Name me a comic book movie that shits on the source material more than this one
You can't
Fantastic
>>78185002
Fant4stic?
>>78184959
Man-Thing
>>78184959
>>78185030
Bendis?
>>78184959
Prove me wrong.
>>78185089
This.
>muh quirky space adventure
>>78185030
>"it's famtastic"
>>78184959
>>78184959Is it really that bad
Too easy.
Most marvel flicks actually
>>78184959
>shits on the source material
Anon, it's Catwoman. Catwoman was already a terrible character. All this movie did was expose that fact.
>Not Baron zemo
>Fucked up Spiderman
>No one dies
Everything about this movie. Hope it flops
>>78185478
>wanting civil war to be like the comics.
>>78185448
Yeah, this one was bullshit. They didn't even use Hank Pym, Susan Storm, or Wolverine
Age of Ultron my ass
should have called it Age of Iron Man
Nothing here except >>78184959 and >>78185076 has actually really taken a sloppy, diarrhetic shit all over the source material, everything else actually paid attention and took effort to use it. You people are pathetic crybabies.
>>78185520
>Marvel drone back tracking
>>78184959
Probably Howard the Duck.
>>78185619
>Susan Storm, or Wolverine
How new are you to comics?
>>78185704
Back tracking? No one ever wanted it to be like the Civil War comics.
>>78185704
not that anon, but why the fuck would you WANT it to be like the comic book event?
>>78185030
No becuase that at least was faithful enough to have them be explorers and scientist...
>The book is existentialist, and its main joke, according to Gerber, is that there is no joke: "that life's most serious moments and most incredibly dumb moments are often distinguishable only by a momentary point of view." This is diametrically opposed to screenwriter Gloria Katz, who, in adapting the comic to the screen, declared "It's a film about a duck from outer space... It's not supposed to be an existential experience."
I'm stumped. OP nailed it pretty much
>>78185155
Don't have to prove you're wrong when the movie does it by itself.
>>78184959
It's got Hale Berry in it - how bad can it be?
>>78185704
Except the Civil War story WAS legitimately terrible, anon.
>>78185908
Winner.
>>78186023
>infinite power of a Green Lantern ring
>use it to make a chain
>>78185862
>>78185839
>Catwoman sucked because it wasn't like the comic book
>Captain America civil war won't suck because it won't be like the comic book
So it's okay if marvel does it
Think about how fucking good a Catwoman Crime thriller would be. Ant Man already showed us that a cape heist movie can totally work, even be astoundingly entertaining.
But they're never going to do another Catwoman movie because of this monstrosity.
On another note, does anyone think that Anne Hathaway would make a really good Selina but Nolan gave her garbage direction?
>>78184959
I mean I still enjoyed it, but still
>>78186075
Because they do it well and are adapting into a already established universe.
>this hasn't been posted yet
Really?
>>78186052I liked it
>>78186090
>On another note, does anyone think that Anne Hathaway would make a really good Selina but Nolan gave her garbage direction?
Except her and her direction was great in TDKR faggot fuck...
>>78186122
Yeah, but that Satan scene.
>>78185214
Autism
>>78185030
F4ntastic was p faithful to ultimate ff desu
Had they called the movie Fanatic Four: Ultimate (or some such bs) I think they would at least conceded that the flick was an alternate take off sorts.
But to make the movie passable they would have had to stick to Bendis' six issue origin arch, focusing on Moleman and setting up Doom for the sequel instead of shoehorning the Dewbot greenscreen climax in a story it had no business being in.
>>78186090
>Think about how fucking good a Catwoman Crime thriller would be.
Okay, this is getting insufferable. We need to figure out how to get all the Valentine-fags to fucking LEAVE.
It's Catwoman. She's always been, and always will be 100% worthless. Stop pretending otherwise. Stop pretending to like her. For fucks sake.
>>78186122
I can't really be mad as I just never read the book though
any time anything heavily involves a religion, I just stay away
>>78186152
>>78186075
>Catwoman = Captain America
for fucks sake man
>>78186113
There we go. There's that drone
>>78186140
She doesn't act or even really look like Catwoman with the costume design in TDKR.
