/co/, you've made your opinions on Homestuck abundantly clear. But what do you think of Problem Sleuth?
>>77929009
i thought it was alright for what it was
problem sleuth is great. not too long, entertaining, and everything paid off in the end. generally a satisfying read.
>>77929076
This
The main problem with Homestuck is that it took everything that made Problem Sleuth fun and did it in way too excessive amounts and then threw in a bunch of bullshit on top of it.
But PS itself was a good balance of silliness and needlessly complex bullshit
>>77929009
one of the best payoffs in comics ive read thus far. everything comes full circle in a much less ham fisted way than homestuck. also back when i first read it the tie in to prison break killedit.
>>77929009
if hussie doesnt curl into the foetal position and cry for eternity after hiveswap is done and homestuck wraps up, i hope he goes back to something just like this.
I still believe that old Hussie will emerge and save Homestuck for good.
http://www.parsecproductions.net/music/ProblemSleuth.mp3
http://www.parsecproductions.net/music/Sepulchritude.mp3
Any other songs besides these two?
>>77929692
It's far beyond saving at this point. The only way he could redeem himself is making something new
>>77929997
I'm amazed that Mark Hadley's done songs for Kid Radd, Problem Sleuth, Homestuck, and created Slender. Everything's coming together.
Some days I sit and I think about how awful it would have been if Problem Sleuth had kept on going, how it would have suffered the same slings Homestuck did over time.
>>77929009
A modern masterpiece
>>77930650
It already has transsexual characters, it would have been perfect for Tumblr.
>>77930769
Imagine the debates over the "Hysteria" meters, if only for a few years.
PS was the bomb.
>>77930065
like the homestuck adventure game?
>>77929009
Okay, not his best work though
>>77931702
Hiveswap is so fucked. Just look at some of these LinkedIn profiles, it seems like some employees don't work at What Pumkin anymore:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jesshaskins
https://www.linkedin.com/in/anthony-paul-albino-b5762b31
https://www.linkedin.com/in/allisonjanefrank
>>77931850
to quote a post from the mspa forums
according to linkedin the following members of the hiveswap team left in october/november:
creative director
senior art director
Lead animator
3D animator
Director of software enginering
Senior 3d Artist
Game Designer
naritive designer
senior art director
director of operations
still working on hiveswap:
president
director of production
production coordinator
production artist
junior programer
>>77929400
>implying he won't just stand on a stump and off himself
>>77931890
Jesus Christ on a pogostick, what happened?!
I had a brief moment in a dream the other night where I fought Demon Mobster Kingpin, which is really weird because I haven't thought about PS in a long time.
Time to reread it I guess.
>>77932016
>>77931952
Worst case?
A shit load of drama
Best case?
It's done
My guess?
A mix of drama and the current crop of employees not keeping up with the schedule/burning outRather common in game dev
>>77929009
I think the biggest reason PS ended up being way better than homestuck is because it featured characters that were largely caricatures.
This allowed Huss to focus on the story without worrying much about characterization getting in the way.
>>77929076
>not too long
I don't understand this.
>entertaining
Sure. But not enough to keep me interested through the end. yet I did get to it. Still, it always has BARELY enough steam to keep the reader going.
>everything paid off in the end
I'm not sure.
The boss battle 300 panels long was really, really, really exhausting, and by the end of it I had forgotten many of the one-joke characters that reappeared.
I tried Homestuck, but it seemed the same.
>What's behind the door?
>100 panels later
>IT'S A LITTLE JOKE! Hey another door!
Oh lord.
I binged it all in one go by the way, because the first time I lost my "progress" halfway through and I was scared it would happen again. Maybe that's why I couldn't enjoy it.
Maybe that's not the way to read it.
The earlier stuff, with the room and the pumpkin, and that adventure in the swamp thing, THOSE are actually nice and have a not-insane length. I liked those.
Problem Sleuth cannot be considered "concise", "short and sweet". I won't allow it.
Even if Homestuck is a lumbering behemoth of chaos in comparison.
I usually just keep clicking through when the Weird Puzzle Shit got too thick, when it came to PS.
>>77931952
>>77932086
I can agree with this. I would describe PS as short and sweet only because I read Homestuck first, and that was back when we were barely halfway through Act 5.Back when I was an alcoholic posting my dick in HSG...
>>77931890
HOLY SHIT
HUSSIE ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>77932290
Alternatively, the horse obsession became too much to handle for the Hiveswap team
>>77929009
it's notable for realizing his vision for the series instead of making convoluted end game decisions based on baffling current-moment goals.
all through ps it seemed like he was telling the same story. i think he thrives on the audience input format. it wouldn't work anymore due to regular controversies about somebody else's comic.
the characters were clear and made sense. i think he should come up with a bunch of jokes and rethink his characterization for his next work. he started constantly re-deciding they're a joke, important, serious, or alarming, so the story started falling flat.
