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>>78185823
Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag
Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:
>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/
>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed
>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/
>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/
>*-Finally, here are some links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV
>*-Here’s the contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#
>*-We also got a SKYPE CHAT room going on,
To join the chat, seek out 'scribblehatch' or 'starlinemike' and they'll add you in.
Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qby0ed4aVpo [Embed] [Embed]
Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf
Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/
>>78185849
And now I'm waiting on the promised explanation of face/head/whatever golden ratios various studios and artists use as guidelines, seems interesting.
>>78185902
you just had to do it didnt you
Nother break from Mimi and other tasks. Finished some buttons. One task down, 3 to go.
Doing your best is just the tops.
There's nothing better tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELv8yBJi-Kc
>>78185934
Huh? The guy said he'll draw an example and I'm simply interested what it'll turn out to be, especially since somebody mentioned different styles focus on different values or something.
>>78186009
Don't you mean, there's nothing better than shutting out all criticism that isn't glowingly positive?
So I've hit a writing block in my comic. There aren't enough characters and I'm not really sure how to fit more in. I think the story might be too short and too small for a webcomic.
Basic outline:
>girl is nearly hit by a truck on the street
>girl meets Death (pictured: a grim reaper kind of character), finds out she was supposed to die
>girl convinces Death to take a vacation and experience the world of the living
>Death really enjoys the world of the living and, as a byproduct, stops doing her job
>Death (the concept) slows to a halt and people are not dying, Death doesn't care because she's having too good of a time
>girl has to find a way to fix what she ultimately got herself and the world into
The way I'm writing it, the girl is the only person who can see Death, so I'm not sure how to fit other characters in.
>>78186446
She has to get Death to start doing her job again, so I imagine there would be a lot of comedy where she tries to convince Death to do her job while bystanders give her funny looks.
>>78186446
Isn't this the plot of a family guy episode? This sounds more like a short comic than an ongoing webcomic.
>>78186525
>Isn't this the plot of a family guy episode
You're fucking joking. Is it? Oh my god :(
>>78186525
Also, yeah, that's what I was thinking. It seems like it'd be more of a short than a full-length webcomic. I have other concepts for longer webcomics, but everyone always says to start with a short one. I'm just worried it's /too/ short.
>>78186549
Yep, Season 2, Episode 6: Death is a Bitch.
Death comes to reap Peter but sprains his ankle while in their house. He's out of action for a while, so people stop dying. Peter has to do Death's job while his ankle heals.
The idea of a little girl befriending Death is still a good one though, you just might want to think of a different angle.
>>78186549
and a simpsons episode, dont forget that
nothing new under the sun and all that shit
>>78186358
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMR5JVo21wQ
>>78186446
Make it a short story, rather than an ongoing. Aim for 20 or 24 pages, and you can eventually print it out as a self-contained comic.
>>78186625
I think there's even a Brother's Grimm story about a man who catches Death in a sack, and everything stops dying.
Doesn't matter if the idea has been done before; what matters is the execution.
>>78186616
The girl doesn't take over Death's job, Death just starts being a lazy ass. Still, that is pretty similar.
G-god damn it, /co/, I've been working on this story for years. My refusal to watch Family Guy has finally bit me in the ass.
>>78186625
:'(
http://bug-quest.tumblr.com/post/135216261175
That computer bitch stole his stuff!
>>78186661
Yeah, that seems like the best idea. Would people even give a shit about a short webcomic? The shortest I've ever read is probably The Well On The House By The Hill, and even that was 50-some pages.
>>78186724
They're definitely good to have. They make you look like more of a consistent artist rather than just having one idea.
>>78186446
Heyyyy. There's an episode of Twilight Zone you may wanna watch.
http://www.hulu.com/watch/440828
>>78186842
I'll keep that in mind. I'll definitely try and make it into a shorter piece and not overthink it as much.
Reposting it.
>>78187034
Sorry if you've answered this before, but why are some lines super smooth and other ones more pixely/binary tool-looking? Is that a stylistic choice?
>>78187109
Arching is hard for me.
It always took all the fun from drawing. You probably wouldn't understand because you used to that kind of junk or got a better art program.
Also layers fuck up and I really do not want start over. I keep on trying until I started to like it.
>>78185981
My heart canna take it
>>78186446
fucking cute style
makes me wonder what would have happened if yusuke had managed to convince botan to just chill and hang out
or even more likely, Koenma.
>>78186661
That's an old russian folktale, and he does all kinds of cool shit. Catching death in a bag is one of them. What's awesome is once he lets him out, death is too spooked to ever come near him again, so he's immortal. Similar things happen when he tries to just WALK to both afterlives. he's too badass for his own good
I also liked Chakan the Forever Man, dueling death, winning, becoming immortal, and then being tasked with destroying all evil in the world and being tortured with all the screams of everyone in the world in pain whenever he stopsthen when he clears out all the evil on earth it turns out they expect him to clean up all the universe
point is nothing is totally original
>>78185823
for the recycle picture guy
>>78186724
i like artists who do series of unique short webcomics. every so often I get to enjoy their new project.. Maybe they have multiple ones at once that update at different times. it's all good. kiwis by beat always comes to mind
>>78187109
he just got SAI
>>78187800
shaded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgBZSKXpphg
>>78185902
Sorry for being lazy about it, but I don't have the pdfs of the books that talked about it in greater detail anymore.
In the top left is one of the earlier versions of Bugs, which didn't have as many "golden ratios" as the newer version.
Next is a drawing someone did to make guidelines for Elsa. A lot of the lines follow the same rules, and prominent features land on meeting points. This is pretty common in Disney characters, and goes pretty far back in their history from Snow White to Big Hero 6.
Next is Pixar's rendition of Toothless, from How to Train Your Dragon. They modeled him after a cat, and his facial features follow pretty closely to a golden ratio because of this. It's the same reason babies and baby animals look so cute. Big foreheads, disproportionate eyes, button noses, they all follow a substantial curve. Lots and lots of images have been made showing those lines, some more credible than others. It's hard to dig through the shit to find what you need.
Then I picked two random anime screenshots. One more moe, one more 'realistic'. Both of them very different, but both have similarities. The eyebrows meet at a point similar to where the pupils meet the cheeks which create a gap for the nose that meets a line for the mouth.
