What does /co/ think of this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFXybTZ0A6Y
It's the first short done by Don Bluth after parting Disney and it's really cute, with some neat characters and good waifus.
Mega link incoming.
https://mega.nz/#F!HlMAHIoB!rWuRGZAA9nhdT8od2nxAfw
It includes also an audio commentary from Bluth regarding the animation in the short as well as an interview with him that was included with the DVD.
I'll dump some webms and pics.
>>78178152
![Banjo the Woodpile Cat.mkv_snapshot_14.54_[2015.12.13_15.51.38].png](https://i.imgur.com/N0r4C7k.png "Banjo the Woodpile Cat.mkv_snapshot_14.54_[2015.12.13_15.51.38].png")
![dvd_snapshot_19.10_[2015.12.12_21.13.24].png](https://i.imgur.com/Rm81BtS.png "dvd_snapshot_19.10_[2015.12.12_21.13.24].png")
>>78178183
>>78178194
>is dis nigga serious
Banjo was that one cartoon that I forgot about for a few years after seeing as a little kid and then couldn't remember the name of. When I asked my mother if she remembered the cartoon movie about the little lost orange kitten in the city that wasn't Oliver in Company, the other one with the three strange colored burlesque cats, she told me I must have dreamed it. Then for a couple more years I just believed that it was a dream I'd had, until I found it online and realized it was real. I took out of the experience a tendency to question reality.
>>78178131
Bluth's animation is always rather nice.
>>78178131
My waifu sense is tingling...
>>78179937
Yeah it really just faded into obscurity. It really is neat for what it is.
>>78180221
Glad you liked it anon.
>>78180297
Yeah they're top tier.
>>78180560
>>78180221
I like that he has no problems drawing women with a more shapely body without making them LOL FAT PEOPLE ARE GROTESQUE like something hateful would do. not to go SJW, but his more chubbier woman are pretty nice.
>>78180760
Just shut up and masturbate to them.
>>78178173
>the crystal gems.png
>>78181455
But that's lewd.
lots of awkward boners for one
some of these designs look pretty popples
>>78181769
>popples
wut?
Well. I'm a fag. I cried.
>>78182157
Maybe I'm desensitized because I've seen it so many times, but what scene was tearjerking?
>>78182446
When he mourns not being at home.
Crazy Legs not coming also got me.
>>78180760
Fat fetishists, folks.
What's next, sumo-sensitive pronouns?
>>78179937
I felt the same way about Bumpety Boo
>>78178152
So you are the anon who promised to share?
Have some fanart.
>>78180221
His second main goal was to preserve the FULL, EXPRESSIVE animation classic Disney was known for, as opposed to limited minimalist animation used for TV and animu.
![dvd_snapshot_16.20_[2015.12.12_21.05.50].png](https://i.imgur.com/coU6bL8.png "dvd_snapshot_16.20_[2015.12.12_21.05.50].png")
>>78185346
From that old cat thread?
Yeah that was me. I'm terribly late.
>>78185959
Thank you regardless.
Also, that image should be either squished to 640x480 or stretched 720x540. Your player should recognize the intended aspect ratio.
![Banjo the Woodpile Cat.mkv_snapshot_17.07_[2015.12.13_15.53.32].png](https://i.imgur.com/6lKmf1D.png "Banjo the Woodpile Cat.mkv_snapshot_17.07_[2015.12.13_15.53.32].png")
>>78186305
Yeah MPC-HC and VLC just screenshot the original ratio from the DVD, I just make sure to force the ratio to 640x480 to fix it up like the video in OP.
Nice to see you again as well, I thought you had this film in your collection already.
>>78186366
Wanted to buy it, missed my chance, now it's unavailable.
And VLC used to not have the aspect ratio problem. For macfags there is the MPlayerX option, and it does not have such problem.
>>78186421
Ah I see.
Yeah I use Windows so it does for me, I usually have to fix it when viewing the encoded video but not the direct DVD.
Glad I could help bringing it you though.
>>78181543
Dat lip is twice the size of her nose
>>78181538
More like >the golden girls fursona
>>78186667
I don't even know who golden girls are.
Should I be ashamed?
>>78186949
Possibly. Or maybe I'm just too old.
>>78186949
Nah not really.
I enjoyed it but it was clearly intended for the older female audience.
>>78187041
To be fair, all but one of them are dead and she's going to outlive a few continents. She's older than sliced bread and the queen of England
Everyone in this thread needs to watch Conversation With Don Bluth right now.
It's 10% pretentious and 90% gold.
>cannot post images
FUCK
>>78187414
4chan is fucking up on every board atm.
>>78180297
>>78180560
>>78181455
Do you realize how disgusting you are?
Y'all telling me nobody has a gif of Zazoo and the girls' dance routine? Priorities, people!!
>>78190420
Give me a bit!
>>78180221
Yup...and I think this is the film he and a couple other guys made in his garage. Dedication to the art.
>>78190369
Fuck off.
>>78190522
Do your parents know about your sick fetish?
>>78190420
I hope this was the part you meant anon.