He's fine, you dingus. I sent him a cheer-up e-mail the other week, but I uh didn't get an answer... Huh.
>>77931890
So who were each of those people though? Like anyone we might know, or people who were shit.
>>77932355
Some of these fine young men and women.
>>77929009
Really fun! Very good. Needs to be gone through in two long binges, as it kinda loses itself in the middle for a while before it grabs ALL of that mess and makes fuckin' cake at the end.
Can we agree from HS and so many actual comics wasting your time on tumblr and/or social justice fucks with your creativity? Of course the site isnt a hivemind and same can be said from a few boards here, but I sense a pattern when writers go around that.
Who /whore/ here?
>>77931890
HAHAHAHAHA
>>77932607
>all those fat people
>that actual scene girl in sollux horns
hes literally hiring whoever he can get
>>77929009
I read all of it a couple years ago and seem to remember enjoying it, although I can barely remember anything about it besides the very beginning.
happy birthday roxy
>>77932931
he really should have ignored the race thing.
trying to placate the idea that you have a race quota will mess with your mind at best
>>77933119
It dawns on me that with Mituna being the personification of 4chan, Hussie thinks we're fucking retarded.
>>77933852
Mituna isn't retarded. He was a formerly a cool person that people enjoyed being around and then he suffered brain damage that turned him into a nonsensical, lewd, and insult spouting shadow of his former self that some people still manage to find a bit endearing. More specifically, Mituna is /co/.
>>77933852
is he really wrong
>>77933852
Mituna's actually one of the few Beforus trolls who is honestly a good person, even if he has a very crude sense of humor.
If you actually read his text it looks more like whatever happened to him gave him turrets syndrome and a speech impediment rather than made him a retard
>>77932931
Adding to, Jobs (i guess) once said of the iPhone if people were asked years ago a good (yet to be invented) way for traveling most could say about a flying car or a better airship when none would think a plane could be more convenient, because they don't think outside the box and neither knew what a plane was before existing (and 6 iPhone versions were created after your death, jokes on you!).
The influence from readers somehow reflect this; as trolls were introduced the comic attracted people with shallow potential to add something cool to story if given control (a reason PSX books didn't sell well), and fanventures/SBURB fanfics are now not more relevant than "davekat headcannon fic" or "meteor crew throwing garbage at jack noir in a printed page". If Homestuck could be once a plane of how webcomics are done right, by the last years it looks a 812424 words-long flying car.who ARADIA here
>>77929400
How much money did Homestuck make approximately?
>>77934490
-$4
>>77929009
Definitely a fun read. It stuck to it's thing and while it did drag a little bit long near the end it was still worth it.
>>77934490
A fair amount to my knowledge, though Hussie is already set for life even without the income from the comic, he owns the patent for some medical scanner technology or something that most hospitals use
>>77934669
I'm still betting on the game bankrupting him.
>>77932076
what pumpkin 2015=infinity ward 2010 confirmed?
>>77934684
I doubt it, he's one of those folks that has a steady income from doing nothing, he'd have to rack up a lot of debt for it to seriously cause him trouble, and while gaming companies aren't cheap, Hussie's either fairly good with money or has the luck of the damned when it comes to making money as he keeps falling ass backwards into profitable ventures as another anon put it
>>77934669
>Hussie is already set for life even without the income from the comic, he owns the patent for some medical scanner technology or something that most hospitals use
That's really impressive.
I love problem sleuth and i fucking hate HS. My guess is that Hussie saw that PS had all this crazy randomness that ultimately came together and then he tried to capture that. HS doesnt feel random, it just feels like an awful clusterfuck Like, deliberately designed to be fucktarded. Maybe its nostalgia, but because PS had such a normal premise that got so crazy it made me feel invested. When PS got frustrated at bullshit you also got mad. Hs just starts out with dimension hopping intentional confusion. No Hussie, I am getting off the bus. The first ride was great but that doesnt mean Im buying a ticket to tumblrville.
>>77934851
>has the luck of the damned
>Hussie sold his soul for dosh and popularity
>His infernal masters called to collect
>Photos steal bits of your soul
>All those selfies he asked for was him tricking tumblrites into paying his debt
>>77934910
Like it was said >>77934851, Hussie's either pretty good with money or one of those assholes that keeps bumbling into the right investments
>>77934910
that's actually his dad's patent, and we have no idea how much money he makes of it, or if he even gets money now that his dad's dead
>>77935080
Unless his dad had no will or gave it to someone else, it went to him, patent rights are hereditary
Actually does Hussie have siblings?
