>"GRENADE!"
>Rogers jumps on grenade
>it was an actual grenade
>explodes
>Rogers dies in training, is forgotten, and Chad becomes Captain America
What was he thinking? I mean, everyone had left already, I'm sure nobody would have died had it been a real grenade. He almost just died for no reason and probably would have left a few keks in his legacy.
Is /co/ really this retarded?
>>77776402
>"I-if I sacrifice myself, then maybe someone will love me after my death..."
>>77776402
>I'm sure nobody would have died had it been a real grenade.
Because you don't know how grenades work? Not saying he would have stopped any of the metal shrapnel, but it was a split second decision based off secondhand knowledge of how grenades actually kill people.
Also, he jumped over it before anybody ran away, that was the whole point.
>>77776422
Do you really need to ask this?
>>77776441
>throw magic gunpowder egg
>it goes boom boom
>shell fly
>only so far
checkmate.
>>77776422
Specifically, the OP is really that retarded.
>>77776402
thats why you'll never be a superhero, anon.
>>77776402
>He almost just died for no reason and probably would have left a few keks in his legacy.
He would have been honored for his sacrifice, even if it was ultimately useless. There was a British soldier who accidentally dropped his grenade trying to flank an enemy position and blew himself up, but he still got posthumous awards for his bravery.
Also, it was a split-second decision.
>>77776402
>and Chad
Nope
Pay attention. Doc wasn't going to let anyone he didn't trust have the real deal experiment, and a bunch of people who tried the backdoor special died anyway so no one would become Cap.
Also no sane organization throws live explosives out in the open when they need as many recruits as possible to survive the army of heavily equipped super nazis they have to fight.
>>77776510
Chad was the only real brave one desu
>>77776526
>"you're a part of a super secret military branch"
>"thank"
>arrives
>the generals spend their time throwing live grenades at their soldiers
>literally only a few make it out alive
Find a flaw.
>>77776529
How?
>>77776461
What did he mean by this?
>>77776556
>Welcome to our special squad recruit, in the meantime we'll be tghrowing grenades, LIVE grenades at you indefinitely throughout your stay here. If you're survive you'll be one of our elites, our front of the line meat shields so our more important politicians can get away.
>>77776461
What did he mean by this?
>>77776753
Pretty much literally how Ares does it.
>>77777030
>Ah, Ares! You fought with us in Great Patriotic War against Germans?
>No. I was on the other side.
>>77776753
Recruits for the Italian arditi, elite mountain troops, had to train with live grenades and not flinch from shrapnel.
>>77776402
>Chad becomes Captain America.
>>77776402
Bucky would have received the formula. Period.
>>77776612
He's fucking with you. Ignore him.
>>77778781
he wasn't even in the program.
>>77776402
>>77776430
>>77776461
>>77776441
Grenade explosions really aren't that large. If everyone got enough distance and hit the dirt there would likely be little to no injuries.
>>77779960
>what is shrapnel
>>77776402
>>it was an actual grenade
No it wasn't.
Why are we even having this thread?
>>77779979
That's what I'm saying, even the shrapnel isn't going to do a whole lot of damage with proper standoff distance. It can only cause injury at 50 feet or so and has a fatality range of 5 feet.
>>77776402
That scene is just like that other one in Batman Forever where Two Face holds the circus hostage and asks for Batman to reveal his identity and without trying to stop him, Bruce Wayne just stands up and yells HARVEY, I AM BATMAN!
>>77776402
>>77776430>tfw I know that feel
Pre-serum Cap was extremely selfless and mildly suicidal. Dying trying protect others, no matter how ultimately pointless it would be, appealed to him because no one else's life could've been more pointless than his own.
>>77783727
Steve Rodgers transcended the planes of Beta. He was so beta he became alpha
>>77783768
He still kinda is, it's just now when he's struggling to find a point in continued living he can punch bad guys in the face until he forgets he has no friends
>>77776422
You really have to ask?
>>77776402
Really depends on the pineapple. Some affect only a short area and some are wide enough that when they tell you to hit the ground its so that its just easier to bury the body.
Chad was totally a major force.
>>77780802
It has fatalities at 20 feet. A person jumping on it reduces it to 5 feet.
>>77776402
>Chad becomes Captain America
>>>/r9k/
Is anybody going to point out the fact that he's in the exact wrong position to absorb the blast and shrapnel?
>>77777406
The ones beaten by Basic soldiers of the British and Americans?
>>77784065
>has no friends
>bros it up with the strike team
>has Nat as his matchmaker
>convinces a guy he met three days ago to take on a corrupt super spy agency to save America
Cap's aloof, which in no way precludes him from being alpha.
>>77784999
The strike team tried to murder him.
>>77784821
He was just trying to hold out until Howard could save him.
>>77779960
>>77780802
The mk2 commonly in use at that timeno seriously I don't really care if it was a mk2 or something OSS cooked up, they're roughly comparablehad a burst radius of 10 metres. That's slightly less powerful than the modern equivalent, but it's still likely to cause casualties of significance inside that zone.
Since Rogers knew his entire squad and several officers were within the zone, he also knew that using his body to dampen the initial blast would reduce, but not entirely preclude, the casualties.
For reference, once the pin is pulled the Mk2 has a 5-second fuse. Once you've actually seen it, it has a less than 5-second fuse. Assuming average reaction and audible warning times take at least one second to complete, that leaves *maybe* 3 seconds to cover a 10-metre distance in any direction away from the centre of the blast - being more than 10 metres away doesn't guarantee safety, either (dependant on where the grenade fell - if it fell in dirt or even better sand, it would be far less dangerous, but conversely it would be more dangerous if it were in the air (say if some idiot tried to throw it away) when it went off. The real danger from a grenade on the ground is that you have to get away from it in a short time without looking at where it is; difficult when you're potentially dealing with other bodies with slower reaction times or who maybe haven't heard the warning.