>>78190629
Pretty sure you're more sick for telling your parents about your fetishes
>black voiced characters have giant lips
>>78190635
Hell yeah, thanks!
>>78190817
to be fair, Bluth gives a lot of characters big lips
>>78190662
>tfw you find out your mom, brother, and sister all share at least some of your fetishes
>>78190894
One of his weaknesses when designing characters.
>>78191066
Is it really?
>>78190635
This is why i'm not a fan of Don bluth, his mouthing creeps me out and somewhat disgusts me a bit. But holy fuck is that shit fluid as all siht.
>>78190817
>implying a lot of black people don't have big lips
Oh yeah I forgot, caricatures of people with skin darker than a paper bag is verboten.
>>78191113
isn't big lips also somewhat common in Russian woman
>>78191108
Considering the budget this short had, it's extremely impressive.
>>78191069
He likes big lips and big jaws a bit too much.
Soon
>>78191734
Better image.
>>78178131
One on the bottom right looks like Amethyst.
>>78191826
>>78181538
>>78191734
How does it feel to be a piece of shit?
>>78191856
feels good man
Guess what just happened?
>>78178131
And people complain baout Disney stuff having sameface syndrome.
>>78192115
Dragon's Lair Indiegogo hit it's goal?
OP here, apparently there was another extra included in DVD, which talks about everything that went on behind Banjo and why it came to be.
I dunno if you guys want that but I can upload it tomorrow if anyone cares.
>>78192216
101%, and 30 days left to go.
They are adding stretch goals.
>>78192278
source this shit nigga
>>78192240
I care.
>>78192308
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/dragon-s-lair-returns#/
>>78192317
Alright Ill upload it tomorrow. If this thread is still up or any other Bluth thread appears, I'll post it in there.
>>78191108
Same here, and also whenever he does fur (like that webm, or secret of nimh) I've always interpreted it as dirty as shit. Dunno why.
Also realistic animal proportions with cartoon faces...
Also, to OP, ripping DVDs with Handbrake is always preferable. Turn detelecine on "default", and frame rate "same as source". If there is an option to "remember aspect ratio", turn that on as well.
The animation is quite fluid and very nice, but I always felt like there is something off about Don Bluth's character designs, especially when he draws anthropomorphic characters.
>>78197050
With these cats in particular it bothers me that they sort of don't look catlike. Especially the face I suppose. Maybe they're leaning too much towards dogs. Those big button noses definitely don't seem right and none of Zazu's trio even has ears.
Why is it so rare to see animation starring cats where they actually act, move, and look like cats? By comparison, dogs are very popular in cartoons but also very often emulate typical dog character, looks, and behavior pretty well, even when anthropomorphized to a higher degree. Sometimes cats come off decently cattish, but usually that is confined to cases where the cat is a more minor role like a villain rather than the protagonists.
Pic related is an example. They got the various dogs across pretty well, but Oliver himself, the main character, was pretty bland and not especially kitten-like, though I'll admit he at least looks alright. Still, except for the way he was supposed to be a bit of an outcast and set apart from the other characters, he could have just as easily been a puppy and he wouldn't be much different. Makes me suspect the people on that movie just weren't cat people.
>>78197552
The only cat movie with cat people on board was Felidae. Writer of the source material co-wrote the script and oversaw the movie's production.
>>78197857
They certainly got things right there.
I kind of wish someone would do a good animated adaptation on one of the cat books by Paul Gallico, the guy who originally wrote Thomasina.
>>78178173
Big lip shiny gets me aroused
>>78197552
>>78197952
Aren't cats really complex, with each being virtually different from one another? That could explain that part.
The people who work on board in these films probably don't have a cat to work with to help with the animations. As for acting...well you could always stereotyoe them, but mire often than not it's always a tired cliche, and as far as looking like cats and starring them, yeah there isn't much of that in animation anywhere as far as I know.
It's a damn shame.
At least one artist who worked on Banjo will be working on Dragon's Lair too!
OP here again, here's the other extra included with the DVD.
https://mega.nz/#!Okt0DIRa!ODFNSlZxpuKimvf1ls-qnK6fQLk-C-0BvOTUXdDUj9g
>>78200503
That's pretty fucking sweet.
I'm having some high hopes for it.
>>78197050
I think Disney has it right in some animation sense. Don gets a little -too- realistic with his designs.
>still no fanart or lewds
;_;
>>78186667
Would you...Golden Girl's Fursona?
>>78200688
>replying to OP
What program did you use to extract, and which settings?
>>78204196
I used Handbrake with different settings for each mkv I made.
I'm at work and unfortunately I forgot what video filters I used aside from keeping the DVD ratio.
Was there something I missed? I haven't ripped a film before until yesterday.
>>78204238
I don't know what you missed, the only person who knows is you.
It seems you detelecined properly – there is no deinterlacing on the main feature.
>>78204598
I'll have to see once I get home, I'll post what I set it to.
>>78204688
Again, the main feature seems perfectly fine. The bonus videos are deinterlaced, and it is impossible to know if that's fixable without owning a DVD copy yourself.
>>78204739
*are interlaced
>>78202946
like what?
