Does anyone else miss the Exiles? We should talk about the Exiles.
I miss them a whole lot. Just the concept alone is worth keeping the property alive even without the same cast.
I still wish Marvel would reboot it with Alex Wilder and a bunch of teen characters. If they don't want to use more X-characters.
>>78115452
Why would they take a mostly X-book about a team of experienced heroes doing the tough shit that needs to be done into a teen book starring the worst Runaway?
>>78115384
>>78115351
but we have web warriors now with Spider-Gwen. and a bunch of dudes.
Who do y'all think were the best Exiles? I quite liked Mimic, Magnus, Nocturne, and Namorita.
>>78115785
Do they have a tallus?
>>78115788
You mean Namora? She was a hottie witta body
>>78115830
they have a karn.
>>78115984
What's a karn? Is it a red jewel that talks to the leader?
Spider best Carnage.
Well, after Carnageman.
>>78116134
The fact that he seems to be the only alt-universe version of Spidey that keeps the symbiote.
>>78116176
>>78116134
Was Spider's suit a symbiote? I don't remember them ever talking about that, but I liked him. He was a real asshole.
>>78116214
I think they mention that he has an "alien suit" in his bio at the beginning of Iron Doom, and if nothing else just the way it behaved made it seem like a symbiote suit.
>Morph actually isn't Morph anymore
For what purpose?
>>78116176
And it's Carnage instead of Venom. Go figure.
I liked Skrull Rogue, too. And Cyclops with robot arm. Probably more, but I don't remember much.
>>78116214
Yeah, it was Peter wearing Carnage.
>>78116231
Oh, man, that Tony Doom story was fucked. Really, anything that happened to the Weapon X team sucked.
>>78116241
Didn't New Exiles make it so that Morph survived inside his own mind, and ended up becoming pals with Protreus?
>>78116260
Skrull Rogue and roboScott were both from Nocturne's home reality. I really wanted to know more about Skrull Rogue.
>>78116272
They merged, I think.
>>78116260
I thought it was great when Hyperion decided to fuck with them by putting fucking Holocaust on the team, and he ended up deciding to be a team player.
>>78116269
I was really impressed with how they managed to make damn near every death in Exiles hurt. Even Namora's and Magick's made me sad.
>>78116307
Then hesnorted him like a particularly potent bump.
>>78116307
Not to mention that Holocaust's design is awesome. I liked him since I read Age of Apocalypse.
>>78116337
Aw, I felt bad for Magik... How did she die again? Got hit by the explosion from Gambit, right? Did any members of Weapon X survive that?
Who's death do you think hurt the worst?
>>78115351
The best marvel series of the last 15 years
>>78116361Sunfire's death never stops hurting
Reminder that to be Thunderbird is to suffer
>>78116386
You mean her retiring gracefully to go live happily forever with Spider-MJ on Legacy Planet, right? Because that's what happened. Right? Right? Guys...?
>>78116399
Very few Exiles really get a happy ending, but Thunderbird had the deck stacked against him from day 1.
I honestly don't feel like I have a good enough grasp on the MU for Exiles, and Winick is a turn off. I know it's supposed to be great. The concept is one I LOVE. Books with that late 90s/00s tone at Marvel don't work for me either
but I guess I'll get to it?
>>78116422
Right. Morph visits regularly. He's a godfather to their adopted children.
>>78116425
Honestly, he got a happy ending, just a horrible start. And a horrible middle. And a horrible backstory.
>>78116466
He had a lot of horrible going on.
What was his end? I know they found out that he wasn't dead, and he was having a kid with Nocturne. But last I saw of Nocturne she had a stroke or some shit.
>>78116361
Hyperion axed Magick I think, got tired of her switching sides.
>>78116461
Honestly, this was the first Marvel book I ever read, and it kind of taught me about the MU. It does a very good job explaining past "historical" events and character relations, plus how more obscure teams and characters like Alpha Flight fit into the grander Marvel universe.
Plus, if you're into that sorta thing, there's quite a bit of booty.
>>78116502
I believe they both retired to Heather's home world.
>>78116547
Oh, that's cool.
Her home world was fucking weird. Wasn't Logan quadriplegic?And Scott was evil?
