rune king thor vs. superman prime
discuss
Runeking Thor is like, borderline omnipotent. Even Prime can't top that.
>>77916978
is borderline enough though? i mean prime went toe to toe with Monarch
>>77916967
Thor. Top teir magic beat max physical stats.
>>77916967
I'm going with Prime. The guy punched reality.
Who knows. Prime has none of Superman's weaknesses. He laughs off kryptonite.
Superman's #2 weakness is magic
>>77917350
DC's reality is made pf paper. You drop a pencil wrong it might cause a reboot.
Prime would get wrecked, Rune King Thor is pretty high on the scale of omnipotence. If this were Superman Prime from DC One Million, it'd be a very different story.
>>77917374
Not Prime. The only thing that could work as one are speedsters.
>>77917382
Superman 1 million would honestly get his shit slapped by silver surfer or nova prime or crazy sentry or fuck da world antimatter death blasts for everyone blue marvel.
And they are low end cosmics.
>>77917368
Superman doesn't have a "weakness" to magic though. It just affects him like it does everyone else.
>>77916967
Nah man, instead: Rune King Thor AND Superman Prime vs who? And you have to make it plausibly last for 32 pages.
>>77917417
Dog, I fucking love Surfer and Nova Prime. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
>>77917417
Do you know who is One Million?
>>77917454
Beta Ray Bill and Lobo w/Mask
>>77917454
Batman with prep.
>>77917454
Goku and Vegeta
>>77917525
Change it to Broli and Bills and we have a thread.
>>77917489
/thread
Alright lets setle this
Prime vs Juggernaut from the eightn day
who win?
>>77917473
But why would Bill want to fight them? I haven't been keeping up with Marvel, they haven't turned him into a bad guy have they?
>Lobo w/Mask
Oh god.
>>77917525
>Goku and Vegeta
You. I like you.
>>77917459
Yes, he has bitch tier feats and he'd get his shit slapped by non herald silver surfer, nova prime, everybodies gonna get raped mad blue marvel, and crazy as shit sentry.
The stuff he did in the 1 million line was cute, but let's face it. It's low tier stuff for a low end cosmic.
>>77917585
"Why?" Isnt a factor here.
>>77917489
I read way more DC than Marvel, and the Marvel I do read is mostly street level or Fantastic Four. I'm familiar with Superman Prime but can someone explain Rune King Thor to me?
>>77917602
Or you really don't know who is Superman One Million or you are just playing retard.
>>77917602
This is gold superman were talking here right? Yeah dude you're full of it.
>>77917622
It is. What if one team is not willing to fight back then?
>>77917008
>i mean prime went toe to toe with Monarch
A mighty foe indeed!
>>77917670
we're not writing a story here it's a powerlevel thread you autistic fuck.
Odinforce alone makes this a curb stomp for Thor.
Odin has regularly beaten Thanos around like a red headed stepchild.
>>77917454
Thanos with the infinity gauntlet and Parallax Hal.
>>77917713
what you say? that your momma is a hoe?
>>77917454
Darkseid and Void
>>77917714
>beaten Thanos
You realize Superman Prime is nothing like an enhanced deviant Eternal right?
I'll give it to Thor but the thing about Prime is you can only really wind him, he's never really been proper killed due to semi-meta nature. He knows it's a comic to a degree.
>>77917770
>Darkseid
Nah son
>>77917670
>I want my Lobo comics to have a coherent story with reasonable characters
I don't like you.
Fine. Lobo and BRB swap universes for whatever reason, BRB is being bull headed as fuck about getting back home and is warpathing through the galaxy with Scuttlebutt, Prime tries to stop him. Lobo is just being a dick in general in Marvel universe, eventually winds up on Asgard, pinches Sif's ass, kicks a bunch of god heads in, Thor shows up to stop him and gets some good licks in before Loki gives Lobo the Mask and the fight evens out big time with Lobo mostly fucking around. Something happens and the universes collide and it's a big brawl between all 4 of them before Lobo eventually becomes a big enough threat for the other 3 to put the smack down on him and send him back to DC universe and the whole thing gets resolved with Lobo losing/ditching the Mask.
Really though I don't think a story is necessary. Just make it a "what if" issue.
>>77917454
Giorno Giovanna and Diavolo
>all these delusional people in this thread thinking any marvel hero/god could even touch superman prime
>were talking about the superman that brakes the fourth wall on a regular basis and took on the entire green lantern force, two high level supermen and even basically beat monarch
Marvel drones out in full force today I see.
>>77917875
>faggot entering the thread to be a faggot
>>77917843
>not ungaro and pucci
>>77917454
Othinus and Fiamma of the right.
>>77917901
Real question, are you retarded?
