Is there a Marvel based team that could beat SuperMan?
>F4 with prep time?
>Avengers with world breaker hulk and odinson Thor?
>Xmex with Phoenix?
Or, ya know, any one of these guys.
>>78243860
Is Magneto able to take on Superman?
>>78243892
Why would he?
>>78243860
>>78243888
All of them combined couldn't beat him! Cause hurble burble autism muh Superman.
>>78243860
Speaking of Thor vs Superman. How come Thor never uses magic? We know he knows it. What gives?
>>78243860
>Xmex with Phoenix?
Remember anon once saying to me that O5 were based on Superman's powers, Cyclops getting optic blasts, Iceman freeze breath and so on. Only part I didn't get was telekinesis and such.
Unless Superman had that power fifty years ago?
>>78243888
Silver Surfer has problems with Black Panther, he couldn't hold a candle to Supes.
>>78243860
Squirrel Girl
Warlock obviously beat superman.
>>78243910
What the fuck is this? The Social Justice League?
>>78243988
BP can beat Supes too. No one can escape his chokeholds.
Friendly reminder that Dr.Strange can solo the justice league
>>78244011
Space Ghetto Avengers.
>>78244071
Friendly reminder that probably not, since at least the hawks are immune to magic.
AIMvengers. Actually Pod alone can since she defeated Hyperion and Thor at the same time.
>>78243860
Hulk could literally beat the fuck out of him
>>78243860
Classic Defenders. Namor and Hulk just watch while Strange conjures up some popcorn and they enjoy the spectacle of Silver Surfer defeating the entire JLA simultaneously.
>>78243892
Superman is the Man of Steel. Magneto would destroy him.
>>78244276
>>78244247
>shit casuals say
>>78244110
>Friendly reminder that probably not, since at least the hawks are immune to magic.
they can be immune to magic all they want, they are not immune to the tentacle monsters he can summon
>>78244011
If someone dislikes the idea of social justice, I guess that means they prefer social injustice.
So... you think institutionalized racism, sexism and homophobia are just peachy?
>>78244247
Oh, sweetie...
Never mind the fact that 'literally beating the fuck out of' is an oxymoron.
>>78244386
Yes.
>>78244407
Then why do you even bother with superhero comics?
>>78244334
Surfer is literally the Flash combined with Captain Atom. He's beaten down Hulk-level villains with his bare hands in one page, can time travel with pinpoint accuracy and change history, and oh yeah, can generate red solar and kryptonite radiation at the same time. He's resisted mental attacks from Mephisto, has no special weaknesses, and can basically "lol no" anything the JLA throws at him. They stand no chance.
>>78244411
I don't read that horse shit they make nowadays. The New 52 is shit. Wally West is white. Thor is a man. Captain America is Steve Rogers. The real Nick Fury is white. And you can suck a dick, faggot.
>>78244411
Stop talking to him you fucking idiot.
>>78243892
yes
>>78244431
You know, I am an autist, but even I don't fear change as much as you seem to. How far back does this go?
>>78244436
Don't let it bother you. Or do. I'm not the boss of you.
>>78244431
>New 52 is shit
Can we get over this already? Yes, they made some bad changes, but they were still putting out solid comics then, and they're putting out even better comics now.
>>78243910
Only Blue marvel there has any chance.
>>78244414
>Surfer is literally the Flash combined with Captain Atom.
No he is not. Captain Atom can Create whole universes and wipe all the life in the universe, and is as fast as superman. way below the flash. Don't be fucking retarded. He does win, he can depower superman cells, the kryptonite radiation he can create would had no effect on superman.
>>78244386
Someone dislike rainy days does this means that they want all the water from the planet gone?
>>78244446
Funny. Let's see how you feel when DC does yet another inevitable reboot and retcons their current shit away. Marvel will follow suit when the sales go into the shitter thanks to all this SJW bullshit. Your modern shit comics will never produce any classic stories and will be regulated to the dust bin of history.