And Kurt was even more of pirate than usual?
>>78116568
That was TJ's home world. I think aside from her being black and Alpha Flight being important, Heather's home world was fairly typical.
>>78116598
Shit, confused Nocturne and Heather by accident.
I really liked Sasquatch in Exiles, she was cool.Beak is still the best Exile
>>78116614
>tfw no mutant powers
>>78116641
>No mutant powers
>still malformed
Beak deserved better.
>>78116648
Eh, he has a hot non-race-specific wife and some cute kids. Plus the one that kept its x-gene. I don't think he minds looking a bit too much like Lyle Lovett.
Reminder than Blink can essentially beat Superman.
Or rather a Superman expy.
Did I mention she can beat a Superman expy?
>>78116788
Because she can.
>>78116793
>>78116788
The sand trick didn't last long, though. She beat him the first time with the help of Gambit and the other Exiles, the second time they had to bring in two more Hyperions.
So I'd say she can subdue him, but not really defeat him. Still, Blink is a bad ass either way.
>>78116806
>Two more Hyperions
>>78115877
>>78116926
Imperius Regina. All hail.R.I.P.
Mimic you shit you killed Bestfire
>>78116952
I bet he spent a lot of time feeling guilty about how well that worked out for him. Blink coming back was a huge plus.
Namora confirmed for best FF villain.
>>78117015
Killed every non-mutant superhero on her planet. What a bad-ass. Bet Namor feels emasculated.
>>78116009
Former vampire dude who wears a diving helmet and sends them to alt realities
>>78117284
This is sounding less and less like the Exiles as we go.
>>78115788
Mimic was the heart and soul of that team
>>78116847
That was rad as fuck.
That, and the kaiju world. And the interplanetary qar, and Wolverines, and Gambit's team, and a whole lot of other cool shit.
>>78117336
Was he ever not on the team before he died? I think him and Morph were both on the team start to end with no breaks. Well, he died before the end, but not much before it.
>>78117355
>Wolverines
Oh fuck I forgot about that
>>78117336
wat
Mimic was shit
Morph was heart and soul of the team
Mimic was always whining about how he wanted to go home and how no one measured up to their counterparts from his perfect world
>>78117489
I had this conversation with you yesterday
>>78117355
Interplanetary qar?
>>78117515
you did
i was trying to think of a different way to word it but couldn't come up with a better way to say it
>>78117544
Haha that's kind of funny. I made this thread because talking about it yesterday made me want to talk about it more.
>>78117588
They were really a great team
Even with the author changes they stayed constantly in character
I would love to see a new run or even a similar book. Seeing all the different universes and how they worked out was my favorite thing from the book.
>>78117588
Also as much as I didn't like Mimic I wasn't satisfied with his death.
I'd have much rather him selfishly leave the team after finding out their worlds weren't really in danger
>>78117738
His death seemed kind of like the writer didn't like him and wanted to just say fuck him. First the Deadpool thing, then drawing out his possession and death, then he died as a burn out, thin, gross ugly corpse.
>>78117529
War, sorry, posting from a phone. Butterfingers.
>>78117888
Oh, haha. That's kinda obvious, now I feel kinda dumb... Which one had them with interplanetary war? Closest I remember is the Skrull gladiator world. That one was awesome. Mimic taking The Captain out in five seconds, Galactus showing up, renegade Falcon and radio-inventing Reed...
>>78117704
The only time they didn't was when Claremont took over and that's when I stopped reading until Jeff Parker came in for the reboot. Shame Marvel told him he could either do Exiles or Agents of Atlas but not both, I get why he picked Agents and I don't blame him, but his short run was dang good.
Also, Exiles is the reason why Blink is my Marvel Waifu
>>78118305
Blink is best character
>>78117015
yes tell them your successful plan so that Namor can't use it no them
>>78117383
>Team: Pure Edge
>>78118731
She wasn't particularly impressed with Namor anyway.
>>78116806
Well considering Superman can't heal like that, I'd still say she can beat anyone on his level that doesn't have stupid good healing.
>>78115351
Exiles was great. Dark Avengers was a nice taste of the similar, too.