I was a little lazy with it and it definitely isn't perfect, but the idea is that the ratio makes things more pleasant to the eye. It's not an exact science that artists use, they just draw something 'close enough' to create appeal. How they proportion things to reach that 'close enough' is up to them, but as a general guideline if you want something to look appealing, make sure it has good proportions.
If you want more exact lines and comparisons, find overlays on real human faces. There's a program called PhiMatrix that helps to do this with your own pictures, but I haven't tried it so I can't really vouch for it.
Don't take it as a law, because there are always exceptions. It's just a guideline that helps.
>>78188231
Generally, you want to keep track of the eyes/pupils, eyebrows, nose, mouth, and chin. Those are the main features that you want to have fit the curve.
>>78188231
the corners of those squares don't correspond to anything in the drawing though
>>78188231
But Frozen is ugly. The nose is too low. Why doesn't your diagram show that?
It looks like someone just drew random shapes afterwards and said "See?"
Making some updates to the art. Also updating in pagespreads to double the pagerate. Hope you guys like it!
http://www.beatwarriorcomic.com
>>78188631
The corners aren't the only thing to worry about.
>>78188677
The diagram wasn't drawn to show phi, it was drawn to show proportion. The fact that you're already seeing phi in it shows that already.
And, if you could read, I said that it's a guideline. Not a rule. I personally hate all of those characters other than maybe Toothless, but they're all still good examples of multiple studios and artists following the same guidelines.
>>78188820
*shows that you're seeing it yourself already
Sorry, a little tired. Jumping ahead with my thoughts.
>>78188677
>Frozen is ugly
My heart.
>>78188810
Ha, this looks fuckin' cool, dude.
>>78188810
>http://www.beatwarriorcomic.com
your art has really grown
>tfw you spend forever on little details on comics and people are just gonna glance over the panels
>>78189309
it's worse when you lazy out the backgrounds and everyone notices
>>78189328
it's worse when you lazy out on coloring 2 background characters and no one believes it's a stylistic choice
>>78189392
I see what you did there you sly dog you.
>>78189309
THAAAAAAAAAT'S COMICS
>>78189309
The whole point of comics creation is to spend more time thinking about the comic than the readers ever will. They don't notice it, but their brains do.
>>78187930
I need a answer.
It is really worth it? Ms paint seem to be more funnier than gimp.
I really love Binary art.
>>78189328
>it's worse when you lazy out the backgrounds and everyone notices
It's worse when you intentionally put in an Easter egg and people obsess over some random generic background character looking like so and so from some obscure anime you've never heard of.
Readers are weird.
>>78189824
And it's WORSE when you put in an intentional Easter egg/reference/homage to a popular thing and get a bunch of people going "oh, Anon's ripping off [such-and-such]"
I fucking hate comics but here I am
>>78189691
i hear you dude. not everyone wants to work in vector.
but just because you work binary doesnt mean you have to use something godawful and be scribbly. Ideally you'd like your work to look like, say, Prequel, right?
I think Sai can do that (someone else let him know if/how) and I know other programs can
>>78190062
Sai can do that. You have to use the "legacy pen" tool.
>>78190148
dildo spears are my hero
>>78187800
>>78188131
Oh, And thank you bones...
You know what? In another life, We could be friends.
>>78186661
>it's the execution
True, but the execution's been done better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvsnV0yNddc
>>78191097
not fair to compare yourself to henson, man.
but yeah that is the best version of that story that has ever been done.
>>78186446
Check out the book Mort by Terry Pratchett, it's a similar kind of story, if I am recalling right.
>>78191570
I will, thank you.
>>78191097
Yeah, the "bargain with death" story is pretty common. I'm glad people are giving me so many versions of the story, part of it makes me discouraged, and another part of me is thinking "well, there's already this many versions of the story, why not".
>>78191722
give it a twist of some kind
instead of the same ol' grim reaper (or the almost equally cliche 'actually he's a chill guy the grim reaper'), make it something else. Maybe it's anubis or thanatos. maybe it's some kind of fat little bird like the one sitting on her head (i mean i guess a raven is more thematically appropriate). Maybe a guy who comes off like the superintendent of a building. something where you're surprised THIS guy is in charge of ALL death, and really go into his personality so you understand why he'd wanna just chill out
>>78191820
I don't know if I want to change her into a guy. I'm pretty attached to the idea of her being a little girl. I think that is kind of surprising, considering what she looks like. Then again, maybe that's cliched too.
>>78191820
Oh, shit, wait. I fucked up my original description. The character pictured in >>78186446 /is/ Death.
>tfw you can't write or draw for shit
How do I get into doing comics?
>Share your website/portfolio
http://jimwellsart.com/
Posted in the last thread.
I'm still tweaking and messing with everything on the page. Would like some critique on my webpage.
>>78192100
wait what?
>rereading your post
ohhh death is a girl too. okay! that hasnt been done very often if ever
>>78192438
Start drawing or start writing. Or, uh, start learning how to letter, maybe.
>>78192461
Cute art. Webpage looks kind of simple, did you build it yourself or are you using a Weebly/Squarespace/Moonfruit type dealie?
>>78186724
My comic is only 30 pages - though I'm not sure how many people give a shit about it! But I was always planning on printing anyway.
>>78192471
DC and Marvel have female Deaths.
>>78192438
do something dumb and pointless first so there's no stakes. draw a kinda ZIggy
>>78192664
oh okay. i havent seen those. but i assume theyre more morticia and less wednesday, right? i want death to be like a teenager that gets over her deep poetry phase and just gets into anime and videogames and gets bored with the whole death thing
>>78192520
I'm building it with adobe muse. Trying to keep it to the point.
>all these cactus captchas
what's going on tonight?
>he's not working on his webcomic right now
What're you doing that's so important?
![death_and_lex_luthor_funny_moment__by_bassemobil-d74v2rq[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/88Ju9hW.jpg "death_and_lex_luthor_funny_moment__by_bassemobil-d74v2rq[1].jpg")
>>78192810
Boop
>>78192871
that's just Domino. that's boring
>>78192869
Watching Samurai Jack.
>>78192829
>not using legacy captcha
>>78192871
Cute! My death's a lot younger-looking than that, though.