It might not have gone to him in that case
>>77935080
they can be passed down, but generally you can only collect $$$ for about 20 years anyway so i doubt he's still getting money
I don't know which country hes from but there's crazy death taxes in the US, I'd imagine it's similar elsewhere. If he couldn't afford to pay the government the taxes on the inheritance they take it. I'd imagine a patent like that would be valued at quite a lot.
>>77929997
I remember this shit.
You're bringing back age old memories, anon
>>77929997
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArN_dERudNg
This one
>>77935144
he does, his brother Byron
>>77934965
>HS doesnt feel random
Because it isn't
>it just feels like an awful clusterfuck
By no means am I going to say that isn't a valid complaint, but it is that way by design. I'm honestly too lazy to dig up a link of a copy of his deleted formspring, but I know Hussie once said Homestuck was intentionally complex with stable time loops and nonlinear story progression because where as PS was a story about a puzzle, the original goal with HS was a story that was a puzzle. Where that stopped being the main goal is up to interpretation.
>>77935273
Andrew and Byron were part of the juggalo conspiracy.
>>77935336
It stopped being the case when most of the story got solved and it had to introduce new, shallower things to replace it.
Like what mysteries are really left in homestuck now
>>77935336
Well the inherent problem there is that HS took off on the crazy ship way too fucking fast before I ever got engaged with the character. How did it start again? He wanted to play some shit game? But then it quickly becomes "look how cuhraaazy this setting is, isnt it so wacky and convoluted?" Yes HS, you are convoluted. Goodbye.
>>77935360
isn't that andrew and kc green
>>77935381
The mystery of when we can get off Mr Hussie's Wild Ride
Honestly though, I agree. The Alpha kids were planned from the start, though I don't know how much of their story was planned back then. I'm certain Calliope and and Caliborn were imagined way back when as well, at least conceptually. Everything else about Act 6 has felt like it's a shift from what Hussie was teasing us with all those years ago on formspring.
>>77935421
I'm not sure how that's where you got lost. It's usually when the story starts jumping around in time three acts in that loses people, but you somehow got lost from "He wants to play a game" to "the setting is now the game he's playing."
>>77935486
Yeah, looking back a second set of kids were probably planned from fairly early on, Calliope and Caliborn seemed to be a later addition though, but I get the feeling that Hussie always wanted *Something* seriously evil for Lil'Cal to be involved in
>>77935486
>The Alpha kids were planned from the start
I doubt that, I think that idea started when Hussie came up with the Trolls and ectobiology. Though Act 3/4 is kinda part of the start at this point.
>>77935539
No, I can tell you that I got disengaged from the story just about when the mermaid troll got introduced. Being lost is part of the ride. I just didnt give a shit about the setting or the characters.
>>77935543
the first allusion to calliope and caliborn is when a puppet is shredded in a blender by dave and you see it be bright red and green pieces
I think it was a saw puppet too but I can't remember
>>77935543
I say Calliope and Caliborn being planned much earlier because their are tied together through symbolic theme of Ophiuchus. I can't say for certain, but I'm pretty sure I remember Hussie claiming that a 13th troll/character representing the unofficial 13th zodiac is accounted for, back in early 2011.
>>77935635
>I got disengaged from the story just about when the mermaid troll got introduced
Do you mean Feferi, the Condesce, or Meenah?
>>77935603
I'm not sure, there's a few things like the 8 player session graphic when Rose finds the meteor monitor that makes me think he intended stuff like that
>>77935642
I think that's just a coincidence, family.
>>77935691
bit weird to have it be red and green when the puppet wasn't even that colour
>>77935635
Fair enough.
>>77935656
I remember there was a female on and like a racist male one.
>>77935663
I'm sure he planned the concept of the alpha kids, but I'm also sure he didn't plan the details
>>77935642
Pretty much everything about Dave/Bro's apartment, and later Caliborn is based on this thread:
http://mspaforums.com/showthread.php?24118-Cheerfulbear-PLAY-ME
Most of the images are gone by now though, but basically there was an MSPA game where Hussie had to make puppet snuff to escape being tortured SAW style.
>>77935716
Feferi and Eridan than. Damn, you tuned out in Act 5 Act 1.
