Who can take down Superman without resorting to Kryptonite, Red Sun, or Magic?
Another Superman.
Goku
Son Gokuwith his guard up.
A real hero
>>78047862
>>78047863
It begins.You know superman did a universe punch in 2006, right?
it ain't even close, mate supes any day
>>78047901
Every time.
>>78047839
I don't think 'magic' should be listed like its exclusively a weakness of his.
>>78047925
makes me think of Kingdom Come supes, he was originally still weak to magic, yet at the end of the story, he realized the paradox of magic and stopped it from having power over him.
It's all in his head. Regular supes doesn't understand magic, or more so, he chooses not to understand it. Eventually he'll come to terms with it and be even more invincible.
>>78047925
He doesn't have weakness to magic more than any other man. He's just not immune to it.
>>78047839
Captain Atom
>>78047839
Zack Snyder.
>>78047839
his mom
>>78047839Lois
>>78047925
Given the context, it's suitable. He's certainly not invincible, but a lot of shit simply doesn't phase him. Even if magic only has the same effect on him that it does any other jagoff, it's capable of bringing the nigh-invincible man of steel to his knees.
I guess Darkseid could if it's just a match of brawns and strategies are not a factor.
>>78048061
are you kidding? Darkseid has never beaten him in a straight up fight. He's always used kyrptonite or a plot device.
New52, sure, darkseid is written to be more powerful, but the superman you think of when you hear the name, no way he goes down to darkseid in an even fight.
http://imgur.com/a/mstQS
http://imgur.com/a/3ylMq
http://imgur.com/a/YL8FR
http://imgur.com/a/JlIw2
>>78048061
https://www.reddit.com/r/CharacterRant/comments/3kp6bk/why_do_so_many_people_say_superman_doesnt_stand_a/
>>78048061
>>78048091
Thanos would beat the brakes off both of them tbqh
>>78048108
lol
Doomsday?
>>78048108
lulwut, the scrubber who routinely has trouble with the hulk? nice bait
>>78048125
Hasn't really been a threat since their first fight, ignoring a time when he was boosted by plot.
>>78048115
>>78048126
>solo'd a team of Superman killers
>wouldn't beat the shit out of the man himself
Hulk would beat Superman. But only on condition that Superman wouldn't take Hulk out instantly - otherwise all that he would do would only make Hulk more angry and stronger.
>>78048141
So Superman isn't permaboosted by plot?
We talking just DC?
Martian Manhunter
Guardians of the Universe
Anti-Monitor
Paralax
Spectre
>>78048154
Hulk has lost drawn out battles before.
>>78048147
> any of those holding a candle to the real deal
Supes would wipe the floor with them at the same time
>>78047839
Is superman vulnerable to poison? If so, literally anyone. If not, superman has too many powers.
>>78048154
hulk has never been that strong before. Supes would have to sleep for a day with hulk wailing on him before he got to a high enough level.
>>78048161
Yeah, but are we talking comparision of pure stats or are we talking story and plot wise? Coz if we do the other thing it all boils doen to "who writes the story" so it's kinda pointless.
>>78048166
> Is superman vulnerable to poison?
no
> superman has too many powers.
> missing the point of superman this hard
I can smell your dbz powerlevel fan wank from here
>>78048154
No he can't. Hulkfags need to understand that and stop being so pathetic, most people working at marvel feels the same.
>>78048167
That's the point. They would fight for a really long time untill hulk would get strong enough coz supes wouldn't be able to kill him
>>78048162
Supermanfags be crazy.
>>78048189
>hey would fight for a really long time untill hulk would get strong enough coz supes wouldn't be able to kill him
no they wouldn't. why on earth would superman wait that long? he'd knock him out straight away
>>78048189
That doesn't happen. Go away. I hate Hulkfags.
>>78048183
>hulkfags
>pathetic
Holy fuck, why so hostile, man? I dont give a fuck about Hulk actually, I enjoy Superman to some extent.
>>78048194
> missing the point of superman
> bringing him down to powerwank thread levels
Go back to /r/whowouldwin, faggot.
>>78047839
Physically, you never really will. But psychologically, you can. You simply have to kill enough humans. Destroying Earth would be even better. His weakness has always been how much he cares for us and this planet.
Remember that scene?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0pcChyV6o4
>>78047839
wonder woman probably can whoop super man ass
>>78048215
>the point of superman
Fuck off supesfag.