>>78192869
Client work, now and forever. Gotta git that (always late, always underpaid) money. The only reason I'm not always working on webcomics/personal projects is because of all the big boy work I have to focus on all the time
>>78192829
It's better when all the street sign captchas were bugged and rarely worked, forcing you to do an endless cycle.
>>78192977
Eh, sometimes you'll be lucky and get the house numbers. Other times you'll get this ancient font of random letters overlapping each other.
>>78193014
That is cute!There's anime Deaths as well.
i want your tender opinion /hywc/ - would you most be interested in a short comic about:
-a girl witch, her weeaboo best friend who uses spirit week as an excuse to wear cosplay to school and wants to major in "sequential art", and their other friend "wolf girl" a shy girl who wears wolf ears and a tail to high school
-a trailer trash scene kid whose dad is a high school football coach and mom was a professional cheerleader and his four siblings living in, you guessed it, a rural trailer park
-high school girl who does color field paintings for her AP art concentration fantasizing about having her own episode of Art21
-other trailer trash kid who really loves foreigner pretending to be a real juke box hero
all of these would be comedy/magical realism (though the first two would have more of the latter)
What makes you think you have what it takes to create a webcomic? Genuinely curious. Was it praise from your peers in your youth that gave you the push? Or was it inspiration from something you've read?
Or are you just a retard who doesn't know what's going on but wants to put pictures with words?
>>78193014
wait, so that girl IS death?
OH fuck, you did say 'pictured'
but you also said 'a grim reaper kind of character' and she isn't remotely one visually, which is typically what that character archetype means: a look.
... well now i think she's almost perhaps a bit too generic. but I'm still cool with this.
>>78193071
it should be house numbers all the time until you get 'flagged' or whatever, which gives you the unsolvable captchas (literally unsolvable), at which point you have to switch back from legacy to click-the-pictures. and you'll know when you're unflagged because the pictures will stop 'requiring more solutions' and require fewer pictures clicked per solution
>>78193127
Girl witch and jukebox hero sound the most fun to me. You could do a lot with both of those concepts.
>>78193133
Me draw good. I make art for other people for a living and I want to make my own shit at one point that isn't depressing autobio zines.
>>78193133
NOT having what it takes, and managing to do it anyway, is perversely satisfying to me
>>78193133
the last one.
>>78193127
Love the first one
not feeling the second one, just sounds depressing. needs more of a hook, some kind of a story.
don't know what the third one is. like, at all
fourth isn't a story, more of a drawing. but i want to see that drawing and meet that kid.
>>78193133
I AM DOING THIS BECAUSE I WANTED TO MAKE A STORY! AND GET PORN! AND GET PEOPLE TO STARTED TALKING ABOUT ME!
ONE THING THAT IS GETTING MY WAY IS SHITTY GRAMMAR AND ART! DO YOU WANT MORE? YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE!
But, For real. It is a hobby.
>my GOD the stones on you
>>78193127
none of them sound good to me
>>78193191
Yeah, I worded it like an idiot. I thought describing her as Death and "grim-reaper-like" would give more of an idea of what she's like, but I ended up being redundant.
Here's some old designs of the characters, I wanted to keep Death's clothes darker and more robe-like, and her skin is pale and sickly-looking to kind of give her that "dead" look, I guess
>>78193133
I just always wanted to make comics... I started making zines when I was 12 and just kinda kept going. I didn't really make anything I felt good about until about two years ago though. Also I got to take my first storyboarding test for a TV show months ago and that convinced me I couldn't be totally awful since somebody thought I was good enough to function professionally. How dreamy!!
>>78193336
that helps. i wonder if she'd like, insist on being referred to as a PSYCHOPOMP and not something so crass as a reaper
also your art is familiar.. reminds me of chickenscratch and also that one guy doing that one comic about things fighting.. it had a shark guy and a ginger
i would make the girl on the left's hair rounder but otherwise I really like her.
>>78189309
Or they'll only notice and nitpick all the little details you didn't pay attention to.
>>78193394
Yeah, in more recent art I've stylized her hair a bit more, so we're on the same wavelength.
I post in these threads and drawthreads every so often, maybe you've seen some old stuff floating around tumblr? Who knows
>>78193366
That's awesome. Can you say which show?
>>78193014
Your stuff kind of reminds me of Endling's. One of my favorite artists, I love the style. Did you already link your comic?
>>78193481
nah it's just a common style
shit, othergirl looks full-on dude now. unless that's what you're going for, gotta keep an eye on the face length and nose size. but death is way cute. i'm getting a kinda star-vs vibe now. Is the comic going to be their fun cute slice of life adventures while the one just tries to keep up with the other's shenanigans and coax her into gettin' back to work, as comical death-can't-happen shit goes on?
>>78193133
It was inspiration fromzenpencil
>>78192471
>ohhh death is a girl too. okay! that hasnt been done very often if ever
>if ever
Lol if you seriously think there's even a slim chance that "death/grim reaper is actually female!" hasn't been done by other people before. No original ideas left, anon.
>>78193609
i cant think of it offhand. Outside of norse myth
my favorite death will always be the one frim bill n' ted.. but Anubis as voiced by Tony Jay was pretty fucking powerful in a great way.
>>78193592
High praise, thank you. And no, it doesn't exist yet.
>>78193604
Ah, shit, I see it. I'll keep that in mind, thank you. And yeah, that's kind of what I was going for in the original script drafts. Like, Death having her first sugar rush and going to an aquarium and other bullshit nonsense like that
>>78193221
thanks!! i've had this witch character for a couple years but haven't done anything with her beyond a page or two!
>>78193271
thanks also - art 21 is a PBS show about the studio practice of fine artists in the 21st century. it's really good, but can also be kinda silly and overtly academic. everybody should watch the one about trenton doyle hancock, my guy. also here he is... benjy "stars in his eyes" breyer
>>78193323
oops i forgot option 5
>>78193481
>I post in these threads and drawthreads every so often, maybe you've seen some old stuff floating around tumblr?
I wouldn't be able to tell, the first thing I thought when I saw your drawings here was "wow, that sure is a generic tumblr art style there". Try to push yourself to be a bit more original, you'll want to get to a point where people who do see your art could recognize it as yours, and not have it look the same as half the art posted on some blog site.