>>77935830
I was already getting pretty disinterested by the time the first trolls got introduced. It was like a peak into the void of the universe. I saw these kids and realized "These are going to be the secondary main characters who will probably end up having more depth than the human ones. Their alien-ness will give way to all sorts of wacky shit, and they themselves will have counterparts. One of them is probably a tiem traveler and all he while the human characters will become more like them" I dont know if any of that is true, but Im willing to bet Im closer to the truth than I care to know.
>>77935887
For a long time the idea was that the trolls were nothing like humans, their culture and ideals really weren't compatible but they could work together, and the kids ending up troll-like was a bad thing.
Now that's all out the window and everyone is gay.
>>77935931
If somebody doesnt mind, can they wrap up like, the gist of what happens in each act? I realize due to the nature of the thing its not going to be very coherent, but Im curious.
>>77935381
at this point the only suspense left is how the final battle will play out
im mostly interested in what calliopes alt self is gonna do and whether or not robojack is gonna be cool
i bet hell be superchill and befriend jake and add the considerable numbers of the felt to the childrens force
>>77935985
Since act 5? Thats a long ride
>>77936075
I just want to see if Hussie will fuck up the terrible relationships he's had
>>77935985
>Now that's all out the window and everyone is gay
I want this meme to end.By that I can't wait to see Davekat get sunk and see everyone's reactions.
>>77936141
>>77936228
>As a final fuck you to everyone Hussie pulls one last bit of bullshit out of his ass and sets all the pairings to what they first were regardless of character development or even if it should be logically possible
>>77931890
that this whole team consisted of bunch of lead senior art directors and only one programmer (jr)? am I the only one who sees why it was/is doomed from the start?
>>77936228
Davekat is life, it gives us hope in dark times.
>>77936279
Thanks doc
>>77936279
To the people who like the ship, sure. But for all intents and purposes it's basically the male Rosemary: two characters who had good dynamics as friends suddenly becomes a really banal and developmentally stagnant couple, that'll still be super popular within the fandom.
Do you suppose he just comes up with this stuff on a whim, because it certainly seems literally whimsical at this point.
A lot of it seems more appealing to me now that I am older, instead of what should have happened.
>>77936681
Hussie probably considers all the Dave and Karkat teasing, as well as the John and Terezi interaction, to be amusing to him, I just don't consider any of it is actually going be endgame material. And it's not that I don't have my preferred ships, I just consider Davekat and Rosemary to be massively overrated.
>>77929009
Best mspaint adventure
I hope one day the kids realize getting romantically involved with aliens is a bit weird. That being said, I want to fuck the Black Queen.
>>77937650
>everyone in the end hooks up with random characters from the new universe
>>77937765
>They're all immortal so it's more something they do to pass the time rather than any real relationship,
>In fact they've all ready been through every possible pairing among themselves and have transcended beyond mortal ideas of romance and now just get in a relationship with a mortal every now and then cause why the fuck not?
>>77937650
They should give in to their deeply suppressed incestuous desires, as the gods they are.
>>77937853
Are you trying to tell me that Zeus played sburb
>>77937912
I concur. Take a page from the trolls and engage in an incestuous slurry.
>>77938064
>>77938122
It's an expected result of being immortal and being sexually frustrated young adults. They've even already got the makings of a pantheon and a divine family, with bizarre origins and relations via ectobiology and shit. I don't think they'd be as dickish to mortals as Zeus and other polytheistic gods were, but they could potentially be the most incestuous.
>>77936634
>two characters who had good dynamics as friends suddenly becomes a really banal and developmentally stagnant couple, that'll still be super popular within the fandom.
Rose and kanaya really didn't have the best dynamics as just friends. Kanata wanted to bang her the whole time and rose was just using her to get information to help her rampage. Then she died and saw Kanaya and realized how gay she was. Compared to Dave and karat who did have a good friendship that turned into gay. Rose and kanayas never had that great a friendship because even though it took 2 years it was obvious that they were gonna get together when rose begged her to stay on the meteor.
>>77939834
I guess that's true, but that does make their popularity within the fandom even more inexplicable, like what is there to be invested in then? It's not like their interactions got much more focus after they got together.
>>77930769
It was a blessing that this finished before SJWs became more prevalent in Hussie's life, or else we'd be drowning in arguments to this day of what these fine ladies represent.
I wouldn't think too much of it.
>>77938122
If the A1 trolls never existed, Karkat and Nepeta would have been siblings.Same with Vriska and Tavros or Eridan.
>>77939834
>Rose and kanaya really didn't have the best dynamics as just friends.
What, no. Their dynamic was great.
The problem is they never got screentime as an actual couple outside Rose being drunk.
>>77931850
>>77931890
Holy shit. Does anyone have a full list of the employees linkedins or tumblrs? I wanna see what I can find.