>>78048229
> throwing out all sense of character and purpose simply for a dbz power level thread
you're the reason films like man of steel exist
>>78048238
Yeah cause superman has NEVER EVER been hurt by anything EVER.
u knoe
>>78048250
>>78048160
>not mentioning Swamp Thing, Resurrection Man and Captain Atom
>>78048189
Superman does not kill, and no, Hulk doesnt get stronger the more he fights, he gets stronger the madder he gets. Hulk CAN be tired, is someone blows up your mom you wont get "more mad" if you misplace a pencil, Hulk always has a cealing to his power, a cealing that can be expanded from time to time (from exposure to radiation, from extreme cases of being pissed off, etc). It doesnt matter at the end, hulk base is too far from Superman base level.
>>78047915
It's starting to grow on me though, it's brilliant.
>>78048108
>tbqh
any points you might have had are now moot.
>>78048211
You are really new to this board if you don't know how sad Hulk threads are, even gokufags are better.
>>78048265
yeah its good shit. The fans need to go back to their cont/a/inment board though
>>78047839
>>78048276
I've been on/off co for 7 years, usually only hang in drawthreads thou. I just usually avoid shitthreads, whats the point in reading something that annoys you.
>>78048189
Hulk will just burn out like he did when fighting Sentry, but this time his opponent won't revert back too.
>>78048272
Like I care what some autist triggered by abbreviations thinks.
>>78048276
>even gokufags are better.
Yeah I find them similar. Both fan groups have trouble getting past either "hulk strongest their is" and "goku is a GOD now".
They're just words.
>>78047839
The real question is "which Superman?"
Because depending on which version of Superman you choose, his power varies somewhere between Krillin and Dr. Manhattan.
>>78047839
Goku can beat most of his incarnation except for two Superman . That's a serious answers.
>>78048326
>That's a serious answers
/a/fags, ladies and gents
can speak only enough English to vaguely convey their mindless fan rage
>>78048347
But it's the truth anon. I know you're mad but that doesn't give you the right to ridicule others.
>>78048326
related because goku, but I've been meaning to ask, why are so many goku fans either black americans or some indistinguishable filipino-thai esq islander type
They always rage the hardest too. Where does the admiration come from? Is the weeb to normie level different there?
>>78048369
>Allen Adam
>Tangent
>Prime
>One Million
>Superdoomsday
Would all wreck Goku though
doomsday?
alfred
lobo
Uchiha Madara. And I’m not talking about Edo Tensei Uchiha Madara. I’m not talking about Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara either. Hell, I’m not even talking about Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with his Gunbai, a perfect Susano’o, control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu.
Nemesis "1v1 me irl fgt" Kid
>>78048391
surprised it took this long to get posted. is the pasta finally dying off?
>>78048378
>Is the weeb to normie level different there?
DBZ is entry level tier and a lot of us are entry level.
>>78048378
it's about a monkey that eventually gets powerful to become a white guy
>>78047839
Saitama
>>78047905
Man of MURDERRRRRRRRRRRRR
>>78048215
Superman is not Saitama, shithead. He's clearly established to be a man who can do a lot, but has limitations nonetheless.
>>78049926
> i've never read a pre nu52 superman comic in my life, but here's my opinion anyway
Saitama
>>78047839
A lot of Dc people, seriously.
>>78050842
Name 5
>powerlevel thread
But seriously, without Morrison's meta-bullshit Supes ain't shit, any high herald with a bit of luck can take him and certainly every trans (not constrained by physical form) can wreck him.
>>78048108
BBQ all LGBT tbqh
>>78050185
>>78048385
Kek
>There are Superfags who unironically want Le Unbeatable Godman
Mongul
Donald Duck if he got angry enough.
jesus
>>78052941
Fictional characters only.
Pretty sure Captain Marvel could beat him.
>>78053068
Pretty sure this was answered in convergence, supes took him, abin sur and cyborg at the same time.
>>78048276
>even gokufags are better.
Nah, they are the exact same shit.
>>78048160
>Martian Jobhunter
>Jobbers of the Universe
>>78052995
Exactly
>>78053068
That would fall under magic, though.
>>78047901
Can Saitama beat Choice Scarf Dotto though?Can the Flash?
>>78047839
J'onn
>>78047839
During the late-70s and early-80s, all you needed was to have a glass-cannon villain with "atomic" or "nuclear" in their name.