>>78193792
Noted, thank you. I think I'm getting to that point a little more every year.
>>78193582
i feel obnoxious name-dropping because i've mentioned it here before, but it's a cartoon network show about rocks.
>>78193832
Oh neat! A buddy of mine got the board test packet too back when the pilot had just came out. I thought she was hot shit. Good work, though, anon!
>>78193641
>i cant think of it offhand.
Can't think of other examples offhand, this must be an original idea!- is not a logical conclusion. Google is right there, it's easy to check.
>>78193873
Thanks!! I applied for the open call this spring but honestly didn't expect to get a bite. It was the most pleasant and affirming surprise!
>>78192471
Wasn't there a season of American Horror Story where death was a woman? Or maybe she was just an angel of death, but she was definitely filling the role of a grim reaper type being.
>>78193704
yeah this sounds good. excited to see where it goes next. i just hope you're as good at writing
eventually we could find out who the fuck appointed her death, what kinda system it is, how if at all she's being compensated. but only like at the end.
>>78193732
hmm, he's less badass than in my imagination.. but it's still fun. Uhhh are you the same guy doing that band toon?
>>78193792
well in fairness so far he's posted 3 very different types of art. and the one that was the most generic was also the most.. yknow,.. good. there's a reason art styles get repeated so often. better the almost-disney "tumblr style" than the henry-and-june steven-universe one
>>78193792
Wish there was a way to keep bones here permanently banned. The baiting is fucking atrocious.
>>78194071
yes, that is me. i'm that guy.
>>78194101
"Generic" does seem to be the most common criticism when I post my art on here and on /ic/, though. I get it.
>>78194261
so you're doin s'mo comics eh? well nothing wrong with multiple projects
or did this one finish while i wasnt looking
>>78194269
i think it has to do with your overt strong technical ability and also the visceral reaction to anything that even remotely evokes tumblr. not that it isn't valid, but i personally always recognize your work when you post on here and/or /ic/ and i happen to see it.
>>78193832
You have a show on cartoon network?!
>>78194346
That's good to know, thank you.
>>78194434
They did a storyboard test, you silly fool.
>>78193832
>it's a show about rocks
>works on my current favorite show
What's it like to work in that sort of environment? It's been my life long dream to work in cartoons.
>>78194500
So..they tested him with a cartoon network show?
>>78194327
I have nine pages to go on it, but desperately wanna finish before 2015 ends. I've had it totally planned out since about August so it's just a big ol slog at this point - I'm ready to make my big comic after the small one.
The new small comic will be around ten pages, but I think it's borderline irrelevant since I'm not gonna post it online until after it's printed.
>>78193133
What it takes to create a webcomic? Not much. Do I have it? Sure.
What it takes to crate a good one? Idk. Do I have it? Probably not.
>>78189094
>>78189232
Thanks! With this project it was quite a puzzle to find the right aesthetic for the comic. Right now I'm inspired heavily by Robert Crumb and Ed Piskor, and am currently studying Dave Stewart's coloring style. The goal is to have it feel raw and hip.
>>78194536
A test! They did a TEST!
>>78194434
>>78194536
>>78194501
I took a storyboarding test, which is an audition for a storyboarding job. It was for one position iirc - and I wasn't hired. My test was atrocious though, so I don't blame them! I'm hyped for whoever got hired on.
>>78193133
I went to art school to learn make comics. It was a terrible life choice but I'm stubborn.
>>78194937
Same here. I dropped out.
>>78194937
I almost did but then couldn't afford it, so now I just go to... state skool. :'(
>>78194986
I finished and then decided I hated art and didnt draw much of anything for a year or 2. I might like it again or at the very least I can produce work again without wanting to cry. The more I learned, the less I was able to produce. I became so paranoid about doing something wrong I became rigid and awful and couldnt figure out simple solutions. I'm STILL dealing with it like 4 years later.
>>78195060
how are you so fucking noob?
>>78195060
So, I am teaching art myself.
>>78195083
I wasn't the only one this happened too. Many of my classmates gave up entirely or moved to other fields of art. One of my classmates does pet portraits now. They are better than her comics ever were and she's much happier for it. These things happen. I haven't quite moved on yet.
>>78195115
Do it. Art school is a waste of time and money. Take a class here or there but it wasnt worth the 20k a year I paid. I have no debt for the record so it's not about me being bitter over that fyi.
>>78195083
Did you go to art school? That and this >>78195163 happens to a lot of art school kids after they graduate. It's really sad. In my experience art school doesn't actually teach you how to market yourself properly or even make connections. Shit, sometimes you come out of it without even knowing how to draw any better than you could when you got there.
>>78195060
yeah that's why I didn't go to art school
>>78195246
should've gone to real school
I love being a shit-eater about this kind of things.
Would a chapter where two women talk about another character they thought was a woman but is in reality a man, pass the Bechdel test?
>>78196810
Technically not
>>78193133
I'm ->decent<- at drawing, and I love drawing three things:
Monsters
Girls in pretty dresses
Historical Warriors
So I made a comic where that would be essencially all I'd draw
boop
Oi, thread.
https://youtu.be/WZvucbACmZQ?t=1h2m5s
Go to 1:02:05 and listen for about 60 seconds.
Anyone Can Cook.
Be honest /hyw/, is your protag a Mary Sue/Gary Stu?
>>78187303
Have you tried using vectors?
>>78198197
If the character ever faces adversity at all, no.
Those terms were made to describe fanfiction.
>>78193071
>Other times you'll get this ancient font of random letters overlapping each other.
type the following: anchovies Ð̢̄ͥ̈́̀̉ͦ̌ͪ̃̾ͦͤ̅̓̕҉̖̮̟̱͙͍̩̣℥̨̭̼̭̺͙̩̦̖̳͙̪̱̲ͮ͋̎ͥͦ̉̐͠Ω̶̗͇̲̺̙͚̹̰͖̱̩̽́̓̽ͫͥͯͩͤ́ͤ͊͜℧͈̯̘̱̻͔͖͇̒ͭ͛͛̽̅́ͅℶ̵̽̋͗̃҉̧̨͈̼͔̲̮͚̣̲̳͕̖̙̠̦̼̯̙̕⅊̧̡̘̻̦̙̱̦͔̠̻̝̭̣̥̰͂̆̾̊ͪͦͤ̂͋̂̐̔ͬ̾ͬ͝
>>78196810
>>78196945
what if he's the ghost of a man inside a skeleton doll?seriously though anyone who uses the term bechdel test against you is sure to be your friend when gender ambiguity is in the works
>>78198197
No, thank god. I couldn't live with a story where they were.