>>78244071
Actually, I'm pretty sure alone Zatanna at her peak (i.e. pre-Identity Crisis/Seven Soldiers) would beat Doctor Strange.
>>78244457
>Only Blue marvel there has any chance.
Monica would win easy. Her entire power set is basically superman's biggest weaknesses.
>>78244468
Yeah, because it's not like there were any classic stories after CoIE, right?
>>78244492
>>78244468
Fuck off.
>>78244492
What classic stories have happened in the last 15 years? Hell, in the last 10? It's all just edgy shit made for shock value and to bump sales and gets retconned or ignored after the next "Earth shattering company wide event" comes along.
>>78244457
nice headcanon you got there bro
>>78244457
>Only Blue marvel there has any chance.
Or Mary Sue America
>>78243972
Wouldn't Phoenix alone be able to beat him?
>>78244547
Yeah, but writers are hacks when it comes to defining its powers. One time you can travel through time and in next issue you have glorified energy blasts.
>>78244559
>glorified energy blasts
That's always the go to shit. They go through all the trouble over years of defining unique and multifaceted powersets and then never use them. I'm not even a big power level wanker but just some god damned creativity would be nice.
>>78244459
Okay, but how do you apply this to superhero comics?
>>78244468
You sound about 78 years old. We don't need the same stories told. They were already told.
>>78244475
Two thirds of them, anyway...
>>78244414
And yet he can't beat a chokehold.
>>78244568
Yeah. What's even point of creating characters with diverse powers? Give them strength so they can throw cars around, various colored energy blasts so we can see who is who and call it a day.
Morons.
>>78244590
Are you seriously posting this again and again, after the writer himself clarified that it was mostly a misuderstanding by the artist and the scene meant to show SS letting BP grab him in order to get info from him?
>>78243860
Gor arrives in Metropolis and mistakes Superman for a god. How's he get out of this one?
>>78244606
Yes. Until it stops being funny. And Nigger King Batman choking the shit out of a "herald of Galactus" will never stop being funny.
>>78244386
It's the other way around. People who specifiy social justice are usually not friendly to the other forms of Justice. See also: Kamen Rider.
![ali2-supesali[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/fFQiqvP.jpg "ali2-supesali[1].jpg")
>>78244629
ok then, yes Silver Surfer can beat the shit out of the loser who got beat by Muhammad Ali
>>78244648
Lemme know when Superman can "generate whatever bullshit energy" he'd need to beat Silver Surfer then I'll actually have something to agree with you about it being funny. As it is, a big flying strongman losing to a boxer just doesn't have the same "lolwut" factor as an all powerful cosmic being that shits out laser rainbows getting choked like a bitch.
>>78244665
I'll let you know when you start making sense you dumb nigger
>>78244682
It's simple. You yourself pimped out silver surfer with all those feats listed as if he's some swiss army knife of superpowers, citing that he can just shit out whatever radiation or energy he needs to stomp Superman. That arguably and very easily puts him above Superman, who despite his powers, can't do anything other than use brute force and wits to beat Surfer. So like I said, that all powerful swiss army knife getting choked like a bitch is much more humorous than Superman getting shit on by Ali.
>>78244695
I didn't make the post about SS, I just explained to you that, you know, since the writer says so, the BP panel is clearly misenterpreted.
But, you conviniently ignore the truth here, which only goes to show that you have no real arguments here, only bullshit. You're here just to shitpost.
>>78244386
>institutionalized
>>>/out/
>>78244709
I'm not ignoring jack shit. I'm just saying that your poor little white kid got choked by a nigger. Saying that he let him do it only makes it worse.
>>78244724
ok ostrich, enough time i wasted on the usual dc idiot
>>78243860
Anyone from Doom and Strange to fucking Pixie and Layla Miller.