>>78053141
That was captain thunder, not captain marvel vs post final crisis Superman.
Don't be stupid
>>78052995
dumpstered
Superboy Prime.
>>78047839
Hastur
>>78053661
>post final crisis
what the fuck does final crisis have to do with anything?
> That was captain thunder, not captain marve
exact same fucking character, if anything, thunder is more powerful than marvel
>>78047984
when you can take a billion points of electromagnetic damage and shrug it off, but a d4 magic missile can do as much damage to you as a mundane NPC, call it "just not immune" if you want, thats still a comparatively huge weakness.
>>78053764
no its nothing like that, that's completely retarded.
why does everyone think a shit tier wizard using magic to summon a fire ball and shoot it at superman that its gonna 1 hit KO him?
He routinely fights magic powered gods and people powered by them, and more often than not, he wins.
>>78047839
The Odinson
>>78047839HOi!
>>78053874
A magic sword can disembowel or decapitate him if the user has the speed to score a hit and the strength to chop up a regular dude, though.
>>78054247
>2015
>posting this
Nigger please.
>>78054247
Implying that the outcomes were not predetermined by Marvel and DC's editorials to protect their valuable IPs.
>>78054427
> implying that's not how its always going to be
face it, your precious little god is never going to beat him
>>78047901
>>78048265
>>78048280
Saitama is Superman though. Without the baggage of a contrived alien orphan backstory, or any of the other cumbersome 'depth' Supes has ended up shouldering over the years. He's just an average guy, who can just happen to KO a god in one hit.
>>78047839
Without counting abstracts or Gods, DC superheroes that can defeat supes:
Captain Atom
Captain Marvel
Martian Manhunter
Dr Fate
Mr Majestic
>>78050185
>I've never read a pre nu52 superman comic in my life
Pre new 52 superman is actually weaker than New 52 Superman. You mean Pre-Crisis, you fucking casual.
>>78050864
Shazam
Captain Atom
Swamp Thing
Animal Man
Martian Manhunter
Barry Allen
Wally West
Doomsday
Brainiac
Darkseid
Mr. Mxyzptlk
Black Alice
Lucifer
The Endless (Dream, Death, etc)
Nekron
Alexander Luthor (Earth 3)
Parallex Hal Jordan (feel like it could go either way even without Parallex, given the bullshit he's fought, shielding against Wondy's blows, ability to synthesize kryptonite with the ring, and the casual planet buster feats)
Ion Kyle Rayner
Black Adam
Wonder Woman (depends on the writer, but Parasite said she was stronger)
Supergirl (also depends on the writer)
Dr. Fate
Apollo
Zod
Eobard Thawne
Hunter Zolomon
Atlas
Anti-Monitor
Solomon Grundy
Trigon
Shaggy Man
Wraith
H-el
Spectre
Cyborg Superman
Lobo
Sadam Yat
>>78047987
And David Goyer.
>>78054247
This is bullshit and is the worst part of the crossover.
>>78054552
this. you can pretty much apply it to goku too, to a degree
>>78054665
> this makes me upset therefore didn't happen and is bullshit
you sound like a dbz tard
>>78054468
The question isn't would he 10/10 curbstomp. It's who CAN take him down.
lulwut almost anyone can if superman stands there and just takes it.
Why are you implying thor or marvel or anyone similar is any different from you and me with kryptonite and a distraction?
Supes isn't going to give them the chance
>>78054767
meant for >>78054724
Does any other character conjure up this many versus threads?
Superman is the ultimate. Even if you can come up with some characters that could feasibly fight him, in everyone's mind and heart Superman is just that fucking guy. Let that go and think of more interesting questions.
>>78054825
this so much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgU45g8qAwQ
>>78054687
>Superman has a weakness against magic
>can stop a magical hammer wielded by a god with his hands
Soups shoulda been out of the fight when Thor hit em out of the sky with the hammer. You're clearly biased, and you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
>>78054866
>You're clearly biased
says the guy arguing whats literally in the comics
>epic meems friendo
>>78047839
Tryhard and typical answer, but this guy really could just roll Superman.
>>78054665
butthurt dbz babby detected. Goku still can't beat Supes btw ;^)
>>78054893
You got me. Clearly you don't have to argue feats and weaknesses when you can just say "memes".