>>78198197
i do plan to one day include a full-of-himself character named martin stuart
but i cant think of anything beyond the pun
>>78198209
isnt he using vectors?
>>78198316
Pretty sure he's doing it with a mouse on a raster layer. With vectors he could still work with a mouse and get nice fluid lines because you can edit the curves and stuff.
>>78198077
this thing where you give tons of uplifting motivation and support, appropos of nothing, when nobody expressed a need for it, reminds me of something. i swear i've seen it before in fiction. the closest i can think of is that king of the hill episode with the crossdresser whose mother is so utterly supportive that her support is literally the only thing she can say in response to anything
anyway it's funny and you are great
>>78198292
Do people even take the test seriously anymore? I mean, my comic "passes" it very ealry on, but not because I was trying to be "inclusive" or anything
Sucker Punch passes it while True Grit doesn't.
>>78198331
well he's using anti-aliasing then for sure.
and yeah if youre gonna mouse you might as well use that anchor-pen thing. but i doubt he'll have the patience for it
>>78198408
it is pretty old, but i'm sure feminists love it in the same way people venerate darwin despite everything he said being laughably out of date at this point (while still being certain nothing they hold true will ever be out of date)
>>78198197
Yes. And I'm proud of it.
>>78198340
Well the page count for my site is pretty low this past week.
>>78198197
I actually don't know. Do you guys think my characters are mary sues?
>>78199595
I think Jack is your self-insert. The reason why he and Annabeth haven't started dating is that he's very true to you IRL and you are a virgin.
>>78193133
I've wanted to make comics since I was 11 years old. Comic writing is the only skill I've put any real time and effort into developing. I fucked up in school and have no other marketable skills. This is what I'm here for.
>>78199646
Jack actually was my self insert, hence why he was originally named Zach, but he changed into his own character. The real self insert isSarah.
>>78199702
You never denied being a virgin, which means soon I will be the first ever to tap your sweet, sweet boypussy.
>>78199720
Yeah, but Jack isn't a virgin, he scored with Neptunia remember?
>>78199735
Rape doesn't count.
>>78199764
No, I mean In chapter 12 they did.
Though it was off screen and only in a written story format.
>>78199764
Yes it does so.
>>78199764
>>78199782
>>78199778
Ah, here's the story where they had consensual sex http://pastebin.com/2Tttf3Hh
>>78193133
I realized that even if the end result sucked, I haven't really got anything better to do with my time. Drawing comics is kinda fun, and it's cheaper than video games.
Besides, it's not like "what it takes" is all that much, depending on the kind of comic you want to make.
>>78198197
One of the main cast is half of a Mary Sue, she's extremely talented but is shunned by society. She's in the story as both an example of an archetype characteristic to the genre and a counterpart to the main character.
I'm still not sure if it stays like that though, I change at least minor concepts and plot points pretty much every week.
>>78195060
That sounds like my adventure with programming. I used to be so enthusiastic about it in high school, but after finishing college and two years as a programmer I left my job. Everything is more appealing to me now, I worked as a cashier on 14 hour shifts recently and even that was better if you don't include low salary and how little free time I had for myself. This is also why I don't want to ever make drawing my job. If somehow I launch my comic and it gets successful, I'm planning to not charge a single USD for it. I imagine Jeph Jacques must be living through hell.
>>78200202
I had a cashier job too oddly enough. I'd rather draw but being a cashier took no hard thinking. My spine and hips couldn't handle the standing and I was very sick of half the time I was working. The main reason I draw at all is because I hate everything so I know it's either I force myself or I do nothing.
>>78185823
Had an idea for two webcomic though it never went passed planning stages because of multiple reasons, mainly the fact I can't draw for shit.
The first one was inspired by something that I read on a Calvin and Hobbes thread. It would be set in a 'Battleworld' like setting, where many famous artists lived. In this world, a regular man would desperately look for originality and then attempt to create his own stories. The entire message would be about how even if it seemed that everything had been created you should always try something new.
The other was a book about a group of immortals all of whom achieved immortality in different ways and were based on the Myers Briggs personality types. This book would be a mixture between something like Constantine, Doctor Who, Baccano! and Kara no Kyoukai. The immortals would either investigate or be dragged into various abnormalities of the supernatural in at different time periods. The cast would slowly change as time and stories went on as certain characters would fade into the background or die. The only cast members who would be guaranteed to show up in most arcs would be the Immortals themselves who sometimes may just have supporting roles.
Pic would be the basic personality types.
>>78200149
Honestly, the definition of Mary Sue has become so broad it describes any main character the reader doesn't like.
I think the Author self-insertion combines with the character being good at almost everything is what makes one.
I mean, heroes in an adventure series will MOST OF THE TIME be compétents/talented at what they do; it's almost inevitable. Mine are competent too, though ultimatelly tend to need help for one another to progress.
Don't call me edgy, but are there any pieces of fiction that ascribe demons (red skin, horns, work for the devil, chill in hell) as aborted fetuses? As in they immediately are sent to hell to be raised by other demons instead of just being fallen angels/corrupted men/blood related to Satan
Secondly, what about very young children (younger than 2 years old) who unknowingly commit sin before tragically dying going to hell and raised to be demons?
Just curious.
Client work is the devil. Never again. Still so much more to do. Here's some side-project stuff from a script I need to finish rewriting. We got the vibe down finally though. New Sisters this Friday.
>>78193133
I was young and foolish once and we decided against science and law enforcement. That and we saw a lot of people doing it wrong and wanted to do it right.
Also early teenage years during the webcomic boom/bubble in which it seemed like a good idea. Which I think is probably the reason most people are here. It seemed like a more powerful media when we were younger.
>>78193127
>Girl Witch, Weeb, Wolf Girl.
Honestly, you've got the skill enough to make this endearing. That's some very sad content material and seeing it comedy/magical realism could sort of uplift the subject matter. Because everyone did embarrassing stuff in high school while trying to figure out who they were; and they may laugh about it someday but the rough times spent trying to find your tribe can be brutal.