>>77917971
>People having fun
>S-STOP IT!!!
He's right you're a fag
>>77917943
>picking characters that can't defend against punches
I mean, yeah, your choices are OP as hell, but they'd be facing off against two character who can punch at hypersonic speeds.
>>77917875
>>77917666
Silver Surfer has better feats.
Nothing that prime has done equals even a tiny bit of what the silver surfer has done even in his crappy run back in the 90's when he wasn't a herald.
As for fourth wall breaking, she-hulk, deadpool, loki, prodigy, and the living tribunal ALL know they are in a comic book. Means fuck all.
>>77917454
Silver Age Superman.
Oh wait, he'd win on one page.
>>77918034
>Silver Surfer has better feats.
Obvious bate faggot, prime has rarely appeared at all in comics when compared to silver surfer and his feats blow that faggot out of the water.
Not to mention prime has survived multiple universes collapsing while he is in them :^) dont think surfer has done that mate.
>>77918098
>Not to mention prime has survived multiple universes collapsing while he is in them :^) dont think surfer has done that mate.
Didn't he do exactly that before Secret Wars
>>77917843
>>77917943
>>77918028
What would Superman's stand be? Or can he see and fight a stand without having one
>>77918098
Yeah, so has silver surfer.
Seriously, what has prime actually done that is so amazing that it blows non herald silver surfer out of the water.
>>77917233
His, tbqh fa m
Prime is basically just a really strong kryptonian. I'm sure he'd tank some shit teir magics but I wouldn't put him over somebody like Odin.
>>77918174
he was able to go through The Source unscathed.
>>77918028
Won't mean a thing once Bohemian rhapsody starts, hell it would probably be far worse for a character that knows meta stuff. Then things get worse when MIH gets going.
>>77918257
What does that mean?
>>77918214
Actually superman prime is immune or near immune to magic too. Theres a panel with black adam that shows that.
>>77918286
that he's basically god
>>77916967
Prime easily.
He made his fucking base out of the source wall. Matched Monarch. BTFO'd the antimonitor. Made a Black lantern ring work for him and start shooting red.
Immune to fucking reality warping.
All these faggots saying RKT have never read a DC comic in their lives.
>>77918286
It means his entire character is based around the fact that he is literally unbeatable, hes the ultimate mary sue, except he also gets heavily trolled all the time.
>>77918328
Don't forget magic immunity, fourth wall perception and 'threatening of the DC writers'.
>>77918214
>Prime is basically just a really strong kryptonian.
This is Superboy Prime, who has silver age bullshit power levels (beating him took two Supermen + the entire GL corps + flying through a red sun + getting smashed in the face by kryptonite repeatedly), who on top of that absorbed a shit ton of power for some reason due to a Guardian suicide exploding next to him in a failed attempt to kill him.
He was beating Mxyzptlk into a bloody pulp (mixy couldn't do anything against him), and he travelled around the multiverse, destroying several universes by cracking Earth apart with enough force to blow up the whole dimension.
As I recall, Rune King Thor was just a step above Odin, which would put him a bit over Galactus or so.
I'd give it to Superman Prime.
>>77918328
>All these faggots saying RKT have never read a DC comic in their lives.
Hey man, in my defense like I said the thing is Prime's nature inevitably works back around against him. He'll get slapped down by the likes of the Teen Titans or just generally humiliated because at the end of the day he's a meta-backhand from the writers to the fans.
I don't think he can ever lose, but he can't ever really win or that's them admitting defeat.
>>77917770
>Darkseid and Void
Nah Darkseid couldn't pull it off, but how about instead...
>>77917666
>This is gold superman were talking here right?
The other Superman Prime, SB Prime that got hopped up on some kind of energy and decided to search for his perfect world during Countdown.
>>77918442
Superman prime ironically probably wouldnt even be able to scratch superboy prime too.
>>77918427
Yeah, sure. I can see it going down like he defeats RKT and a few other big players and gets taken down by someone much lower because he does something stupid like he usually does.
>>77918473
Yeah, funny that.
>>77918408
how could mixy lose? isn't his power literally "i do what i want"?
>>77918473
Superman Prime from the heart of the sun has a lot more shit going for him than basic Kryptonian shit.
He went beyond the Source Wall and came back with new tricks. Granted, the 5th Dimensional powers he gained from the other Superman's marriage won't help him out in this fight, but he recreated Lois from a strand of DNA. He could probably unravel SB Prime like a knit sweater.
>>77918328
Anyone with the power cosmic can make him his bitch.
His great thing? Will based reality manipulation basically a far weaker popeye the sailor.
Power cosmic?
Doesn't even need will.
Can make themselves as strong invulnerable and tireless as they need be.