Marvel's strongest suit has always been 'What If's?', using AU's to really have fun messing with their mythology without having to worry about the state of canon afterwards.
Plus it lets writers get any issues they have with certain characters out of their system without ruining the character for his/her fans
>>78116260
worth mentioning said Peter was still just a teen and already a mass murderer
>>78119288
He probably killed Uncle Ben, too.
And refused to eat wheatcakes.
>>78116277
>Skrull Rogue.
She probably fucked a Skrull disguised as Gambit. Kill the Skrull, get nifty shapeshifting powers. I can't remember, was Gambit around in that reality?
>>78117920
The one with actual planets.
>>78119425
He wasn't.
>>78119450
Hilarious how Marvel Zombies ate Ego.
>>78119492
here's your (you)
>>78119457
>Skrull infiltrates X-Men
>kills Gambit
>takes his place
>one night Rogue is super horny
>despite "mah powahs will kill ya" gets it on with Skrull-Gambit
Boom, backstory.
I remember reading this somewhere, but is it true that when Claremont took over he could only use characters he created?
I just hate how the exiles weren't even mentioned during secret wars...
Also blink is best girl
>>78119618
I'd count that as a blessing. Could have gotten a mini written by Bendis, or whoever wrote that Years of Future Past crap.
>>78116304
I thought something happened that made Proteus *think* he was Morph, and the team was scared to death that the psychopathic reality warper would eventually remember his (its) true nature.
Its been a long time since reading, however.
>>78116780
dumbass could have vaporized her at a 1% setting of his eyebeams. instead fires a full-power blast that was way, way overkill at a person he knew had portal powers.
I really hate it when bad guys lose from being dumb. Especially when they were previously shown to be clever. Its lazy as hell writing, but in all fairness its rampant in western literature.
>>78119706
when has he ever been clever?
>>78115351
Yes, untill Chuck "the destroyer of all things X-Men" got ahold of them.
This is the most important reason I don't read ongoing comics anymore, with the other being DeFilips and Weir loosing New X-Men Vol 2.
Random people get established storylines, change everything into a comic book that doesn't even feel remotly the same and still get to keep the name.
It's like Fallout 3, only it happens all the time.
>>78116134
>>78119769
I don't remember all the issues of his but he definitely wrote Hyperion taking over one of the worlds and it wasn't too bad. Did he write anything else?
>>78119281
that was a fun arc
all the stories staring the Weapon X team were
Iron Doom is probably my favorite from the whole series
>>78115351
Nah.
It had something of a good run, but it was uneven at times, and it is good to be done with.
>>78117805
A lot of the deaths in Exiles seemed pointless.
Look, a new team member. Oh, she died. Well, we can always go to another dimension and replace her with someone just as good.
>>78119844
Austen wrote Exiles #26-30 and #38-45.
>>78115788
Illyana's descent into madness was pretty good. She put up a front to not show weakness to the team but she was freaking out the entire time. It's a shame they cut her out so quickly but Exiles have a massive death toll anyway.
>>78119653
It did. Then they came to an agreement and sorta merged.
>>78116361
Nah. Hyperion killed her for an experiment almost immediately when she "betrayed" the exiles to try and survive. She just wanted to go home.
>>78116780
Maybe a stupid as fuck Superman. Superman would use his fucking super speed to whoosh her away to a no-teleportation prison (plenty of villains can teleport so they exist) and bam, she's beaten. He then has a nice civil chat with her while she's rendered inert, realizes she's a good guy, then helps her save the day.
Superman doesn't lose, atleast not for good.
>>78119207
Superman does have a (minor) healing factor. It just almost never comes into play since damaging him is hard as hell.
I miss Sabretooth-295. What happened to him?
>>78117298
Change former vampire dude who wears a diving helmet to alien bugs that fucked the multiverse up and it's the same thing
>>78122151
The bugs were stupid. Timebroker was superior.
>>78121578
I thinkhe dead.
>>78122365
>Timebroker
>Not Timebreaker
I liked the bugs once they became just another part of the team, but it felt like they intended to go a different way up until the reveal. They built the Timebroker/breaker thing up to be this big insidious mystery, and then it's just a bit of a let down
Can't fault the bugs logic though. 'Oh shit we fucked things up. We'll gather together some of the best heroes from the multiverse to fix it!'