>Juke Box Hero
This is also the correct choice.
>>78201428
An aborted fetus is covered by much of the same scripture that says "If you never knew about God, and had the potential/good in you; you go to Heaven." And that's without stepping into the whole "are they even human at that phase" thing. Most of the time they count as innocent for the purpose of further condemning the aborter to Hell.
Very young children who unknowingly commit sin are in the same situation. With the bonus of possibly being baptized. Intention and penance are huge deals, and if it was unknowingly committed it lacks intention. And if they died tragically, could take a God's Will form of cosmic penance. Likely not hell.
What you're looking for, comic-wise; is probably something like the Succubus/Incubus deal. Succubi gets enough seed to then corrupt it and become an Incubus to create a horrible demon baby/corrupt hellspawn child. Which is really more a Fish Out of Water Hell on Earth thing.
>>78201428
Not sure if it counts but theres a creepypasta called My Best Friend Never Existed where a guy is haunted by a miscarried baby. It takes more an an Anya's Ghost kind of turn though.
>>78201610
The setting would have to establish Christianity as following a stricter/older denomination, or some fictionalized mashup that allows babydemons, with the ignorance clause some Satanic disinfo (like fossils).
>>78201428
I don't know of anything that fits those criteria.
The game Dante's Inferno did have a bit in Limbo where you plow through unbaptized children with your scythe, but given its Christian basis, they weren't really demons.
>>78201610
The modern Church's position is indeed that unbaptized innocents can go to heaven, but it's been a topic of some debate over the millennia, with some theologians arguing that they ended up in Limbo (Pope Innocent III, 12th cen, though I don't think he ever called it limbo or made it official church dogma) or even some corner of Hell that might not be as horrible as everywhere else (the opinion of st Augustine, 4th cen).
Even if it's outdated theology, it might still make for an interesting story.
I'm not dead.
It's probably too late to really fix anything about this page, but I'm pretty sure there are better ways I could have executed it. Ah well, you live and learn and hopefully do better next time.
>>78198197
I sometimes wonder if he might seem that way, though he's not. He's got some pretty serious flaws, but I haven't explored any of them yet in the narrative, except a vague dream sequence that could have been interpreted in any number of ways.
>>78202375
I missed you <3
Looks fab~
>>78202375
Hey Carrions guy! Nice to see you again.
>>78202561
>I missed you <3
Aw. There's a chance I missed you too, Anonymous.
>Looks fab~
Well, I'm not so much bothered by the art itself as the underlying rhythm/flow and composition, y'know?
>>78202619
Thanks.
I noticed SP had commented over on my comic and I was reminded I hadn't been here for a while. I'd been hoping it might help with my procrastination issues to not lurk here for a while, but I guess it was a pretty silly idea to overcome procrastination by not doing something.
>>78199595
While not a self insert, isn't SD kinda Gary Stu?
>>78202954
>I'd been hoping it might help with my procrastination issues to not lurk here for a while
I took the same decision a little while ago
webcomic:
belongingtonobody.tumblr.com
extra stuff:
dumcasta.tumblr.com
>>78187034
I did another version of this.
>>78203792
Nice explosions.
Bump. desu cuck senpai
Comparison: First concept design sketches (two months ago) and recent ones. I changed a lot. I hope for the better. At this point thanks to you folks for the input you gave so far - I think I worked most stuff in.
General Info: Project's going slower than expected, since I work on so many "construction sites" (visual concepts, worldbuilding, script, etc.) at the moment. My inital plans to start the actual comic in January won't work out. But I'll give my best to not slack around too much.
And sorry all I showed so far are the same two stupid character concepts. I think I'll do some reference sheets and be done with those two rascals for now. Critique and notes, like always, very appreciated.
Since I need to force myself to draw on the tablet more (at least a bit every day would be the best), I might as well redraw my character sheets so I don't have to open my notebooks turned sketchbooks. Not that it's very important as there's no real model set in stone, as in no exact eye/nose/mouth placement, no exact head shape, everything is drawn in a "yeah, kinda like that" way. Even when I had exact models and proportions, they kept changing, so now I don't bother until I find something to really stick with.
Anyway! This is Anita, the main character. Haughty, self-confident, with a bit of a nasty attitude. After winning every competition in her hometown in her age category, she's allowed by parents to move to a high school in the capital in order to compete with the best youths in the country. How will she manage, coming from a backwater town at the foot of the mountains to the big city full of talented fighters?
I love sports manga, so I simply want to draw my own. Won't be my first attempt, though the said first one was an abomination pacing- and plot-wise. At least I learned something from that, I suppose. I also like drawing girls, no surprise here, so I'm bending the world and the setting to accommodate a fighting sport where women can compete on an equal or higher footing against men (World Trigger is an inspiration). I've got a lot of details to work out though.Anita has big breasts because I like drawing big breasts.I'm still not sure if main characters will be going to high school (17-20 y.o.) or to college (20-24 or so), but I think certain plot points will work better with highschoolers, and it will be closer to my chinese cartoons too, ha ha.
I'll be posting these sheets hopefully everyday until I run out of already designed characters. I posted several images of my concept in these threads over the last two years, maybe it's time to finally get to work. Thanks for reading my blog.I know the pose is off.
>>78205525
I envy people who can design nice costumes - not bloated but still cool. I have absolutely no imagination when it comes to that, so I need to stick to normal clothes.
Lucia looked nice in the upper version too, but I think the lower version is generally better. What's the story about?
>>78205595
She looks kinda like Fujiyama from Fujiyama-san wa Shishunki.
>>78205652
I envy people who can draw clothes. I've drawn just a lot of porn so clothing isn't common.
>>78205729
>not drawing dry-humping
Come on, son. Shit's the bestest.
>>78205735
Kill yourself.
No other solution exists, because he creates problems for himself. I don't know why, he just lives off of conflict. Perhaps his existence is so pathetic that he needs conflict to feel like he's fighting for something? Perhaps his mind requires constant occupation and intellectual sustenance he cannot satisfy it any other way than causing problems which he must solve? Who the fuck knows, but it's clear he isn't happy and will never BE happy.
>>78205806
What happen?