Prime would get his shit slapped sideways.
Remeber, DC's Universe and multiverse is canon WEAKER Marvels Universe.
The shit he's done means dick to 99% of the cosmics in marvel.
>>77918534
Superboy prime is immune to reality warping shit, hes basically 10 supermans with zero weaknesses.
The joke is that only the flashes can beat him because their power is the most broken thing ever.
>>77918534
he doesn't lose it, it just doesn't work on prime
>>77918557
And even then it doesn't stick for long, does it?
>>77918556
Cannon weaker? Are you kidding me? Its confirmed by multiple writers that dc is cannon stronger then marvels, this is really weak bait dawg.
>>77918556
a) two thirds of your post sound like it was hastily written by a person who has english as their third language
b)
>Remeber, DC's Universe and multiverse is canon WEAKER Marvels Universe.
Gr8 b8 m8. 1/10 actually got me to reply
>>77918556
>DC's Universe and multiverse is canon WEAKER Marvels Universe
Today on "spot the marvel drone"
>>77918556
cosmics aren't even above the tribunal who got knocked the fuck out by Beyonders. you're so full of shit it hurts.
>>77917454
Galactus kicks the shit out of them.
Franklin Richards too with even less effort.
Convinced by this thread that marvel fags not only dont read dc but also dont even read marvel themselves tbqh
Superman has no limits, therefore he wins.
>>77918408
>who has silver age bullshit power levels
please. that pussy would get BTFO by a real silver age kryptonian.
punches from Superboy and Bart Allen made him bleed for god's sake.
You're overrating him so hard.
>>77918695
Hes really not faggot stop trolling.
Were these Superman Prime stories actually good cause he sounds like mary sue oc bullshit that some faggot on deviantart would come up with.
>>77918473
A shit tier daxamite was able to have an extended fight with Superboy Prime.
Superman Prime would casually end him.
>>77918713
Thats the point you fucking faggot.
>>77918713
>cause he sounds
If you haven't read something it's better not to talk about how it sounds.
Also the "stories" are not just one thing.
>>77918719
SBP was literally toying with Ion empowered Sodam Yat. He swiftly stuffed his shit when he got bored and moved on to the entire GLC and Sinestro Corps and the Anti Monitor and the Guardians and the JL. And he was still clowning around through most of it.
>>77918713
he was a knock on the fanbase by the writers. That was his whole point, to be this mary sue-ish.
>>77918695
He was way stronger when he got out of the speedforce
>Solos the GLC
>immune to magic
>>77918719
> conveniently leaving out the fact the daxamite was hosting Ion
plus the fight would have lasted maybe three or four minutes real time. If that.
>>77918733
>>77918748
>>77918749
None of you answered the question.
>>77918708
>gets scarred by superboy's heat vision
>somehow a threat to someone who's Odin+
>>77918759
he wasn't actually using Ion at all. He was just using his daxamite powers to fistfight Superboy like an idiot.
>>77918761
> being this assblasted
Yes, some of them were decent. His appearance during the Sinestro Corps War was great.
>>77918713
he was a cool character ruined by johns in a shitty event comic where he became a villain.
just like alexander luthor jr.
he's basically a whiny bitch and the only good story he's ever been in was Sinestro Corps War.
>>77918783
Yes, he was. Or he would have got fucked in the ass even faster.
>>77918556
>marveldrones
>>77918788
>assblasted
For asking a question? For anything the three faggots that got all defensive are the assblasted ones.
>people citing magic as RKTs reason for winning
>SBP was immune to magic
>>77918619
>>77918589
Like who? What writers.
Who in the FUCK in DC's universe can actually take on a fully fed Galactus outside of shitty OC characters like Krona who were super powered up for that one fucking event?
I'm dead fucking serious.
DC had to power up shitty characters like the fucking spectre to make an equal to ONE of the living tribunals.
DCs cosmic is bitch tier. And if fucking superboy prime, who has SHIT FEATS, compared to even hearld silver surfer is that powerful then DC would get fucked harder then a blonde dyke in an nfl locker room.
>>77918818
RKT has super magic. SBP was just immune to regular magic. As SBP's defenses scale up, so does RKT's offenses.
>>77918818
Can't he just use Telepathy?
Odin could, and this Thor was better than Odin.
>>77918810
No, you're being the faggot by assuming things about a character you know nothing of.
> cause he sounds like mary sue oc bullshit that some faggot on deviantart would come up with.
That is what is killing /co/.
>>77918826
Lucifer Morningstar bro.
You're mostly right in that Marvel has a higher playing field of top-tier cosmics. But guys like Lucifer can match them.
>>77918834
>Can't he just use Telepathy?