>>78121578
Didn't Hyperstorm jr. end him?
>>78122531
I thought something happened to him in that X-Treme X-Men series. The one with black Cyclops and gay Wolverine and Hercules.
>>78122531
The kid he tried to raise? No, he killed him, remember? Then he joined the Exiles. I think him and Psylocke were the only carry-overs to the new team with Sage, Kitty, Rogue, and that make Mystique.
>>78122922
Male, sorry.
>>78120748
Honestly, the evil Hyperion (as with so many other evil Hyperions before him) was dangerously (for himself) arrogant, overconfident, and dumb due to mental instability.
That's why they usually get beaten by the Good Hyperions, historically.
>>78115452
They've rebooted it with a bunch of Spider-Men now.
>>78122922
>male Mystique
Pic?
>>78123237
>>78123836
Huh, weird. Expected more blue. She looks a lot like Graydon Creed, I say.
>>78115351
world tour sucked
This reminds me, I still haven't read "Die by the Sword".
>>78119425
>>78119528
the skrull she killed was klrrt the super skrull. she absorbed his personality is why she was evil.
>>78115788
Sunfire, Nocturne, Morph, Namora, certainly not awful boring fuckhead Mimic.
>>78122922
absorbed by the crystal palace only morph got out.
then it's revealed that sabretooth somehow got home to the AOA when everyone the wall absorbed disappered
>>78118305
I thought the reason Exiles was cancelled was because Claremont fucked it up so bad he ruined the name? I remember Parker at the time talking about how the Exiles name was "toxic" which affected the sales.
>>78125460
you right clairmount made it so toxic they canceled parkers series after 6 issues
>>78125353
The Wall absorbed everyone?
Do you guys think the Timebreakers had more teams out there and they just kept them secret from the Exiles?
>>78127570
between new exiles and parkers series yes. morph called back the original exiles after the wall couldn't hold both him and proteus and proteus stayed in the crystal wall and morph got out. then morph blink and the team ran the teams.
>>78125460
>>78125571
what?
What happened? What did claremont do to it?
It still hurts
>>78129394
He made it suck.
>>78129419
It always will.
>>78129394
he basically made a kitty pride mary sue and psylocke who he upgraded into A LEVEL BEYOND MARY SUE the entire book.
the entire team was relegated to the background. the worlds in the new exiles were interesting but he fucked up the entire series till it resembled the comic equivalent of that not on meth this is the same chick on meth poster.
One thing that always bothered me about the Timebreakers was how, if there was a definite, conscious intelligence behind the Tallus, why was it barely ever straightforward with them? Like that first mission. The bugs could have just gone "no, Xavier will kill people, don't do that." The obvious explanation is that the bugs weren't conceived of at that time, but they never tried to come up with an explanation once the bugs were created.
>>78129660
shame really because V3 was kind of great
>>78130014
parkers run explained that while repairing the multiverse the reason why the multiverse was damaged and who was running the team was going to change
>>78130536
also the timebreakers aka the bugs were told only the vaguest instructions by a machine that was in the crystal palace what to do and who to collect.
>>78130536
What?
>>78130649
But once the Exiles were in the Panoptichron, they just viewed whatever info they needed, didn't they?
>>78119281
>Marvel's strongest suit has always been 'What If's?
That's why I'm one of the few who enjoyed 2015 Secret Wars
>>78122365
The bugs were hilarious and cute
>>78130778
the bugs were not the smartest they were not free thinkers but queen less drones unable to access the full potential of the palace's equipment.
jeff parkers run aka vol 3 explained in the last issue that the nature of the crystal palace and why the multiverse was damaged and who was running the team would change when they repaired enough realities.
>>78130927
Yeah, hilarious and cute isn't really the metric I use for major plot points in sci-fi action stories.
>>78131321
Hm. I've never read v2 or v3. Last thing I read, the team got trapped in the Hydra world ruled by Sue Storm and Wolverine.
>>78130875
What's bad about it is that for the last ten or so years, it's seemed like Marvel has been constantly deviating from their own established "mythos," so there's nothing to make elseworlds out of.