>>78205806
Sorry bruh, I posted that in the wrong thread. Solid response though
>>78204044
Thanks. Wasn't really happy with the way effects turned out on this page, but they'll be better next time.
>>78205722
Does she? Huh. The height is completely off though.
>>78205960
That's true, but your anatomy implies a tall height because Anita's head is quite small on her body. Make her head a little bigger so she looks more stubby as short people tend to appear.
Used to read Sinfest back in 2004ish, stopped around 2006. Read stuff like Exploitation Now as well. Currently reading Kill6Billion Demons and Cucumber Quest, and occasionally Oglaf.
Any suggestions for someone looking for more fantasy stuff, ranging from super serious to lighthearted fun?
>>78205652
Thanks. Well, it's just trial and error for me when it comes to costume design.
>What's the story about?
tl;dr: The two main characters travel through a wild west fantasy world.
Lucia Domadora is looking for someone. While being chased. By imperial agents. When she arrives in the frontier, Lucia thinks herself save - she was never so wrong! Even here, far away from the Imperial Mainland she got a big bounty on her head. It was naive to think she could get away with stealing a hierotool* from the royal armory. To get through the wild west world she (kinda) needs the help from Jaime, a former mountaineer who now earns his cash with shady activities. (...) I could tell more, but everything else would be spoilers, so I won't. Sorry, I know very well this tells nearly nothing about the actual story.
*What are hierotools?
Hierotools are weapons or gadgets powered/ activated by aeonite - a psychically receptive mineral. (This means it unleashes energy depending on thoughts and emotions.)
Thought I should give out this info since it gives Aeon Frontier it's name.
>>78206150
Demon's Mirror
Chaos in the Tropics
Para-Ten, if its site was up (which it isn't)
>>78201428
Sorry man, but that seems pretty edgy. I actually like the idea in a way, but it's edgy. There's no way around that.
>>78200402
that first one sounds really interesting
i feel like the second one works better if you leave the test thing in the background, as something to notice and as a guideline for uniqueness for each, not as something explained
>>78201428
Edgy and potentially gay fanbase
>>78206037
She's less than 7 heads tall in that picture. My anatomy is pretty random though.
>>78206150
Unsounded and Gunnerkrigg Court are always high on my recommendations list.
>>78206292
Sooo it's Trigun except with two constant characters instead of one constant and a few additions? Cool, count me in.
>>78201428
The problem is that it's needlessly edgy. There have been more than enough "evil" people in the world to fuel a massive army, you don't need to go looking for new sources. Not to mention, greater demons and the likes don't come from man. In Christian mythos, they're angels that broke away from God. Not all fallen angels were "evil", but a good number of them were banished to Hell.
WIP of the next page!
Guest appearence by Neptunia.
>>78206737
I've been meaning to ask this for a while - big margins suggest you've switched to Manga Studio, yet panels are still slightly misaligned. How come?
>>78206781
Well I've actually been using Manga studio again sense chapter 12, and you see, I use the panel too to make the panels, you know, the basic square tool. I try to get them right, but I just can't get it pixel perfect. But it's close enough for me.
>>78201428
abortion was considered basically the same as infanticide (and wasnt considered that much of a big deal, basically the same as using birth control) for most of history in most cultures, so i don't think anyone has ever found that that much of a deal.. however there are definitely chinese demons that are dead babbys
>>78206737
Either the couch and Annabeth have to be larger in the first two panels or Jack will have to be smaller. There's no way that girl can reach him in the second panel with the distance he is from the couch.
>>78201610
don't you just hate when that happens first thing in the morning? poor flamingoes
>the reason most people are here
tru dat. i saw spritecomics and thought 'shit i can draw this by hand and i won't be so limited!'
>>78205595
I think you're the same tracing guy from yesterday and I still agree with some of the assents there. Your style of face looks really odd compared to everything else. It's kinda like the lazy porn where they put animated characters heads on real bodies.
I guess if you like it, keep on trucking, but you're probably gonna get the same comments forever.
>>78202032
that's prty edgy. more fun if you make it some world where catholicism sprang up earlier and instead of adapting the various pagan traditions it did, it got the much OLDER stuff. molech and ashtoreth and all those.. wrapped up in it.
also a meta hurrhurr at creationists is going to rankle my stanks, i'd rather you said dinosaurs were demon creations that fought in a big war and got turned to stone skeletons as a result of angel spells
>>78206932
Didn't Manga Studio have a feature to make panels through division of the drawing field? That would ensure perfect alignment rather than just close enough, but maybe I'm mistaking it different software.
>>78202375
creepysauce. very nice. the beckoning adds another odd wrinkle
>>78206986
Alright, I'll make the couch and annabeth larger.
>>78203655
i mean, he's based on another character who is in-universe a mister perfect that makes his brother jelly, so that's bound to happen innit
>>78203792
loving those missiles. no idea if they would really look like that in space, don't care.
>>78207125
Okay, just make sure you leave the girl behind the couch the same size.
>>78207109
That's probably the upgraded version.
>>78203655
He kind of is, but as revealed in chapter 11, everyone (except Angel) is just kind of scared of him and that makes him feel pretty depressed.
>>78205525
Hmmmm... I think they looked a little better before m8. I love jaime's new boots, a lot, and I see he's now a lefty. always cool. but the way his cape used to have a nice little aegis / poncho look to it really contributed, whereas I've never been nearly as big a fan of duster jackets. and the extra orange makes it one of his primary colors instead of just a 'highlight'
Lucia's new pants and boots and gauntlet are awesome, i wouldnt change a thing, and I love her top. and I guess her sword is more slender now? also cool. but her old goggles, neckscarf, and smaller eyes worked for her I think. just my five cents
oh and I guess it was silly before to have a baldrick UNDER a jacket, but if you're losing the jacket then you can put it back!
>>78205595
fuck yeah 80s type anime
she has kind of a cute smushed face, which suits her slightly stacked build. I could totally see her being an athlete.. though I feel like she should be a bit taller
>>78206292
Liking this setting. Good green rocks.
>>78206714
just to nitpick, hell is for people. the fallen angels are here on earth, at least for now. there's a lake of fire later but no indication that's the same place we're going.
of course we're mostly talking catholic stuff here so yeah all bets are off. you can go full dante for a story, it's a lot more interesting than canon
>>78207289
Or maybe, just maybe, Earth is Hell. Is this edgy enough yet? Did we do it?