>>78054905
i'd be fine with, and probably enjoy a lot more manga/anime if every single fucking character wasn't a teen with edgy clothing and an angry face
>>78054908
>points out that a panel is bullshit and goes against the basic lore of the characters involved
>butthurt, dbz, goku
You Superman faggots are really retarded.
>>78054941
> implying you didn't do the exact same thing with 'bullshit'
define: hypocrisy
>>78054997
It was bullshit. Superman is weak against magic. Thor's hammer is magical.
Do the math retard.
>>78054988
>goes against the basic lore of the characters involved
the basic lore is that superman is stronger than thor, even with the magic.
Stop jerking it so hard
>>78054966
You probably wouldn't.
If you seriously believe that every single animu character is teen and wears edgy clothing you're clearly more about inventing imaginary problems for stuff than disliking the ones that actually exist.
>>78055026
that's the impression i've picked up from both this place and friends that watch/read it.
>>78055024
>the basic lore is that superman is stronger than thor
Not at the time the comic was published. This was before they started all the "we're like the silver age now" wankery in DC.
>this fucking Supes v Thor argument again
It doesn't fucking matter. Supes literally says right after their battle that Thor was the toughest fight he'd ever had and it could have gone either way, he was just lucky. They're officially as strong as each other, Supes just won for out-of-narrative reasons.
Calm your tits nerds.
>>78055044
Your impression doesn't really make you any less objectively wrong. If you think Spike or The Major or Tenma are edgy teenagers you have legit brain problems.
>>78054665
>>78054427
>>78054893
>>78054866
That was madeby BUSIEK. Literally the AVENGERS writter.
The guy that turned THOR into THE heavy hitter of marvel after 2 decades of sucking Hulk's dick.
The whole point of the crossover was how different things were, from DC's earth being bigger to the avengers thinking the League were dictators that acted like gods, magic being stronger in DC, science being more advanced at marvel. The speedsters at marvel being, well, pretty much nothing of note (5 out of 7 leaguers being faster than quicksilver).
The Spinal tap line about the 9 worlds was pretty simple: Superman may use the same space as a heavy hitter in marvel, but he is in a whole other tier.
>>78055137
> That was madeby BUSIEK.
wait really? Holy shit! THOR FANS BTFO
>>78055137
Doesn't matter. They literally ignored Superman's weakness. It was shit writing.
>>78055196
i can smell your powerlevel buttmad from here.
don't you have a whowouldwin reddit thread to post in?
>>78055229
> hurr durr reddit
You know I'm right. Meme harder.
>>78055196
Fuck off back to your vs forums, faggot. No one cares.
Dunno if she'd win, but it would be a neat fight.
Also a neat post-fight chillout.
>>78055196
not everything can come down to feats and powerlevels mate, sometimes you have to take the essence of character and purpose into account
you're also posting a like a fucking dbz fanboy and you should consider stopping
>>78055196
Superman is vulnerable to magic, not weak.
Vulnerable as vulnerable as HULK is to magic.
It means his Bioaura does not gives him total protection, he is still superman.
If thor had trown the hammer superman would had failed to stop it, be he didnt, Superman can be cut by a magical sword with the power to cut. He caN BE SMASHED by a hammer with the power to smash, not by a hammer created by a spell.
>>78048160
I would say Captain Comet and Lobo as well.
If you go into the magic related characters then you run into magical tanks like Etrigan, Capt. Marvel, and Swamp Thing
>>78055312
You must suck a lot of cocks daily, faggot.
>>78055196
2) It's not a weakness though retard, Thor's lightning isn't special so that it harms anyone, it just calls down strong ass lightning, which for Superman is nothing. Nor is Mjonilr enchanted to smash anything, it's enchanted to be unable to be picked up by the unworthy (including Superman).
2) Thor doesn't use magic, he's not a mystical god, he's a brute force god. He calls down lightning naturally because it's his god power to control thunder/lightning, like Posiden can control water, which means yes, Thor can deal the most intense lightning around, but it's not any worse than something that naturally occurs
How can you not understand that Superman is vulnerable rather than weak to magic
>Spell that summons a lightning bolt down on a target
Nothing will happen to Supes because lightning isn't shit to him
>Spell that creates fire that will burn anything
Will burn Superman because he is afforded no EXTRA protection against magic.
If your magic isn't powerful enough to
>>78054665
actually the worst part of the crossover was Lobo losing to Wolverine.