>>77933027
You do know that scene girl is a Calart grad, right? Are you unaware of pukind?
>Go to local museum
>There's a college art section
>Somebody got what was basically a shrine to Sollux/The Psiionic in their own little glass case
I wasn't sure if I should be impressed, disappointed, or disgusted
>>77941811
here's their current tumblr whatpumpkinnyc.tumblr.com
here's what it looked like thanks to the wayback machine https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://whatpumpkinnyc.tumblr.com
pretty much any post relating to employees or the building they worked at has been purged.
>>77934684
He's from old money new england, so it's doubtful.
>>77935381
What do you expect
Homestuck is the LOST of webcomics
And just like LOST, by the last season all the characterization died and fun mysteries were pretty much over when it was clear they were just dragging it out
>>77931952
This. The studio put in charge took the money and ran.
http://rafr.tumblr.com/post/123244412225/the-odd-gentlemen-robbed-us
>>77942845
wow, I give absolutely zero shits about Homestuck but that is dirty.
>>77942845
Holy fuck that's disgusting, fuck those guys.
>Tavros will never bully Vriska back and kill her
>Tavros will never bully Karkat and steal his leadership role (implying bullying Karkat isn't easy as fuck)
>Tavros will never save Homestuck
>>77942845
I feel bad for everyone involved, except the odd gentlemen of course. The game they made with the stolen money even has good reviews. Fuck them.
>>77943465
>Tavros will never amputate Kanaya while she sleeps.
>>77942845
Jesus christ i never expected anything from the game but shit. How many people donated to it? didn't some one donate like $10,000?
>>77943894
>Tavros returns the favor by amputating Kanaya's cute girly penis and giving her a new, metal penis
>>77943995
>>77943894
Didn't he ask Kanaya to amputate his legs?
Also
>Tavros will never roleplay with Terezi's dead body
>sexually
>>77944116
Nope. Equius made robo legs for him, and I think Vriska was just sick of him being a cripple.
>>77937912
You mean your incestuous desires, childpile. They will not and will never become your fantasy greek pantheon, and there's nothing you can do to change that.
Annnnnddddddddd it's a Homestuck thread.
>>77945498
Hey, Problem Sleuth was in Homestuck once.
I'm the opposite of most people here. PS just went too far off the rails for me to enjoy as much as HS.
>>77935381
How Maplehoof is tiny in the alpha timeline and what will Sawhoo/Zillywave and Casey do in the final battle... Yeah, nothing so interesting to discover now.
>>77942845
Holy shit, I haven't given a shit about Homestuck since like 2012, but that's ridiculous. What the fuck.
>>77942845
Wait, but that happened long before October/November. The Odd Gentlemen robbing What Pumpkin likely had nothing to do with two thirds of the team leaving in the space of the last two months.
>>77945858
>How Maplehoof is tiny in the alpha timeline
Vriska eating the Homestuck cast confirmed.
We vore now.
>>77942845
that was last year
the wp guys leaving was this year
>>77943465
>>77943894
>>77943995
>>77944116
is this a new memeit's actually pretty funny for some reason
A question about Homestuck.
I read part of it years back and very early on I started skimming all the text because it seemed as if it was completely nonsensical and I wasn't actually meant to be read.
Was I wrong in thinking this?
>>77946500
Yes, text is the most important part of it
Youll start seeing things without context because you skipped the text
>>77946500
The narration and conversations are very relevant to the story, even when they seem not to be. If you read carefully, but things still don't make sense, it's likely they'll make sense later.
>>77942845
>>77931890
>>77945920
so hiveswap has gotten rekt for a second time now?
and this is only 'hiveswap part 1' out of 4-6. how are they gone finish the rest of the parts without 2/3rds of the dev team?
>>77946967
Well, if the first game comes out and proves to be decent, they might actually earn some money back.
It could also help them hire team members who could actually contribute to the project, instead of being the third concept artist or the assistant special effects coordinator or whatever kind of job a small indie studio with limited budget has no use for.
>>77946397
Nah, Homestuck would be improved if Tavros was the main character all along.
>Tavros wins the Terezibowl
>Tavros kills Lord English
>Tavros' horns become two new universes
>>77947974
>all these people putting the hiveswap fiasco's blame squarely on TOG
maybe hussie shouldn't have given a lump sum of like 700 grand
maybe he shouldn't have gone to a developer that has a history of delivering trash
maybe he should have tried a bit harder to check progress instead of somehow pissing away most of a year
maybe he shouldn't have pretended he could make a game in the first place
>>77948814
MAYBE HE SHOULD FINISH THE FUCKING COMIC
>>77948849
YEAH
MAYBE HE SHOULD
>>77945271
Well even you have to admit it'd be a better outcome than having Davekat and Rosemary be bland endgame ships.