So much as base Superman has shown resistance to psionics.
>>77918839
he isn't wrong.
SBP was a shit character.
>>77918826
you're not even worth the effort.
>>77918850
and he still gets BTFO by telepathy all the damn time.
telepathy much weaker than Odin's btw.
>>77918855
it doesn't matter if he is right, it's the fact he's be a 'book by its cover' faggot
>>77918826
Not even worth it bro, obvious bait.
>>77918657
Same Galactus who was brought begging to his knees by Beta Ray Bill?
>>77918848
Unless he's unraveling entire galaxies he'd be considred a slightly below mid tier cosmic. Maybe mephisto, odin or set tier. No more no less.
And no, odin is not stronger then galactus. That's bullshit.
>>77918839
That was the reason I asked about his stories so I don't write of a character based on nothing but shitty /co/ threads.
Also apparently my assumption was correct since two people responded with "that's the point". Calm down and quit being soassblasted.
>>77917008
Monarch is trash though. Got raped by Superman-Prime and ultimately blew himself into another universe/timeline.
>>77916967
Prime lols then punchs Thor into another reality.
>>77918887
i was assuming fully fed galactus, not the starving one.
>>77918826
>>77918855
Which one though? The reluctant though ultimately sacrificial young hero? The deranged extremist? The meta-mockery shit starter?
Summarizing him based on impressions from a contextless PL thread with no knowledge outside that is just empty commentary. Like a kid talking about weapons based on stats from a video game. SBP isn't that deep, but at the same time, shit, if someone has no idea what they're talking about, well, they have no idea what they're talking about. That's that.
>>77918887
Yeah, the one that has to job to everyone because he's that important.
You supermanfags should know what I'm talking about.
>>77917382
Superman 1 Million honestly never display any of his so called awesome powers.
>>77918897
Lucifer Morningstar tanked the explosion of a multiverse pal.
>>77918885
>>77918860
He ain't really wrong. The toppest teir cosmic guy in DC is Darkseid. And he's basically just Thanos.
>>77918916
Pre-johns he was cool.
Post Johns he is fucking garbage.
>>77917875
>Earth 2 Superman
>high level
>>77918927
>The toppest teir cosmic guy in DC is Darkseid
Darkseidfag pls go
>>77918918
U kidding me? He slowed down the movement of a galaxy with his heat vision. That's a better feat than anything Superboy Prime has.
>>77918826
Any Endless/high angel shitstomps Galactus, no contest
Anyone from Wonderworld
Maggedon
Captain Adam (E4)
>>77918918
...and?
>implying he doesn't have them
>enjoyably reading r/whowouldwin
>>77918927
All of marvels top tier gets jobbed regularly but low level shit tier heros and villans, multiple writers from both camps have also confirmed dc is higher power level. This is well known, cut the bait.
>>77918919
Flash running fast caused the multiverse too reboot.
DC's universal structure is weaker then wet tissue that means fuck all.
>>77918916
>>77918873
But- I was accurate though wasn't I?
>>77918943
>literally the original superman
>anything besides high level
Granted he was pretty much dying from old age desu.
>>77918927
>The toppest teir cosmic guy in DC is Darkseid
found the guy who has never read any DC books beyond the most popular ones before
There are DC characters who can turn him into paste.
>>77918948
>Any Endless
I love them but Nah. They don't have the feats. It's more implied power.
>Anyone from Wonderworld
No.
>Maggedon
>bargain bin Galactus knockoff
kek.
>Captain Adam
nope.
>>77918950
>multiple writers from both camps have also confirmed dc is higher power level
Who? When?
>>77918969
he wasn't very impressive.
fucking post crisis supes could match him.
>>77918977
>They don't have the feats
back to /r/whowouldwin with you. Feats aren't everything, m8
>>77918408
>flying through a red sun
Which ultimately depowered him like it did to the other 2 Supermen.
>getting smashed in the face by kryptonite repeatedly
Those weren't even Earth-Prime Kryptonites. Only reason it didn't bother him to be honest.
>He was beating Mxyzptlk into a bloody pulp
That is a bigger asspull then Spider-man defeating Firelord and you know it.
>>77918948
>Captain Adam
Not a chance.
>>77918952
>flash causing a reboot is because the multiverse is weak
>not because the flash is literally the strongest superhero/power of all time.
Its also cannon confirmed(by both marvel and dc) that marvels multiverse got btfo by fag gentry.
>>77918897
>mfw
Lucifer shaped the omniverse, he has made and destroyed universes with a thought.
Fucking read Lucifer casual
>>77918989
if we're gonna have an autismal powerlevel thread, feats are really the best way to do it man.