>Lobo can fight Superman to a standstill
>Superman can beat Thor
>Thor easily trumps wolverine
>Wolverine beats Lobo off panel
>Marvel actually reconed it so Lobo threw the fight and was payed off by Professor X
>>78055365
The guy you're arguing is being a mong, but Superman's deal with magic is really inconsistent.
Sometimes magical blasts slough off him like smoke, sometimes enchanted playing cards cut him up like a bitch. It's notable, too, that SHAZAM! hurts him a lot, and SHAZAM! isn't "enchanted to burn anything thunderbolts", it's just a magic thunderbolt.
>>78055409
Thor's hammer is enchanted to smash. And the lightning it creates is magical.
You fucking Superfags are so delusional and biased it disgusts me.
>>78054866
In any Marvel/DC crossover the differences between the magic and science in each universe is retarded.
Hell Darkseid has even gotten the infinity gauntlet in the once and it was useless so he tossed it
>>78055458
Different crossover pal.
>>78055498
>Thor's hammer is enchanted to smash
no its fucking not.
> found the guy who doesnt read thor
the power comes from thor, the hammer is just very durable so thor can hit really hard with it.
>>78055513
>Hell Darkseid has even gotten the infinity gauntlet in the once and it was useless so he tossed it
Nothing really inconsistent there.
The infinity gauntlet only affects it's universe of origin. Even if it was taken to another alternate Marvel universe it wouldn't work.
>>78055513
The guantlet only works in his respective universe
Jesus Thor vs Superman again, seriously? When in Marvel you have - the first that come to mind as to who can beat Clark - freaking Genis Vell, Surfer or Sentry.
But of course you have to let your autism spill don't you?
>>78055458
Different crossovers:
Marvel vs DC was by vote
JLA/Avengers was not and was considered canon.
>>78055481
>it's just a magic thunderbolt
Is not. is PURE magic in thunderbolt form, not electricity, not plasma as thor's
>>78048264
It's been repeatedly said that hulk upper limits are unknown
>>78055581
Actually, nigga, he's right. Thor's hammer is literally enchanted to smack things around better, among other things.
>>78048108
Yeah that avreviation is dumb but his point remains valid you dumb shit
>>78055717
>canon
More like "canon?". In one universe it never happened, and in the other it might have happened.
>>78055760
It's not.
It0s enchanted to:
Give Thor's like powers to anyone worthy
Not being abble to be lift by anyone that is not worthy
Always find his way back to Thor's hands as long as he is worthy
Create wormholes for travel
That's all. It's made from URU, so is not even enchanted to be durable, is just that uru is really really hard.
Okay, so, this argument is irrelevant as both characters admit later that a fight between them could easily go either way and they're essentially equal, but:
1. Thor's lightning is not, in fact, standard lightning pulled together by magic. Not in most writings of the character. It doesn't act like real lightning, it acts like 'storybook' lightning, because that's essentially what it is - the idea of lightning.
2. Mjolnir is indeed a force multiplier. It's not just durable.
3. None of this matters, as Thor can shoot bolts of pure magic anyway.
4. None of this matters, as read the beginning of my post.
>>78055866
> you're all wrong but me and here's reasons without any source/proof
>>78055760
No, it's enchanted to not break and gives you the strength to smash good if you're worthy.
>>78055915
>>78055389
>>78055229
>>78055168
>>78054997
>>78054893
Jesus this is cringy as fuck with all the reaction pics. Not saying the other anons are right, but are you underage?
>>78055848
Forgot the godblast
I'd love to see Superman and Orion in a big fight.
>>78055848
"Mjolnir can be used both offensively and defensively.
Described as impacting with sufficient force to "destroy mountains," with primarily adamantium and vibranium proving too impervious. Other offensive capabilities include creating vortices and forcefields (capable of containing an explosion that could potentially destroy a galaxy); emitting mystical blasts of energy; controlling electromagnetism; molecular manipulation; and generating the Geo-Blast (an energy wave that taps a planet's gravitational force), Anti-Force (energy created to counter-act another force), the thermo-blast which can even challenge such beings as Ego the living planet, and god Blast (a blast that taps into Thor's life force). The hammer can travel through planets to return to Thor. It can even create antimatter particles and whirling it round can create wind powerful enough to lift the Taj Mahal.