I know a lot of people disagree on this but I honestly thought she was one of the weaker points of the movie. I know she could pull it off, but she was way too cold for Selina.
I liked Hardy's Bane because he had a little bit of the hamminess that a comic movie should really have
>>78186163
somebody hasn't read any Brubaker, m8
>>78186075
>Catwoman sucked because the new direction they went in sucked dick
>Civil War might not suck because Winter Soldier was actually better than it had any right to be.
>>78186170
>Hellblazer heavily involves religion
Only insofar as that their are demons/gods/creatures from all types of religions and mythologies. Even Ennis doesn't throw a stance on religion into the work
>>78185819
snagged your IP addresss newfaq, I'm coming to get you...
:^)
>>78186248
>Brubaker
Who?
I don't give a shit who ends up writing her, the character herself lacks merit on a basic, fundamental level. The hell is wrong with you people?
>>78186149
...Which shits on the source material by having Lucifer himself (who has abandoned hell at that point in the comic) do the healing because John was gonna go to heaven instead of having one of the best keikakus in comics?
>>78186202
>calling someone autistic on 4chan is reddit
>>78186346
>I hate this character on a basic level despite the fact that I haven't read her ONLY good run
get good friend
>>78184959
You're implying it attempted to follow the source material at all. It didn't. Magic powers, leather bra/shredded pants/Hawkgirl helmet, black, the plot didn't parallel any Catwoman story, HER NAME WASN'T EVEN SELINA KYLE.
>>78186394
No, liking GOTG is
>>78186401
>good Catwoman run
Nice oxymoron, dipshit.
>>78186346
>Is a characterfag
>claims he has a worthwhile opinion on cape comics when he doesn't even know who Ed brubaker is
>can't even use google
what makes her shit on a fundamental level anon?
This should be good
>>78185655
>This.
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH
Jesus Reb, calm down.
>>78185655
Except the John Constantine movie where he's Keanu Reeves as an american? Or Howard the Duck which rejected the premise of the book, as confirmed by the director?
>>78186430
I don't like GotG i just think only using buzzwords to describe what's bad about it means you probably have some form of autism
>>78185655
I think you just have really shitty taste and don't read many comics.
We all have opinions anon
>>78186450
She's every femme fatale cliche ever (so much so that she helped ingrain said cliches into popular culture), but with nothing even remotely unique of her own except for some insipid cat theme. There's simply nothing interesting about her, and there never will be.
>>78186502
You're not doing it right. It's more
>HUWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRGH
>>78186064
No one's ever accused Hal of being the smartest.
>>78186566
Go back to fucking Reddit already
>>78185655
>this fucker
Anon's right. Film adaptations are generally not going to be 1:1 with the source material just due to time constraints alone, and even with what can fit needs to be adapted to work to the creative strengths of those working on the film.
To really take a shit on the source material, a film has to actually be shit after taking liberties. Or take so many liberties that the result is unrecognizeable, Will Smith I, Robot levels of being completely unrelated.
>>78186627
So you've never actually read a good Catwoman book. Alright, m8.
I honestly think Valnetine's books were fairly flat and boring, but Brubaker's shit is 10/10.
>>78186858
>So you've never actually read a good Catwoman book.
No, because 1)I fucking hate Catwoman and you'd have to pay me to sit through her bullshit. And 2)A good Catwoman book cannot exist under the physical laws of our universe.
>>78186899
>quips
>banter
>fights
>ooze
Doesn't fit the criteria bromigo
>>78186900
Did Catwoman kill your parents, or something?
>>78186813
So like half of the things in this thread?
>GotG film turns the team from an intentionally assembled peacekeeping force to a ragtag group of prisoners accidentally caught up in saving the Galaxy, makes Ronan a cosmic badguy which he hasn't been in fucking ages and ages, especially in relation to the modern GotG
>Howard the Duck rejects the premise of the comic as an existentialist experience and makes it a whacky space duck comedy
>Constantine makes the British charismatic main character who uses his wits to get out of situations a brooding American who is saved by sheer dumb luck that has a mystic arsenal. They don't even get the trenchcoat right.