>>77948867
YEAH LET'S GET HIM
>>77949007
#BUSTTHEHUSS
>>77948849
>>77948867
Which he's doing right now?
What isn't a problem: Hussie putting the comic on hiatus
What is actually a problem: Hussie's radio silence during hiatuses, instead of giving his readers information as to how the game or comic is going.
>>77949033
The comic would be over years ago if it weren't for the game
>>77941341
What I mean was it wasn't healthy or equal. It was hilarious but not very equal between them
>>77949175
That's why that first giant pause before the end of Act 5 wasn't so bad, he at least kept in touch.
>>77949033
nah hes probably trying to salvage the game again rn
do you remember anons? or have you tried to hide it?
>>77949175
I feel bad for Hussie but I swear the man doesn't understand the concept of biting off more than he could chew.
>Homestuck has over 700,000 pages
>it would take the average human 3 years to read through it from start to finish
So we can all agree AIDS is Hussie's greatest work?
What could have been...
So hypothetical that hussie just leaves
Could you really blame the guy for it?
Clearly everything is going wrong, and he is in over his head
>>77949550
>Could you really blame the guy for it?
yes you retard
no one forced him to make a game
So over under on the conic finishing 4/13?
>>77949311
There was even a progress bar for Cascade! Just even this kind of stupid shit would have been enough.
Seriously. Imagine going through the Gigapause with a little blue bar that filled a little each day.
Even if reaches 100% at one point and grow ten additional empty little blue bars, Problem Sleuth final battle style.
That's like the bare minimum when you can't be assed to keep in touch with your userbase. And it would have worked.
>>77949484
Bullshit i reread in less then a week last month
>>77949704
reminded me of that one bowman video that is now unlisted and unrateable now? I think some other of his videos are now too... And only since underrtale came out...
hmmm...
anyway here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFJUa31fVHw&feature=youtu.be
>>77949382
>donate please, it needs more money
>I blame 4chan!
>where are bathrooms for every gender
>we made friends its all that matters
Every time.
>>77949756
>lil cal pops up
>"I'm lord english"!
>'could it be that simple?'
this was 2011, the only way that line could have been drawn was if people theorized that doc scratch was lord english incarnate, because lil cal was part scratch.
this is fucking insane, this was a clue and we all missed it
>>77949175
There should be a news post about it this month at least.
>>77949323
What is there to salvage? From a quick glance at the LinkedIn profiles it looks like they already had most of the stuff done and is probably on the later development stages at the moment.
>>77949756
Maybe he didn't want Undertale fans to find RADIATION IS NOW ON YOUTUBE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA9uy3KdeEU
>>77950042
>how relevant
>how new!
>BUY IT
bowman knew about undertale all along
>>77950042
i noticed radiations old sbahj dubs are unlisted too
>>77946174
>that one comic with Vriska wanting to swallow a small-sized Karkat
>he rants about even more fucked-up fetishes than being swallowed
>Vriska telling Karkat he is a disgusting pervert and eats him anyway
I dunno why I found that funny.
>>77932079
PS also remained driven purely by reader submissions too, where as early on, Homestuck was changed to be pushed forward by Hussie alone.
At least I'm pretty sure that's what happened.
>>77950432
no you're right, homestuck stopped using suggestions completely after the early acts
>>77949413
His ambition is his Achilles heel.
>>77950432
>>77950463
You say that now, but consider Homestuck's eventual audience. Do you REALLY want the same people wetting themselves over Davekat to be making suggestions and driving the comic?
>>77951579
When taking suggestions for Homestuck, Hussie always picked his favorite one from dozens to hundreds of posts.
One of the reason he's stopped taking suggestions is that, with so many people in the fanbase, he'd basically be able to find the exact suggestion to continue the story the way he had in mind, no matter what.
So a couple thousands inane suggestions from the worst fans wouldn't matter in the end. He'd always have hundreds of decent enough ones, and a couple to fit his plans to a T.
>>77951579
you know that's more or less what happened anyway, right?
Is it wrong for me to like Homestuck's MeGaLoVania more than Undertale's?
>>77952482
Nah, I think the Homestuck version sounds better too.
>>77952482
>>77952586
baka at this shit taste desu senpaitachi
>>77952482
>>77952586
>>77953130
Undertale's version is more cleanly produced and the descending riff is better melodically, but Homestuck's version has the awesome guitar solos, so it's a fair balance.
>>77952482
>tfw all the people who like megalovania in undertale all secretly like homestuck music and don't realize it
>>77953869
You mean Earthbound.