I just watched A Troll in Central Park last night and what good god I can see why he was forced to stop making movies. That was some over-animated shit. His studio loved rotoscoping unnecessary things and it just looked bad.
>>78204922
I wonder what went wrong during production of THAT movie. With Lair, they want to spend their newfound money mostly on hiring a really good scriptwriter. I guess they had some rather unpleasant experiences during I'm A Bad Troll: The Movie.
>>78204869
Anything of any of the characters.
>>78205099
After Titan AE, Rockadoodle, Thumbellina and Troll it's pretty clear that Don Bluth's studio just didn't have writing talent. Those movies lacked what Secret of Nimh, American Tale, Land before Time, and All Dogs go to Heaven had.
>>78205289
Rockadoodle was good though.
Why did everyone hate it?
>>78205314
The plot and pacing, putting tons of short, meaningless musical numbers in places. It's not a very coherent movie.
>>78205495
more...
>>78205289
>talking shit about Titan AE
>>78205495
I love you anon.
Never forget that.
>>78205523
The reviews speak volumes. The acting was bad, the writing was bad, plotholes aplenty. And no one saw it. There's a reason why it sunk Don Bluth and it wasn't because it was good.
>>78199433
I'm currently living with 4 cats that I can compare and while they do all have different personalities, they all exhibit some of the same base behaviors common to the species. They can all be totally aloof or skittish depending on the situation, they all demand attention when they want it, go and do whatever they please, like curling up in warm places, bat at string, etc. Yes, if you employ cat-like qualities in a cartoon cat it will always either be or become a cliche, but that happens with every species and it's really not so bad. It's kind of a useful tool in some cases of anthopomorphizing. What surprises me is the amount of cat protags that completely lack any of the old cat cliches at all. Too often cat characters come off too bland, and real cats aren't bland at all. And again, it's strange in contrast to dogs, which consistently come with a certain set of cliches no matter what role in the story they play even though they are extremely overdone.
>>78205289
I heard they were handed the script to Titan AE from another studio and given no time to fix anything.
>>78205963
It can be attributed to not many animators bothering or don't have a cat that they could use for reference, or they base it off one for all.
Some cat characters in anime I have seen tend to be better at being much more diverse than the stereotypical cat though.
>>78204739
Ah I see. I was just worried that the one I did wasn't up to par with other o es usually done by handbrake.
>>78205945
Why, aren't you just a bag of negativity?
Nobody is obligated to like a thing, but you are just plain lying. Lots of critics liked the movie, it made decent money over the years, and Roger Ebert gave it a thumbs up.
It did not make Fox happy because several million dollars went into the movie over the course of the 90s without any progress done. Before Bluth was brought to finally do more than 0 seconds of footage (0 seconds were shot by other people who "worked" on it before) the movie project already cost Fox too much, who were throwing money into the project like naive dumdfucks throwing money at a particular scam-tastic Kickstarter. Fox did not let Bluth animate over 80 minutes, and when the movie was done they literally expected the next Star Wars. Enough people did NOT see it because of the public perception that "2D cannot do serious" and "it's kids' stuff". Fox blamed the movie for being 2D (because that makes sense) and offered Don to direct the next movie in CG (Ice Age). Don said fuck you to Fox and quit.
And the reason I decided to watch Titan AE was because some self-titled reviewer on YouTube claimed it was full with plot holes. I had to check for myself. There weren't any. "Insufficiently explained for me and I didn't get it" is not the same thing as "impossible due to logical contradictions", WHICH IS WHAT A FREAKING PLOT HOLE IS.
Next think you'll probably say is that The Iron Giant is a bad movie because it was a box office bomb in 1999.
Whats with old Don Bluth characters and their big fat lower lips?
I dunno, bump I guess.
>>78211489
I think it makes them look really expressive honestly.
>>78211489
>>78211710
And then there's some guy who can actually imitate said lips down to a science.
>>78214509
Don Bluth or disney should hire her
>>78214509
>>78215018
I thought this guy retraced most of his drawings from stills?
>>78181538I literally thought the same thing
>>78215018
What is this? Are those dogs a reference to other characters from something else, or is this Charlie meeting his dead parents or something?
![dvd_snapshot_24.51_[2015.12.15_22.54.08].png](https://i.imgur.com/P2UPldi.png "dvd_snapshot_24.51_[2015.12.15_22.54.08].png")
>>78197552
Glad I'm not the only one thinking this. I've never seen OP's short before and watching it it's all I could think about is how none of the cats are anything like cats. One movie that does do a cat good is the rabbi's cat, I really love that movie.the cat reminds me of my own kitty who I take for walks, no leash
>>78215567
>he hasn't watched the cat returns
>>78215599
I have actually, what is your point? I said "One movie that does do a cat good", not the only movie. besides It's a japanese interpretation on cat behavior, they over humanize their pets
now get back to /a/
>>78215718
But I like /co/...
>>78215718
Yeah, no one is saying there aren't a number of examples of very well done animated cats. It's just still surprising the amount of times it's done very wrong.
>>78215599
>>78216163
>reading /co/mprehension
>>78215092
It's a theory but nobodys been autistic enough to prove it