For an unarmoured body, even a single piece of shrapnel from a mk2 (which was cast-iron with an explosive core) could easily be lethal. Slowing that shrapnel at source by any means would do a great deal to reduce injuries to bystanders.
>>77784503
Sounds about right.
>>77776422
The /tv/ posters are.
>>77783288
Love yourself now and find peace in absurdity.
>>77785142
Yeah, and they felt bad about it while trying since he was such a bro.
>>77784999
Serum gives you peak human charisma as well
>>77785194
Subtle, but I like it
>>77785661
You would be surprised by the retardation of the comic posters. Visit a comic X-Men or Guardians of the Galaxy thread once and you will see.
>>77776753
Read it entirely in his voice
OP, youre retarded but I laughed.
>>77776422
Is the board blue?
>>77786259
They were faking it. They weren't good people
>>77776430
go to bedKaneki Ken.
>>77785420
Thank you, professor.
>>77787500
>Visit a comic X-Men or Guardians of the Galaxy thread
>two franchises made popular by tv and movies
Yeah, I'm sure all those guys read the comics and not just watch the movies.
>>77785420
then there's doctor grenade over here
>They flat out say it was a dummy grenade in the scene
/co/ you're so damn stupid its unbelievable
>>77776402
It was just a stupid cheesy scene made to impress the children.
>>77776402
It struck me as really silly that this happened during training.
Do they actually throw real grenades at troops during fucking training?
>>77794466
It was a dummy grande your fucking piece of meat.
How /co/ can be so stupid? They said it!
>>77776441
>>77779960
>>77779979
Having seen quite a few grenades detonate, and almost having cooked one on myself during basic, yeah the explosion isn't very large and the shrapnel most likely would have been contained by his body...unless his body joined said shrapnel. :D
>>77794568
I know that you retarded faggot. I'm questioning why Steve would even think it would be real in the first place. I mean, would the guys in charge actually try to kill their own people?
>>77794628
Spy exists, they ar on the middle of a War.
>>77794628
>>77794643
This.
Also, accidents happen and you don't let your guard down around explosives.
>>77776402
There were no FPS back then, and movies about war only showed heroic deeds to inspire you to donate your money to the army, the average person had no idea what actual power of a grenade was.
>>77794329
the most retarded opinions come from guys obsessed with the comics.
>>77776402
>Chad.
Heeeeyyy, /r9k/. How's it going?
>>77794373
>Doctor Grenade
can we make this a thing please
he was bitten by a radioactive grenade or fell into a vat of grenades and got grenade powers or something
>>77794628
if you see a grenade, and someone is yelling "GRENADE!!" you don't have time to create an informed hypothesis on whether or not the grenade is live.
>>77776402
Booted out of basic training for suicidal tendencies.
>>77797802
>grenade powers
reminds me of this tabletop character I made once
Skinny Captain America jumping on the grenade was the only moment in all the Marvel capeshit movies that made me feel anything, even if it was only for a second.
>>77797802
>>77797928
One Piece already did it.
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Mr._5
>>77797876
You have never spoken to anyone who's ever served in the military, have you? Get the fuck out of your mothers basement.
Seriously you are one stupid, ignorant motherfucker: the military ENCOURAGES this sort of suicidal tentancy. Its a fucking game in basic/boot where the Sargent throws in socks and soda cans in the barracks, while screaming "GRENADE" and someone HAS to fucking leap on it before the Sarge says Boom. If they don't make it in time, the whole platoon is "dead" and gets chewed the fuck out.
>>77776402
I didn't like this part because I loved getting Germans to jump on my grenades in Medal of Honor.
>>77799693
Why can't they kick the grenade back?
>>77799740
>kick grenade
>sergeant says boom while grenade is in the air because the fuse length is whatever he chooses it to be
>deader platoon
>get chewed out even harder
>>77799740
Because grenades aren't round balls that will go where you want them to they're shaped like ovals and if they're German they have weird handles. You're just as likely to kick it at your guys as you are at an empty space.
Jumping on the grenade more or less ensures that only one person will die.
>>77799693
Never served in THOSE branches, no. The Air Force kinda likes you to stay alive, especially when everyone has a chance to get clear of the danger (which I THINK they did in tat scene...but the first modern Cap movie was boring as shit, so I had trouble keeping interest up).
>>77785420
Welp thread done, see you all next time.
>>77799854
>Chair Force
>>77799854
>Chair Force
>>77794584
>in death, Bucky America kills more people than in all of ww2.
>>77794568
>That Daddy Long Legs
muh dik
>>77794653
>>77794643
>>77794628
>>77799693
>>77799740
And training is training. I have three uncles, all of whom are warrant officers. Their drills run this kind of situation CONSTANTLY. The most accurate part of the movie is when Steve jumps on the dummy grenade to stop it from hurting anyone else. That is what you re trained to do, if you haven't already dropped to the ground.
>>77800212
Sorry, ran, they're not privates anymore.
>>77779960
>>77794584
>>77794628
>>77776402
Mythbusters did a test on this and confirmed that falling on a grenade *can* dave the lives of others nearby.
http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/mythbusters/videos/grenades-and-guts/
>>77799854
>Air Force
Oof da, no wonder. You guys just don't train like the other branches. It's a principle of command structure. You don't train for boot work because that ain't your job.
>>77800257
*save not dave
>>77777522
>Ah go bah many diffren names. Cap, da First Avengah, da Sentinel a' Libatee, the Star-Spangled Man widda Plan... Big Papi