>>77918962
m8, it's like hearing the spoilers of a movie where someone dies at the end and assuming they're dead throughout or that their death means all other scenes with them are suddenly swept under the rug.
You're not correct, you're even less accurate, the people who responded to you are doing what's called a generalized response because they can't be bothered to read something for you, explain it to you, summarize it beyond most recent significance and then have an informed opinion at the end for you as well.
>>77918971
Final Crisis Darkseid was 2nd only to Mandrakk. And even then, their contrasting natures meant they could never coexist, so Darkseid was always the #1 evil whenever he was around.
>>77918990
>That is a bigger asspull then Spider-man defeating Firelord and you know it.
> can't find resonable answer
a..assp..pull...y..yeah th..that'll show em
>>77918971
I mean there's the angels and the endless and all that but they mostly stay to themselves. Most of cosmic DC is GL New Gods and the like.
Goddamn it, I want someone to story-time when Superboy prime fought the whole DC universe.
Goddamn it.
>>77919000
the gentry is not the beyonders (that have predated the gentry by decades) you dumb hypercrisisfag
>>77918757
>Solos the GLC
Is that suppose to be impressive? They drop like flies the moment a creditable threat appears.
>>77919017
If Ms Marvel suddenly got in a fistfight with Thanos and won we'd all also call it an asspull.
>>77919013
Well I wasn't asking them to prove me wrong was I? They took that up
upon themselves.
>>77919020
>implying both are not abstract versions of the same thing
You are literally fucking retarded
>>77919018
> but they mostly stay to themselves.
so they don't exist. gotcha.
Epic fucking meems friendo.
>>77919019
how about when he got violated by the teen titans
>>77918950
Name some who aren't on DCs payroll.
I'll wait.
>>77918948
>Any Endless/high angel shitstomps Galactus, no contest
No feats what so ever.
At best they are on the same level of marvels death, master order and lord chaos and mistress love and sire hate. Mid tier at best cosmics.
>Anyone from Wonderworld
So Titans with a slight power up? Hot damn.
>Maggedon
Get raped by the Technarchy, the good one not that shit tier garbage from that crap crossover.
>Captain Adam (E4)
Get his shit slapped by herald silver surfer.
Dude, you're not helping yourself.
>>77919046
hypercrisisfags deserve to all be shot.
>>77919020
> he didn't grasp the meaning behind the two threats
man it must suck to not understand anything beyond it's face value and pretty colors.
>>77918998
He literally is a higher dimensional being than Galactus.
But you probably don't even know who I'm talking about
>>77919054
marvels death is better than galactus tier though.
in the trio that makes up death, galactus, and eternity, galactus is the runt.
>>77919054
>At best they are on the same level of marvels death, master order and lord chaos and mistress love and sire hate. Mid tier at best cosmics.
nigga, morpheus recently recreated the multiverse, after he fucked it up
>>77919068
k' buddy
>>77919044
No one has to be asked to "prove" you wrong fampai, you are wrong.
>>77918948
>Any Endless/high angel shitstomps Galactus, no contest
>Anyone from Wonderworld
>Maggedon
>Captain Adam (E4)
Those are all trash. The Endless are just glorified trash. Anti-monitor is the top dog of DC and he is a Galactus at default and maybe an Infinity Gauntlet tier during his peak.
>>77919068
marvel cosmics also work at a higher dimensional level pal.
>deadpool also breaks the 4th wall
captain adam confirmed for stalemated by Wade.
>>77919015
he had the a.l.e. in fc
>>77919080
> I have nothing to counter with, so I'm just gonna shitpost
>>77918950
You mean like how Mr. Mxyz got his power stolen from him by an autist shitface clown?
>>77916978
>>77917233
Superman Prime is basically immune to magic and reality warpers. He even pushed Mxyzptlk's shit with no effort whatsoever, and he is way out of RK Thor's league. Superman Prime takes this easily.
Now, if we only had more feats from Apokolips Superman of the Darkseid War, he would probably be a better match for RK Thor.
>>77919089
you now realize Doctor Doom with the purple man took control of the world more easily than Darkseid with the fucking A.L.E
>>77919068
His...higher level means fuck all.
Fucking Deadpool has better cosmic awareness then him and he's just got low tier omniscence.
Unless that "HIGHER LEVEL" shit can actually be used in a fire fight, he'd get his shit slapped herald silver surfer.
>>77919048
I'm just saying they have really little involvement when shit starts to go down. Galactus or the Celestials or somebody are pretty much always around and theres quite a lot of people up at that level. And if you bring in a bunch of abstracts from Marvel or DC powerlevel starts to mean that even less than it does already.
