A character, just like a story, should have a beginning and an end. In long ongoing comic book series, such as most capecomics out there, characters are not allowed to have an ending. Everyone is stuck in the status quo, almost every bit of development ever is ruined because characters are not allowed to change, let alone end.
I feel like this is ruining many comics. Good writing is just as much about stopping at the right point as it is about the actual writing.
Pick unrelated.
>how long is Franklin 8 years old?
just read manga
>>78172882
But triple-a manga have exactly the same problem. They go on for too long, and every arc the status quo is reset.
It's frustrating, because the idea of capecomics appeal to me. It's just that the fuck them up by not allowing them to end when they should.
Just read non-corporate owned comics.
>>78172937
read Jojo
>>78172937
Just read smaller characters' runs, plenty have satisfying endings. (There's also a few major characters that have runs with definitive endings, like Johns' Green Lantern.)
Do you also go to /ck/ and complain that McDonald's and Burger King are suffering creatively?
Marvel and DC comics have profit as their #1 priority, not quality.
If you don't like this arrangement then YOU are the problem, and you should read something else.
>>78172964
I have tried to read it, but it wasn't for me.
>>78173015
Could you point me to some good ones?
>>78173057
Unlike McD and BK, I feel that comics have a potential to be so much more than they are, if they'd just get their heads out of their own arses and started putting the story first.
>>78173143
Alan Moore's Swamp Thing can be read by itself, and was quite satisfactory.
>>78173143
>Unlike McD and BK, I feel that comics have a potential to be so much more than they are, if they'd just get their heads out of their own arses and started putting the story first.
capeshit ≠ all comics
quit reading capeshit that you don't like.
>>78173143
>I feel that comics have a potential to be so much more than they are, if they'd just get their heads out of their own arses and started putting the story first.
Do comics only count for you when they're published by Marvel or DC? Do you automatically write off comics that aren't from them?
I'm honestly curious how you haven't noticed that there are already creator-owned creator-controlled comics which put the story first.
No, it's fine.
Look at something like Sherlock Holmes or Doctor Who or James Bond, for example. The character serves as a vehicle for the audience to be exposed to any sort of story the author wishes to tell, within certain contexts.
Sure there are constraints in regards to what kind of story one tells with those characters, but the benefit afforded by the way they create a situation where any author can come in and use the character for a story they wish to convey themes and moods and messages in far outweighs the problem of the continuity being continuous.
The characters may not end, but the stories do. Writers and artists come and go, new creative teams come on, books get shuffled around, just because people are writing more stories about Superman or Daredevil or Swamp Thing or who-fucking-ever doesn't do anything to the quality of previously written stories utilizing the character. You can even have 'ending' stories galore, look at Death of Captain Marvel, Kraven's Last Hunt, All-Star Superman, the Dark Knight saga, Silver Surfer Requiem, etc, etc.
As should always be done, you look at creators and not characters.anta baka
>>78172766
DEATH A CUTE!
>>78173180
I used comics as shorthand for capecomics.
>>78173202
Not really. I quite liked much of the vertigo comics I've read. However, it's immensely hard to hear about, much less get hold of those semi-indie comics unless you're already in the know about them.
>>78173160
I did read that by itself. I liked it a lot for the most part.
>>78173257
That's actually a way of looking at it I hadn't considered yet. The entire cape industry makes a lot more sense that way. I still don't agree with it, but I can understand it.
>>78173294
I can't really decide which depiction of death I like more, Gaiman's or Pratchett's.
>>78173367
>Not really. I quite liked much of the vertigo comics I've read.
Vertigo is DC.
>I used comics as shorthand for capecomics.
If you've totally fucked up this thread then you should delete it and try again.
Or just quit being a baby and learn to try new things.
>>78173396
Stop being such an elitist, dawg. Getting into comics can be hard. Anyway, OP, I found a massive infodump of recs a while back, so I'll just leave that here, and you can see if anything interests you.
>>78173516
And that's it. If you want a few more cape recs, I'd also tack on Johns' Green Lantern, Robinson's Starman and Ostrander's Spectre, Suicide Squad, and Martian Manhunter (not sure if the last two are collected in trades).
>>78173396
>Vertigo is DC.
In the same way that the Nutricia research division is Danone. Sure, they're part of the same corporation, but they do quite different things.
>Or just quit being a baby and learn to try new things.
Holy shit man, you couldn't project any harder if you'd place a 500 watt beamer lamp in your skull and looked at a blank wall.
>>78173497
That's pretty damn awesome. Thanks!
>>78173367
>I used comics as shorthand for capecomics.