Also apparently according to statistics, jade is the most fapped-to homestuck character.
>>77929009
I liked it. It was during the good times when Hussie had his freedom from tumblr.
>>77953958
Probably cause she hits the most fetishes out of any character
>>77943465
Tavros a shit though
He gets exactly what he deserves\
>>77945271
I wish it would as well, though not be overt about it
>>77949484
Bitch it took me a weekend
>>77950324
What?
Link
>>77952482
Undertale's sounds less noisy but I like Homestuck's better
>>77953958
>jade consumes a star
>>77954111
>Probably cause she hits the most fetishes out of any character
Jade vore when?
>>77954629
Jade's had that shit for a while.
does anyone have that one garfield youtube poop radiation made and delisted
i miss it
No but now I am curious.
>>77953958
I want to know how the figured that out.It's true in my case.
>>77948814
Really, he should've at least waited until after finishing the comic to do this shit.
Now we gotta wait till like the year 3000 before he even starts up on it again.
Man, Hussie really fucked this all up. He had such a good thing going, he had SO MUCH momentum and most of it's been lost. Homestuck is gonna end up like HxH where people lose interest because of lack of updates.
>>77929009
To answer the original question: pretty dang good all-around. The 'final boss' went on WAY too frigging long, but otherwise, a perfectly good example of how to make a more outside-the-box webcomic.
>>77955762
Basically favorited homestuck porn pics on popular sites vs characters in them, Jade tops the list by far
>>77953869
A lot of Homestuck music is AMAZING! People who say they don't like it but love Undertale's are the ultimate in hipsters.
But I also haven't met any, so I think you might be just making stuff up to complain about here.
>>77956213
Go to /v/ at any time
>>77931890
I imagine it was just Hussie telling them to get lost after it was done rather than them quitting halfway through
>>77934851
Hussie is Trump confirmed
LET'S MAKE HOMESTUCK GREAT AGAIN
>>77935080
No, it was him
Specifically, it was a program that helped identify cancer cells, if I remember right
>>77949542
The best was Whistles.
>>77956861
Will ghost Karkat win the Meeahbowl?
>>77958184
No, he got eaten by Vriska
>>77956470
No, it's his dad.
They share the same name, down to the initial for the middle name being F.
>>77949382
Thank you for reminding me of that magical thing. I needed a good laugh.
bullshit aside, I am still kind of wondering why AH hasn't gone the patreon route with a small side venture. It literally doesn't matter what. People can call him a hack with all their might while he cries his way back to the bank.
I don't think the issue is about money so much as time, come to really think about it.
>>77959971
you haven't read homestuck in years, stop pretending to add insight to anything
Catching up would take time I'd rather be spending elsewhere, is that a crime? Maybe.
Anyways, insight or no, I know good business opportunity when I see it. I'm just curious to explore the concept with you anons.
>>77960052
right now you're spending time checking threads about a webcomic you don't read
You should see the chatrooms and other BBS' I am on, like wow, what a waste of time!
The comic itself is interesting, but the way its fandom changed internet culture and the way its changed itself over the years is way more fascinating. I also get instant gratification by convincing myself that you're more important than the comic itself, so yay.
Fuck the fandom. I fell in love with the comic, not some teenagers wearing gray paint.
You guys are cool though.
"Fuck the fandom ... You guys are cool though."
Wouldn't you just come to that same conclusion for any group savvy-enough to get in on some new sponsor-oriented thing?
The "us vs. them times" is so easy to manufacture: Patreon managed with any shred of control can be one of those things where the focus would never falter from the good times you're having there and then, not the awkward memories of gray-faced kids.
Ignoring the past in its totality is perfectly fine, in my little opinion, so long as the product is still arriving on time. It doesn't much matter what the product is, either, from what I've gathered.
What fanadventures does /co/ recommend? Besides Prequel of course
>>77960812
What the fuck are you talking
Nevermind, senpai, just keep pumping out this fan art and I'll be happy.
>Problem Sleuth thread.
>Ah good something differe-
>Turns into a Homestuck thread.
WHY EVEN BOTHER?
>>77960888
I had a fan adventure once, though I never finished it. I wonder if I should actually go back and complete it, but it's been years.
>>77953958
Is it any surprise?
>Plucky mary sue le dorky girl
>Potentially delicious brown adorka-girl at that
>Dog girl who can be kekomeme, furry, or just CUTE as you want
>A witch AND nerd, loves silly cartoons and gardening as much as nuclear physics
>Raised by a dog, feral jungle girl taught how to wield a gun and climb ziplines
>Snu snu and riff ruff muscle girl too
>All in one
She has amazing potential.