The only reason these things are recognizable is because comics are a medium where the number of writers and artists working with a character is so high that the various different interpretations allow you to feel that the characters are incredibly malleable, and this is true to a large extent. It's also because comics are a visual medium so there is a much lower chance of the visuals being off from something that already has a drawn out design, as compared to a novel where the design was in your head, and therefore can be completely different from what you imagined.
>>78186346
>Who?
Oh, so you're a complete newfag then. Yeah, it's all coming together now.
>>78186502
Reb should've been screaming MORE.
>>78186952
No, she just happened to be a really shitty character.
>>78186971
>Green Arrow
Speaking of shitty characters who piss me off.
>>78187003
Are you well, friend?
>>78186627
Personally I think how much she likes to fuck around compared to other villains is nice. She's a little silly and coy without it being "the silly exterior makes the horrible things the villain does more scary/the silly masks the PAAAAINNN INSIIIIDEEE". I think her playful nature also sets her apart from many femme fatales who are often either very serious upfront or using any sort of playfulness to cover up the tortured past I previously mentioned.
>>78186910
we are talking about source material. The mirage comics didn't really have quips or banter...and Ooze was hardly a plot point (since there was like six mutants total)
>>78185089
Fuck off. It's a fun film, sorry it's not "MUH QUILL"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_H4WCdUT1A
Took a lush vibrant world and turned it into Sin City 2: Shit edition. Also fucked up Octopus.
>>78187092
Not him but i honestly hate how the film costume is the default
His SPACE COP outfit is my favorite cape outfit of all time.
>>78187048
I'm on 4chan arguing with some idiots about Catwoman. The fuck do you think?
>>78187063
>Catwoman-fags LIKE that she has no depth
The rabbit hole deepens....
>>78187134
I like his older outfit as well, and I know it's not the Sarcastic deapan Peter Quill that most readers knew, doesn't stop from liking the movie.
>>78187185
I like the movie, I just think the hey guys do you remember firefly outfit is boring as dicks compared to the britsh space police getup.
>>78187241
That's a fair point, I'm just irked that anything remotely fun nowadays is called out as "reddit"
>>78187115
He got the silliness just not the plot
>>78186899
>>78187081
Those fuckers went out of their way to make some asian guy they found at the last minute to play the actual Shredder in the movie.
(I'm one of those assholes who would've paid to see the dreaded "new" take going back to when the title would've just been Ninja Turtles)
TMNT is that franchise that constantly changes shet with every reboot (comics, cartoons, movies) and still manages to stay true to the basic premise and the heart of what makes this shit worthwhile.
**I haven't watched when they were a music group or added Turtle tits**
>>78188093
>they found at the last minute to play the actual Shredder in the movie.
And say "turtle soup" in Japanese
>>78184959
The Dark Knight
>>78187241
I always felt he looked more like space gestapo in that get-up
Nolan's Batman trilogy should be in the list. It's overrated and isn't anything like the comics.
>>78187003
>hates green arrow
You stupid bitch
>>78189935
>liking douchebro radical-politics Batman with Robin Hood motif
>>78187147
Damn you must REALLY hate Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy I assume
>>78187147
You are just a glass and a half
>>78185448
Ya wolverine didn't even kill himself
>>78186075
The fact that it isn't a faithful adaptation is really the least of Catwoman's problems.
>>78184959
>>78186090
An actually faithful Catwoman movie could be awesome.
-There's a lot of great source material to work with (Could bring Dini/Brubaker/Valentine on as a writer, they all do a great Selina).
- She's one of the most culturally relevant female characters in comics (People have been begging for woman-led capeshit).
- She's an actual anti-hero and criminal, so it'd be different from the usual capeshit.
- She can be taken in several different directions (heist movie, mob story, complicated hero, revenge flick, etc.)
- Can be sexy/salacious without everyone losing their shit.
- CatBat romance is guaranteed money (as long as it's not the focus).