How do we stop Dewd?
>>78207082
Yep, the same guy. Maybe I'll put back my name with the next picture I post for easier recognition.
So you're saying mangaesque head full of symbols won't work with (somewhat) realistic body unless you alter the latter appropriately too? I've never thought about it before but I do think you're wrong if that's what you're trying to say. I don't have enough experience in art to prove you wrong, but applying those ratios you (?) have been talking about in this and the last thread proportionally in one place to make up for a change in another seems like a logical fallacy. After all the reality is the only true ideal; finding rations in stylized work seems to me nothing more than frantic attempts to fit rules into something that has strayed from them on purpose in the first place. The image in >>78188231 doesn't convince me at all. No offense.
>>78207456
Murder me irl.
>>78207210
Which version of Manga Studio are you using? But I don't think use of the Frame* subtool is restricted across Debut and EX, either in MS4 or MS5. It's not the same as the Direct Draw Rectangle tool.
*In MS4 it's called the Panel Ruler Cutter, and has a similar icon to MS5's pic related.
>>78207456
put up a password he can't spellthat was mean
>>78207503
what that guy is saying is often true (of other people), but it's a rule you have not broken. your style currently works, and looks like plenty of real manga. not the majority, but plenty, especially in the older days. Nothing clashes. Just keep in mind that if you aren't careful, things might start to clash
>>78207817
So "you're" then. Because he never fucking spells "you're" correctly, it's always "your" with that hack.
>>78207866
damn hacks with their learning disorders, why cant they just be normal
>>78207896
"Being Dewd" is not a learning disorder.
>>78207503
>My personal opinion doesn't suit your facts, sorry.
You've had multiple people tell you your look works strange for a reason. If you refuse to listen to reason or explanations and insist on doing what you've been doing then that's fine, but acknowledge that it's your own stubborn behavior that keeps you doing it. You're just refusing to take the time to learn.
>>78208252
>multiple people
samefagging is bad enough, don't selfcite.
face it man, your advice is good but it doesn't apply to this guy, his style is great the way it is. he did listen, he's not being stubborn, so cut the crap
>>78208461
I'm not the only one that told him his work looked strange. Go look at the last thread. His style looks strange and dated because it is. Quit samefagging to defend yourself, it's pathetic.
>>78208546
If the artist doesn't want to take the criticism, then just drop it. It's on them to take it and if they don't accept it, don't post a dozen times arguing with them.
>>78208753
That was the end of it, if he wanted to keep samefagging to try and defend his awkward art style because he thinks only one person finds his work weird then I was going to let him. I just wanted to make it clear that it was his choice to do that.
>>78208252
I wish I knew if there's more than one person I'm talking about this with.
Let me get this straight: the ratios apply differently in different styles and one feature might correspond with completely different features depending on style we decide to study, so actual application will vary heavily between each artist's work. Not only that, but the ratios are only guidelines rather than rules, meaning it's fine if they don't even align properly with the facial (or whatever is studied) features in a given style.
What I gather from this is that these ratios are nothing more than a puzzle where you take two rectangles and rotate/resize them until they (kind of) fit into something on a studied piece of art or a drawing. It's very convenient, but it's way too vague for me to consider it a "fact".
In the end I'm not buying it at all, unlike a lot of other information and tips from art books and other sources I have more or less incorporated into my drawings. I might be stubborn, sure, but I'm not going to follow something I neither accept nor fully understand. It's possible it's just an issue with communication though; are there any books or publications on this?
![alanmoore-756522[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/vUN0kGp.png "alanmoore-756522[1].png")
>>78208937
Oh my fucking god, take this to the Batman thread and argue over there.
>>78208832
what would we do without you telling us what is or isn't our own choice
>>78209166
Shut up lower caps anon.
>>78208977
It's not an argument, it's a debate to come to a conclusion. Go bitch somewhere else and let the men talk.
>>78208937
I have a couple pdfs somewhere that I know address it but I'll have to find them. The principle is addressed in this video, where he talks about how when you change or exaggerate one thing you need to do it with another: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMUYG1hkY5c
There's a reason for it. In your picture, you gave them larger eyes but the nose and to a lesser degree the mouth stayed the same size, as well as the skull and neck. Because you didn't really change anything else, it looks unnatural. Specifically, it looks unnatural because it doesn't make sense. When you draw something with a style, it helps if the skeleton under it follows rules.
To start, the jaw and cheekbones you drew in the full-body drawing doesn't match the bone structure in the other two. To a certain point this doesn't matter too much, but you've gone past that point.
You made the eyes bigger while keeping the forehead and eyebrows near realistic proportions as well as the nose, so the skull looks very cramped with very little negative space to balance things out. On top of that, you gave her a very masculine neck and masculine trapezius muscles as well as a stocky torso. This probably would have looked feminine in a more realistic drawing, but because you emphasized certain features and didn't change others it looks out of place.
If you're consciously deciding to do something for the sake of style then it's fine. Keep doing what you like and there are bound to be other people that like it. Just don't forget that these are tools to make your work better when you want them.
>>78209166
I'd tell you, but you're not one to listen.
I'm kind of sad nobody seems to be doing anything special for Christmas other than Dewd and me.
WHERE'S YOUR HOLIDAY SPIRIT GUYS?!
I have a Deviants Christmas image being made as well.
>>78208937
I posted this
>>78207082
And I don't really care about the ration stuff. I'm just saying as a person with not a lot of knowledge of the technical aspects of art, it looks.. the best way I can describe it, is that you traced the body and drew your own face on. It doesn't fit to me.
So if you drew the body sans ref, well done.
I'll put you on my mental list of people to not comment on anymore.
>>78209370
Fine, I going to post my Christmas spirit.
>>78209402
Better not be a euphemism.
>>78209370
I did one last year for christmas adam! What, I gotta every year?
>>78209424
Yes, there needs to be a sequel.
>>78209370
OK, OK. I'll do something when I'm at home from work. And my favorite video game just updated with new content too. Fuck. Oh well.
>>78209424
Well, Christmas is every year, so...
>>78209493
You got a good ten days left! You can do it!
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