There are also other several rarely used abilities. Mjolnir can track a person and mystical items; absorb energy, such as draining the Asgardian powers of the Wrecking Crew into the Wrecker; or detect illusions, as Thor once commanded the hammer to strike the demonic Mephisto, who was hiding amongst false images of himself. As a former religious relic, Mjolnir is lethal to the undead, causing creatures such as vampires to burst into flame and crumble to dust. Mjolnir also can project images, as Thor shows a glimpse of Asgard to fellow Avenger Iron Man. It is near-indestructible, surviving bullets, Anti-matter, and the Melter's melting beam."
>>78055975
> cries that people are using reaction images on an image posting message board
mate what? have you forgotten what tab you've opened, cause this isn't reddit
>>78055930
Except it's often described as striking with immense force beyond just Thor's own strength.
And you're forgetting a whole heap of other enchantments, there are tons. The sheer number of things Mjolnir has done over the years is hilarious.
>>78047839
No one.
That's because Superman is the most boring hero in comic book history and lost relevancy 70 years ago.
And when it come to in his own universe, kryptonite isn't really a weakness of his. He beats people using it (and some literally made out of it) by powering through it.
Magic isn't a weakness either, he's just not completely invulnerable to it.
>inb4 buttmad Supesfags like "u never read a sooperman comic" instead of coming up with a reason why he's a good characterprotip: he's not
>>78056072
still mad that goku lost? you're gonna have to let that one go, friendo.
>>78056020
Thor fan here but laughed at "survived bullets".
>>78054641
Parasite was referring to Rao.
>>78048147
The Galaxy's mightiest heroes and Ronan
>>78056024
>le reddit meme
>le oriental origami forum
Now this is cancer
>>78056281
Nova just wanted Ronan there cuz they're pals.
>>78047839
This guy.
>>78047839
Batman with prep.
>>78047863
What about when his guard's down?
>>78054402
Depending on the enchantments on the sword, yes. A sword enchanted to talk, say, wouldn't do anything like that.
>>78056740
Point is that magic works on Soups like it would on an ordinary man.
A wizard can cast a spell to turn him into a common toad and step on him.
>>78047905
Except that wasn't superman.
>>78056148
I like Dragonball Z but I never thought Goku could beat Superman.
>>78047839
>>78056807
really?
http://imgur.com/a/Wheyf
>>78055026
To be fair, the majority of animu characters are a bunch if edgy, OP and Gary Stu looking mother fuckers who constantly win through bullshit and asspulls. Not even Batman's plot armored ass has shown the level of bullshit that some special snowflake teenager in an anime pulls off.
>>78047839
Orion
Mister Miracle
Martian Manhunter
The Spectre
Flex Mentallo
>>78055249
This,are you Yaweh? No? then he wins.Ok maybe if youre Michael too,but he doesnt seem sharp enough to win vs Luci even if hes on par power wise.
>>78056020
And those are habilities of the hammer, not enchantments. It's just a collection of info from retards in a wikia. Mjolnir is not enchanted to smash stuff, so if thor tries to hit with it, and someone is stronger than thor it can be stopped.
>>78056965
>really?
Yes, really.
>>78056973
The majority of animu characters are cute grills.
>>78057187
The abilities come from the enchantments, stupid.
And those feats are all canon.
>>78057245
> posting silver age
Well, anyone strong enough to give Supes blunt force trauma. Not even HE is immune to that, you just have to hit him on the head really, really hard.
>>78055257
You are right, supes is allowed to break the planet killing everyone to win it but all of Gokus personality quirks are kept in as weaknesses.
>>78055344
But it only took the essence of one character and left the others out to create a win condition.
Thats why people say its bullshit, and those people are objectively right no matter who wants to troll otherwise.
Not saying it means one or the other wins, just the video while fun was objectively bullshit of the highest caliber and its plain as day to see.
I can't take any of these threads seriously, because I can't help compare all of you people to this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9tEJgyLEs8
Thor fags especially.
>>78047948
>using a non canon sequel to what is already a else world story anyways
Kingdom come ends with Kingdom come, atleast in Alex Ross & Waid's mind. That's clearly not how DC magic works either.
To answer your question op, Flash could probably throw him into the speed force like he did SB prime. Parallax Hal kicked his ass ez, I imagined any ring bearer with an entity in them could. White Lantern Kyle probably could have as well. Anti Monitor could, New 52 Darkseid seemingly can. H'el did, Hellspont as well. New 52 J'onn, there's lots of people that can.
>>78057383
>Thor fags especially
Keep crying bitchboi.