- Her character allows for a serious/mature story that can also be fun.
Just don't let Snyder near it.
>>78185155
Not even close - Aside from changing one detail in the ending, the movie was as faithful a reproduction as comic fans could ever hope for across any franchise. The movie is almost shot by shot the same as the comic.
>>78195278
The movie's ending is objectively and subjectively better than a giant alien from literally nowhere appearing because reasons.
Fite me /co/
>>78186401
She's had more than one good run.
>>78186445
You're just a fucking idiot.
>>78187003
>hates Catwoman
Somebody fell of the autism tree and hit every branch.
>>78194005
I'd literally kill all of my family and sell my soul for a good Catwoman movie.
Who would you cast as Selina in a modern film? Who could get the look AND the demeanor down?
>>78185448
>killing quick silver
>>78186052
this movie was bad, but it wasn't that far off right?
>>78186099
Like >>78185478 likely a good thing that it was so different from the source material. The Wanted movie, at least the parts I saw, was a lot better than the comic.
>>78185155
Watchmen is INCREDIBLY faithful to the book. Ironically, that's also why it sucked.
>>78188145
faithful as fuck
>>78195879
Rachel McAfams or Eva Green would probably be my two choices.
>>78188166
The whole Nolan trilogy, really.
>>78195879
Charlize Theron, Antje Traue, Bryce Dallas Howard come to mind. There's also probably someone not-so-well-known out there who would fit the bill.
>>78185619
And it was only like six days. Age of Ultron? More like week of Ultron.
>>78195879
Emma Stone, duh
>>78186075
Civil War was crap. Changing crap offers the hope that it might be better.
>>78195343
>I don't know what allusions are
>>78194005
I lovedLoeb'sCatwoman. When in Rome adaptation would be nice.
>>78195982
It was better than the comic.
That's coming from someone who hates Bekmambetov's body of work and thinks he's a talentless hack.
>>78184959
I don't know if they're worse than Catwoman in terms of their lack of faithfulness to their respective comics source material, but the following are at least just as bad:
- The Spirit
- Constantine
- Elektra
- Dragonball: Evolution
- V for Vendetta (the screenplay totally missed the point of the comic by substituting democracy for anarchy)
What, no (Eric Bana) Hulk mentions?
>>78184959
I vaguely recall hearing rumors that the script for the Halle Berry Catwoman movie was actually based on a script from the never-developed "Nightcat" movie (a character Marvel developed in the early 1990s that was supposed to cross over into pop music and film... learn about the character's weird development history at http://thegeeksverse.com/2015/09/09/leaving-proof-278-the-curious-case-of-marvels-nightcat/).
If you've read the Nightcat one-shot Marvel published back in the day, there are some similarities with the Catwoman movie, although they could also be attributed to coincidence based on the fact that both characters have a cat motif.
Would be really ironic if the rumors had any truth to them, though.
>>78186090
Just imagine, there would be a fantastic Catwoman movie that goes largely ignored for the same reasons people ignored Dredd 3D.
>>78195343
It wouldn't solve the problem because Manhattan is an agent of the US government. Since targets were attacked all over the world, someone would have retaliated, regardless of the fact that the US was also attacked.
>>78197794
because its the best Marvel movie?
>>78186075
>Catwoman has good comics to adapt
>Civil War is dogshit
You are very stupid
>>78197463
Wow anon, that was a really funny and original joke there. You should make a youtube channel to make funmy original jokes like that. How about you call itScreenJunkies
>>78198059
I think your statement has some merit, but I also think people mostly ignored Dredd because it was poorly marketed, the trailers were garbage, the whole 3D angle didn't sit well with it's target demographic, and Karl Urban was regarded as a b-list actor.
It's really a shame, because the movie was awesome.
I don't think the same would happen to a Catwoman movie though, since the 2004 disaster has largely been forgotten by everyone, instead of living in notoriety like the old Dredd flick.
>>78186910
>things non specific to the franchise that can be used to describe thousands of things
Wow what a great case.