>>78244738
Seriously, it's terrible. With all his powers, Norrin had plenty of other options he could have used to extract information from T'Challa, and he chose the one that gets BBC rubbed up against his ass.
>>78244709
Dude, obviously it's misinterpreted, but the main interpretation is so much more entertaining.
>>78244754
Yeah man, you're totally right, go on.
I guess it's impossible to win an argument against an idiot
>>78244764
You should stop arguing with yourself then.
>>78244764
>>78244770
>arguing on the internet
You're both retards. I tend to do this sort of thing when I'm procrastinating. I'm sure you both have something more important you should be doing. Get back to work.
>>78244787
It's 4 am and I'm burning left over energy so I'm getting my jollies off the internet so I can get some sleep.
>>78243972
Fifty years ago Superman had basically any power the writer wanted him to have
>>78244011
Niggers in space
>>78244470
Not any classic nor Black Priests Strange I know of.
>>78244871
Don't be racist faggot, niggers reached space before white people
>>78244627
He can't, Gorr put down a Skyfather, there's no way Supes can beat him. You need some godly haxxx to take away the Blade.
>>78244883
>white people stole black space tech
>>78244386
cringe
>>78244889
That's not what I said
Niggers were in space before Gagarin. The Russians sent monkeys in space in the 50s
>>78244883
WE WUZ STARGATEZZ N SHIT
>>78244901
Now I feel silly, anon.
>>78244247
literally
>>78244957
don't waste your time with hulkfags
>>78243910
You wouldn't even need the team, just Monica.
>turns into red sun radiation
>enter Superman
>Supes gets depowered/weakened
>punch him in the face at lightspeed
>>78243860
The Hickvengers were so OP they could take Supes pretty easily.
>>78243860
>Is there a Marvel based team that could beat SuperMan?
Yeah, Doom.
>>78244457
>Only Blue marvel there has any chance.
Wakanda invented anti-kryptonian technology centuries ago.
And since Superman has a vaguely humanoid shape, he wouldn't be able to escape from Black Panthers headlock.
This one (it doesn't exist doe)
>>78245600
>Doom vs Deathstroke
>>78245619
"You can't break this headlock."
"Can you breathe in space? What about inside the corona of the sun?"
"Letting go now. Bye."
>>78243988
Dwayne McDuffie, who wrote that fucking scene, already explained this:
“Read the scene again and this time pay attention. The Surfer allowed the Panther to “restrain” him in the hope of finding out what the FF was up to. A panel later, the Surfer’s assistant blasts the Panther unconscious. The Surfer is irritated because he wanted the Panther to talk, which he thought he might do if the Panther believed he had the upper hand. Most of the people who bitch about this have only seen a scan of one page, or have poor reading comprehension skills.”
/co/ doesn't read comics
>>78243927
Silver Surfer should be able to. However Marvel has super inconsistent with how strong the Power Cosmic is so maybe not.
>>78246323
By using blasts? Nope. Superman survived the big bang, twice and fought inperiex and meggedon. SS can easily win if he uses energy manipulation and plays with red sun radiation, bust blasting like a retard as so many times he has done before he just can't. If surfet knows how superman s powers work he would win, I guess the moment superman uses the heatvision ss will figure out.
>>78243860
A teams unnecessary, Dr Strange could since superman's weak to magic after that depending on who's writing them
Thor
Hulk
The Surfer
Maybe Gladiator or the Sentry
Franklin Richards definitely could (he's broken as shit)
as for any of those guys soloing the league, fuck no, especially not when its the entire league with the likes of Dr Fate, Captain Atom, Captain Marvel/Shazam ect
>>78246427
By using transmutation or manipulating solar radiation
>>78243860
Dr Strange already beat Superman when he summoned a giant japanese tentacle monster to violate his boipussi
>>78243860
Hell couldn't Prof X just psychically shut him down
>>78244457
The guy who wrote the original blue marvel story said in his mind blue marvel was stronger than superman weaker than thor. Search for it using that phrase. Take that for what you will.