>>77919017
>being retarded enough to think Superman-Prime can defeat Mr. Mxyz
>>77919095
Tell me what being a "higher dimensional being" means. Gimme some concrete effects
>>77919100
>He even pushed Mxyzptlk's shit with no effort whatsoever
If Mxyrssgsomethingincomprehensible wasnt screwing around then that means that Prime is ludicrously powerful as freaking whats his name can destroy the entire DC multiverse without even trying then recreate it.
>>77919100
>>77919113
Lmao dawg go to bed.
>>77919054
>Lucifer
>no feats
>>77919101
yeah, cause DC has stronger people and heroes.
>>77919072
No, not at all.
Deaths true power doesn't come into play in a direct confrontation. Although she is mighty as fuck.
And there is no universal trinity like that.
They all fuck around the universe doing their own thing. Fucks sake, that's like..the second Eternity.
And that's not even mentioning the first to be born and the first to die in the universe the infinit one herself.
I reiterate. In terms of actual power, she's a midtier cosmic.
>>77919145
nope.
>>77919113
..but he did. It literally happened.
>>77919078
Dude, DC's multiverse is fragile as fuck. That's not a big feat.
Superboy prime punched it and Flash ran so hard he broke it.
>>77919122
> he finally understands why Prime > RKT
>>77919138
Just like how the shitty Teen Titans managed to defeat Superboy-Prime along and ultimately forced him into the Source Wall. QUALITY writing right there! Or maybe the retcon where Superboy-Prime became the Time Trapper and developed time powers.
>>77919145
>yeah, cause DC has stronger people and heroes.
>bring stupid enough to believe this
>>77919146
in terms of actual power she fucking killed the cancerverse while Galactus being backed up by Celestials and the Proemial Gods was having a losing fight.
And yeah the
>>77919054
>At best they are on the same level of marvels death,
Whew lawd no, Abstract Death was recently banned from existence by so much as Eternity.
Death of the Endless cannot be stopped. Reasoned with at best.
>>77919145
Only on Earth.
>>77919078
DC multiverse undergoes a death and rebirth like every week. That honestly isn't impressive. It would had happened with or without his involvement.
>>77918826
>Who in the FUCK in DC's universe can actually take on a fully fed Galactus
This motherfucker. At least his COIE version would shit over every single cosmic deity in Marvel, except probably Living Tribunal, Beyonder, Molecule Man and TOAA.
>>77919172
>Abstract Death was recently banned from existence by so much as Eternity.
what?
and that death still has better feats than Endless Death.
>>77919171
Not in the Bendis retcon. They just sealed it now, remember?
>>77919171
> she fucking killed the cancerverse
She just started doing her fucking job. Cancerverse death got offed in the first place.
>>77919196
Marvelfag here. Agreed.
>>77919086
>>77919104
You are too retarded to understand what he's saying....
He's not saying "I'm in a comic" he's saying "I perceive your reality like you perceive a comic" except he can interact with it. Goddamn you are dumb.
>>77918897
Lucifer unravels entire dimensions with his mere presence.
>>77919196
Motherfucker almost lost to that bitch nigga Darkseid.
>>77919203
>She just started doing her fucking job.
because she was finally able to go there. once there she fucked all the entities up.
>>77919211
So?
>>77918826
>Galactus
>is responsible for the deaths of trillions of beings who did nothing wrong
HE SHALL FACE THE VENGEANCE OF THE SPECTRE!
>>77919212
There were extenuating circumstances
>>77919199
>Abstract Death who got her shit slapped by the Beyonder pissing in her punch
Ayyyyyy, we donzo.
>>77919223
If she was so tough she wouldn't have been kicked out in the first place.
>>77919211
he's still just a comic book character pal, he can't actually interact with the real world. its fucking useless.
>>77919231
He is a Sorcerer Supreme Doctor Strange at best. Whoever thought he was a Eternity class being needs to be shot.
>>77919171
You mean the entity who has complete dominion over the concept of death defeated an entity that thrived on wild uncontrolled life and worship?
No shit really?
Look, if it comes to control over her(well this is the second death and it was replaced by a dude..so technically death is a tranny)dominion, death itself then she is the first middle and last word period.
But death is still beholden to the cosmic order of things in the universe and she is mid tier at best.
Death being an all encompassing force of in their universe only shows how comparatively weak the DC universe is.
>>77919255
Ghost Rider did it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx8ob0BAkOs
>>77919240
that was another reality's death. and she got stealth killed by a ritual.
it's interesting that the entities of the cancerverse where too fucking scared of death to enter the universe until she was gone, but didnt give a fuck about galactus.
soon as he showed up he was turned into a train.
>>77919258
>Death being an all encompassing force of in their universe only shows how comparatively weak the DC universe is.