I’m so excited for Hiveswap.
I’m so excited to meet even more incredibly lovable and unforgettable characters, to explore Alternia first hand, to see what Earth is like from the eyes of a troll, to see what mysteries about the Homestuck universe will be revealed and what new questions will arise, to solve humorously devious puzzles (which if they are anything like the puzzles in Myststuck, they will be so much fun), to delve into another incredible piece of Hussie’s work in the universe I love so much.
I’m so excited for Hiveswap.
>>77960313
You know the weirdest thing about looking back at Homestuck? I know even with all my fondest nostalgia and and memories,I can never read it again or enjoy it the same way I did. Not with the same influence and impact, or appreciate how radical and groundbreaking it was at the time. It's changed the landscape of the web in very influential ways and it's effects are so pronounced, that it's very contours that produced those changes are now unrecognizable. I won't be able to read and appreciate it like I did now because it accomplished everything it set out to and now other artists, like Kaz, Michelle and numerous others have taken, improved and rendered it's influence indivisible to it's own narrative.
It's basically the Seinfeld effect applied to Webcomics. Same with series like HEROS or LOST, when HEROS returned as a reboot it was already dead in the water because what it did for tv had sort of put it television lightyears ahead of itself and it couldn't measure up to what it stared.
>>77961284
Leslie pls
>>77961284
Ok
>>77961284
You stole this from a Tumblr post, you can't fool me.
>>77961171
Jade is a cute.
a CUTE.
I love when artists remember that she has goofy buckteeth.
>>77961147
Do it
>>77961341
My favorite part is how it's about Homestuck, still, and not a greater body of work. Or even just Problem Sleuth. You're not wrong about how transformative HS has been, and that is definitely a double-edged sword, but I think fans will eat up anything else.
Any of his other work could come back and it wouldn't be dead in the water, is all I am getting at, I suppose.
p.s. jade a cutie
>Rose became a DRUBK LEBANON
>Terezi's now a SPID8ERSLUT instead of STICKY CLOUN HOE
Why does Hussie hate seers so badly /hst/? What did they do that was so bad to make him completely want to ruin them?
>>77961626
They foresaw he was going to mess up Homestuck.
All the kids are cute individually, and they're even cuter as a group!
Hilarious
>>77961341
You're really exaggerating here. Outside of the 2 you mentioned, the number of webcomics that use flash animation, gifs and sound can be counted on the tips of one fingers. It is groundbreaking but no one has really reached it's bar, yet alone surpassed it.
>>77961672
Fuck off, childpile. Nobody likes you and nobody ever will.
>>77961672
Their friendships and the trolls antagonisms was originally why I thought I'd enjoy Homestuck, I thought the dynamics and interactions were going to be golden like in Hivebent. But than Murderstuck happened, and must friendships/rivalries after Cascade were pretty dull.
>>77960888
Not a fanadventure anymore, but Kill Six Billion Demons started out as one. It didn't get too far, and only the main character and one side character made it into the webcomic version.
Who was the best character in PS and why was it Ace Dick?
>Ace Dick has lost his imagination bar
>all those truffle shuffles
>that ultimate fusion between the 3 Ace Dicks
>Fiesta Ace Dick not having time for that halloween dress-up and posing because shit just got real again shit
>>77961885
>Ace dick
>Not Pickle Inspector
>Not multiplying yourself until you become every subparticle in the multiverse and transcend material existence
>>77961821
>Add too many characters to keep track of
>murder most of them
>then add even more characters
Why couldn't he have just stuck to the original kids and the trolls?
I figured out once the original Ace Dick is actually Fiesta Ace Dick, since he was the one that woke up in the pentagram room and found out how to make the hot sauce.
>>77960888
a beginners guide to the end of the universe is one
>>77961699
I do
Fiesta Ace Dick was so important to my IRL friend group that, anytime someone got rowdy or feisty about something, we could attach Fiesta to their name to denote concern.
Three dicks in 1 comic seems like too good of a deal to be true, so I am going with Ace Dick; the importance of the other four is palpable but not as touchably-soft.
>>77960888
Kill Six Billion Demons.
>>77960939
Too bad over the summer the fandom harassed her to the point and not enjoying drawing Homestuck anymore. Now she just does it to provide content for her blog, but it's obvious by the quality that she's not as into it as other things.
Hey ain't that a story I keep hearing over and over.
>>77962391
Fans are so entitled now. They think they are entitled to whatever content they deem appropriate and can fling shit to whomever doesn't provide it for them.
It's an interesting landscape, to be sure.