>>78243860
World breaker hulk would beat superman.
Odin Force Thor would beat superman. Heck, Thor would beat superman.
Phoenix would beat superman.
Arguably a psychic like emma or prof x or the cuckoos would beat superman given most all of them could just turn off his mind. However, I don't necessarily want to call that being "beaten" that's almost like battlefield removal really.
>>78245392
I don't remember that fight very well, I read the issue. Dr. Strange summons a monster and wrecks people. BP and Batman are roughly equal. But so what? Hulk got blown backwards. That stuff happens in a fight. Hulk could win, does he win easy? No. But he could win. It always comes down to the last punch.
>>78247320
Thor going (for real) all out, or Surfer going straight for the kills may be able to solo the League with people you mentioned.
Current Sentry fuck knows honestly, he's got his usual mojo plus Celestial powers up to the point of clowning Thor and stopping Mjollnir with a smile.
But the conclusion should be, that in terms of powerhouses both sides are quite equal with some incredibly heavy hitters that could take each out other teams in the matter of seconds.
>>78247320
>Gladiator
One of my favorite powers ever. You're guaranteed to never beat him if your dick's smaller than his.
>>78248629
It's a big may saying they could beat the league solo, but I do agree with everything else you said, some heavy hitters in both the league and Marvel are just plain broken, Flash, Firestorm, Spectre, Sentry, Franklin Richards ect, Superman is definitely not one of them, guys strong but not unbeatable.
>>78243860
Well this looks familiar
>>78246158
Dude, Sentry alone could ruin him.
Call him a rip-off all you want but he's OP as fuck.
>>78246312
People complained about the encounter when the book first came out, when people who bought the book posted the encounter in the first place. This is not a 'doesn't-read' issue.
McDuffie can try to retroactively explain what he intended but the comments do not jive with the artwork and dialogue.
Surfer came into the book with guns blazing, he uses his surfboard to assault johnny. This is not the action of someone who came to talk. Panther hops on the board and rides it to Surfer, getting him in the arm lock while explaining the lock should work since his "physique is humanoid". The surfer is visibly in pain, exclaims "ahhh!" and "un... hand me..." while grimacing as Panther delivers a soliloquy.
Was Surfer faking? Its possible, but it was a complete 180 to his behavior only moments before, and if he wanted to talk there was no need for pretense when Panther *also* was busily babbling away.
Stardust comes blasting in, knocks out Panther, sends Ben in a force bubble towards a star. At that point Surfer backs down, that he doesn't want Grimm killed being his old friend and all, and that *now* he'll listen to Panther.
Fantastic Four #545. Read it yourself. The scene simply does not play as McDuffie suggests. If he truly wanted Surfer to be bluffing then something got lost on the way to the artist and the letterer. Frankly, it looks like revisionism when he was called on the BS.
>>78245619
Try actually reading the comic.
>>78252479
'ro vs radd
>>78252603
i'm not sure about this needing to gather molecular hydrogen to summon lightning, but here you go
>>78252618
some pages between, of Eon and Gravity chatting. forget it happened, everyone else did.
>>78252640
i'm still trying to figure out exactly why Surfer would be acting here. this is just more Panther ego-stroking.
>>78251269
sentry is more suprboy prime than superman.
He's a guy with reality warping powers imagining himself as the epiome of a superhero
>>78252674
Surfer calms down before Ben is deep-fried, and now he wants to have a chat.
>>78252715
Every time someone posts that McDuffie explanation, someone else posts the relevant pages and the person who was originally defending McDuffie never says a word again.
"you people don't read",
"ok, here are the relevant pages"
<crickets>
Also, note that McDuffie's defenders never post the pages themselves, its easier to declare that nobody else ever bothered to read them, they *know* the pages are indefensible when seen. When people are right and they know they're right, they put forth evidence, not handwave away "the evidence exists out there somewhere, you just didn't look at it".