Wait what? I'm not following this leap in logic here.
>>77919211
Unless he's the editor in chief and can rewrite stories in this world, that power is as useless as an old dykes twat.
>>77919104
>Unless that "HIGHER LEVEL" shit can actually be used in a fire fight
you mean like omnipresence and reality warping?
>>77919255
>He is a Sorcerer Supreme Doctor Strange at best.
False, when it comes to delivering punishment on those judged guilty by The Almighty, Spectre's power is effectively limitless.
OP here
where do you start with reading all this material involving Abstract Death, Fed Galacticus, superboy prime, Lucifer, Madegeddon, Wonderworld, ? like issue wise. both for DC and marvel, how do you navigate through each series? chronologically? is there a tree?
>>77919212
So does cytorrak mephisto set vishnu(is he still dead?)and the one that created the cancer verse. What's your point?
>>77919100
If he can stomp mxy's shit what did he need his magic for? Not trying to continue this argument I just having read that comic.
>>77917436
In Infinite Crisis, he laughed off a punch from Black Adam, and specifically mentioned that the punch was magic.
He then revealed that he wasn't hurt in the least.
>>77919284
It's a nonargument, he's ran out of anything to say and was working off half a brain of information to begin with.
First it's I haven't read DC, but I'm sure there are no powerful characters.
As soon as ones are brought up suddenly it's a claim that they should have destroyed the DC universe already, a universe said anon knows nothing about but is certain of multiple things, up until he suddenly isn't and it's back to more bullshitting.
>>77919286
>>77919244
>moving the goalpoasts this far
you have to be a writer to beat Galactus now?
>>77919306
Lucifer - read his selftitled vertigo series.
Marvel Cosmics - Annihilation, Thanos Imperative, Infinity Gauntlet, Secret Wars, im sure someone has a chart for marvel cosmic.
Magedon and Wonderworld are from Morrison's JLA.
>>77919218
If I remember correctly, it was after fighting a magic enhanced Spectre, then getting weakened by the magic of the most powerful magicians from the multiverse. Then he received the OE from a pre-crisis Darkseid, not the shitty OE that everybody and their moms can withstand nowadays,
>>77919255
They litterally had NO ONE ELSE that could be eternity or beyond tier in the DC universe. They litterally had to power him up so that they could make a crappy story make sense.
Most writers ALWAYS have to power up DC's cosmic half so that they aren't so quickly curbstomped by marvels stuff.
>>77919299
>Spectre's power is effectively limitless.
>can't kill any named villains
He is shit just like Ghost Rider. At least Punisher have the excuse of being a non-powered human.
>>77919310
mephisto can't do that.
in his own dimension Thor fucks him up.
>>77919255
>forced universes apart
Fuck off
>>77919311
Mxy isnt magic hes literally superscience or science that operates in five spatial dimensions.
>>77919328
if the power cant even be used for anything galactus tier then how the fuck can he beat galactus?
>>77919318
Black Adam and Captain Marvel are weaker than your average post-Crisis Kryptonian though. Magic honestly had nothing to do with it. Black Adam and Captain Marvel were just weak.
>>77919306
>Abstract Death
marvels death has no one thing to read. DC's read the sandman, and the Death spinoffs.
> Fed Galacticus
Annihilation, I guess.
> superboy prime
Sinestro corps war, COIE, infinite crisis, blackest night
> Lucifer
Lucifer series
> Madegeddon
JLA 12, 15, 17, 24, 34, 36 - 41
> Wonderworld
same as above
> how do you navigate through each series
Read the issues leading up to and a few after. Wiki the event/character really helps too.
>>77919358
>science that operates in five spatial dimensions.
Can you imagine how many steps there are in that method
Protip:you literally can't
>>77919376
are they really weaker than superboy and krypto?
those guys drew blood.
>>77919318
>magic punch
That's weak shit.
>>77919306
Don't use the wikis as a source (since most of the information is either summarized, absent or flat out wrong) but use them to find sources since most have the issues referenced where the events described occurred.
>>77919355
Even Hyperion the Superman clone did that.
>>77919311
If I remember correctly, he needed Mxyz's power to find his Earth faster. You know how desperate he is, and he'd already been and destroyed some universes.
It doesn´t negate the fact that he enslaved Mxyz like he was a defenseless baby, and we know he is not. He destroys the Multiverse and rebuilds it very often.
>>77919325
1.First of all stupid. Death isn't the end all be all in Marvel. Merely another cog in the machine. Meaning that the concept of death, while important, is not that powerful and is easily over taken.
MEANING that Death isn't as powerful in the Marvel universe as it is in DC. Death of the endless would be as powerful as the power of Death's dominion allows her to be in Marvel.
