini. To him Harley & Ivy is endgame
>>78295950
>>78297118
>>78299157
You must have not seen very many artists then.
>>78291244
she looks like shes doing meth
>>78291210
didnt all of his works flooped really bad?
>>78319442
No, but I'd love to see that, though. Flooping, that is.
>>78295664
>dat second frame booty pop
damn it, I exploded gallons just now
>>78319511
Might wanna look at that face first, tho
>>78313022
What does Ivy answers?
>>78319957
That there are enough men in the prison to satisfy her biological needs.
>>78319442
>>78319509
ravine sales were terrible
death vigil just get cancelled
twitch look pretty bad already with really low numbers
esunstone is the only work that sells, in his twitter he was thinking about retiring and doing designs for videogames
>>78287747
well, i don't know him but this image doesn't look complete.
Reminds me of that cringe worthy Iron Man/Strange mustache page.
Who actually looks at this crap and honestly thinks this is funny?
>>78319957
Ivy challenge Harley into a "Who could kiss more men" inside of Arkham just for a dollarHarley wins