>>78185155
god, Rorschach is so short.tfw he inspires me
>>78197794
It's fucking ripped straight from PAD Hulk you shit
>>78186372
Yeah, but that Satan scene tho.
>>78186052
Steel was like the closest you could get to comics Steel without Superman being involved.
and honestly, if it wasn't Shaq, it probably would be better remembered.
>>78185089
>>78185214
>W-w-w-what are Celestials? W-w-w-who's Cosmos? W-w-w-who is Taneleer Tivan? Talking duck? Whaaaaaaaaaat!?
Casuals detected.
>>78185155
It was better than the source material. Prove ME wrong.
>>78185478
Are you from the future?
>>78186156
>F4ntastic was p faithful to ultimate ff desu
No it wasn't. Not even close.
>>78186910
>What's "Mirage"?
>>78200337
If you do colored bands, you're not doing Mirage
>>78186090
And what exactly was wrong with Nolan's Catwoman?
>>78186372
>Being this autistic
There's plenty of reasons to dislike the movie but this is not one of them.
Catwoman fag is doing the exact same shit some guy did about Horse Thor like a month ago and getting the same responses. Something fucky is going on.
I've been spending too much time here if I can notice that kinda shit. Should get outside more.
>>78200385
I'm not saying it's a bad scene but it is far off from the source material
>>78200420
>but it is far off from the source material
The con still works the same, which is the point of the entire scene, it doesn't matter that certain details were just changed to fit the story in the movie.
>>78200364
Everything?
>>78184959
I'm trying to think of another movie that doesn't even have the characters name correct.
Until then, no.
>>78184959
Man of Steel
>>78200453
The con does not work the same at all. There is no risk in the film, you must have missed the issue where John is shell shocked that he almost destroyed the world by nearly creating a war between the three hell lords.
>>78194005
Anyone read/remember the old four-issue miniseries that was set at the same time as Batman: year One, it was kind of Catwoman: Year One....well, not kind of, WAS. Another good comic that got sold..I THINK Chuck Dixon may have written it, can't for the life of me remember who the artist was, though. Anyway, a film of THAT would be great....
Has anyone mentioned Men In Black or Art School Confidential, yet?
>>78200845
Yeah it's just called Catwoman: Year One, artist JJ Birch.
those of you that read europe comics know this to be true
>>78200969
You sure? From the late eighties or very early 90's, '92 at the absolute latest? Not absolutely doubting you, Anon, I just thought it was called Catwoman. Ah right yeah quick google says it was written by Mindy Newell and was just called Catwoman, dunno if it was subsequently collected as Year One? Thanks though, Anon!
>>78201130
It's collected as Her Sister's Keeper
>>78201150
Oh okay thanks very much Anon, would love to re-read it, hafta check if it's OOP or if it IS is not going for exorbitant prices....cheers once more Anon
>>78186631
>>78201234
>>78185448
>>78185478
Hey, it's the 1.jpg dumbass!
Hi!
>>78186170
>any time anything heavily involves a religion, I just stay away
That's the saddest thing I've heard in awhile, you're missing so much great stuff.
>>78184959
Any Fox film
I'd like to say Man of Steel, but that's more like a terrible Elseworlds story... on film.
>>78184959
A comic of satirical nature and high complexity was turned into a straight-face glorification of capeshit violence.
The idiotic Zack Snyder can't understand subtexts, can he?
>>78201666
Sorry, meant to have this image uploaded alongside the comment.
>>78200833
Never read the source material, but I can easily say this is one of the worst movies I ever paid to see.
>>78195879
Honestly and I already said this earlier in the thread, I think Anne Hathaway has the potential to be a 10/10 Selina but she was already in the Nolanverse so she probably isn't going to get her own vastly different flick unless she's super interested and lucks out like Ryan Reynolds.
I know a lot of people loved her performance in TDKR and I get it, she was a good character- I just think she was a bad Catwoman with the direction she got. Way too cold, Nolan was trying to go for some topical 99% bullshit.
>>78200213
You are wrong.If you had said V for Vendetta though you would be right