Secondly, she has no fucking feats.
2.Bringing up characters with no or shit feats does not mean that the character you are defending is stronger by default.
>>77919376
Its confirmed by multiple writers that captain marvel is cannon stronger then superman, this is actually real too look it up.
>>77919402
Stop spelling 'canon' that way. Fuck you!
>>77919398
>Death of the endless would be as powerful as the power of Death's dominion allows her to be in Marvel.
Nope
>>77919354
Yes he can, but the rest of the cosmics will come down on him and the other dimensional gods like the fist of an angry god if he tries to annex their dimension.
Secondly, I do not believe thor beat mephisto in his dimension. The story you have better be GODDAMNED good before I believe it or count it as canon.
>>77919377
>Annihilation, I guess.
That was a severely malnourished, starving and weakened Galactus. Was still capable of destroying several galaxies in a fit of rage.
>>77919365
>solo'd an army that destroyed multiple universes
>not a better feat than Gally has ever had
>>77919428
Mephisto got ousted by Strong Guy. Mehpisto is a little bitch.
>>77919402
>multiple writers
>>77919396
Except he failed ?
>>77919424
Yes stupid.
Bitch is a metaphorical concept given legs.
She gets her power from the concept itself.
In marvel her power would only be midtier at best.
Read motherfucking sandman, the death miniseries, her apperances, any of the endlesses apperances. Fucks sake read the death of sandman.
They are powerful in their own right, but only because of their control over their particular dominion. Without that their easy as fuck prey. And in Marvel, DC's Death would be considered a low tier cosmic.
>>77919336
do i start with Battleworld?
>>77919402
>ctrl+f
You've said "cannon" 3 times and "confirmed by multiple writers" 3 times. 3 times not knowing that "cannon" is spelled "canon" and 3 times not giving out any names or sources of these "multiple writers"
>>77919428
Mephisto isn't even that powerful in his own dimension. At best he is slightly more powerful than Loki in it but severely weaker than Loki outside it. When Thor entered Mephisto's realm, Mephisto allowed Thor free passage and allowed him the freedom to do whatever because that is just how much of little bitch Mephisto is. He even fled with his tail between his legs when some shitty New Mutants told him to gtfo.
>>77919462
Kind of difficult to succeed when you didn't know that there was a self-destruct timer on those universes that you are attempting to hold apart.
RKT's power is magic. SPB is immune to magic.
Checkmate Atheists.
>>77918136
There's actually a comic from Golden-age Supes ( i think?) where he projects a mini-version of himself from his hands, so basically the guy already has one.
>>77919502
Mephisto is god and ruler of his own dimension. Just like all other beings who rule their own pocket dimensions.
Unless their a half insane entity that went mad and only exists as a conept and force of existence given form like the darkforce dimension.
>>77919441
We've already established that DC's universe is weaker then fuck.
>>77919377
was secret wars the one where cyclops tries to use phoenix but manifold takes his thunder? what's the one where fantastic man loses his waifu?
>>77919550
>We've already established that DC's universe is weaker then fuck.
No. We haven't. All we've established is that you keep spouting that shit again and again, it's not gonna make it true. If anything, the opposite is true.
marveldrones are out in force today. The BvS trailer get you all buttmad?
>>77919550
We've established that your headcanon is retarded.
Marvel just had an equally retarded multiverse collapse to Flashpoint
>>77919486
The blog is not the actual source but the guy who runs it has had multiple conversations with writers for both heros before that have confirmed it. Its like an industry joke/secret.
lookup hero-envy blogspot superman-vs-captain-marvel because fucking 4chan wont let me link it cause it says its fucking spam
>>77919550
Doesn't meant shit. Odin is the ruler of his own dimension and has lost in it before. Cyttorak is the ruler of his own dimension and was killed in it. Dormammu is the ruler of his own dimension and lost to Doctor Strange in it on multiple occassions due to "tricks and deception" from Doctor Strange.
Mephisto got his shit kicked by Thor when he attempted to confront him in Mephisto's realm. Mephisto became a submissive little bitch when Galactus to consume Mephisto and his entire realm. Mephisto lost his realm to some shitty mutant that is weaker than the Thing. Even got tricked by Red Leader and almost lost his realm to him.
>>77919582
>>77919583
DCS FUCKING MULTIVERSE FUCKING CRASHES EVERY OTHER SUNDAY
IT CAN BE SOMEONE PUNCHING IT OR IT CAN BE SOMEONE RUNNING TO FAST OR IT CAN BE SOMEONE BURNING THE MOTHERFUCKING TOAST
DCS UNIVERSAL STRUCTURE AND COSMICS ARE WEAK AS FUCK