>>78057472
>using a non canon sequel to what is already a else world story anyways
it was in the novelization of KC, but its a moot point either way, I was just remarking on the character, don't get your panties in a bunch.
>>78057245
Can I submit this to Miyamoto Musashi?
>>78058150
please do
>>78047839
Icon, Captain Marvel, Wonder Woman, Plastic Man.
>>78047905
Noone will react because 12-year olds don't visit /co/that often
>>78058234
how do I send it?
>>78048306
Well, the Hulk does theoretically have no upper limit on his strength, but it isn't like that would ever come up.
>>78058328
not a clue
>>78058434
just remember no upper limit =/= unlimited strength. i hate that shit so much
Not the only or most accurate answer, but the best most entertaining answer imo.
>>78058471
>unlimited doesn't mean unlimited
Whut? Provided he can stay alive and agry his strength is infinite
>>78058493
no, its not, it'll only last until he gets exhausted or overpowered faster than he can 'power up'
>>78058517
Dude Hulk is retarded now, he has a Wolverine tier healing factor, I doubt he can get tired,
>>78047839
saitama maybe?
>>78058499
There's nothing fitting there. Anywho, feel free to take the matter in your hands fellow Anons. Maybe someone who has Twitter can send it.
doomsday
>>78047839
Anyone with a time machine and a spaceship. Just need to make sure he lands on a planet without a yellow sun.
>>78058613
Or just redirect the ship's trajectory towards the heart of a Red Sun.
>>78057423
>tfw this is one of the few times Doc has been posted in one of these threads where he actually could beat the character
>>78058713
Well, I was going for something a little less lethal than murdering a cartoon baby but I guess you could just blow up his rocketship anywhere but a system with a yellow sun in it and that would be pretty final.
>>78047839
Literally anyone with strong enough electricity powers. Captain Marvel kicked his ass in Kingdom Come by converting back and forth from Billy Batson because the lightning kept hitting him.
>>78059249
Or now that I think about it that would be pretty lethal because he's a baby and if he's trapped out in open space, he can't breathe regardless of what color the sun is. He'd be one invulnerable dead baby.
>>78059277
It wasn't just ordinary lightning though. It was the power of SHAZAM!
>>78059277
>Cap is magic you pleb
>>78047839
Batman could. He canonically has a plan to deal with Superman if necessary, and there's no way it's something as simple as Kryptonite or a red light bulb, because other people have tried that before and Superman is still alive.
Anyone, if the writer is on their side.
>>78047839
easy answer
>>78054641
>Supergirl
wait, supergirl is stronger than superman?!
>>78047839
>pic related
Superman can't graze, any tuhu could beat him clearly!
>>78064315
>she is a sister to fire
>that means she's immune to heat
I will never understand how gods work in comics
420 graze it.
>>78065095
>any tuhu could beat him clearly!
Don't even bring in 2hus, that's just not fair.
Lord Boros
>>78054865
Who did he just lobotomize?Please don't tell me it's Terry
>>78066138
Don't worry, he's not lobotomized.He's dead.
>>78055020
Wrong. Asgard is a super advanced alien civilization, NOT magical. See Earth X. Pleb
>>78055646
>>78055594
But that means that the laws of reality that govern the Marvel universe don't apply to DC, so any attempts to compare are desperate fanboys jerking each other off [via joy or anger] and desperately drinking each others cum instead of creating new rich and beautiful worlds of their own.
>>78066841
Really? Was that a retcon or something?
Wow, I guess I learned something new today.
So then what about Olympus? Is that advanced alien tech too?
>>78048378
The weeb to normie level in the Philippines? Yeah, I think?
>>78047839
Hulk considering he's just a green Doomsday that maybe is more powerful.
Sentry
>>78066841
Earth X ain't canon. 616 Asgard is all magic, brah.
>>78048264
Hulk got jobbed by Deadpool.
>>78055080
Why didn't this shit debate end here?
>>78065095
>>78065265
>Wielding unexplainable phenomena
>Manipulation of boundaries
>Manipulation of death, Manipulation of departed souls
>Eating/Creating history
Some of these powers, I swear.
>>78047839
Hal
>>78054552
This, people don't get that Saitama is a parody of the "Hurr Supes is too OP".
>>78047839
trick him into weakening himself by lowering his will/belief
then shoot him.
though that didn't work well in flashpoint